WHAT was the 'LIV GOLF' tournament REALLY like...
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2022
- I went down to the centurion golf club to see first hand what the liv golf tournament was really like as a spectator!
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The shotgun start I liked
Over in a couple hours not like normal tournaments that seems to last years
The monopoly that the pga have in cahoots with major broadcasting networks is a key reason why liv golf is good competion for them. To make it free watch will be a major factor. The prize money on offer is miles more lucrative for golfers. The media that just ho into the press conferences that don't care about the golf been played but rather the people behind the organisation just shows that they are scared that they will start losing revenues
Good on you Simon for giving it an honest chance! GolfWRX is in partnership with the PGA, so the pro LIV posts there are censored and biased.
Great event,great product .LIV is the T20 of golf. It will never replace DP or PGA . TV coverage is amazing ,fast and exciting this is miles ahead of regular golf on TV.
I think LIVgolf has raised the topic of 'sportswashing' once again and all it has proven is that everyone has a price. Whether its the group of players who have signed up to this, or AJ and Usik signing up to fight in Saudi for £50M.
Sportwashing is a term the media have created in order to create a narrative. How many innocent Afghans get killed by US drones every year? Thanks to wikileaks we know as the media wont mention it. Surely worse overall
If they care about what the US thinks about them, why aren’t they buying NFL teams?
@@igolffff they are more likely to do a world NFL league- Teams in countries where nfl is popular and American cities without teams. You can’t really take the cowboys out of Dallas etc
PGA working with China don't for get.
I Love the format .team event ,Shot gun start ,match play and tv coverage was superb.Forget the politics it,s great for golf and many New and younger viewers
Some of the guests said they loved the complimentary bone saws. 😉🦴💀🪚
I watched an hour or so on Saturday between work, I got a bit confused with the team game and it was really fast going from player to player and shot to shot, but I did really enjoy what I saw.
Teams have zero competitive factor like match play. Huge letdown.
Great coverage, no bullshit American commentary, and no ads
Sorry no Trickshot in this one! No one would lend me a club 😂
Since when has a club limited you my mate 😏
We aren’t angry. Just disappointed.
I think it's bloody marvelous, really enjoyed it
I was there on the Saturday and to be honest it was fine. No massive crowds all the time around the course so you could easily get a good view of everyone at some point. Shotgun start meant you could float around the course without worrying about missing anyone. Still got seats in a couple of the pop up stands as people would come and go frequently rather than camp out all day.
All in all a very nice day out.
Only issue was water, someone mentioned in another comment about no water taps and towards the latter part of the golf everywhere had run out of water and soft drinks
After watching on you tube I'm inclined to go next year. I enjoyed it and it looked friendly and sociable.
1 of my fav things about golf is it's class and the fact it is a gentlemen's game , LIV has taken the part of the game and removed it Completely.
I do think LIV has a big Avenue with doing so and I think it becoming more in tune with UA-camrs and playing with them and allowing them in on the plans is where their gonna be more successful.
Why do you think it's taken the gentleman's game out of the game? Just interested.
@@Tiz147 cause hes a puppet
What strange comments....LIV has no class...really...totally disagree
You summed it up nicely at the end there and I think the regular tours would do well to take the same view.
the queue for the bar at the far end of the course was ridiculous. That's the part of the course you see at about the 4-5 minute mark which is the furthest place from the entrance. Yes, it was very hard to get around the course. There was no water tap anywhere which we were made to believe there would be
That said the stands were good, we had a good spot on the 18th for a while and there were some places where you could get a good view. The stuff in the fan zone was good too. A good event considering it was their first. Maybe a different venue next year as the experience at the Belfry was better especially in terms of amenities, just less famous players.
Well done ol'boy 👏
Thank you
I was there on the Thursday, loved it.
Great report Simon 👍
Hi Simon, I saw you there on Friday, I hope you & your Dad had a good day 👍
I watched some of it, really enjoyed it! Feels like a BDO and PDC darts moment in golf. Being young in the late 80s I could see all my golf stars regularly in the UK... The n more tournaments in Europe to 'grow the game' then the best moved to the PGA tour which 'grew the game'. How nice would it be if the winner won 2 million instead of 4 and LIV bought one of the many municipal courses here the council keep closing and ran it subsidised, then did something similar in every country they went to? As for the source of the money? We're quite keen for the same country to turn the taps on the oil wider so the fuel price comes down...we're not quite so vocal on the countries where the lithium gets mined for our batteries, diamonds for our rings....I could go on!
