Alot of truth to this. But in my case what drives my love is the craftsmanship its stunning it feels so different holding a Hermes bag than it does another brand for me. But not all Hermes bags work for me just like i am realising the constance is not for me ...
The level of transparency around $$$ spent, rate of spend, and boutique politik-ing provided in your video is invaluable. You can only see the true extent of damage done once the shopping fog clears. I wish more Hermes-youtubers were as frank about their purchases as you. Thanks very much for the honesty and vulnerability.
H offered you multiple bags so I’m a little confused over your video a month ago. I agree that it’s good to slow down your spending so that SAs don’t see you as someone who will spend just to get the B or K. If they know you’re desperate, they’ll use your desire to fuel more sales. Slow down. Buy what delights you. There’s no good reason to rush. If you don’t like anything other than the B or K, buy pre loved and send it to a bag spa.
This is the most honest video I think on Hermes in whole, thank you for being so honest! I just love Hermes and I love hearing about others stories with them :)
Thankyou! I pride myself on being a honest person and what encouraged me to film this video is that im tired of the dishonesty of people especially on Instagram when it comes to the reality of scoring the dream Birkin or Kelly bags it's not as easy as some people make it seem unless U go to tourist stores 🧡
The workmanship of Hermes is unparalleled but the business model is ridiculous (from the customer point of view). All these caveats on selling to in store customers, supposedly justified on the basis of 'fairness', and yet the resale market thrives on the fact that their agents are repeatedly buying in store to re-market.for profit. So the Hermes customer 'profiles' are pretty useless if truly geared to identifying and rewarding 'genuine' lover of Hermes. It doesn't sit well with me at all.
Thats true. I know the resale market is usually selling the bags scored in France. I know of a friend who scored 2 bags in a few days in France no spending required. It frustrates me because the stock they release that way in France why cant they just provide more stock to local boutiques and remove all this high profile spending to score a bag? Fair enough spending up to 4-5k in other items between bags as u are generally limited to two bags per year anyway but realistically its more than that, that i have to spend everytime i wish to acquire a dream bag. Its very annoying if they can do otherwise in France but not in other boutiques in Aus, USA etc.
@@Purseonfleek I'm pretty sure it's not just France. I am London based, and whilst we don't have the same appointment based system the Paris stores have to allow 'tourists' to go in and potentially buy with no sales history, I am aware from contacts that Hermes deals with professional buyers here with no particular limitation on number of bags. That's actually how most minor celebs score their bags - they don't buy directly. I can't believe the same doesn't happen in New York and other big cities. The amount of stock re-sellers have to shift suggests they aren't just getting supplies from 'pretend' tourists in three Paris stores!
Wow. This is a powerful video. First of all, I agree with how the Purseforum (and by extension Pursebop) can literally brainwash you into liking Hermes. At one point, I was totally desensitized by their prizes, thinking Louis and Chanel were cheaper. Good thing I slapped my self out of it and, like you, found my real style with Chanel. My main take-away here is if you’re chasing bags from Hermes, go towards the second-hand market. It seems to me that the boutiques will totally only cater to those who have tens of thousands lying around to spend on a teacup or a saddle. Thank you for your honesty!
i love your reply! you are totally right with everything you said and i am glad you were able to take away from this the true facts of "cost" when it really comes to chasing a dream B/k/c but if the person is happy to buy items they like and the dream bag is a bonus thats fine but for me there was that period of time where i was buying things i like but doing it too fast in hope to get a bag and of course it just led to regret and disappointment. however i have definitely learned my lesson and doing alot better now with prioritising my H wishlist but ultimately i would never lie and I am infact chasing a bag; of course xD. I am very glad you have found your style with Chanel there is nothing like knowing what brand really sings to your heart than just buying into a lot of marketing hype and not having anything that really resonates with your style. Glad you enjoyed the video xo
A wealth of information thank you the one variable you didn’t talk about is age because at 61 when I walk into the boutiques it’s like Christmas in June. Everyone is so nice to me and they figure I’ve got oodles and oodles of money to spend and they offer me all kinds of bags and customer service champagne galore they don’t worry about me or send the security guards to stalk me. It’s not fair to you young girls who are so knowledgeable about these bags but on the other hand all the boys love you all the sales associates love me wrinkles and all As a sidenote your information about pre-loved markets is invaluable thank you again
I’m a new subbie !! Chanel makes my heart sing luckily and haven’t had the hermes itch. Thank you for sharing really enjoyed hearing about your journey
I understand the want for exclusive but you have to question..."do i really need to beg a company to take my money". At the end of the day it's always about what's important to you. I respect that you're dedicated to obtaining the things you like/want. I found your video informative. Thanks
It's a very valid point. I think it's because previously with my first offer it was easier and I love their bags so what I spent in store ended up being less than the premium I would have paid in the resale market. But it was so disappointing that after that bag it was soooo hard to get my next bag...
Thanks so much for sharing your story. It’s so sad what Hermès makes people go through.... yet the Kardashian’s have soooo many bags. As much as I want a Kelly, the way the Hermès company makes some people jump through the hoops and others not. I also find selling these super expensive bags scary (to do it myself) in this era of internet scammers. You’re lucky that your husband is supportive of your purchases. ❤️👍
Your concerns are perfectly normal and to be honest i share some of those same concerns and opinions too especially about the needing to jump through hoops where as for some others its effortless/easy to obtain what they most desire from the store. But of course like i say to anyone u must do what you feel comfortable doing and take the time to think whats best for your situation/what you are ok with. I have regrets no doubt like i outlined in my video but i definitely have learned from those so i wont be repeating my mistakes 😂. Also RE: my husband he doesnt like my luxury shopping at all but he trusts that i would never put our family finances at risk and knows i do what i can to earn funds to pay for my luxury purchases which also includes alot of purging luxury items i no longer use or not getting the use out of i cant justify an item sitting there looking pretty which is a big reason why i dont even have a big Hermes collection i have used and resold alot when im not in love with the item anymore 😬
For me i have been turned off by the whole experience lol. My last bag i spent 1.5:1 before an offer because i had 2 SAs leave this time around another SA left so am now on a new one and have spend 0.75:1 so decided to give up unless there is something i absolutely really really must have then i may go to boutique. I love shopping resale because i get to pick what i want and now days the premium isnt as crazy anymore. Far less stress 😌
Thanks for sharing! What I heard from the Hawaii shop was that the sales who reserved the item for you would get the commission so it doesn’t matter who was serving you when you go pick it up. But maybe it works differently in Australia!
Elly Tsai that seems to be the case with most lux shops. I’ve noticed that my SA ‘s name was on my receipts when they were not even working that day. If you let your SA know that you are coming I think they have another SA take care of it then they do the same for them later.
Purseonfleek I understand losing an SA sets you back a bit but you still have the sales history with the store and country. Wouldn’t it be better to build a relationship with the manager? The individual SA would not matter so much. Seems like that works in US.
Thank you so much for your extremely honest and hence, helpful sharing!!!!!! Scored my first birkin with all the tips you offered via IG DM earlier this month, so I love that you offered even more insight in this video! Jotting them down to hopefully get my second bag with the store!!! Can’t wait for your next video!
Would love to know a bit more about Australia resale market. From the little research I've done, it seems the consignment fee is really high in local consignment stores, so I couldn't see myself going that route to sell.
To be honest i dont deal with any consignment stores in Aus because i find the market is high priced due to less B/K/C being available here. I much prefer the Asian consignment stores , Europe or US ones. When i do consign a Hermes bag i prefer Anns Fabulous Finds in the US as they have a lower commission and a big US market of buyers. I will be uploading a new video in a week talking about where I recommend to buy Hermes bags that cater to the average person rather than the super elite/rich
I enjoyed every single minute of your journey of Hermes. One thing I agree with you that you bought bags from outside of retail store by paying the premium . It is true that in order to get a bag, you may need to pay more than premium. I was very lucky got my first Birkin as a wonderful SA. I do want to get Kelly bag but I still afraid to approach to her. Because I am thinking maybe the second Hermes won’t be so easier. Thank You so much for sharing your journey. Love this video ❤️
It really boils down to relationship with the SA and the level of competition you have at the store because when the store manager decides he or she will be reviewing the profile benchmarked against the rest. In my instance i feel its alot to do with SA turn over and stiff competition that meant i had such a long wait between bags and unlucky for me i spent more than i was comfortable between bags too... But your scenario could be totally different to mine and may not be so hard but frankly i cannot deny the resale market from reputable stores is quite enticing since their prices even though with a premium arent so bad in retrospect to an unknown figure u need to spend in store to show loyalty and commitment to score a dream bag too. Alot of complexities and like I said in the video many variables so there is no one size fits all scenario but i wish you the best of luck!
