(I have this in my description box as well but just wanted to pin this here too!) *UPDATE 1/6/24: In full disclosure, I filmed this video a couple of week ago and since then we've seen some interesting developments: 1. Hermes' new prices are now in effect for 2024, which means my prices here are now outdated (but on average, add about 10% and that'll get you in the new ballpark). 2. I didn't realize this has been SUCH a trending topic, and that talk of the "Hermes journey" has grown even more polarizing than before lol! So many videos have since popped up since I filmed this. There are those that are adamant about calling this (or NOT calling this) a "journey" - let me know what you think in the comments. I mention this because I do teach in my business classes a concept called "customer/user journey mapping" and so from the business side, there is justification and precedence for calling this a journey lol...
Yes for sure because the sites all show how the values have gone up and then when you try to consign your lowball and given half of what it’s worth and it’s becoming ridiculous because we know there’s a surplus of luxury right now. it’s absolutely an unfair tilted ridiculous game. I’m kinda still in love with a lot of luxury, but I’m also going back to my old favorites such as Tory Burch with Good colors and I know it works for my lifestyle.
I recently bought a Fendi Peekaboo and it 100% curbed any urge I had to buy a Kelly. It’s just as beautiful (in my opinion), cheaper, easier to obtain and far more user friendly. I have another on my wish list for this year. Sadly I still want a Birkin 30 at some point, but I don’t have the energy for that game just yet.
There are sooo many good deals on the Peekaboo preloved too! I've also noticed a drop in prices for the Birkin 30 preloved so that's always an option, unless its the in-store, fresh out of the box experience you're after!
As someone who was in that hamster wheel of a “journey” for years up until last year, the way you so beautifully and articulately described the mental break up to get out of the loop spoke to me. My home is not an Hermes museum, indeed. Thank you for this video and for showcasing things that make you happy from places like Muji that don’t cost thousands of dollars like Hermes ready to wear. I needed this video today ❤
NOT gonna try, NOT gonna play their games....If they don't want to sell to a person who has the cash and won't hire enough people to boost up availability, to hell with them. There are plenty of very attractive, & well made great leather handbags being sold by companies happy to get your business....These are the people I enjoy helping be productive and successful.
This is fabulous I’d never considered totaling up all of the items I’ve considered buying just to be offered a bag. My husband is thrilled I’ve come across your page. Thanks for going against the grain and speaking on the impracticality of some of these items. I will admit I’m really sad to hear about the passport not fitting with the extra pages.
I will buy the colour & hardware that I truly want not wait for an offer of a bag that may not be what I want! The extra money that I will be spending will get my exact wish bags! I will never play that spending “ Game” 👜👜👜💜💜
Our houses are not the museums but Hermes’ boutiques are the ones that that are more like museums….so many of their purses are on display only and not for sale. When I came in the store in Vancouver,Canada this week ( where the ratio for a quota bag is 4/5 to 1) many of the SA is standing around not greeting the many customers who wish for their help. I usually have a pre-spending budget when I come in and would only spend if some SA approach/greet me. ..and some do on some days.If they don’t ,like this week, I went to the Tiffany next door and got great treatment instead. B and K I am in no hurry to get them and am open minded to get it consigned in Tokyo.
Thanks for sharing your take on your new approach to H. I think it’s so easy to be pulled into the “game” and convince yourself that you need items you may never use. Interested to see how your approach evolves this year! Happy new year! Really enjoy your content!
I drove 2 hours today to the Hermes store I shop at (my appointment was scheduled 3 days ago 😂) and the SA I work with no-showed and gave me no notice. 2nd cancelled appointment in a row. This journey has been confusing to say the least! I did get 2 non quota bags in the past 4 months, so that was fabulous. I’m not sure what to do moving forward 🤪
@@abriefcaseofluxuryturns out my SA was sick! I do hope this is an outlier event. I’ve had really disappointing experiences at LV and Chanel, so I want to shop at stores I know I can get my things repaired (even at a cost).
I want a hermes cashmere winter coat and expand my dinner ware collection - its so gorgeous ! also you can consider their cutlery - because its stainless steel you can use it every day - I use it more often than my christofle
I paid 34k for a madame crocodile touch Kelly for my wife last month in black with gold hardware because I knew the prespend to get that bag was going to be significantly more than the amount we paid over, and the likelihood we would have been offered a touch bag is low. She wants a gold gold Kelly 25 which I will do the same on just to save myself some time, effort and honesty money. My biggest problem with the “prespend” is you don’t have an amount, you’re just guessing how much is enough. Preloved have the prespend built in, so I used to see them as being expensive till I truly understood prespend. We are doing the game for one more Birkin at a boutique and after that, I’m done with the boutique.