Wow so cool
Loved It!!!!! I'm done with the PGA...
Not for me…..the Canadian open showed why the pga tour is the place to be. Rose just short of a 59. Two legends of the game battling it out over the final round. The sportsmanship and respect they showed each other shows what golf is about for these players. Motivated by titles nothing else. Shout out to the first female winner on the dp tour as well. Loving your varied videos at the moment Simon.
They're being very clever to stream it for free...There must be a massive percentage of golf fans who don't have sky sports. Me included. I totally agree with your opinion of watching live golf. I've been to the Wales open a few times and the skill on show is breath taking all day.
PGAT maimed the other tours so they would become feeder tours...disgraceful...and we all know PGAT only play in the US....they are anti-global golf..long live LIV
Did you say we don't get ads here when we watch sky sports? There's an ad break every 10 minutes!
I didn't even know you could watch it anywhere until Sunday when a mate told me it was streamed on youtube and FB. Considering I follow golf I'm surprised that info hadn't managed to reach me. I wasn't actively searching for it more than checking if any of the TV channels had bought the rights for it. Apart from that I just think it would have been a hell of a lot more productive if they had poured that money into the DP world tour instead and created a proper challenger to the PGA tour. Now that would have put the cat among the pigeons for real.
I think you’ll find there was a lot of younger people there because ticket sales were so bad they gave away most of the tickets for free.
Shotgun starts are not going to last long. Courses are designed to be played in order so that holes provide jeopardy and relief at certain points of a round usually ending in a crescendo towards the 17 and 18 holes. Is anyone really interested in a tournament that ends on the 9th at the old course?
Another pro PGAT post that makes no sense
Hi Simon, no trick shot? Surely the crazy golf had trick shot written all over it. I watched the Friday and Saturday coverage and I thought it was well organised but I found the shot gun start and the "totem pole" scoring graphics a little differcult to follow. The standard start and scoring add some suspense to the finale day I think when watching at home. Thanks for the content as always bud.
Sport competition is built on going through a tough journey to get to the top. This isn’t the top, it’s just easy money. I can’t see myself getting excited over watching someone win one of these tournaments. As a matter of fact it pisses me off that the sport has sunk so low. It used to intrigue me on how difficult this sport is to get to the top. That is what sport is about, after all.
So you think its easy to be offered a place in LIV? Also there is a relegation system if you don't perform...i.e lose your LIV card....do your research
In 1990 BT [Before Tiger] most PGA events were thinly crowded. In fact, in the 1970's-80's, you not only walked along with your fav pros, you had no restrictions of any importance. Even the snacks and drinks were modestly priced. The only exception I experienced was when Arnie's Army was on the march, surrounding holes, lining fairways, grinning with delight that implied that the fan gained some psychic power just by seeing the King. There were no, or few, ropes to stay behind. I do not think there were any hospitality tents, or a few. The driving range was nearly abandoned by fans, while the putting greens had a regular crowd of beer and cocktail kibitzers muttering how this or that stroke was in need of their advice. Casual, that's what I would say. Relaxed. Plus, this was before the big money, so the pros looked very tough, knowing that they had to at least make expenses and pay off side bets. You saw 'home-made' swings (all swings are home-made, in the end) and the golf commentators were absent, thank the Lord. No Trackman [Trackmen?], no ProV1, metal spikes (still some on tour), a real grind. You have no idea what a marathon 4 days of golf is when your purposes nearly excludes the notion of having fun. Thank heavens for alcohol. One other point: the LPGA events were so poorly attended that people walked along with the ladies, especially when they were shapely. And like today, they could play so well it was shocking to a newbie like myself.
Actually, it pleased me that you did this piece, because I realize how much the fan is reduced too an ass and a lout yelling "GITINDUHHOLE!!" The crowds at majors are massive and move like frightened hoards of reindeer, the costs of tickets are foul, the celebrity spectators are not just one of us golfers, but are sequestered in tents and surrounded by bum-kissing hustlers, not subtle in their kissing. Parking is a nightmare, and stepping outside the ropes can earn an impolite rebuke from a tired 'volunteer' who attends free but pays for his shirt, slacks, and cap.I know. When I was an Olympic Club member, I volunteered and voila! I got the best assignment: the backup Parking Lot, one quarter mile from the Lake Course. All day. No 'Quiet Please' paddle for me! Just pretentious automobiles and enthusiastic spectators - enthusiastic the first, maybe the second day.
