Tesla UA-camrs, a larger size magnet usually means the speaker is less efficient and requires more power. The small magnets on the stock speakers were intentional with the speakers being ultra efficient and requiring less power. While the aftermarket two-way mids/highs will improve those frequencies and clarity, you are also most likely losing mid bass in the doors with the aftermarket. What are the wattage requirements of the aftermarket speakers? Maybe I'm wrong and the aftermarket speakers are also ultra efficient. Other than that well done video.
Thanks for the video. It is well done and very informative. I just purchased a Model 3 and have been watching videos to get ideas before I tackle this myself. I also happen to be a veteran loudspeaker engineer and just want to point out that you made too much of magnet size and weight when describing the original speakers. The Tesla speakers use Neodymium (NeFeB)magnets to save weight. Weight is the enemy of vehicle performance and range. The aftermarket speakers use Strontium Ferrite. The NeFeB material is capable of roughly 5-10X the strength of the Ferrite magnets, depending on the specific material grades used. It is entirely conceivable that the stock speakers may actually have stronger magnets than the heavy aftermarket ones. The NeFeB material is also considerably more expensive. It is used to save weight without compromising performance, so they should not be knocked for having "small" magnets. This is not to say that the aftermarket speakers aren't better, but if they are it's for reasons that are not due to magnet weight. Perhaps cone material, suspension linearity and other things are improved, but the magnets size most likely isn't an advantage.
Always that one guy out there rather than adding value is taking the opportunity to criticizes… 🤡 lame. Iv learned more from this video than any other fir Tesla’s
9:34 Just needs Dynamat, (on the outer and inner door skins metal and the inner door panel). Stinger Roadkill foam Fast Rings (for behind driver baskets,) and Hushmat Wave Breaker Kit (to break up waves behind the driver). 🔊 🤝
I agree. Still lots I can do. I did some sound deadening in the back when I installed the subwoofer. Doors are so much more work to do. Thanks for watching
Hi! Thanks a lot for this good video. A quick question: there is a third tweeter for center speaker. Why don’t you replace it? Why is it not included in any upgrade package? Obviously you can’t answer this last question, but I’m asking myself.
Question : How good is the sound upgrade without the Sub and tweeters? I have the RWD model 3 so theres no sub and associated wiring and also the door tweeters are not activated. I would be interested in replacing the 8 inch door speakers and the 3 dash speakers? Thanks for an outstanding video by the way!
I noticed a difference but I do have added power and can control the frequencies via 2 DSP/AMP. You may noticed it being clearer. The sub really makes a difference. You can add an aftermarket subwoofer from NVX.
Hey Dave I liked your video. My question for you is I have just the basic 2023 Model 3. I found out after taking delivery that Tesla had a premium package. So I also found out that there are speakers installed that are not enabled. That’s why so many are installing these aftermarket wiring harness’s to activate those already installed speakers. I guess Tesla cut costs so they didn’t hook them up. My question to you is will these Alpine upgrade speakers work on my basic system? I’m thinking that I don’t have a subwoofer anyway so I would just be interested in the door speakers and the 3 dash speakers.
@@BCTeslaGuy Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I guess I will just have to live with what I have. I even tried to get an appointment with the Tesla service department and they said that they couldn't help me out and that I should have ordered it before they put the car together. It's really frustrating that they don't have someone in their service department that handles audio systems.
Encore une vidéo sur le démontage de HP sur tesla !! L essentiel manque dans cette vidéo … le test musical aurait été apprécié pour comparé la différence , personnellement je pense que les anciens HP (d’origine ) était bien mieux pour les voix !!! Je vous conseils d ‘ acheter comme moi des Focal Utopia si vous aimez le bon son high end !!!!
The stock sound is already impressive compared to previous cars I’ve owned. But curious how much better the upgrade are. Install seems fairly doable for a noob like me. So the stock amp doesn’t need to be changed? Any footage on how to remove the box that holds the sub?
I noticed a huge difference in sound but that's a personal thing. Sorry my camera footage for the subwoofer didn't work out. Lots of other videos on the swap on youtube. The question is really, is the cost worth the effort. For me, Yes.
@@antoinec.3185 Are you asking if I've watched youtube, netflix since upgrading? If so, yes it sounds much better. I don't have any precise measurements or meters, it's just my perception. Thanks for watching
if you have a RWD then you don't have a subwoofer. You can add one. NVX has one with an amp and a 10" subwoofer. I have this installed as well. Works great.
