I still do that not infrequently, so convenient. Also works great if you're cradling with a tip tied to swing away but you're controlling the butt. Lower till it's loaded fully on the tip's anchor. Than simply take the rope off your side of the stem and you have a tag line instantly on the butt!
I just learned this technique. Only we tied a clovehitch above the cut and with the same rope, another clove hitch below. I cut between the 2 knots also with rhe top of the limb supported with a snatch block. It just fell the distance between the 2 knots and hovered there fully supported and upright.untied the lower knot and my buddy on the ground lowered the limb.
2 cloves same rope on the limb to be cut about 1 foot apart.Same rope running through snatch block above on another limb than down to anchor on the ground. When cut through, the limb only falls a few inches and maintains its direction since secured to a snatch above. Untie bottom clove and buddy on the ground slowly lowers limb. Sorry if my explanation isn’t clear for you.
@@dynamite479 I got ya now. Thought u had the block underneath and was wondering why u would put a clove under the cut when it was gonna drop right in to a block anyway. But still, why would u need the clove under the cut? Was the overhead gin to far away and gonna cause a violent swing that u wanted to control?
Exactly, so it doesnt swing out and back towards you. This way it just drops a few inches, no swing. This is great for those large branches that could hurt ya.
That's what I'm talking about...old school. I rig everything like that. And also another way a little different where when it comes over it doesn't bite on the rope.runs a lot better. But good job man. I've never used any new rigging shit. But I want to at some point. I need a few more things in my climbing box. Then I'll check out some rigging rings n slings.
I'm in Southern Oregon, need to take out an Alder near a property line. I also have a lighter-weight horizontal branch extending over the neighbor fence, so I can't afford to damage it. I also can't afford the $800-$1000 to remove the tree. Alder limbs are basically vertical. Any suggestions? I'm not a pro, but intend to stay safe.
Sideloading clips and carabiners isn't a safe practice to get into, especially since you used the verbiage "heavy branches." When rigging down a 500-1000 lb stick I'd never use this. For light loading such as you did I'd go for it, but not with much heavier.
Thanks for the video on a standard natural crotch butt check. Thought I was gonna learn somethin new. Btw u set it up wrong and the ropes gonna chafe the whole way down
No he didn't. Like the methods old practices work great with older style ropes. I'll do what he did all day every day with some true blue or arbor pro. Your critique would have better standing with newer dynamic rigging lines. But what he was using? That's exactly what I and countless others use.
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That was hardly a technique, personally I would never use this amateur looking thing. The way the overlapping knots slid down was not controlling, it was not of consequence today. It wasn't held up in place either...
Thanks for the lesson...short and to the point
Bout to try this technique out!!!!! Thanks for the great tutorial 👍🏼
As long as the rope is rated for the weight it works great, thanks for watching!
I still do that not infrequently, so convenient. Also works great if you're cradling with a tip tied to swing away but you're controlling the butt. Lower till it's loaded fully on the tip's anchor. Than simply take the rope off your side of the stem and you have a tag line instantly on the butt!
Can you add an extra wrap underneath for more weight, control etc?
I haven’t tried that but it sounds l likely, let me know if you get it to work. Please let me know if you do
I just learned this technique. Only we tied a clovehitch above the cut and with the same rope, another clove hitch below. I cut between the 2 knots also with rhe top of the limb supported with a snatch block. It just fell the distance between the 2 knots and hovered there fully supported and upright.untied the lower knot and my buddy on the ground lowered the limb.
Wait? So u had 2 clove's on the same rope and a block underneath then u cut in between the knots?
2 cloves same rope on the limb to be cut about 1 foot apart.Same rope running through snatch block above on another limb than down to anchor on the ground. When cut through, the limb only falls a few inches and maintains its direction since secured to a snatch above. Untie bottom clove and buddy on the ground slowly lowers limb. Sorry if my explanation isn’t clear for you.
@@dynamite479 I got ya now. Thought u had the block underneath and was wondering why u would put a clove under the cut when it was gonna drop right in to a block anyway. But still, why would u need the clove under the cut? Was the overhead gin to far away and gonna cause a violent swing that u wanted to control?
Exactly, so it doesnt swing out and back towards you. This way it just drops a few inches, no swing. This is great for those large branches that could hurt ya.
Would this work with branches that are running horizontally ?
If there is a vertical branch above it, but do not use a stub as it could pop out as the branch drops.
That's what I'm talking about...old school. I rig everything like that. And also another way a little different where when it comes over it doesn't bite on the rope.runs a lot better. But good job man. I've never used any new rigging shit. But I want to at some point. I need a few more things in my climbing box. Then I'll check out some rigging rings n slings.
Perfect, I have to dead oak trees that straddle my house power lines I need to control a few branches as I cut down the tree.
I'm in Southern Oregon, need to take out an Alder near a property line. I also have a lighter-weight horizontal branch extending over the neighbor fence, so I can't afford to damage it. I also can't afford the $800-$1000 to remove the tree. Alder limbs are basically vertical. Any suggestions? I'm not a pro, but intend to stay safe.
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@@ArborNow ....wow, sure is nice of you. May be next week.
No problem, happy to be of help if I can.
Cool brother nice one.
Are you advocating one-hand sawing!?! Oh wait, that's CHAINsaws! My bad! Thank you for sharing this tip/technique. Stay safe!
I only let my ground guys run chainsaws one handed. As a matter of fact they've gotten so good they're now able to use two saws at the same time!
Hi, how many inches is the rope? I use 0,32 for climbing, it works?
That's probably a half inch. I wouldn't use a 11 mm climbing line for this application
Thanks!
Thats called a butt line. The bottom wrap should of been wrapped the reverse way.... think about it.
Sideloading clips and carabiners isn't a safe practice to get into, especially since you used the verbiage "heavy branches." When rigging down a 500-1000 lb stick I'd never use this. For light loading such as you did I'd go for it, but not with much heavier.
That’s called butt hitching, tree guys been using that technique for years and years
Yup, that's why he said it's an old school technique.
Thankyou
Thanks for the video on a standard natural crotch butt check. Thought I was gonna learn somethin new. Btw u set it up wrong and the ropes gonna chafe the whole way down
No he didn't. Like the methods old practices work great with older style ropes. I'll do what he did all day every day with some true blue or arbor pro. Your critique would have better standing with newer dynamic rigging lines. But what he was using? That's exactly what I and countless others use.
Basic fundamental technique. 20 years to learn this? This should be learned in week one of training.
He didn’t say “it took 20 years to learn”. He said it’s one of the simple rope techniques he picked up during the 20 years of Tree work.
its a half hitch bro
half hitch and the overhand knot are my favorites!
@@oneministries4878 ya I seen a bunch of old timers rig with that. But some webbing and a beamer works better
@@fumagoo1986 it sure does!
PS don't use this method on larger limbs it's will deff burn that rope In half.
Definitely, but a double or triple wrap on the trunk can work in a pinch without a pulley, but it is not advised.
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Its a false crotch
That was hardly a technique, personally I would never use this amateur looking thing. The way the overlapping knots slid down was not controlling, it was not of consequence today. It wasn't held up in place either...