Great video, raw and honest! I recently purchased my first Birkin from a consignment shop. What I wanted, a black 30cm togo silver hardware is highly sort after, and since I don't live near an Hermes store,(no chance to build a relationship with an SA), and I didn't want to go to the mothership in Paris, get denied multiple times by the appointment system, or get an appointment only to be offered a bag that wasn't what I specifically wanted, or to be told no stock. I paid slightly over retail, for my holy grail, but I'm content. I plan to go to Europe next year for a vacation, so I will add an Evelyne to my collection( if available). I will probably get another Birkin at some point, but I will definitely go the re-sale route again. Hopefully the small bag trend tapers off, and I can get another 30cm dark neutral at or under retail. I realize now that even having/building a relationship with a SA doesn't always guarantee that one will get what they want. I think that I'll purchase items that I want in Europe, scarves, etc..but I'll hope the re-sale market as well! thank you for being honest about your journey.
Great choice! That's absolutely right the boutique has lesser odds of offering you exactly what you want and like in my situation my first offer I was offered something great but it wasn't what I exactly what I wanted as I had kept asking for a Kelly even though I took the bag because I loved it, that feeling didn't last because it wasn't working for me nor was it my first choice it was just the boutique experience had me at bliss but that feeling never lasts - but picking exactly what you want by resale definitely gives U better chances of loving the bag forever😁
From all of your story with them I fell like customers are not get treat like a customer. That is too stressful and a lot of work to buy a bag which is just a BAG. The design and the craftsmanship are amazing but it is not definitely enjoying experience to me. To get an offer a bag which you may not 100% love you have to force yourself go the boutique to find something to buy that help you keep relationship with their SA. And spend thousands but may not get an offer.
You are very right. Its a real shame the artisans which i have the most respect for, for making such beautiful works of art are not the ones calling the shots on how bags should be sold. Its a drive from corporate unfortunately in most countries other than Paris FSH that spend = bag score. Its a shame they cant evaluate those who are buying for status(elite/rich) vs buying for appreciation of art and sell to those who are the latter
That's sounds like a very frustrating 'full-time job'. No bag is worth all that money and frustration. It's JUST a bag and Hermes is playing with you! A dream bag? sounds like a nightmare, lol.
What happened to the “Hermès made me cry” video? I was 30 minutes into watching it and it literally disappeared and this video came up. Now I can’t find it anywhere. I’m so upset I didn’t get to finish it. 🥲
I liked listening about your history with Hermès. My question is, how does one afford an offered Birkin or Kelly after spending thousands at the store on shoes, jewelry, etc? Do we save up for the time we get offered?
Definitely have to keep saving on the side for the score. In my case I often saved + purged other luxe bags that weren't making my heart sing anymore. I'm constantly doing Marie Kondo on my luxe goodies 😂
Wow, this was the best overview of the intricate Hermes system! Thanks for sharing all of your amazing insight! I know it was a lot of work but it’s super appreciated.
Love this video and love the detail. Obviously Hermes is driving u crazy and keeping u in this love hate love relationship. Sometimes it has the power and sometimes u have the power lol. Ultimately Hermes is the way to go because they are timeless.
Haha yes it's definitely a love hate relationship 😅😅 . I wish to one day shake the hands of an artisans for Hermes though as I love what they create. No other brand feels the same
ThanIk you for sharing your journey with us. It was so informative and helpful. Your honesty is so refreshing and puts so much into perspective for the H journey. Thank you again. ❤️
Thank you! This was really educational, and to be honest exhausting hearing about the back and forth. You have such stamina and passion, it was enthralling to watch! I now appreciate the effort (and money) it takes to get one of these bags. I'm new to the brand (only a year or so into my H journey). I'm not sure if I'm ready for Birkin and I'm turning 40 next week! So you've had a great start being only 30 years old. I'm currently waiting for my Kelly 28 togo in blue jean at the moment and I am beyond excited. Thank you again xx
Thankyou I am happy to hear this video was very helpful! And welcome to the orange side 😆. Whether you decide to persue in store or resale i wish you the best of luck with your Hermes journey. Kelly 28 is a fabulous bag and bleu jean is great casual colours goes well with Jeans also excuse the pun 😅
Its possible at FSH Paris ! But as far as i know other boutiques require prespending or some in tourist locations require you to spend at least 60% of the cost of the bag on other items(excluding bags) and then u will get an elusive bag on same day. From what i have heard thats Hawaii and korea but it also depends on who the SA is, it may not always work.
Thank you for sharing your experience in acquiring your wish list items from Hermes. I have to say that I could feel your pain especially when you were doing all the maths! My experience so far has been rather different and I am not quite sure myself how it happened. I am a regular shopper (even more dedicated window shopper!) at my local luxury shopping centre which houses a number of luxury brands such as Hermes, Chanel and LV; albeit smaller stores by comparison to the major European cities near me. I have always been a fan of Hermes accessories but back in 2010 I was not at all keen on their B&K. I spent some money on their enamel bangles and shoes simply because I love them. I never asked for any bags until 2014 - I went in to request a Bleu Eletrique B30 for a friend of mine who was dying to get her hands on one. 12 months later the bag came and that was that. A few months after, the assistant manager contacted me to inform that the manager was going to Paris just before the summer break and if I was looking to express interest in any bags. I casually mentioned a red K32 preferably a Rouge Garance; but I was not really expecting it to happen. The following summer, they offered me a K32 in Rouge Casaque which I loved but declined and that was that. I was also then offered a black K32 the following year which I obtained. Anyways, I am now onto my bag no 4 which is a K28 Sellier in Noir PHW which was offered to me in April of this year - again, casually mentioned that I would love a black Kelly coz it’s easy and I reckoned I would carry it everywhere! I have to say that I have not bought anything from Hermes in the last year as I was getting a few stuff from LV so this K28 came as a pleasant surprise and totally unexpected- truth be told I had forgotten that I did mention a black Kelly to them last year! So far I have been offered and/or bought 1 birkin and 3 kellys since 2014. I have also requested and bought bags such as the Lindy and Halzan from my local boutique as well as ordering shoes/sandals. I have also shopped online and did get a couple of bags too. It may be imperative to mention that I am also obsessed with their 90x90 silk scarves and I do have a few of them but I don’t think this has major influence in getting offered the bags as I only started my scarves madness in 2017 (but I’m sure it helps with the subsequent requests/offers)! To be very frank, I don’t have a specific SA that I go to though I am friendly with most of the SA in my local boutique (it being small and all the SAs are very personable) including the assistant manager and the store manager. Whenever I go in (which is often to window shop and admire the craftsmanship, not to buy) I would say hi to all the SA (I do know them by their first names) and introduce myself to the new SA that I haven’t met before. We would chat about the craftsmanship, the quality of the beautiful items I am interested in and the history behind the designs. Our conversation never really leads to me asking for a bag but rather the SA would remind me to tell them if I would have any requests. I do think having a relationship with them is important but it does not have to be based on big purchases. I feel like they appreciate my love for the craftsmanship in their leather goods and silks - and perhaps that’s why they have been very thoughtful in making contact with me before each Paris trip. I do not dress up when I go in - and I am just a girl-next-door who loves bags and shoes. I find that if the SA can relate to you, you may have a better chance at striking up a genuine SA-client relationship but I wouldn’t do this so I would be offered a bag. I have truly enjoyed my experience with Hermes so far and I hope this offers a helpful but different perspective for others who are keen to purchase any of their items.
That is fantastic! I do know pre 2014 it wasnt as hard to get b/k but since you are still getting bags but not spending an arm an a leg it sounds like either A. the store is extremely appreciative of your long standing loyalty not only to the brand but to that store its self. B. The store may not have a mass of tough competition amongst clients i.e. supply and demand more easily met at that store(to put in perspective my store is in the top 20 for top grossing hermes stores Worldwide saying its beyond even cut-throat here i cant even count on my two hands the amount of clients who easily spent 130kaud+ a year on non bags) C. You have a fabulous relationship with the store which relates alot to (A) as well. D. You seem to buy items that are high Commission and signature pieces that are representative of the house e.g. silks is a quintessential H item rather than small leather goods/rodeos which barely fetch any commission for an SA E. Frankly i feel its a combination of everything and everyone will always have different experiences because every store is totally different i even know at my store someone who only bought a calvi went on the waitlist for a B30 neutral and got offered B30 gold ghw 3yrs later 🤷♀️ No rhyme or reason 😂
Thanks for sharing. I used to swear i was not going in Hermes game. But last month for the first time, i just wanted to try sandals - i ended up going home with a picotin. Now i feel like i am obsessed with Hermes and i dont even like Birkin and Kelly that much (i am more into Chanel style). Weird isn’t it? 😣
Thank you for this review, it’s very helpful. I have just started my Hermès journey with my first bag, an Herbag bought online. My dream bag is a C18, so I guess I’ll try to do what you did 😀 There are a lot of accessories I was going to by online but now I think I’ll go to the boutique.
After listening to your story, I must say I am glad I am not playing the Hermes game. Sounds like a full-time job, and I personally think their business model is ridiculous. I would love a Kelly but I'm not playing that game. I'll get a Picotin if I find the right color and maybe a pair of shoes, but honestly that's all I plan on getting in the future (I have a few costume jewelry pieces, a belt, and an Evelyne bag already). My problem with resellers is the jacked up prices. So I doubt a Kelly or Birkin will be in my future. Thanks for sharing.
