The 390 Adventure We Have Been Asking For?
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- KTM 390 Adventure | It's been almost a year since we learned the much-anticipated KTM 490 Adventure was no longer being considered as a successor to the wildly successful 390 Adventure. With no significant updates to the bike since inception, and facing new competition from India and China, it seems form spy shots that KTM is finally going to produce a successor to the 390 Adventure. - Frank
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Yes, I think this is what a lot of people wants. Enough horsepower, good suspension, lightweight and a rally tower where you can put your navigation. It could be a good entry into the KTM world.
Hello, I agree, this bike if going to provide what the community wants. If the tires are tubeless, It will de nearly perfect for me! Thank you for watching and commenting! - Frank
A cheaper bike so you can more easily afford the breakdowns later
Yesterday, I chased the new test mule of the 2025 KTM 390 Adventure here in Chakan, Pune. For the average Indian guy's height, the bike feels tall. My 2022 KTM 390 Adventure felt puny, at least from the side. I couldn't spot tubeless tires with spokes, though. But from what little I could spy on the dash, Cruise Control seems to be inbuilt. Hopefully, they won't put it in the power parts paid upgrade.
I watched that a few days ago, it looks like a cool machine. They will sell well. I can’t wait to see you on one. 👍🏼
Hello Dave, while it will bring tears to my eyes to buy a bike with tunes tires, I will not be able to resist the bike! Unless I buy a Tuareg first! - Frank
@@OneOldManRidingI can’t believe they dropped they redesigned everything and no tubeless. Even if it was optional I would pay the difference. That’s why there is a V1050 in my garage and not a T700.
These changes are a welcome update to a machine I already enjoy immensely. I am in the camp that was hollering for the 21/18 spoked TUBELESS wheels (jury is still out on the tubes, I guess) but I am still pumped. And, I'm still glad I picked up my '22 390 last March as it's given me time to adjust from the '10 990 I'd been riding for the last decade to the much smaller, lighter and flickable 390, as well as the mechanical differences. I have to wonder if the styling is really going to change that much- or were they just trying to disguise the bike? But, I don't have a problem with it either- it's more typical offroad KTM-ish and reminds me of my old 990.
While I am not a hardcore offroader, I buy my ADV's first and foremost to perform best on dirt/gravel/sand and second on the road. I don't need to go 150mph or corner at 45° lean angles anymore, I want to enjoy the backcountry and get away from the noise and crowds, thank you very much. This bike also still allows me to do decent speed on the interstate when I have to, but that is only for an hour or three max, to get to the fun riding!
This is the unicorn ktm should have given years earlier. The design looks purpose built. Hope ktm launches the same prototype showing in the video. ❤❤❤
Hello, purpose built is a really good phrase. That's not how I would describe my 2020 390 Adventure. This one certainly looks like it's made with more specific goals I mind. - Frank
Just coincidence it has same capacity engine as the old one 😅
Nice review, … and I know that KTM 390 ADV riders really want this upgrade. But in the US KTM just reintroduced the 790 S (with down graded suspension), pulling the 890 S off the market, and based on their ads seemingly promoting the 790 S as the base level entry in their ADV line-up. Where an updated 390 ADV fits into their marketing plans, probably only KTM managers know. I hope we see a KTM press release on a significantly upgraded 390 ADV early next summer.
By the time these hit the market my 390 Adv will be worn out and ready to be replaced. This is now at the top of the list over Royal Enfield and CFMoto mid size bikes, years from now.....
Hello Tenere-Matt!, I agree the timing could work out quite well for 2020 390 Adventure owners. The Royal Enfield did not spark my interest; however, the CF Moto REALLY did. Then I read it's a mechanical throttle... ARGH. - Frank
So 1 more year... the Ibex 800t will be in the barn by then. Did enjoy your video though and will continue watching. Scott
Hello Scott, AN Ibex 800 sounds nice... I call the local CFMoto dealer now and then, but they have not been able to get one to look at. Thank you for watching and commenting! - Frank
You all can keep waiting for the "perfect bike". Meanwhile I'll keep putting miles on my DR650. See you riding!
Nobody can argue that the DR650 is not as close to perfect as a bike can be. Just need an aftermarket fuel tank and you can go anywhere! - Frank
Nice assessment! Thanks.