Ok, different brand, apparently I'm a Coach girl, but I never really cared for the shoes, apparel, jewelry, etc, just the purses, wallets, wristlets, and the exception is the keychains/charms. I was the same way when I built my Fiesta collection, I'd love to add another color but I'm going to stick with what I have so if I get anything now it will just be if I have to replace any current piece that gets broken. Like with anything else, you have to set your limits then try really hard to stick to them :)
Interesting. I really recommend Bliss Fosters latest vid on hermés. For us who care😃👍 Cut to the core. Hermés is so over the reseller hell. They change now just to let no master manipulators grab every bag they can so "normal" people never get some. I have the birkins in size an colors that suits me and few enough to get to actually use them. They are meant to be used ;newsflash! I will not ask for more bags because I have enough plus I want others to experience the total superior quality and design that goes into these bags. Yes. Thinking of others. I said it. Enough me me me. Ok rant over.
Oooh I don't know if I remember that one! My current favs are the Parfums de Marly Deline collection, and the Francis K A La Rose. My less expensive fav is Coach's Wild Rose! But I'm always up for recommendations so let me know if you have any others!
I had no idea this was a recent trending topic until after I filmed this but it makes sense...the luxury bubble was bound to burst sooner or later as their prices increase faster than inflation, our wage growth, cost of living, etc.
@abriefcaseofluxury Exactly! I understand they are a business and have to make a profit, but when companies are in the millions and billions and the employees are struggling there is a huge problem. Great video! Looking forward to more luxury/educational videos.
Fair points, but probably you already had both non and quota bags, i think when u had those bag, that is the end of the "journey" and it is a decision whether to stay on the " desire train" or board off. But for us who has not have the bags yet, it is still a journey we are involuntarily or secretly still aim for, no matter how crazy the price has been compare to lets say a decade ago. So yeah...i still want an H bag, even though i tried and bought other brands to curb the "thirst" :))
I thought that at first! But I've never gotten a store offered quota bag (my Birkin is preloved) and you would think that would be end of it! But like you said, secretly getting a quota bag fresh from the store is still something I think about haha!
Is this how brands behave in USA or it is worldwide? I live in Europe and never had impression that I have to reach a certain level to be offered a bag I want. I contact their sales representatives, who I consider personal buyers, I tell them my wishes and they usually come with more to offer than I was asking for. I do not own any jewelry from Hermes. It would never suit my style.
I think we’re all a bit bored with the Hermes obsession at this point. I’d like to see some investment portfolio hauls or house title hauls instead of women squandering thousands on bags.
Hermes birkin and Kellys are overrated. The quality isn’t as good as people think they are imo. The entire game is extremely toxic and those who game the system will always take priority over regular clients. The bags are also everywhere on social media and they’re not quite luxury anymore and really not that special anymore because so many people have them.
I completely agree. Hermes is getting tired and the bubble is going to burst. Chanel's bubble is already bursting and now it'll be Hermes. I'm looking at other brands like Joseph Duclos and Moynat, which have same or better quality at half the price with no hype or "game." They are the real luxury brands, not Hermes.
Happy for you to have realised that the Hermes game is not worth it. The game is a way to get ppl to spend more just to get the 'a' bag....B or K. There are many other brand bags with better craftmanship and better quality. If you do not carry a B or K does not mean you are not in the rich elite group. I see many ppl carry Hermes B or K nothing exclusive abt it cos you can always get it prelove.
(I have this in my description box as well but just wanted to pin this here too!) *UPDATE 1/6/24: In full disclosure, I filmed this video a couple of week ago and since then we've seen some interesting developments: 1. Hermes' new prices are now in effect for 2024, which means my prices here are now outdated (but on average, add about 10% and that'll get you in the new ballpark). 2. I didn't realize this has been SUCH a trending topic, and that talk of the "Hermes journey" has grown even more polarizing than before lol! So many videos have since popped up since I filmed this. There are those that are adamant about calling this (or NOT calling this) a "journey" - let me know what you think in the comments. I mention this because I do teach in my business classes a concept called "customer/user journey mapping" and so from the business side, there is justification and precedence for calling this a journey lol...
You're the 3rd youtuber I saw with this topic, I feel like more and more are getting tired of the game
Yes for sure because the sites all show how the values have gone up and then when you try to consign your lowball and given half of what it’s worth and it’s becoming ridiculous because we know there’s a surplus of luxury right now. it’s absolutely an unfair tilted ridiculous game. I’m kinda still in love with a lot of luxury, but I’m also going back to my old favorites such as Tory Burch with Good colors and I know it works for my lifestyle.
I recently bought a Fendi Peekaboo and it 100% curbed any urge I had to buy a Kelly. It’s just as beautiful (in my opinion), cheaper, easier to obtain and far more user friendly. I have another on my wish list for this year. Sadly I still want a Birkin 30 at some point, but I don’t have the energy for that game just yet.