I'd suggest Preloved route especially k32 b35 U can buy under RRP. But not right now cos of covid prices are jacked cos less bags in the market overall
This is very informative! I’m starting my Hermès journey, but i feel like buying preloved first and just getting things I like from the boutique until I get offered a Birkin or jelly. I don’t have a good SA either they keep leaving 😞
yes i think buying your first bag preloved is best... waiting on the boutique can be really stressful. second bag or so on is better to chase at boutique but still then as you can see can be really hard...
I’ve always loved the LV Galliera ..I’ve heard however there was a recurrent problem with the rings causing the bag to turn dark. Did you have this problem ? You’re lovely xo 💞🎀
I sell on vestiaire collective, Facebook groups like hermes addicted or there are some luxury groups in aus if you can dm me on Instagram ill send you a list of them. I did consign my c24 with anns fabulous finds as they have the best rate you get 90% of the sale
I also forgot my friend has a consignment business he is based in sydney called conrads closet if you dont want any of the risks to sell yourself. Ill be featuring him on a vlog soon x
Thanks for the info. I’m currently trying to get offered my second bag. Well really before the next price increase. Watched your price increase video for 2021. You’ve convinced me that I should really consider the second hand market. 😅
I do love shopping Preloved and resale it definitely takes the stress out. But I still want the occasional bag at boutique cos I like other items from Hermes so seems only fair that if I'm spending on other things I should still get the occasional bag offer.. but it surely isn't easy once U become a regular client😩
Purseonfleek I’m in Calgary, Canada. One of three cities in Canada that has a Hermes boutique. The two other cities have a lot more people and demand. Our province has had an economic downturn and hence less people buying luxury or buying less frequently. My friend gets offered a bag every year. And I don’t feel she spends excessively on other items. Hopefully I don’t need to spend a fortune before my second. I was telling my husband your experience and he was horrified. I don’t think he understood you have to keep on spending to get offered another bag.😆
If I look back at this video I don’t feel you had found your journey to be honest. Hope you did now ❤️ can’t believe you sold all the Hermès bags you mention, I can imagine Hermès noticed this too and didn’t want to sell to you anymore (of course you have every right), you were obviously ‘punished’ for it, it seems like it. Hard policy but it is what it is, it’s in their terms and conditions….
I think the most important thing is patience. I did lose quite a bit with my Kelly but it’s lesson learnt. Unlike others I don’t get angry about the system and I don’t mind buying preloved anyway and I still stood by the quality. The quality and the exclusivity is unparalleled
Yes agreed the quality and exclusivity is unparalleled. And patience is definitely something I learned the hard way but it taught me a valuable lesson when it comes to boutique shopping 😁
So what if you were to get offered a bag, but you aren’t crazy about the color, so you turn it down. Does this hurt your future chances? Im worried I will get offered a non-practical color. Or is everyone’s first Hermes boutique offer usually a unique color? Im starting to do my research.
I haven't been in a situation where i had to decline however I have heard that people have declined and had no problems getting an offer again later but generally u still have to keep shopping whilst waiting for the next offer if u want to stay in mind
Omg!!! Thanks so much for replying so quickly💕💕💕. Okay this has helped alot, I guess I just need to make sure me and my SA are thick as thieves so I can trust her choices/offers. Have a great day 💕
@@happycrocodile30 no problem. Yes absolutely this is important be very clear about your style even show her photos of your purse collection thats what i do and i talk about new upcoming colours that i really like. All these paint a great picture for her/he to understand whats your style because essentially they dont want to get it wrong either because they need to get SM approval to release the bag to you also. Best of luck!
Thank you for your video! I wish I have seen it earlier. I have encountered a bit of problem in my journey…I started my journey early 2021, spent about 13k within my SA and requested for a bk. She told me I am qualified for a 35 (30 requires for spending) and I agreed to it. (In Black/taupe/gold Togo) I waited over 6 months now and still no bag….I followed up 3 times (while inquiring other rtw pieces) during this time and I barely gets reply or very delayed reply telling me it is not available yet (no stock for other items neither) I am very confused …lately there are more and more horror stories where people spend over 2x ratio and end up with nothing..Can you kindly share some advise :( I start to feel that I have been ‘tricked’ anything else I could do? Ps I am based in southern California
i did hear that USA is having a stock crisis and its probably only the VVIP who will get offers for the desirable sizes this year. I would say best not to spend anymore and wait for next year because the odds are not in your favour. And yes for sure its very common people spend 2x the ratio and get nothing.... thats also why i prefer resale market (video on my channel where i buy my H bags now) and wont play their games anymore. better to try in france where there is no games if can get an appointment.
@@Purseonfleek thank you for the reply and I am very sorry for the late response i haven’t log on to UA-cam in a while lol. Yeah I gave up on the Hermes store in south California, it’s way too competitive here and SA start to takes ppl for granted due to their marketing strategy. I will not recommend anyone new to visit south coast plaza location, unless they will be a serious spender on their fine jewelry and houseware.
totally understandable. i was just telling someone today who reached out to my on IG my main motivating reason to post this video is because i am tired of the bullshit lies you see on social media. lots of people make it seem so easy to score a bag locally and they barely spend a thousand which i know is not the case. just many IG bloggers including the "rich" like to conceal what they really spend which causes so many misconceptions for people and really leads to people feeling disappointed when they too try to obtain a dream bag.
Purseonfleek That’s quite a journey and money to be offered an Hermes B or K.. Idk if would even go there. I feel like the preloved market is my best bet for an Hermes. But good to know that it doesn’t come easy. Anyway, perseverance is key if buying in store and more money. 😅
@@KennyFortaleza agreed the resale market honestly is a lot easier and overall cost wise can be much less. The store offer for a bag is more of an experience but really its not exactly necessary; nice but its a short lived experience that makes you only crave for that experience again(short term high) - thats me being honest 😩
The marketing/selling techniques Hermes uses is more than annoying for customers I agree, but it’s what allows them to value their bags so high and sell them for such exorbitant prices. If they just sold to everyone and had the same process as other fashion houses, they’d lose a lot of the value they’ve worked so hard for🤷🏻♀️
Hi did you tell to you hermès seller that you sell the birkin rose ? Sorry for my bad English (I m for south of France ) if you tell her what did she said to you ? Cause I got à hermès Birkin 30 black Togo gold hardware and I sell it cause it was to big for me and now I want a birkin 25 but I am scared that they ask me where is the black one ... I hope you understand me
You mean did i tell my SA? I didnt say as much directly but more so implied that the colour hasnt worked out for me but my SAs have changed another 2x again since then lol. However from what i have read on tpf its none of Hermes business if you sold something that u later learned didnt work out its only a problem if you are just scoring bags to resell for profit only - which is definitely not what i do.
Have you tried auctions like sotheby's or Christie's I lost on sotheby's it was my first time but my wife loved the bag so we now regret not going higher but with the 25% premium it was going up to 22k cdn plus shipping so I stopped lately won a ostrich bearn wallet in great condition but also have bought a evelyne iii and herbag zip from SA i just feel they dont respond to emails unless you are buying another item anyway the SA is cool I'll give it more time but in meantime I keep watching auctions I'm afraid of other sites due to fakes .
I havent heard of Sotheby's but i know of Christies and Heritage Auctions. I havent tried either as I do find the process a bit confusing but i should look into them a bit more.
Thanks for sharing and the great advice. I am reluctant to start my Hermes boutique journey, I was thinking to get from reseller. Do you mind I DM you some questions about a bag? Thanks!!
Resale is a great option as you get to pick what you want and u know what spend is required of you upfront . If you are looking for some advice best to DM me on Instagram as UA-cam doesnt give instant notifications for messages 👍
Thanks for sharing, you are so funny and bright. With all that money you could go to Paris and try everyday to make an appointment. I’ve heard they don’t keep track of a history background of the costumer. You remind me of the younger Winona Ryder and a cousin of mine, mixed together. Love your personality 😊👍🏼
Awww thankyou , you are too sweet and kind! And i wish i had the luxury of travel I'm not keen on the idea of going overseas with a toddler, waiting until she is older. But its an extremely valid point and its why i regret having spent that much since i could have used that to even pick exactly what i wanted in the resale market! Whats frustrating with Hermes is that once u spend a good amount and your SA leaves your mentality is "well i have already started my journey [with a sufficient spend] to get a bag i cant stop now or its all for nothing" - just a real shame i had continued bad luck with the next SA and not until the 3rd was i finally given a bag. This time around even though again my SA has left and im with a new one im keeping track of my spend and i will stop once i reach my threshold; bag or not i wont fall into the entrapment again if they want my continued business they will offer me a bag when i have said why i stopped 💪
Niel Wong Oh really? I thought you have to get an appointment, which is very hard to get, and then you can buy the bag. But you are probably right I don’t know, I just like to watch. I am afraid I don’t like the bag after a while and it’s too much money to invest.