@@BCTeslaGuy Hello Thks for reply Do you have the link for this équipement Also I have seen your video about alpine do you think it worth it after adding subwoofer ? If yes then maybe I will buy it Do you have the link also I have seen also the video for the frunk this one I will buy it very soon And your video is very clear (great video ) And yes I have RWD long range 2023 For information I leave in Paris 😉
yes, but you will need to enable all the speakers and if you are looking at the subwoofer addon, you will need to get an enclosure or add the NVX subwoofer kit with amp.
@@BCTeslaGuy any potential problems from this? How do you control the sub from the interface? Is there a toggle that needs to be hidden under the dash or something? I just hate jank and that’s my biggest fear when doing something like this
nvx subwoofer comes with an amp with a dial to adjust the amount of bass. works great. I have one and also added a 12" enclosed ported sub. Love my bass
I keep wondering how much of a difference they actually make. Can the factory amps really push the new speakers as needed? I had seen somewhere that the magnets used on the factory speakers is a different material and therefore the size cannot be compared. Not sure the truth there.
Thanks for the great video Dennis! Which version of the Model 3 do you have? Will the Base RWD version of the Model 3 have the subwoofer too? I'm thinking about buying this. Thanks.
RWD doesn't have a subwoofer and they don't enable all the existing speakers. Hansshow and other vendors offer ways to enable those speakers. You can add a subwoofer to your system. NVX has a subwoofer package that is much better than the stock subwoofer. Check those out. I added one to my Long Range and then upgraded to an enclosed 12" subwoofer using the same amp. Thanks for watching
I actually installed the Hansshow kit with the surround speakers in the back to my 2021 standard range, not knowing your model @timo pre-2020 models already have the backend speakers installed (just not activated), it could be a simple and cheap solution to start with, and later you would upgrade the speakers 🔊 😊
@@BCTeslaGuy not the ohm , I’m asking RMS , like how many watts is the factory amplifier pushing to the subwoofer. A 8” Type S is rated at 300 watts RMS , and I’ve read the model 3/Y’s amplifier only pushes 80 watts RMS to sub , which is highly under powering the subwoofer
From memory the factory woofer is 150rms. The Alpine is rated at 300 minimum, and generally S type and R type are also low in sensitivity. It mat not last to long 😬
I was expecting a sound test at the end. Totally bites. I've seen audio videos from professionals give the stock speakers a good rating. Makes me wonder
Sorry, but I don’t have a good mic and audio equipment for testing. Factory speakers are ok but these ones and any quality upgrade speaker would be better than stock.
Wow, those speakers in the windshield area have a much smaller driver. It looks like a 3-inch vs a 5-inch. Do you know the actual stated size of the drivers? I hope you don't lose too much upper mid-bass with those. Great video, thanks!
The factory are 3.5 and the replacements are 3. The factory front door speakers are 8” and the replacements are 6”. Loosing a lot of cone area in my opinion. Plus the magnet comparison is not valid because Tesla uses neodymium magnets versus iron ferrite so their smaller size packs a much bigger punch than you would think. Orella acoustics takes a much better approach. They replace the front dash speakers with better ones, still the same size as stock. They replace the front center speaker with a coaxial one to get back the tweeter that Tesla deleted for some reason. They also replace the a pillar tweeters and the rear door speakers with coaxial speakers. They also replace the sub with one that has its own 300w amp versus the factory 160w. I just don’t like the approach these guys used here downsizing all the cones.
What about the amplifier? No upgrade there? How can the stock amp that’s meant to drive those flimsy paper speakers power those heavy duty carbon speakers 🔊???? Should’ve sprayed the inside and out of the sun box in a ton of rubberized under coating and put 1.3 lbs of poly fill in the box to make the speaker think it was in a slightly bigger box and making it more dense.
I have other stereo upgrades in my system. I also have 2 DSP's to tailor each channel as well a 12" subwoofer enclosure from Down4Sound running a NVX 500W RMS mono amp. Many more upgrades to be added such as rear speakers and amps to drive the new speakers. thanks for watching
I highly doubt those speakers made a significant difference. The model 3 performance sounds great as it is. The lowever models were just missing a subwoofer.
I seriously doubt you would have paid $1600 for those speakers on your own. The only way I would believe someone is if they didn’t get paid for the product.
They are the same as the front dash speakers. I'm still trying to figure out what speakers I want to install on the rear deck. Looking at putting 6.5" coax speakers. This is not something I have the skill to do myself.
I'll be upgrading when it gets cooler in the fall. The price is right and thank you very much for taking the time to do the video.