Apologies in advance for rambling on. I don't think LIV [54 in Roman Numerals] intended to make their tournaments as spectator friendly as they did, although they did include many playful circus-y (my word) things for the fan. But, as you said, you can watch the invisible players (only ranked 120, 75, 55, etc. in the world) show you golf you may never have imagined such a 'lowly' player to play! In fact, with the payouts, even these men who usually have to count their pennies are in a pleasant enough mood and won't have you thrown out if you get too familiar or even cause the player distraction. What the hell! It's 'only a game,' unless you have to earn you living from it.
The PGAT has systematically maimed the other world tours, with the strategy that top quality pro events only happen in the US.....all other tours are just feeder tours....and that is why fans support LIV...
LIV is coming to a course about 25 minutes from me and my buddy asked if I wanted to go with him and I said no thanks. Honestly it just didn’t sit well with me knowing I was indirectly putting money back into the Saudi Investment Fund 🤷🏻♂️ At least you had a day to hang with your dad though Simon!
Have you had a look at the portfolio of the PIF. You cannot avoid it
Seriously...have you ever heard of the CIA? hYPOCRITE
I enjoyed it and I'm looking forward to see where it goes.. appears that the opinions are split but I think it's a good set up. Something different
Be interesting to see if it continues free on UA-cam for a few years or if they sell the rights to a network for big money. That would bring in adverts as the network try to get their money back. Most peoples positive was the amount of golf shown and no adverts
Major advertisers won’t touch LIV with a 100 ft pole. Too controversial.
Loved it. Only watched on UA-cam but the concept is bang on. Both the P.G.A and the R&A need to think this one out very carefully or they could well be the losers. Bath Man is correct it is a exhibition and there's nothing wrong with that. Take another "sport" darts it has been transformed by a commercial entrepreneur into virtually a world wide event filling the largest arenas in the world it was even held at Madison Square Garden last week. The top end of golf has changed and the players are now as much entertainers as sportsmen (not the same for women yet but that's another thing) On the commercial side there is a untold number of people around the world who can access this event for free, embrace the events and promote the sport to new players and viewers.
US tour agents think calling it an exhibition means something....the winner gets $4 million...real money...and every event is a top field...unlike the pgat
I think its great for the game of golf. It brought in a new, younger, less fusty audience which is what the game is crying out for.
The vibe was fun, and with Bryson now signed up, the PGA Tour will be worried. They should have been more accepting of this tour as it is basically an exhibition invitational series, and can co-exist with the other tours without any problem.
More players will jump ship, and as for the outrage about Saudi money, sport and business is already normalised between the West and Saudi, so selective outrage about golf shows itself to be what it really is - a fearful PGA Tour losing many of its top stars.
Long may it LIV!
It’s nothing but more Cult of Greed bullshit. Saudi Arabia is responsible for 9-11.
You have hit the nail on the head mate. Very well put or is that putt ;)
LIV has a different target market to the old man's US tour...It also has events outside the US..unlike the PGAT....The teams format is great....
All the British UA-camrs who went to the live LIV event seemed to like it. However, despite UA-cam saying it's streaming in 1080p, the stream looked more like 720 or 900p. The "leaderboard" sidebar was very distracting and my eyes didn't know what to focus on.
Thought Liv made lady's mountain bikes...
Coverage was great on utube easy to follow and more fun I play of 10 so I love the format does any remember shells wonderful world of golf players playing extra cash!!!!!!
yes i remember shells. it would be nice to see more match play an skins events too. i thought the coverage was good an liked the commentators better than they were more like the euro tours.
I'm with 9/11 families on this one.
I think it was great! I enjoyed the free streaming and all the action being compressed with the shotgun start. I think more people will watch since it isn't literally an all day thing.
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Thought it was a breath of fresh air to be honest.
Watched it via UA-cam, and apart from the awful commentators, the coverage was good. It was hard sometimes to keep up as there was so much going on. I like the team concept although it will take some getting used to with a who’s who on the teams and the awful names!
All in all, a good thing. People need to get over the money source. Football, F1 and boxing have done big business in Saudi and China for years, why are we so hypocritical about golfers?
Was very very lucky and fortunate to be invited to play Centurian Club a couple of months ago. They were setting up widths of fairways and greens. Of course a challenging course but once in a lifetime. Awesome video !