@@famt5043 in France they can access your profile and you are capped at 2 b or k per year constance is not a capped bag. Have to try get an appointment using the online system which is hard but still better odds of scoring a bag in France without prespending. Unlike local boutiques in most countries prespending is required
I don’t know 🤷♀️ I don’t want to judge but is it really worth going through this? I am exhausted just listening how Hermès plays the game With buyers. You can use that money to invest on real estate 🏡
Its personal preference if U fall in love with the brand then to the eyes of that person it may be worth it. I like to shop secondhand market for Hermes also since it's less stressful and you can save money too but I also enjoy items from Hermes so I buy what I love from the house and hope to also score a Beautiful dream bag too . Btw I already have real estate investment as well as stocks and shares 😬
Sounds interesting and fun to obtain bags and stuff from Hermès. I suppose it can be sort of scary and stressful since your investing a lot of money. These are serious purchases. Life is short to never even try to go after what we want❤️
I jus realized I watched this video already. It was new to me the second time around. I’m obsessed with luxury stuff and quality leathers and craftsmanship. It makes life worth living.❤️
its good to be fully informed! i know many people who have watched this video many times to fully understand the process before they start shopping at Hermes :)
They want to stop the preloved market as well but they have no right they cannot stop ppl selling their items as long as they are not pretending to be affiliated with Hermes. But they can ban who they know has sold an item,,, even though their tactic is to sell you 40k + worth of other stuff just to then sell you a 15k bag. But if you sell one of those items in that 40k they want to ban u lol. I really don't know why I shopped at their stores 😂 when I could have been buying everyone's bait for dirt cheap
My fave bags are the K25 gris asphalt and K25 rose Jaipur. Both bought resale ~2k/each over retail vs 22k+ from store w/o a bag! Looks like outside Paris, buying from the store is not worth it.
It's very true you do typically need to spend more in store than what's required in resale these days..that's why I film these honest videos because I feel people should be able to make a fair choice whether they love buying other Hermes items and then the reward of getting the elusive bag(which in my case I don't mind doing that pending they don't draw the blood from me which is what they had done so after my first bag and that annoyed me) or if the person just rather go straight to resale market pick what they want pay a few thousand over retail because there isn't much else they want to buy from the boutique.
Wow, u have such a roller coasters experience with Hermes!! 5 SA is really 😱😱😱 I have 2 SA. Cos the first one wasn’t very helpful. I find that he wasn’t sincere and was like ‘looking down on me’ ( Cos I was no where like those rich ladies ya). I was lucky to find this 2nd SA, who happen to be an ex colleague to my friend. We clicked and I got my first Birkin slightly less then a year. And I spent 1:1 in the store. I too was like not pacing myself, and appear in the store like almost every month. But I must say that u were very lucky with ur sales of ur bags. I always sell my at a great loss 😭😭 Thanks for sharing ur story and tips dear
That was a good move to change i too have felt that with one of my SAs its best to move on when you get the vibe your not appreciated because you arent one of their rich clients.
I'll be filming a 10 things about me video soon and this will be one of the things I talk about 😁 in a nutshell Im an entrepreneur but I'm also very good with money I don't go and buy coffees i only buy takeaway maybe once a month and I'm a Mum in my 30s so I don't have expenses going out alot that younger adults may have.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I can totally relate with you and im glad we are not alone. I was wondering where do you sell your bag? Do you have to ship your bag outside of Australia in order to prep for selling? Im worried that it will get damaged prior to selling and the value will just go down. Or they will return it after purchase etc. thanks for your help. Maybe a video on how to sell your bags, and tips out there for those contemplating on selling their birkin or kelly.
Purseonfleek that would be very helpful. Like you i am still continuing to chase that dream hermes bag and still waiting for my SA to email me this month as I am on my 6th month mark and hve surpassed the 1:1 and still nothing
@@mommybirkinlife1546 has it been 1:1 on items not including bags(like pico eve etc)? If so i would suggest send an email and say you are going to take a break from shopping for a bit until a dream bag comes as even though u have more items on your wishlist you feel you have spent a considerable amount at the store and if she can please try to get approval from the SM for your dream bag soon? I have found just outright asking when you have spent a decent amount works but in my instance when i spent a decent amount my SA would change so i at least had to spend a little to build some relationship but if you have done 1:1 with the one SA thats more than enough to start pushing for a bag now...
Don’t like Birkins or Kelly’s...no matter how beautifully made, They are heavy...a pain to get into, not versatile...way over rated. I guess playing the game of thrones is the thrill of it. I am a more mature Lady and don’t like these dated and tired designs. I guess it is what it is, But geez not worth the hassle, and I love luxury bags...more of a Chanel gal. Even they are getting lunatic with their pricing. Keeping clients in the hunt is The appeal I guess. I enjoy a great bag, but wow not worth it to me, this Insult game Hermès plays. Try not to get burned 😀
Hi, im still in the Chanel wave,love the Kelli but hate how Hermes do business,,such an expensive item and we have to beg for one,,I dont like it but won’t say never cause maybe in the future I change my mind, for now Im going to stay with Chanel
Chanel is wonderful. But yes i dont like how they do business. I can understand building a relationship buy some product to prove loyalty but they do push a bit too much expecting so much of people. Unless they only want the super rich to buy their products? But i find its the super rich who dont even appreciate the fine details in the craftsmanship, the leather properties and their behaviour in designs and so forth. to the rich its just a status symbol to them.
"The more you can't have it, the more you want it." Quintessential eternal hunger of the human heart.
Alot of truth to this. But in my case what drives my love is the craftsmanship its stunning it feels so different holding a Hermes bag than it does another brand for me. But not all Hermes bags work for me just like i am realising the constance is not for me ...
The level of transparency around $$$ spent, rate of spend, and boutique politik-ing provided in your video is invaluable. You can only see the true extent of damage done once the shopping fog clears. I wish more Hermes-youtubers were as frank about their purchases as you.
Thanks very much for the honesty and vulnerability.
i too wish more youtubers who discuss hermes we more honest!
H offered you multiple bags so I’m a little confused over your video a month ago. I agree that it’s good to slow down your spending so that SAs don’t see you as someone who will spend just to get the B or K. If they know you’re desperate, they’ll use your desire to fuel more sales.
Slow down. Buy what delights you. There’s no good reason to rush. If you don’t like anything other than the B or K, buy pre loved and send it to a bag spa.
This is the most honest video I think on Hermes in whole, thank you for being so honest! I just love Hermes and I love hearing about others stories with them :)
Thankyou! I pride myself on being a honest person and what encouraged me to film this video is that im tired of the dishonesty of people especially on Instagram when it comes to the reality of scoring the dream Birkin or Kelly bags it's not as easy as some people make it seem unless U go to tourist stores 🧡
The workmanship of Hermes is unparalleled but the business model is ridiculous (from the customer point of view). All these caveats on selling to in store customers, supposedly justified on the basis of 'fairness', and yet the resale market thrives on the fact that their agents are repeatedly buying in store to re-market.for profit. So the Hermes customer 'profiles' are pretty useless if truly geared to identifying and rewarding 'genuine' lover of Hermes. It doesn't sit well with me at all.
Thats true. I know the resale market is usually selling the bags scored in France. I know of a friend who scored 2 bags in a few days in France no spending required. It frustrates me because the stock they release that way in France why cant they just provide more stock to local boutiques and remove all this high profile spending to score a bag? Fair enough spending up to 4-5k in other items between bags as u are generally limited to two bags per year anyway but realistically its more than that, that i have to spend everytime i wish to acquire a dream bag. Its very annoying if they can do otherwise in France but not in other boutiques in Aus, USA etc.
@@Purseonfleek I'm pretty sure it's not just France. I am London based, and whilst we don't have the same appointment based system the Paris stores have to allow 'tourists' to go in and potentially buy with no sales history, I am aware from contacts that Hermes deals with professional buyers here with no particular limitation on number of bags. That's actually how most minor celebs score their bags - they don't buy directly. I can't believe the same doesn't happen in New York and other big cities. The amount of stock re-sellers have to shift suggests they aren't just getting supplies from 'pretend' tourists in three Paris stores!
@@Missfrankiecat oh yes thats a very valid point i have heard very similar. And that Hermes knows very well they are resellers and personal shoppers 🤔
Missfrankiecat yes I agree wholeheartedly!
I don't know about the workmanship of their bags, but the workmanship of their dressage saddles leaves much to be desired.
Wow. This is a powerful video. First of all, I agree with how the Purseforum (and by extension Pursebop) can literally brainwash you into liking Hermes. At one point, I was totally desensitized by their prizes, thinking Louis and Chanel were cheaper. Good thing I slapped my self out of it and, like you, found my real style with Chanel.
My main take-away here is if you’re chasing bags from Hermes, go towards the second-hand market. It seems to me that the boutiques will totally only cater to those who have tens of thousands lying around to spend on a teacup or a saddle.
Thank you for your honesty!
i love your reply! you are totally right with everything you said and i am glad you were able to take away from this the true facts of "cost" when it really comes to chasing a dream B/k/c but if the person is happy to buy items they like and the dream bag is a bonus thats fine but for me there was that period of time where i was buying things i like but doing it too fast in hope to get a bag and of course it just led to regret and disappointment. however i have definitely learned my lesson and doing alot better now with prioritising my H wishlist but ultimately i would never lie and I am infact chasing a bag; of course xD. I am very glad you have found your style with Chanel there is nothing like knowing what brand really sings to your heart than just buying into a lot of marketing hype and not having anything that really resonates with your style. Glad you enjoyed the video xo
Love this. So true!