In fact, I ordered the speaker system today with your recommendation to get the subwoofer separate. Saved some $$$$$. Thank you very much.
Tesla UA-camrs, a larger size magnet usually means the speaker is less efficient and requires more power. The small magnets on the stock speakers were intentional with the speakers being ultra efficient and requiring less power. While the aftermarket two-way mids/highs will improve those frequencies and clarity, you are also most likely losing mid bass in the doors with the aftermarket. What are the wattage requirements of the aftermarket speakers? Maybe I'm wrong and the aftermarket speakers are also ultra efficient. Other than that well done video.
Beautiful just beautiful
Thank you! 😊
Wheres the subwoofer at? How did you hook it up? I NEED BASS IN MY TESLA!! TELL ME!!
Thanks for the video. It is well done and very informative. I just purchased a Model 3 and have been watching videos to get ideas before I tackle this myself. I also happen to be a veteran loudspeaker engineer and just want to point out that you made too much of magnet size and weight when describing the original speakers. The Tesla speakers use Neodymium (NeFeB)magnets to save weight. Weight is the enemy of vehicle performance and range. The aftermarket speakers use Strontium Ferrite. The NeFeB material is capable of roughly 5-10X the strength of the Ferrite magnets, depending on the specific material grades used. It is entirely conceivable that the stock speakers may actually have stronger magnets than the heavy aftermarket ones. The NeFeB material is also considerably more expensive. It is used to save weight without compromising performance, so they should not be knocked for having "small" magnets. This is not to say that the aftermarket speakers aren't better, but if they are it's for reasons that are not due to magnet weight. Perhaps cone material, suspension linearity and other things are improved, but the magnets size most likely isn't an advantage.
Always that one guy out there rather than adding value is taking the opportunity to criticizes… 🤡 lame. Iv learned more from this video than any other fir Tesla’s
That’s hardcore. I kinda like the system my YM came with. But I wouldn’t mind shaking my windows some more.
I ordered mine this week and cant wait to fit them.
awesome.
@@BCTeslaGuy got my speakers today and it hasn't stoped raining so cant fit them yet, thanks for the video.
I got the speakers sorted, and the door speakers don't sound loud at all they sound sort of muffled.
strange.
Great job Dennis.
Thanks. Are you going to the meet-up at Brentwood mall this Saturday?
@@BCTeslaGuy Not sure yet…
Thanks for doing this video!
Thanks for the video. You should start by mentioning whether or not you paid for the speakers.
13:33 😮 curb rash on corner after laying on concrete.
Insanely cool to see what goes on behind the scenes
Someone else showed in a similar video, that the tweeters only require a 1/4 turn to release. No prying tabs needed.
Nice to know. Thanks
Excellent install video
Glad you liked it!
is this worth doing to my 2021 3 Performance with Premium sound already as standard?
9:34 Just needs Dynamat, (on the outer and inner door skins metal and the inner door panel). Stinger Roadkill foam Fast Rings (for behind driver baskets,) and Hushmat Wave Breaker Kit (to break up waves behind the driver). 🔊 🤝
I agree. Still lots I can do. I did some sound deadening in the back when I installed the subwoofer. Doors are so much more work to do. Thanks for watching
Super nice upgrade to your Tesla 😊
Thanks! 👍
Any issues going in for warranty with these modifications here in Canada?
not yet.
Hi! Thanks a lot for this good video. A quick question: there is a third tweeter for center speaker. Why don’t you replace it? Why is it not included in any upgrade package? Obviously you can’t answer this last question, but I’m asking myself.
I may switch it out later. thanks for watching.
Does this work on a standard range plus? Or is it just for the long range and performance?
everything except the subwoofer as you don't have one. You can add subwoofer like the NVX subwoofer. thanks for watching
Question : How good is the sound upgrade without the Sub and tweeters? I have the RWD model 3 so theres no sub and associated wiring and also the door tweeters are not activated. I would be interested in replacing the 8 inch door speakers and the 3 dash speakers? Thanks for an outstanding video by the way!
I noticed a difference but I do have added power and can control the frequencies via 2 DSP/AMP. You may noticed it being clearer. The sub really makes a difference. You can add an aftermarket subwoofer from NVX.
Then for the reply I’ll have a look at NVX
Good video. I want to know if you have a car in a box in the car in the box on your dash.
Yes I do! Tesla gave me the car when I purchased my m3. thanks for watching
Nice red color
Thank you! Cheers!
Can we upgrade only the subwoofer and see if it makes difference? &1.6k is too much to spend if only bumps 5% performance..