That’s awesome mate, love to play there, doubt I would of broken 85 with how hard they had it set up though 😬
@@SASGolf I’m an 18 Handicap and scored 102 which for me was amazing. Considering the course. Played well. Amazing experience.
Liked the new approach. Enjoyed the 3 days
So, how do you join the LIV Tour? Is there Monday Qualifying? Is there a junior league, where you can win and then promote yourself? Oh, you can win in the Majors and The PGA Tour or European Tour first? That seems to be the way. But those tours actually make money and make a profit, and allegedly give to charities. LIV just puts out ridiculous amounts of money without ever hoping to recoup that. Why? Nothing is completely free. The price for this LIV tour is not really known yet IMO, and some unexpected events may come from this.
Coverage, what coverage? I watched your video and still don't know who won the tournament.
Great idea, more compact format free streaming and fast paced loved it i couldnt fall asleep watching it as i usually do on pga.😂
LIV needs a lot of improvement in its marketing efforts,,,very expensive merchandise is really dumb...but its great and different
30 seconds into the video and I'm loving it. This liv is exciting for golf in my opinion.
Really interesting to see the great relaxed atmosphere, more like a pro-am day. Lots to be learned from LIV golf, not least golf’s toxic relationship with money and lack of concern over where it is coming from, for punters though it looks a good experience
So what happens to the players who can now never return to the European or PGA tours when "bigger name" players join the 54 ?
Good point. I believe the European tour hasn’t banned players yet though.
Like a hit and giggle for a lot of money.
Where was the bomb making workshop? Or the plane hijacking workshop? Or the wife stoning workshop?
I think it'll be good for the golfer's bank accounts...but I don't think it will be good for the game. There will always be a dark cloud over it.
Only from dickheads who push false propaganda...disinformation...
Golf is golf. Yes, it helps their bank accounts. And it also helps the top 20 on PGA with the PIP money now. The black cloud narrative is pushed because it could be a threat to the PGA.
No one has a problem with the hundreds of American companies that do business with them, or allowing them to invest in their companies. PGA doesn't say boycott 3M or BMW or FedEx for working with Saudi Arabia.
Nice report. I bet your dad enjoyed the day.
Yeah we always have a good day together when we get the time!
It’s 54 series golf Roman numerals. Saying Liv golf sounds lame!
Because of the music... count me out.
LivGolf won't invest anything into the game for juniors and amateur. Just paying huge sums to pros who are at the end of their careers or in a slump in form. Like Graeme McDowell getting a half million to finish in top 10. It's just a pay day for them. At least the PGA tour has players at the top of their form and some finished last night in the Canadian Open.
I did think this, as why it has to be adjacent to the other tours. as it’s stock of players can only come from well played tour pros on the other tours, otherwise there’s no seeding.
Why should they pay anything towards juniors when they can just cherry pick all above average pros from other tours based on payouts. LIV is gonna blow up, if they were a stock I’d be all in
@@zekebones34 You've not thought that through Zeke.
rory finally won because so many didn't show up.
Great video. The Liv tour came across well on UA-cam. The pga/sky/media in general are hoping it fails but it will succeed if the fans take to it. So much negativity but let’s face it golfs a money game without Liv
Seems to be a lot of immediate negativity from media. Not much in the way of neutral "news" from the traditional outlets.
Normal people and fans seem to have a more open view to change. I enjoyed the coverage.
@@stuboy13 the PGA and the same media outlets didn’t have a problem with the tiger v Phil money match
I took my son for the Saturday he really enjoyed himself what is first ever time at golf event got to see lots of people really enjoyed the fan zone in the end of the day in my opinion if you get a chance to see Golf with the kids that’s the most important thing doesn’t matter what the Tour is, it’s golf
I dont really know anyone that cares much about who wins what outside of the majors and the ryder cup. I can't see many people ever really caring about LIV as long as the majors are not part of it (which i dont see happening).
BUT, if LIV really want to take over then they should.do two things, firstly make the format mixed with a simultaneous mens and womens tournatment happeing with equal prize money and a mixed team format. That will make it genuinelly different to the other tours, and basically mean the lpga ceases to be the place where women play as the prize money is so poor. Secondly offer the tv coverage up for free to anyone that wants to show it. That will mean every channel with aspirations to show sport will show it. Sky sports charging for the pga will suddenly look like an expensive option.