Hermes got hired in hell to cure vampilisim even the crackheads researched
A wealth of information thank you the one variable you didn’t talk about is age because at 61 when I walk into the boutiques it’s like Christmas in June. Everyone is so nice to me and they figure I’ve got oodles and oodles of money to spend and they offer me all kinds of bags and customer service champagne galore they don’t worry about me or send the security guards to stalk me. It’s not fair to you young girls who are so knowledgeable about these bags but on the other hand all the boys love you all the sales associates love me wrinkles and all As a sidenote your information about pre-loved markets is invaluable thank you again
that is sooo interesting to know! I am glad you filled me in, i agree i have actually seen this in the boutique for more mature age women :)
Thank you sooo much for this journey you shared. There is a crazy addiction that happens with Hermes and no one ever talks about it. Hugs and love
Yes 100% agreed!
I haven't seen someone else documenting their neurosis so thoroughly. love it
I felt exhausted for you by learning your journey. All in all you got your dream bags & had an invaluable lesson for everyone. Thanks for sharing !
appreciate your sense of humour throughout this, made it very entertaining, thanks.
I’m a new subbie !! Chanel makes my heart sing luckily and haven’t had the hermes itch. Thank you for sharing really enjoyed hearing about your journey
Its always a delight to know what brand really makes your heart sing! And Chanel is classic and elegant its definitely a beautiful brand❤️
Wow. What a history you have had with Hermes. Thank you for sharing.
I love how you share where you got everything, thank you!!!!
even though this was a long video, your story telling made it quite easy to keep watching! thank you for sharing.
Thankyou im glad it wasnt boring ! 😅😅
Thanks for sharing! I am just starting my Hermes collection and I appreciate your honesty
You are so welcome!
Your videos are SO MUCH MORE INFORMATIVE than nearly any other YT’er who talks about Hermes. Thank you.
U are welcome!
I understand the want for exclusive but you have to question..."do i really need to beg a company to take my money". At the end of the day it's always about what's important to you. I respect that you're dedicated to obtaining the things you like/want. I found your video informative. Thanks
It's a very valid point. I think it's because previously with my first offer it was easier and I love their bags so what I spent in store ended up being less than the premium I would have paid in the resale market. But it was so disappointing that after that bag it was soooo hard to get my next bag...
Thanks so much for sharing your story. It’s so sad what Hermès makes people go through.... yet the Kardashian’s have soooo many bags. As much as I want a Kelly, the way the Hermès company makes some people jump through the hoops and others not. I also find selling these super expensive bags scary (to do it myself) in this era of internet scammers. You’re lucky that your husband is supportive of your purchases. ❤️👍
Your concerns are perfectly normal and to be honest i share some of those same concerns and opinions too especially about the needing to jump through hoops where as for some others its effortless/easy to obtain what they most desire from the store. But of course like i say to anyone u must do what you feel comfortable doing and take the time to think whats best for your situation/what you are ok with. I have regrets no doubt like i outlined in my video but i definitely have learned from those so i wont be repeating my mistakes 😂. Also RE: my husband he doesnt like my luxury shopping at all but he trusts that i would never put our family finances at risk and knows i do what i can to earn funds to pay for my luxury purchases which also includes alot of purging luxury items i no longer use or not getting the use out of i cant justify an item sitting there looking pretty which is a big reason why i dont even have a big Hermes collection i have used and resold alot when im not in love with the item anymore 😬
You should do a video going over all your Hermès purchases other than dream bags. I’m curious what you spent all that money on.
Mostly shoes fashion jewellery scarves bag charms mini evelyne. I wouldnt be able to remember all of them to recap a video.
I’ve been so turned off from my SA that I haven’t shopped at the boutique for like a year. I’ve only been looking on the resale market
For me i have been turned off by the whole experience lol. My last bag i spent 1.5:1 before an offer because i had 2 SAs leave this time around another SA left so am now on a new one and have spend 0.75:1 so decided to give up unless there is something i absolutely really really must have then i may go to boutique. I love shopping resale because i get to pick what i want and now days the premium isnt as crazy anymore. Far less stress 😌
Purseonfleek I agree!!!
I really enjoyed this video and honest you are through your journey.
Thanks for sharing! What I heard from the Hawaii shop was that the sales who reserved the item for you would get the commission so it doesn’t matter who was serving you when you go pick it up. But maybe it works differently in Australia!
Elly Tsai that seems to be the case with most lux shops. I’ve noticed that my SA ‘s name was on my receipts when they were not even working that day. If you let your SA know that you are coming I think they have another SA take care of it then they do the same for them later.
oh RIP could even mean what i spent with the new SA didnt count to my new quota spend post bag offer haha
Purseonfleek I understand losing an SA sets you back a bit but you still have the sales history with the store and country. Wouldn’t it be better to build a relationship with the manager? The individual SA would not matter so much. Seems like that works in US.
Did she say "it didn't resignate with me"?!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you so much for your extremely honest and hence, helpful sharing!!!!!! Scored my first birkin with all the tips you offered via IG DM earlier this month, so I love that you offered even more insight in this video! Jotting them down to hopefully get my second bag with the store!!! Can’t wait for your next video!
This is by far the most informative video in terms of sales experience/boutique tips that I have come across. Thank you!
You are welcome!
Would love to know a bit more about Australia resale market. From the little research I've done, it seems the consignment fee is really high in local consignment stores, so I couldn't see myself going that route to sell.
To be honest i dont deal with any consignment stores in Aus because i find the market is high priced due to less B/K/C being available here. I much prefer the Asian consignment stores , Europe or US ones. When i do consign a Hermes bag i prefer Anns Fabulous Finds in the US as they have a lower commission and a big US market of buyers. I will be uploading a new video in a week talking about where I recommend to buy Hermes bags that cater to the average person rather than the super elite/rich
thanks for sharing... this is hands down the most inspiring & honest hermes video I've watched :)
You are very welcome 🧡
Appreciate all the details! Thank you for sharing - just subscribed!
you are very welcome!
I enjoyed every single minute of your journey of Hermes. One thing I agree with you that you bought bags from outside of retail store by paying the premium . It is true that in order to get a bag, you may need to pay more than premium. I was very lucky got my first Birkin as a wonderful SA. I do want to get Kelly bag but I still afraid to approach to her. Because I am thinking maybe the second Hermes won’t be so easier. Thank You so much for sharing your journey. Love this video ❤️
It really boils down to relationship with the SA and the level of competition you have at the store because when the store manager decides he or she will be reviewing the profile benchmarked against the rest. In my instance i feel its alot to do with SA turn over and stiff competition that meant i had such a long wait between bags and unlucky for me i spent more than i was comfortable between bags too... But your scenario could be totally different to mine and may not be so hard but frankly i cannot deny the resale market from reputable stores is quite enticing since their prices even though with a premium arent so bad in retrospect to an unknown figure u need to spend in store to show loyalty and commitment to score a dream bag too. Alot of complexities and like I said in the video many variables so there is no one size fits all scenario but i wish you the best of luck!
Thank you so much, this was an awesome review, which is so helpful to many of us!!! Highly appreciated!!
Wow this switching SA game of Hermès does help it driving up its revenue a lot..
Absolutely it is!
Great video, raw and honest! I recently purchased my first Birkin from a consignment shop. What I wanted, a black 30cm togo silver hardware is highly sort after, and since I don't live near an Hermes store,(no chance to build a relationship with an SA), and I didn't want to go to the mothership in Paris, get denied multiple times by the appointment system, or get an appointment only to be offered a bag that wasn't what I specifically wanted, or to be told no stock. I paid slightly over retail, for my holy grail, but I'm content. I plan to go to Europe next year for a vacation, so I will add an Evelyne to my collection( if available). I will probably get another Birkin at some point, but I will definitely go the re-sale route again. Hopefully the small bag trend tapers off, and I can get another 30cm dark neutral at or under retail. I realize now that even having/building a relationship with a SA doesn't always guarantee that one will get what they want. I think that I'll purchase items that I want in Europe, scarves, etc..but I'll hope the re-sale market as well! thank you for being honest about your journey.
Great choice! That's absolutely right the boutique has lesser odds of offering you exactly what you want and like in my situation my first offer I was offered something great but it wasn't what I exactly what I wanted as I had kept asking for a Kelly even though I took the bag because I loved it, that feeling didn't last because it wasn't working for me nor was it my first choice it was just the boutique experience had me at bliss but that feeling never lasts - but picking exactly what you want by resale definitely gives U better chances of loving the bag forever😁
@@Purseonfleek I agree, I love my Birkin!
It’s sought-after.
I loved hearing your journey although def wasn’t an easy one. Would love to know what’s next on your wishlist from H 💕💕💕
From store id love a k25/c18 but u cant hedge your bets it could end up being k28/b25 who knows 🤷♀️
From all of your story with them I fell like customers are not get treat like a customer. That is too stressful and a lot of work to buy a bag which is just a BAG. The design and the craftsmanship are amazing but it is not definitely enjoying experience to me. To get an offer a bag which you may not 100% love you have to force yourself go the boutique to find something to buy that help you keep relationship with their SA. And spend thousands but may not get an offer.