You can most definitely just upgrade the woofer and notice a difference. thanks for watching
Hey Dave I liked your video. My question for you is I have just the basic 2023 Model 3. I found out after taking delivery that Tesla had a premium package. So I also found out that there are speakers installed that are not enabled. That’s why so many are installing these aftermarket wiring harness’s to activate those already installed speakers. I guess Tesla cut costs so they didn’t hook them up. My question to you is will these Alpine upgrade speakers work on my basic system? I’m thinking that I don’t have a subwoofer anyway so I would just be interested in the door speakers and the 3 dash speakers.
this will not help with your car. I understand there are wiring harnesses that enable the speakers. Have no experience with them.
thanks for watching
@@BCTeslaGuy
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I guess I will just have to live with what I have. I even tried to get an appointment with the Tesla service department and they said that they couldn't help me out and that I should have ordered it before they put the car together. It's really frustrating that they don't have someone in their service department that handles audio systems.
Got bored with my model 3 & I think I should start modifying now… 😅
Let the run begin! thanks for watching
Encore une vidéo sur le démontage de HP sur tesla !! L essentiel manque dans cette vidéo … le test musical aurait été apprécié pour comparé la différence , personnellement je pense que les anciens HP (d’origine ) était bien mieux pour les voix !!! Je vous conseils d ‘ acheter comme moi des Focal Utopia si vous aimez le bon son high end !!!!
The stock sound is already impressive compared to previous cars I’ve owned. But curious how much better the upgrade are. Install seems fairly doable for a noob like me. So the stock amp doesn’t need to be changed? Any footage on how to remove the box that holds the sub?
I noticed a huge difference in sound but that's a personal thing. Sorry my camera footage for the subwoofer didn't work out. Lots of other videos on the swap on youtube. The question is really, is the cost worth the effort. For me, Yes.
@@BCTeslaGuy thank you
Where's the subwoofer box located?
Using the factory subwoofer enclosure located behind the right panel in the trunk. Just replaced the speaker.
Very curious to hear the improvement over the OE speakers. We need to set up a date Dennis!
soon. :-)
curious too ! have you compare the old and new system on video ?
@@antoinec.3185 Are you asking if I've watched youtube, netflix since upgrading? If so, yes it sounds much better. I don't have any precise measurements or meters, it's just my perception. Thanks for watching
Hello
I have a model 3 2023
I think I don’t have subwoofer
Where did you get this one ?
if you have a RWD then you don't have a subwoofer. You can add one. NVX has one with an amp and a 10" subwoofer. I have this installed as well. Works great.
@@BCTeslaGuy
Hello Thks for reply
Do you have the link for this équipement
Also I have seen your video about alpine do you think it worth it after adding subwoofer ?
If yes then maybe I will buy it
Do you have the link also
I have seen also the video for the frunk this one I will buy it very soon
And your video is very clear (great video )
And yes I have RWD long range 2023
For information I leave in Paris
😉
Hello Dose the Tesla gives you any system error after installing something this ? Please let me know
not at all. just replacing speakers. thanks for watching
Great Video😀
Thanks 😁
Can I do this same thing to my base RWD?
yes, but you will need to enable all the speakers and if you are looking at the subwoofer addon, you will need to get an enclosure or add the NVX subwoofer kit with amp.
@@BCTeslaGuy any potential problems from this? How do you control the sub from the interface? Is there a toggle that needs to be hidden under the dash or something? I just hate jank and that’s my biggest fear when doing something like this
nvx subwoofer comes with an amp with a dial to adjust the amount of bass. works great. I have one and also added a 12" enclosed ported sub. Love my bass
I keep wondering how much of a difference they actually make. Can the factory amps really push the new speakers as needed? I had seen somewhere that the magnets used on the factory speakers is a different material and therefore the size cannot be compared. Not sure the truth there.
If you're happy with the system, I would not upgrade.
Thanks for the great video Dennis! Which version of the Model 3 do you have? Will the Base RWD version of the Model 3 have the subwoofer too? I'm thinking about buying this. Thanks.
RWD doesn't have a subwoofer and they don't enable all the existing speakers. Hansshow and other vendors offer ways to enable those speakers. You can add a subwoofer to your system. NVX has a subwoofer package that is much better than the stock subwoofer. Check those out. I added one to my Long Range and then upgraded to an enclosed 12" subwoofer using the same amp. Thanks for watching
@@BCTeslaGuy Thanks for the detailed reply!