@Tony no it isnt a business. The saudi government make over one billion pounds a day from oil. They are spending pocket change on a small golf tour. The money is utterly irrelevant and they are not attempting to make a profit. It is PR (which i am not saying it good or bad) and so it makes no difference at all what they pay. Besides, the prize money on offer is tiny compared to what some players get in advance. So it is many things, but it is absolutely not a business.
@Tony didn't you see the DPWorld event at the weekend?
I don't know if you knew this, but PR firms are businesses... Shocker.
Just because they aren't selling a product doesn't mean there isn't a dollar per eyeball factor.
Well it is happening,,,of course
Only the masters cares about phones. You can video as much as you want at other tournaments
Exactly, I'm 50 and back in the 80s 90s you could see the top players in the world at UK events, but then tiger came on the scene and the PGA became the go to tour, because of prize money available, most European players of any quality either go straight there or when their playing credentials allow them jump over to America straight away. So to then come out saying its not about money is hogwash, this is why the pga is so frightened about what the outcome of this will be, they destroyed the european tour, making it a feeder circuit, or a 2nd tier tour, not a complementary tour you could play between like back in the day.
PGAT strategy to kill other global tours and only have top pros playing in the US....its a middle finger to the rest of the golfing world
Glad to hear your comments about the LIV golf tournament. I think it is something new and I look forward to attending the 2nd event, about 15 minutes from my home town. Somewhat disappointed in the comments, by some of the pga pros, the pga tour, and the golf commentators in the U.S..
I think the inherent lack of prestige/legacy stakes makes me (and many others) less interested and that's going to be an issue for LIV. I am, however, kind of rooting for it because I think the criticism for the players has been unwarranted.
As for the detractors... We've seen statements from PGA officials, players, fans, etc. that seem rather critical of the players choosing LIV over the PGA Tour, unhappy that a desire for money is driving the shift. I think that point has been adequately addressed as an equal number of people seems to agree that money is a reasonable decision point to accept a new job for.
What I don't think has been stated enough is how utterly ridiculous the posturing for moral high ground by those in/aligned with the PGA has been. There's been a lot of criticism towards these players for chasing the money, meanwhile what is the PGA's entire issue with LIV/reason for suspending players who play in LIV events? Money. And I don't blame the PGA for that - but then allow players to make their decision and be done with it. No need for the grandstanding or pretending that the PGA's chief concern is anything but profit. To me, this appears to be two parties acting in their best interest, but for some reason only one of those parties is being scrutinized for their interest in the money.
Agreed! Well said.
Great product but sportswashing at its peak. Don’t forget the origins of the money, and why there is no sponsors 😂
The golf was fine, and had an exciting finish.
The problem for me with the coverage was the amount of times the prize fund was mentioned, and in general how much self advertising there was from the commentators. I appreciate they’re trying to sell the format to the public, but it was just a bit much, a bit cringy at times. Talking of cringy, the team names were atrocious. I haven’t spoken to anyone who liked them.
I’m not sure how it will go from here, if the PGA and DP World Tour need to be overly worried. Apart from Bryson, will any of the top ranked players join?
Regardless, I’ll be watching as it’s a full tournament that I don’t have to pay stupid money to sky sports to be able to watch. ⛳️
Do you reckon that you'll be banned from watching the BMW because you went to watch LIV golf????? 🤣
I wished I was there to witness the 1st LivGolf tournament, but I'm on the wrong side of the world unfortunately. Its a pity the PGA Tour took the stand the way it has, but for me it needn't be that way - they should hv embraced the competition n not ban the golf pros. There's a lot hypocrisy going on on the American side, some dating back to linking LivGolf to the 9/11 tragedy - I can't fathom that. For God's sake, Trump even visited KSA at one point. Politics hv no place in golf - global golfers and viewers will eventually decide whether LivGolf will be a success or otherwise, no matter how much money is involved. And I hope all the pro golfers will hv the freedom to choose where they want to play, as long as they honour their commitments to the Tours that they are members. Can't wait for LivGolf to hold their tournaments in SEA soon. 😍
I don’t know. People say, “forget politics.” Imagine Putin/Russia being the guy behind LIV golf and dropping millions on players to join. Imagine golf clubs agreeing to host one of their tournaments, and imagine yourself attending. Would you go?
Too extreme an example? Well, imagine they started the tour 10 years ago, when they were only jailing and poisoning the opposition. That’s about where we are now with LIV/SA today. Sure, it’s fun, it’s fresh, and it could change the face of golf in a good way. And you may come love that quirky ruling regime with politically-motivated-homicidal tendencies. That’s what normalizing is.