You are very right. Its a real shame the artisans which i have the most respect for, for making such beautiful works of art are not the ones calling the shots on how bags should be sold. Its a drive from corporate unfortunately in most countries other than Paris FSH that spend = bag score. Its a shame they cant evaluate those who are buying for status(elite/rich) vs buying for appreciation of art and sell to those who are the latter
you look so gorgeous in this video! Very refreshing look!
That's sounds like a very frustrating 'full-time job'. No bag is worth all that money and frustration. It's JUST a bag and Hermes is playing with you! A dream bag? sounds like a nightmare, lol.
Thats a fair call and a big reason why i shop resale preloved now for my Hermes bags
@@atana117 fashion phile is very trustworthy but of course super fakes can slip through the cracks. its not prevalent in any way on FP.
Thanks for sharing your story with Hermès with us. Many lessons to learn
What happened to the “Hermès made me cry” video? I was 30 minutes into watching it and it literally disappeared and this video came up. Now I can’t find it anywhere. I’m so upset I didn’t get to finish it. 🥲
If you DM me on IG I can send U an unlisted link
@@Purseonfleek how does one afford such bags?
I liked listening about your history with Hermès. My question is, how does one afford an offered Birkin or Kelly after spending thousands at the store on shoes, jewelry, etc? Do we save up for the time we get offered?
Definitely have to keep saving on the side for the score. In my case I often saved + purged other luxe bags that weren't making my heart sing anymore. I'm constantly doing Marie Kondo on my luxe goodies 😂
Did you tell them on your first visit what bag you wanted so they could keep you in mind.
No i didnt because the SA's dont really like that better to bring up on second visit
Wow, this was the best overview of the intricate Hermes system! Thanks for sharing all of your amazing insight! I know it was a lot of work but it’s super appreciated.
Thankyou for appreciating the effort I put into sharing my honest journey❤️
Love this video and love the detail. Obviously Hermes is driving u crazy and keeping u in this love hate love relationship. Sometimes it has the power and sometimes u have the power lol. Ultimately Hermes is the way to go because they are timeless.
Haha yes it's definitely a love hate relationship 😅😅 . I wish to one day shake the hands of an artisans for Hermes though as I love what they create. No other brand feels the same
ThanIk you for sharing your journey with us. It was so informative and helpful. Your honesty is so refreshing and puts so much into perspective for the H journey. Thank you again. ❤️
You are welcome and i am glad the video was informative ❤️
Thank you! This was really educational, and to be honest exhausting hearing about the back and forth. You have such stamina and passion, it was enthralling to watch! I now appreciate the effort (and money) it takes to get one of these bags. I'm new to the brand (only a year or so into my H journey). I'm not sure if I'm ready for Birkin and I'm turning 40 next week! So you've had a great start being only 30 years old. I'm currently waiting for my Kelly 28 togo in blue jean at the moment and I am beyond excited. Thank you again xx
Thankyou I am happy to hear this video was very helpful! And welcome to the orange side 😆. Whether you decide to persue in store or resale i wish you the best of luck with your Hermes journey. Kelly 28 is a fabulous bag and bleu jean is great casual colours goes well with Jeans also excuse the pun 😅
Wow! The story so similar with mine! No wonder Hermès sales goes up 25% every year!!
I know right! Even my store is top 20 for top grossing Hermes stores worldwide... Its no wonder right?! Out for our blood lol
So there is no way to buy a bag at the store without a previous purchase?
Its possible at FSH Paris ! But as far as i know other boutiques require prespending or some in tourist locations require you to spend at least 60% of the cost of the bag on other items(excluding bags) and then u will get an elusive bag on same day. From what i have heard thats Hawaii and korea but it also depends on who the SA is, it may not always work.
No thank you!
Thank you for sharing your experience in acquiring your wish list items from Hermes. I have to say that I could feel your pain especially when you were doing all the maths! My experience so far has been rather different and I am not quite sure myself how it happened.
I am a regular shopper (even more dedicated window shopper!) at my local luxury shopping centre which houses a number of luxury brands such as Hermes, Chanel and LV; albeit smaller stores by comparison to the major European cities near me. I have always been a fan of Hermes accessories but back in 2010 I was not at all keen on their B&K. I spent some money on their enamel bangles and shoes simply because I love them. I never asked for any bags until 2014 - I went in to request a Bleu Eletrique B30 for a friend of mine who was dying to get her hands on one. 12 months later the bag came and that was that.
A few months after, the assistant manager contacted me to inform that the manager was going to Paris just before the summer break and if I was looking to express interest in any bags. I casually mentioned a red K32 preferably a Rouge Garance; but I was not really expecting it to happen. The following summer, they offered me a K32 in Rouge Casaque which I loved but declined and that was that. I was also then offered a black K32 the following year which I obtained.
Anyways, I am now onto my bag no 4 which is a K28 Sellier in Noir PHW which was offered to me in April of this year - again, casually mentioned that I would love a black Kelly coz it’s easy and I reckoned I would carry it everywhere! I have to say that I have not bought anything from Hermes in the last year as I was getting a few stuff from LV so this K28 came as a pleasant surprise and totally unexpected- truth be told I had forgotten that I did mention a black Kelly to them last year!
So far I have been offered and/or bought 1 birkin and 3 kellys since 2014. I have also requested and bought bags such as the Lindy and Halzan from my local boutique as well as ordering shoes/sandals. I have also shopped online and did get a couple of bags too. It may be imperative to mention that I am also obsessed with their 90x90 silk scarves and I do have a few of them but I don’t think this has major influence in getting offered the bags as I only started my scarves madness in 2017 (but I’m sure it helps with the subsequent requests/offers)!
To be very frank, I don’t have a specific SA that I go to though I am friendly with most of the SA in my local boutique (it being small and all the SAs are very personable) including the assistant manager and the store manager. Whenever I go in (which is often to window shop and admire the craftsmanship, not to buy) I would say hi to all the SA (I do know them by their first names) and introduce myself to the new SA that I haven’t met before. We would chat about the craftsmanship, the quality of the beautiful items I am interested in and the history behind the designs.
Our conversation never really leads to me asking for a bag but rather the SA would remind me to tell them if I would have any requests. I do think having a relationship with them is important but it does not have to be based on big purchases. I feel like they appreciate my love for the craftsmanship in their leather goods and silks - and perhaps that’s why they have been very thoughtful in making contact with me before each Paris trip. I do not dress up when I go in - and I am just a girl-next-door who loves bags and shoes. I find that if the SA can relate to you, you may have a better chance at striking up a genuine SA-client relationship but I wouldn’t do this so I would be offered a bag. I have truly enjoyed my experience with Hermes so far and I hope this offers a helpful but different perspective for others who are keen to purchase any of their items.
That is fantastic! I do know pre 2014 it wasnt as hard to get b/k but since you are still getting bags but not spending an arm an a leg it sounds like either
A. the store is extremely appreciative of your long standing loyalty not only to the brand but to that store its self.
B. The store may not have a mass of tough competition amongst clients i.e. supply and demand more easily met at that store(to put in perspective my store is in the top 20 for top grossing hermes stores Worldwide saying its beyond even cut-throat here i cant even count on my two hands the amount of clients who easily spent 130kaud+ a year on non bags)
C. You have a fabulous relationship with the store which relates alot to (A) as well.
D. You seem to buy items that are high Commission and signature pieces that are representative of the house e.g. silks is a quintessential H item rather than small leather goods/rodeos which barely fetch any commission for an SA
E. Frankly i feel its a combination of everything and everyone will always have different experiences because every store is totally different i even know at my store someone who only bought a calvi went on the waitlist for a B30 neutral and got offered B30 gold ghw 3yrs later 🤷♀️
No rhyme or reason 😂
Natt Nor what store do you go to?
Thanks for sharing. I used to swear i was not going in Hermes game. But last month for the first time, i just wanted to try sandals - i ended up going home with a picotin. Now i feel like i am obsessed with Hermes and i dont even like Birkin and Kelly that much (i am more into Chanel style). Weird isn’t it? 😣
The picotin is a great bag! I hope to add a picotin in my collection soon. Super congrats!
Thank you for this review, it’s very helpful. I have just started my Hermès journey with my first bag, an Herbag bought online. My dream bag is a C18, so I guess I’ll try to do what you did 😀 There are a lot of accessories I was going to by online but now I think I’ll go to the boutique.
yes definitely . there is another video on my channel, top 10 tips to score a birkin or kelly fast - you should watch that too!
Love this!! Thanks for your transparency!! ♥️
Ah! Such a great channel! Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for sharing so many useful informations 🙏🏼
You are welcome! I have an updated Hermes journey video coming within a month!