Hello Rob, thank you for watching and commenting! - Frank
I like the look of the front fairing. Looks like it adds some side panel to the nose. Hopefully that helps with the wind to the chest and head issue. Definitely a better angle on the windscreen too. Also, I really like what you said about the 21" front wheel. It's been asked for, so they are doing it. Personally, I don't want it. Reality is that I'm still doing 80-90% of my riding on tarmac. The 19" front and 17" rear deliver great comfort and fantastic handling. I'm glad I got in before the switch. I wouldn't want to give up the super fun road performance for better off road when the reality is that I just do way more riding on-road.
Hello Pigpen, I have owned the 390, and the VStrom with a 19" front wheel, and a a 90 Adventure R with a 21". I will forever argue that the 19" wheel makes more sense than a 21". The 390 is a gem a of a bike. I am hoping what we are seeing is an R version, and there is still a standard for folks to choose. Thank you for watching and commenting! - Frank
I think you’re more interested in a “scrambler” rather than an Adventure bike.
I am liking everything.. except the under belly exhaust! Come on KTM!
That exhaust looks like a pipe they grabbed on ebay! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Great video
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Direct competitor (in Europe) to new Royal Enfield Himalayan 452, Honda crf 300L rally and now even Kove 450. So i hope price will be down to earth. To me is strange new coffin headlight design. I bet that aftermrket parts will help upgrade these bike to another level.
Happy with my stock 2022 KTM 390 adventure.
Hello Jon, I am as well. Everyone but ADV Matt seems to be as he bought a Tenere! Thank you for watching and commenting! - Frank
@@OneOldManRidingLOL, I seen that. Being an old man myself the KTM has put the fun back into riding for me again. Being 61 years old my R1150GSA became a bit much to handle. I really enjoy your channel Frank.
FRANK !!! - Good looking bike IMO 🙂
Hello Obi-Wan! Thanks for commenting buddy! - Frank
OBI!!
I disagree with your final remark: "in a way that no one else is doing".
Both royal enfield and cfmoto have come up with serious competition to this bike
Hello 5Aerim, fair point about RE. This is CFmotos first foray into the small market. So no previous owners to be listening to. 😉 The RE does not excite me, the weight to power is... Less than ideal. CMoto looks to be knocking it out of the park on their first try. While it's heavy as their bikes tend to be, it looks very well done. Our local CFwdealer does not even have an Ibex yet, I expect the new bike will take a long time to make it to my area. - Frank
I'd be waiting to see what the Kove 800X is like. Claimed 95Hp and 185 kg kerb weight. The current 390 weighs 158 g dry so add on the liquids plus weight for the usual bazooka muffler and you are looking at around 170kg.
Hello MrEntnorb, If the Kove 800X comes in at that weight, its going to be a gamechanger for sure. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
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@@pepperthepep yes it is a big if. But they are doing things that Japan refuses to do. I predict that CFMoto will take the lead in adv bikes in a short while.
Great review, totally agree that people want that smaller 690 enduro R. But you’re missing the main thing where this bike falls short: weight. This new 390 is likely going to be around 360lbs wet which is about the same as the 690. People wanted the smaller lighter 690 that would ultimately replace a drz400 but they arent going to get it here. This bike is just as big and just as heavy as a 690. That being said, fingers crossed ktm has a 390 enduro R in the works.
Unless I’m missing something, the 390 adventure comes in wet at 177kg, which this bike is based on, and the 690 is 150kg… unless you’re short of stature, there’s no need to look at this new bike. At all.
@@martyn_g yup, which is why this 390 is a pretty big disappointment imo. There was a rumor about a 390 enduro, which should def weigh less than the 690 enduro.
Hello Welt, I agree folks want a smaller and lighter, but I do not think that's possible. The cost to engineer it's just not what Bajaj is doing these days. I bet this crosses the 400# mark... Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
I am one of those that struggles with the 690 height! I think the days of KTM, or Bajaj spending the time and money to develop both a powerful, and lite bike, are over. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
CF Moto and Royal Enfield have some interesting offerings coming up, but they won't be as light. They'll probably be more reliable though lol
hopefully its the replacement for the wr250r we been looking for
Hello Glenn, I do not think there will ever be a worthy successor fmto the WR250R. It was a product of its time.