There are sooo many good deals on the Peekaboo preloved too! I've also noticed a drop in prices for the Birkin 30 preloved so that's always an option, unless its the in-store, fresh out of the box experience you're after!
As someone who was in that hamster wheel of a “journey” for years up until last year, the way you so beautifully and articulately described the mental break up to get out of the loop spoke to me. My home is not an Hermes museum, indeed. Thank you for this video and for showcasing things that make you happy from places like Muji that don’t cost thousands of dollars like Hermes ready to wear. I needed this video today ❤
Aw that means a lot to me, thank you for watching!
NOT gonna try, NOT gonna play their games....If they don't want to sell to a person who has the cash and won't hire enough people to boost up availability, to hell with them. There are plenty of very attractive, & well made great leather handbags being sold by companies happy to get your business....These are the people I enjoy helping be productive and successful.
This is fabulous I’d never considered totaling up all of the items I’ve considered buying just to be offered a bag. My husband is thrilled I’ve come across your page. Thanks for going against the grain and speaking on the impracticality of some of these items. I will admit I’m really sad to hear about the passport not fitting with the extra pages.
Thanks for watching/commenting!!!
I will buy the colour & hardware that I truly want not wait for an offer of a bag that may not be what I want! The extra money that I will be spending will get my exact wish bags! I will never play that spending “ Game” 👜👜👜💜💜
When you mentioned "mindful consumption" I immediately hit subscribe. There's not that many luxury brand creators that have content about it!
Yay, thank you for subscribing and watching! 🥰
Our houses are not the museums but Hermes’ boutiques are the ones that that are more like museums….so many of their purses are on display only and not for sale. When I came in the store in Vancouver,Canada this week ( where the ratio for a quota bag is 4/5 to 1) many of the SA is standing around not greeting the many customers who wish for their help. I usually have a pre-spending budget when I come in and would only spend if some SA approach/greet me. ..and some do on some days.If they don’t ,like this week, I went to the Tiffany next door and got great treatment instead. B and K I am in no hurry to get them and am open minded to get it consigned in Tokyo.
That's so true, they're a "display only" retail store! 🤣
Thanks for sharing your take on your new approach to H. I think it’s so easy to be pulled into the “game” and convince yourself that you need items you may never use. Interested to see how your approach evolves this year! Happy new year! Really enjoy your content!
Aw thanks for commenting and watching!!!
I drove 2 hours today to the Hermes store I shop at (my appointment was scheduled 3 days ago 😂) and the SA I work with no-showed and gave me no notice. 2nd cancelled appointment in a row. This journey has been confusing to say the least! I did get 2 non quota bags in the past 4 months, so that was fabulous. I’m not sure what to do moving forward 🤪
Oh that's terrible! 😓 Here's to hoping your SA fees bad and wants to make it up to you haha!
@@abriefcaseofluxuryturns out my SA was sick! I do hope this is an outlier event. I’ve had really disappointing experiences at LV and Chanel, so I want to shop at stores I know I can get my things repaired (even at a cost).
Just bought a B25 preloved online. I refuse to even step foot in the boutique if they’re playing these games haha
Ooooh congrats - wear it and love it in good health!!!! That is definitely the route I am debating!
@@abriefcaseofluxury thank you. Good luck! Keep checking each day for the best deal.
I want a hermes cashmere winter coat and expand my dinner ware collection - its so gorgeous ! also you can consider their cutlery - because its stainless steel you can use it every day - I use it more often than my christofle
I paid 34k for a madame crocodile touch Kelly for my wife last month in black with gold hardware because I knew the prespend to get that bag was going to be significantly more than the amount we paid over, and the likelihood we would have been offered a touch bag is low. She wants a gold gold Kelly 25 which I will do the same on just to save myself some time, effort and honesty money. My biggest problem with the “prespend” is you don’t have an amount, you’re just guessing how much is enough. Preloved have the prespend built in, so I used to see them as being expensive till I truly understood prespend. We are doing the game for one more Birkin at a boutique and after that, I’m done with the boutique.
I agree, it's like a game, but you don't quite know all the rules, and the rules are always changing 😅
Ok, different brand, apparently I'm a Coach girl, but I never really cared for the shoes, apparel, jewelry, etc, just the purses, wallets, wristlets, and the exception is the keychains/charms. I was the same way when I built my Fiesta collection, I'd love to add another color but I'm going to stick with what I have so if I get anything now it will just be if I have to replace any current piece that gets broken. Like with anything else, you have to set your limits then try really hard to stick to them :)
I think that's such a great rule (to only buy replacements), if not, there's no stopping...