After listening to your story, I must say I am glad I am not playing the Hermes game. Sounds like a full-time job, and I personally think their business model is ridiculous. I would love a Kelly but I'm not playing that game. I'll get a Picotin if I find the right color and maybe a pair of shoes, but honestly that's all I plan on getting in the future (I have a few costume jewelry pieces, a belt, and an Evelyne bag already). My problem with resellers is the jacked up prices. So I doubt a Kelly or Birkin will be in my future. Thanks for sharing.
I'd suggest Preloved route especially k32 b35 U can buy under RRP. But not right now cos of covid prices are jacked cos less bags in the market overall
This is very informative! I’m starting my Hermès journey, but i feel like buying preloved first and just getting things I like from the boutique until I get offered a Birkin or jelly. I don’t have a good SA either they keep leaving 😞
yes i think buying your first bag preloved is best... waiting on the boutique can be really stressful. second bag or so on is better to chase at boutique but still then as you can see can be really hard...
Very detailed shopping experience at hermes n thanks for sharing pretty momma. 👍🏻❤️😘😘😘Sandy
I’ve always loved the LV Galliera ..I’ve heard however there was a recurrent problem with the rings causing the bag to turn dark. Did you have this problem ? You’re lovely xo 💞🎀
on the strap where it wrapped around the ring yes it did turn dark but i find that happens with all LV bags where hardware meets leather
Highly enjoyed this! Would love to know where you resell your bags (too scared to sell on EBay and I have a new Constance 18 I’d like to sell).
I sell on vestiaire collective, Facebook groups like hermes addicted or there are some luxury groups in aus if you can dm me on Instagram ill send you a list of them. I did consign my c24 with anns fabulous finds as they have the best rate you get 90% of the sale
I also forgot my friend has a consignment business he is based in sydney called conrads closet if you dont want any of the risks to sell yourself. Ill be featuring him on a vlog soon x
Is Constance a quota bag?
@@JS-mg4rn no constance isnt a quota bag in Australia but some countries it is considered a quota bag
Purseonfleek thanks for the reply! :)
Hi please can you do a video of your favorite resales to get a birkin or kelly
Yes i will after my next video i will film a video listing all the resellers / consignment stores i recommend for getting a birkin/kelly.
Thank you for this video, I really appreciate you sharing your journey. The handbag high is quite an experience, hehe.
It really is! haha
Great info! Really appreciate it!
Thanks for the info. I’m currently trying to get offered my second bag. Well really before the next price increase. Watched your price increase video for 2021. You’ve convinced me that I should really consider the second hand market. 😅
I do love shopping Preloved and resale it definitely takes the stress out. But I still want the occasional bag at boutique cos I like other items from Hermes so seems only fair that if I'm spending on other things I should still get the occasional bag offer.. but it surely isn't easy once U become a regular client😩
Purseonfleek I’m in Calgary, Canada. One of three cities in Canada that has a Hermes boutique. The two other cities have a lot more people and demand. Our province has had an economic downturn and hence less people buying luxury or buying less frequently. My friend gets offered a bag every year. And I don’t feel she spends excessively on other items. Hopefully I don’t need to spend a fortune before my second. I was telling my husband your experience and he was horrified. I don’t think he understood you have to keep on spending to get offered another bag.😆
Thanks for this video! Very informative- the discussions on colors and leather types would also be interesting 🌸
Definitely will film that soon! Its on my list x
If I look back at this video I don’t feel you had found your journey to be honest. Hope you did now ❤️ can’t believe you sold all the Hermès bags you mention, I can imagine Hermès noticed this too and didn’t want to sell to you anymore (of course you have every right), you were obviously ‘punished’ for it, it seems like it. Hard policy but it is what it is, it’s in their terms and conditions….
Thanks, you were so thorough and helpful.
You are most welcome hun x
Thanks so much for sharing honest details on your Hermès journey. It’s very informative and useful for me as a Hermès newbie❤️
I buy hermes because I love their brand, i don’t assume to get any dream bag. If its meant to be, it will. Otherwise you will be frustrated.
i bought the items i wanted but yes i also wanted a dream bag too, if i had adopted your approach i wouldnt be as annoyed.
I think the most important thing is patience. I did lose quite a bit with my Kelly but it’s lesson learnt. Unlike others I don’t get angry about the system and I don’t mind buying preloved anyway and I still stood by the quality. The quality and the exclusivity is unparalleled
Yes agreed the quality and exclusivity is unparalleled. And patience is definitely something I learned the hard way but it taught me a valuable lesson when it comes to boutique shopping 😁
What do you have to do to have so much money to spend (and lose!)??
So what if you were to get offered a bag, but you aren’t crazy about the color, so you turn it down. Does this hurt your future chances? Im worried I will get offered a non-practical color. Or is everyone’s first Hermes boutique offer usually a unique color? Im starting to do my research.
I haven't been in a situation where i had to decline however I have heard that people have declined and had no problems getting an offer again later but generally u still have to keep shopping whilst waiting for the next offer if u want to stay in mind
Omg!!! Thanks so much for replying so quickly💕💕💕. Okay this has helped alot, I guess I just need to make sure me and my SA are thick as thieves so I can trust her choices/offers. Have a great day 💕
@@happycrocodile30 no problem. Yes absolutely this is important be very clear about your style even show her photos of your purse collection thats what i do and i talk about new upcoming colours that i really like. All these paint a great picture for her/he to understand whats your style because essentially they dont want to get it wrong either because they need to get SM approval to release the bag to you also. Best of luck!
Thank you so much for such an informative and honest video!
Thank you for your video! I wish I have seen it earlier. I have encountered a bit of problem in my journey…I started my journey early 2021, spent about 13k within my SA and requested for a bk. She told me I am qualified for a 35 (30 requires for spending) and I agreed to it. (In Black/taupe/gold Togo) I waited over 6 months now and still no bag….I followed up 3 times (while inquiring other rtw pieces) during this time and I barely gets reply or very delayed reply telling me it is not available yet (no stock for other items neither) I am very confused …lately there are more and more horror stories where people spend over 2x ratio and end up with nothing..Can you kindly share some advise :( I start to feel that I have been ‘tricked’ anything else I could do?
Ps I am based in southern California
i did hear that USA is having a stock crisis and its probably only the VVIP who will get offers for the desirable sizes this year. I would say best not to spend anymore and wait for next year because the odds are not in your favour. And yes for sure its very common people spend 2x the ratio and get nothing.... thats also why i prefer resale market (video on my channel where i buy my H bags now) and wont play their games anymore. better to try in france where there is no games if can get an appointment.
@@Purseonfleek thank you for the reply and I am very sorry for the late response i haven’t log on to UA-cam in a while lol. Yeah I gave up on the Hermes store in south California, it’s way too competitive here and SA start to takes ppl for granted due to their marketing strategy. I will not recommend anyone new to visit south coast plaza location, unless they will be a serious spender on their fine jewelry and houseware.
Very thorough! I’m still on the sidelines when it comes to Hermes but this is a perfect teaching lesson for me. Thank you. 🙏
totally understandable. i was just telling someone today who reached out to my on IG my main motivating reason to post this video is because i am tired of the bullshit lies you see on social media. lots of people make it seem so easy to score a bag locally and they barely spend a thousand which i know is not the case. just many IG bloggers including the "rich" like to conceal what they really spend which causes so many misconceptions for people and really leads to people feeling disappointed when they too try to obtain a dream bag.
Purseonfleek That’s quite a journey and money to be offered an Hermes B or K.. Idk if would even go there. I feel like the preloved market is my best bet for an Hermes. But good to know that it doesn’t come easy. Anyway, perseverance is key if buying in store and more money. 😅
@@KennyFortaleza agreed the resale market honestly is a lot easier and overall cost wise can be much less. The store offer for a bag is more of an experience but really its not exactly necessary; nice but its a short lived experience that makes you only crave for that experience again(short term high) - thats me being honest 😩
The marketing/selling techniques Hermes uses is more than annoying for customers I agree, but it’s what allows them to value their bags so high and sell them for such exorbitant prices. If they just sold to everyone and had the same process as other fashion houses, they’d lose a lot of the value they’ve worked so hard for🤷🏻♀️
100% agree. I get turned off too when too many UA-camrs resell their bags too much.
Hi did you tell to you hermès seller that you sell the birkin rose ? Sorry for my bad English (I m for south of France ) if you tell her what did she said to you ? Cause I got à hermès Birkin 30 black Togo gold hardware and I sell it cause it was to big for me and now I want a birkin 25 but I am scared that they ask me where is the black one ... I hope you understand me
You mean did i tell my SA? I didnt say as much directly but more so implied that the colour hasnt worked out for me but my SAs have changed another 2x again since then lol. However from what i have read on tpf its none of Hermes business if you sold something that u later learned didnt work out its only a problem if you are just scoring bags to resell for profit only - which is definitely not what i do.
Purseonfleek thank you for your answer
Have a good day
Purseonfleek they recently offered me a tpm Evelyne bleu nuit and I spend a lot to ... in porcelaine, Avalon, watches, jewelry...
Assia.E I was worried too if you could be black listed for selling a bag.