No company has ever commited to producing such a well rounded dualsport.
I believe the market is now low end, or high end. Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Ktm..can you pls do a supermoto quickly?
Seems like a no brainer right? Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
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The morning I woke up to go pick up my new 2023 390 Adventure I saw the spy shots of the new 390. I was not happy. So went to my KTM to go ahead with it anyway and he tells me it’s still in prototype phase and may not see it in supply till 2026. It will also be made in India. So I guess I’ll keep mine and maybe upgrade in few years, by then others like the CFMOTO 450MT will be in big supply 😊
Hello Roy, personally, I would not wait. The 390 released in India well before the rest of the world. It may end up being 2025 in India, and 2026 elsewhere.
And I remeber having an early 390 Adventure. There were few aftermarket items, and they all had a huge wait, and premium for them! - Frank
@@OneOldManRidingHopefully they would be able to make some tweaks to the engine between now and then, and maybe make it a little more off road oriented then the Duke
Thanks for posting 😂
Good to know. Did the dealer say that recently or was it when the previous spy shots came out a year ago?
Is it really going to be that long a wait given that RE has launched a very compelling option in the form of the Himalayan 450? The segment is heating up
@@OneOldManRiding I guess it all depends on where you live in the world. In Australia we have had bikes before the USA, but this one could be different. Anyway time will tell :)
Would have been better if they handed off manufacturing to cfmoto vs bajaj
The new 399cc motor is already having issues with seizing up .
Hello Dave, the 390 models have been from Bajaj since I think 2018/2019. The 390 engine is a KTM design, in production since 2013. Pretty well tested by now. What issues has the 399 model had in the Duke? Sad if Bajaj broke it! 😭 - Frank
@@OneOldManRiding I have seen UA-cam videos from India and read threads about new 390 Duke owners having their motors completely seize up.
@@OneOldManRiding If you search for it you will find more than a few videos with this issue. I would steer clear of this one at least until they workout the problems 😕
They need to add 600 more cc's 😁
Hello Greg, you need to ride a 790 / 890. You will enjoy those extra ccs! Hopefully you can ride mine before I sell it. - Frank
BG!!
Wonder how tall the seat height be. Looks tall
Hello, I am more than a little concerned about the height! 😁 - Frank
Ktm nunca debio abandonar el proyecto 490,esta cayendo en las mismas trampas de japon de no innovar y solo dedicarse a cambios cosmeticos de looks y plasticos.Pero CF moto leyó correctamente la situacion y lanza la 450 MT,la cual pienso destronará todos estos modelos que solo estan dando vueltas por años en lo mismo.Creo que China pienza en lo que quiere la gente y el resto solo en sus numeros.Saludos¡
I'm waiting KTM new lunch 2025 390 adventure Enduro
Honda CRF 300l is very expensive 2100000 to 2300000 l nepali currency
Ktm is late to it's own party. Kove already stoled the show.
Nah. Why would u get a kove 450 over this? Do u like to check valves and change oil?
@@Weltbummler23 Do you want to use it for racing?
@@ERUtheWINDRIDER nope just adv rides. Check your kove manual. 1200km valve checks and oil change for normal riding. 600km for racing and harsh conditions. These are not adv or dual sport intervals.
@@Weltbummler23 I have the data from Kove, and there are 2000 km not 1200 and this is for RallyRaid. If you ever had any 450 [exc or alike] you should know that the service is meant for racing, but if you use it for light duty one may prolongue service intervals by quite a margin
@@ERUtheWINDRIDER right been a while since i looked, swapped km with miles in my head. Regarldess 1200mile/2000km intervals are very short for an adv bike and more consistent with a bike built for dakar rallies. 2000km is listed for their standard 450rally, not just rallyraid. Clear advantage to ktm and all modern dual sports (crf300l, dr650, etc). If u have official documentation or link showing that the standard 450 rally has longer intervals than that, would like to see it.
Nice video, but you should stop smoking.
Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
Moped 🤮
Hey now, I rode a moped as a kid, it was AWESOME! Thank you for stopping by and commenting! - Frank
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I'm waiting KTM new lunch 2025 390 adventure Enduro
Honda CRF 300l is very expensive 2100000 to 2300000 l nepali currency