Interesting. I really recommend Bliss Fosters latest vid on hermés.
For us who care😃👍
Cut to the core.
Hermés is so over the reseller hell. They change now just to let no master manipulators grab every bag they can so "normal" people never get some.
I have the birkins in size an colors that suits me and few enough to get to actually use them. They are meant to be used ;newsflash!
I will not ask for more bags because I have enough plus I want others to experience the total superior quality and design that goes into these bags.
Yes. Thinking of others. I said it.
Enough me me me. Ok rant over.
Which rose scents do you like? I’m hoping Hermes will bring back Rose Amazone which is one of my favorite rose scents.
Oooh I don't know if I remember that one! My current favs are the Parfums de Marly Deline collection, and the Francis K A La Rose. My less expensive fav is Coach's Wild Rose! But I'm always up for recommendations so let me know if you have any others!
Love the cardigan! Love great wardrobe staples! That is a cost low cost per wear 😂❤
Thanks for watching and happy new year to you love!
I'm planning buying an *yutulucom* bag but can't decide between black and red both beautiful xx
Great analogy lol
I feel like you are one of many people UA-camrs doing this video. I was never Hermes person. If I want something, I buy it. This tier system is odd
I had no idea this was a recent trending topic until after I filmed this but it makes sense...the luxury bubble was bound to burst sooner or later as their prices increase faster than inflation, our wage growth, cost of living, etc.
@abriefcaseofluxury Exactly! I understand they are a business and have to make a profit, but when companies are in the millions and billions and the employees are struggling there is a huge problem. Great video! Looking forward to more luxury/educational videos.
Fair points, but probably you already had both non and quota bags, i think when u had those bag, that is the end of the "journey" and it is a decision whether to stay on the " desire train" or board off. But for us who has not have the bags yet, it is still a journey we are involuntarily or secretly still aim for, no matter how crazy the price has been compare to lets say a decade ago. So yeah...i still want an H bag, even though i tried and bought other brands to curb the "thirst" :))
I thought that at first! But I've never gotten a store offered quota bag (my Birkin is preloved) and you would think that would be end of it! But like you said, secretly getting a quota bag fresh from the store is still something I think about haha!
If an same bag as birkin woth price tag of $300, no many people would bother to buy it. Its all about status
Never say never~~
Is this how brands behave in USA or it is worldwide? I live in Europe and never had impression that I have to reach a certain level to be offered a bag I want. I contact their sales representatives, who I consider personal buyers, I tell them my wishes and they usually come with more to offer than I was asking for. I do not own any jewelry from Hermes. It would never suit my style.
Unfortunately, I think that's how it is in certain countries - in my experience, that's how it is in the US, and in certain Asian countries...
I think we’re all a bit bored with the Hermes obsession at this point. I’d like to see some investment portfolio hauls or house title hauls instead of women squandering thousands on bags.
Yes ma'am, same here! 😀 In addition to "luxury handbags", I've love to see what else people "invest" in!
That would be boring. I wouldn’t watch
I'd watch!!!!! YES!!!! 💰💰💰💷💶💴💵
Hermes birkin and Kellys are overrated. The quality isn’t as good as people think they are imo. The entire game is extremely toxic and those who game the system will always take priority over regular clients. The bags are also everywhere on social media and they’re not quite luxury anymore and really not that special anymore because so many people have them.
I completely agree. Hermes is getting tired and the bubble is going to burst. Chanel's bubble is already bursting and now it'll be Hermes. I'm looking at other brands like Joseph Duclos and Moynat, which have same or better quality at half the price with no hype or "game." They are the real luxury brands, not Hermes.
Happy for you to have realised that the Hermes game is not worth it. The game is a way to get ppl to spend more just to get the 'a' bag....B or K. There are many other brand bags with better craftmanship and better quality. If you do not carry a B or K does not mean you are not in the rich elite group. I see many ppl carry Hermes B or K nothing exclusive abt it cos you can always get it prelove.
His *yutulucom* tote is beautifully colored, very sturdy and the perfect size. Not too small, not too big. I look forward to joining my rotation.
NOT gonna play their MIND GAMES....TOO MANY CUTE AND BEAUTIFULLY WELL MADE BAGS THAT SHOULD BE CHARGING THEIR AMOUNT, BUT THEY ARE NOT!
First time viewer here. I found it annoying that I couldn't see your face. I want to look into peoples eyes.
It seems to me they're getting what they want, weeding out everyone but the ULTRA rich...idk...
100% agree...same goes for Chanel. It's the people who don't care about the price increase that are probably still deemed "worthy" customers lol.
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Boycott Hermes
A journey. How dumb. The only “journey “should be going to the boutique/store to buy the purse. Journey is for plebs.
Hermes is boring
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