Have you tried auctions like sotheby's or Christie's I lost on sotheby's it was my first time but my wife loved the bag so we now regret not going higher but with the 25% premium it was going up to 22k cdn plus shipping so I stopped lately won a ostrich bearn wallet in great condition but also have bought a evelyne iii and herbag zip from SA i just feel they dont respond to emails unless you are buying another item anyway the SA is cool I'll give it more time but in meantime I keep watching auctions I'm afraid of other sites due to fakes .
Sorry for long messages lol
I havent heard of Sotheby's but i know of Christies and Heritage Auctions. I havent tried either as I do find the process a bit confusing but i should look into them a bit more.
Yes the only bad part is the 25% added to final price plus shipping and handling but they have some nice things btw great video honest and helpful
Thanks for sharing and the great advice. I am reluctant to start my Hermes boutique journey, I was thinking to get from reseller. Do you mind I DM you some questions about a bag? Thanks!!
Resale is a great option as you get to pick what you want and u know what spend is required of you upfront . If you are looking for some advice best to DM me on Instagram as UA-cam doesnt give instant notifications for messages 👍
Thanks for sharing, you are so funny and bright. With all that money you could go to Paris and try everyday to make an appointment. I’ve heard they don’t keep track of a history background of the costumer.
You remind me of the younger Winona Ryder and a cousin of mine, mixed together. Love your personality 😊👍🏼
Awww thankyou , you are too sweet and kind! And i wish i had the luxury of travel I'm not keen on the idea of going overseas with a toddler, waiting until she is older. But its an extremely valid point and its why i regret having spent that much since i could have used that to even pick exactly what i wanted in the resale market! Whats frustrating with Hermes is that once u spend a good amount and your SA leaves your mentality is "well i have already started my journey [with a sufficient spend] to get a bag i cant stop now or its all for nothing" - just a real shame i had continued bad luck with the next SA and not until the 3rd was i finally given a bag. This time around even though again my SA has left and im with a new one im keeping track of my spend and i will stop once i reach my threshold; bag or not i wont fall into the entrapment again if they want my continued business they will offer me a bag when i have said why i stopped 💪
fam t sorry they do keep a database
Niel Wong Oh really? I thought you have to get an appointment, which is very hard to get, and then you can buy the bag. But you are probably right I don’t know, I just like to watch. I am afraid I don’t like the bag after a while and it’s too much money to invest.
@@famt5043 in France they can access your profile and you are capped at 2 b or k per year constance is not a capped bag. Have to try get an appointment using the online system which is hard but still better odds of scoring a bag in France without prespending. Unlike local boutiques in most countries prespending is required
oh,your journey at Hermes was really tough and difficult...but its gd that u finally got a Kelly 30 bag from ur 3rd sales associate before she left.😊😊
yes B30* thank goodness...
I don’t know 🤷♀️ I don’t want to judge but is it really worth going through this? I am exhausted just listening how Hermès plays the game
With buyers. You can use that money to invest on real estate 🏡
Its personal preference if U fall in love with the brand then to the eyes of that person it may be worth it. I like to shop secondhand market for Hermes also since it's less stressful and you can save money too but I also enjoy items from Hermes so I buy what I love from the house and hope to also score a Beautiful dream bag too . Btw I already have real estate investment as well as stocks and shares 😬
It sounds like journey is just a code word for exploitation. 😡
Thank you so much for sharing. This is very useful.
Sounds interesting and fun to obtain bags and stuff from Hermès. I suppose it can be sort of scary and stressful since your investing a lot of money. These are serious purchases. Life is short to never even try to go after what we want❤️
I jus realized I watched this video already. It was new to me the second time around. I’m obsessed with luxury stuff and quality leathers and craftsmanship. It makes life worth living.❤️
its good to be fully informed! i know many people who have watched this video many times to fully understand the process before they start shopping at Hermes :)
Thank you! Very helpful video, subscribed!💕
So HERMES intimidated individuals who resell
tgeuecitems yet you can buy pre-loved items and they don’t bat an over-priced eyelid?
They want to stop the preloved market as well but they have no right they cannot stop ppl selling their items as long as they are not pretending to be affiliated with Hermes. But they can ban who they know has sold an item,,, even though their tactic is to sell you 40k + worth of other stuff just to then sell you a 15k bag. But if you sell one of those items in that 40k they want to ban u lol.
I really don't know why I shopped at their stores 😂 when I could have been buying everyone's bait for dirt cheap
This is very useful information for me, I try to get the Hermès Kelly 25. Thanks you for sharing your video 👍.
You are welcome!
Thanks. So much insight!!!
My fave bags are the K25 gris asphalt and K25 rose Jaipur. Both bought resale ~2k/each over retail vs 22k+ from store w/o a bag! Looks like outside Paris, buying from the store is not worth it.
It's very true you do typically need to spend more in store than what's required in resale these days..that's why I film these honest videos because I feel people should be able to make a fair choice whether they love buying other Hermes items and then the reward of getting the elusive bag(which in my case I don't mind doing that pending they don't draw the blood from me which is what they had done so after my first bag and that annoyed me) or if the person just rather go straight to resale market pick what they want pay a few thousand over retail because there isn't much else they want to buy from the boutique.
Thank you so much for being so honest. I felt for you.
Wow, u have such a roller coasters experience with Hermes!! 5 SA is really 😱😱😱
I have 2 SA. Cos the first one wasn’t very helpful. I find that he wasn’t sincere and was like ‘looking down on me’ ( Cos I was no where like those rich ladies ya). I was lucky to find this 2nd SA, who happen to be an ex colleague to my friend. We clicked and I got my first Birkin slightly less then a year. And I spent 1:1 in the store. I too was like not pacing myself, and appear in the store like almost every month.
But I must say that u were very lucky with ur sales of ur bags. I always sell my at a great loss 😭😭
Thanks for sharing ur story and tips dear
That was a good move to change i too have felt that with one of my SAs its best to move on when you get the vibe your not appreciated because you arent one of their rich clients.
Purseonfleek yup, not worth spending with someone that is not genuine ya
Thanks for sharing ur experience. I'm so sorry to hear some parts of it.
thankyou for your kind words!
I'm just curious.. what do you do? how do you afford all this stuff? D: how can i be like you?
I'll be filming a 10 things about me video soon and this will be one of the things I talk about 😁 in a nutshell Im an entrepreneur but I'm also very good with money I don't go and buy coffees i only buy takeaway maybe once a month and I'm a Mum in my 30s so I don't have expenses going out alot that younger adults may have.
Luved this video
You look gorgeous with the rose azalea
Thankyou 🧡
Thanks for sharing your experience. I can totally relate with you and im glad we are not alone. I was wondering where do you sell your bag? Do you have to ship your bag outside of Australia in order to prep for selling? Im worried that it will get damaged prior to selling and the value will just go down. Or they will return it after purchase etc. thanks for your help. Maybe a video on how to sell your bags, and tips out there for those contemplating on selling their birkin or kelly.
Thats a good idea i will film a video of where i buy and sell my bags. Shouldnt be too time consuming to do either 😁
Purseonfleek that would be very helpful. Like you i am still continuing to chase that dream hermes bag and still waiting for my SA to email me this month as I am on my 6th month mark and hve surpassed the 1:1 and still nothing
@@mommybirkinlife1546 has it been 1:1 on items not including bags(like pico eve etc)? If so i would suggest send an email and say you are going to take a break from shopping for a bit until a dream bag comes as even though u have more items on your wishlist you feel you have spent a considerable amount at the store and if she can please try to get approval from the SM for your dream bag soon?
I have found just outright asking when you have spent a decent amount works but in my instance when i spent a decent amount my SA would change so i at least had to spend a little to build some relationship but if you have done 1:1 with the one SA thats more than enough to start pushing for a bag now...
Don’t like Birkins or Kelly’s...no matter how beautifully made,
They are heavy...a pain to get into, not versatile...way over rated. I guess
playing the game of thrones is the thrill of it. I am a more mature
Lady and don’t like these dated and tired designs. I guess it is what it is,
But geez not worth the hassle, and I love luxury bags...more of a Chanel gal.
Even they are getting lunatic with their pricing. Keeping clients in the hunt is
The appeal I guess. I enjoy a great bag, but wow not worth it to me, this
Insult game Hermès plays. Try not to get burned 😀
yea i am enjoying chanel, no games and great service
Hi, im still in the Chanel wave,love the Kelli but hate how Hermes do business,,such an expensive item and we have to beg for one,,I dont like it but won’t say never cause maybe in the future I change my mind, for now Im going to stay with Chanel
Chanel is wonderful. But yes i dont like how they do business. I can understand building a relationship buy some product to prove loyalty but they do push a bit too much expecting so much of people. Unless they only want the super rich to buy their products? But i find its the super rich who dont even appreciate the fine details in the craftsmanship, the leather properties and their behaviour in designs and so forth. to the rich its just a status symbol to them.
Thanks love the advice, I really wish I can get one from the store but it look too hard 😩❤️
Sadly it's hard 😩 but some cities/countries easier than others.
You know this is a huge scam....right?
Your emails to the SA’s are far too long. You have 7 seconds to win over the attention of someone-that’s it.
Yea I agree I talked too much. Will cover this in my reaction video