I actually installed the Hansshow kit with the surround speakers in the back to my 2021 standard range, not knowing your model @timo pre-2020 models already have the backend speakers installed (just not activated), it could be a simple and cheap solution to start with, and later you would upgrade the speakers 🔊 😊
I’m a little shocked since the factory amp is so bad. Usually higher end hungrier speakers won’t sound good.
What’s factory RMS to the subwoofer ? I feel that subwoofer is getting underpowered
dual 4ohm
@@BCTeslaGuy not the ohm , I’m asking RMS , like how many watts is the factory amplifier pushing to the subwoofer. A 8” Type S is rated at 300 watts RMS , and I’ve read the model 3/Y’s amplifier only pushes 80 watts RMS to sub , which is highly under powering the subwoofer
Sorry, I'd have to take the panel off to look. Don't think it's much with such a small magnet of the original subwoofer.
From memory the factory woofer is 150rms. The Alpine is rated at 300 minimum, and generally S type and R type are also low in sensitivity.
It mat not last to long 😬
@@bensimmonds1026 I found out it’s actually 80 RMS , so definitely under powering the sub
Why didn’t u change tweeter on dash?
I’m curious didn’t mean to insult. Are the run of the same channel or are they separate
planning on doing that when I update the rear deck speakers. Hoping to replace them with 6 1/2" speakers.
@@BCTeslaGuy gotcha that sounds insane. It’s a 4 back there correct? Good luck on that.
@@BCTeslaGuy any amplifier upgrades? Dsp?
np. :-)
Is the stock subwoofer a 4 ohm or 2 ohm?
dual 4 ohm
I was expecting a sound test at the end. Totally bites. I've seen audio videos from professionals give the stock speakers a good rating. Makes me wonder
Sorry, but I don’t have a good mic and audio equipment for testing. Factory speakers are ok but these ones and any quality upgrade speaker would be better than stock.
You can't hear the audio difference unless you're there. Watching on UA-cam or streaming will play through YOUR speakers.
Wow, those speakers in the windshield area have a much smaller driver. It looks like a 3-inch vs a 5-inch. Do you know the actual stated size of the drivers? I hope you don't lose too much upper mid-bass with those. Great video, thanks!
These are the speakers. Information direct from Alpine. www.alpine.com.au/shop/speaker-systems/digital-precision-speakers/dp-653/
The factory are 3.5 and the replacements are 3. The factory front door speakers are 8” and the replacements are 6”. Loosing a lot of cone area in my opinion. Plus the magnet comparison is not valid because Tesla uses neodymium magnets versus iron ferrite so their smaller size packs a much bigger punch than you would think. Orella acoustics takes a much better approach. They replace the front dash speakers with better ones, still the same size as stock. They replace the front center speaker with a coaxial one to get back the tweeter that Tesla deleted for some reason. They also replace the a pillar tweeters and the rear door speakers with coaxial speakers. They also replace the sub with one that has its own 300w amp versus the factory 160w. I just don’t like the approach these guys used here downsizing all the cones.
Evry link 4 packages is the same:(
What about the amplifier? No upgrade there? How can the stock amp that’s meant to drive those flimsy paper speakers power those heavy duty carbon speakers 🔊????
Should’ve sprayed the inside and out of the sun box in a ton of rubberized under coating and put 1.3 lbs of poly fill in the box to make the speaker think it was in a slightly bigger box and making it more dense.
I have other stereo upgrades in my system. I also have 2 DSP's to tailor each channel as well a 12" subwoofer enclosure from Down4Sound running a NVX 500W RMS mono amp. Many more upgrades to be added such as rear speakers and amps to drive the new speakers. thanks for watching
I highly doubt those speakers made a significant difference. The model 3 performance sounds great as it is. The lowever models were just missing a subwoofer.
thanks for watching
I agree, be surprised if its makes it 5% better for alot of cash.
Nice how 2 tho 👍
thanks for watching
this makes no sense, you cant just change the spekers with bigger magnet, you have to drive them with more power ! where is the amp upgrad?
3k is fuckin ridiculous no way sorry but the speakers are just fine just added a 700$ sub it will sound incredible
I seriously doubt you would have paid $1600 for those speakers on your own. The only way I would believe someone is if they didn’t get paid for the product.
You should have put or stated at the front of the video that it was sponsored then I would’ve watched the whole video
The Sound is terrible with the Alpine System. its too expenzif. . The original Sound from Tesla is good enough
why no upgrade to the back seat door speakers?
They are the same as the front dash speakers. I'm still trying to figure out what speakers I want to install on the rear deck. Looking at putting 6.5" coax speakers. This is not something I have the skill to do myself.