Imagine not knowing who the CIA is and what they get up to...hypocrite
I only see this as golf evolving for the better as other sports have done & this can only benefit all once it gets established
it's not gonna stick around long term. the saudis have tons of money to pour into this distraction, but they can't justify doing it forever, especially if it continues to struggle to capture the hearts and minds of golf fans
Not a fan what people will do for money enjoyed Rory on the TV
Great report! This was always marketed as an innovative and exciting comp, aside from a shot gun start, 54 holes and a ton of cash i didn't really feel it. I watched some on YT and have to say the commentary was annoying, over hyping everything. The highlights were bad, only showed putts. Then there is the (blood) money, paying hundreds of millions of dollars for these show ponies to join the event is disgusting in my opinion, not only because of the Saudi association but in the current economic climate it's in poor taste.
Perhaps am being too critical, I was hoping for more - something more fun, tournament style golf coupled with (hero golf style) challenges would be way more interesting and innovative, and would likely encourage people to watch. I think most are only interested because of the vast sums of money being thrown around - we'll see how the other tournaments pan out.
On the plus side, seemed it was more accessible than your typical tournament - i think i saw tickets on sale for £60 which is pretty good. I quite like the idea of a shotgun start and it's great you guys are able to film your content.
Initially I thought LIV was going to fall on its arse, but as it got closer and the media tried to pooh pooh it with constant references to human rights and money, my opinion changed. The US has killed, corrupted, destabilised and tortured more people and countries than any other - so I started routing for the underdog and I'm glad it has received positive praise during and after the first event. I feel the USGA has acted like a bully boy and hats off to those who left it. I hope are own PGA dont take the same stance. It's a bit pathetic really.
It’s funny criticising players for chasing the money, why do you think Europeans joins the PGA? Look at their typical prize funds V world DP events. It’s always been the same and the rub back in the 70/80/90’s was the number of events pro’s expected to play to keep their tour card for each tour.
I just think LIV have missed an opportunity to add money into European tour, ladies and development tour events.
I watched it on youtube and the commentary team were appalling. They were paid a lot of money to big up Liv golf and some of their comments were farcical ie these are the best players in the world when they quite clearly were not.
I have no problem with people chasing the cash but there was some very mediocre golf played that got hugely rewarded.
yeah talking like it'st he best in the world when you have rory and the rest battling it out in canada and justin rose having that crazy day on sunday
The money the players get is irrelevant as a fan. You could give them all $1bn, who cares. The "sport" is what people want to see...
I watched a little bit here in the states. I wasn't impressed with what I was watching. The leader board on the side of the screen was driving me nuts. I felt like I kept trying to watch that and I would miss something and have to rewind a bit. I've been to 2 US Opens and it definitely is challenging to get close to players, but I also found out some of them don't really want to talk to you anyway. Jordan Speith wasn't very friendly during practice rounds at Oakmont in 2016. Personally I think it's just a cash grab and that's it. I think the golf will suffer over time as in what's the incentive? No cut, guaranteed check. I think with the tournaments spaced out it's going to be a long time between competitive rounds too
@Tony well they sure put on a good show when the cameras are rolling, and I was trying to put it politely. Personally I think he's an a hole
Love the idea of breaking the pga monopoly and seeing more top golf in the Uk. Just not comfortable giving any support to the Saudi royal family who recently murdered a journalist
That’s not to say you shouldn’t have taken your dad for a great day out. ❤️
I watched it on UA-cam and could not finish it. It was really boring, not sure why though. I prefer to watch the European Tour over the PGA and this event seems to have everything I dislike about the PGA. It's just too fake.
This tour is a distraction by the Saudis to try to get people to look away from the things they're doing. The format was interesting, but nothing new/unseen. Overall, without the best out there, it's just not very interesting to me. this "tour" isn't sustainable and i'm curious if the younger guys are hurting their careers by going here. the older guys can just retire so it makes sense they'd sell out like this
Bit disappointed in Rory’s comments about these guys just doing it for the money - why is he not supporting the European Tour? Would that be to do with all the money he can make on the PGA tour? Overall think this is a good format where the day is done quickly (ish) and everyone gets the same weather so no luck of the draw.
99% of these guys would never win on the PGA tour again. Grabbing the dirty money when they can.
Why TELL LIES? All of them are tour winners....a LIV player won the last major....
@@pauljcross2289 you do know that 99% isn't everyone right.. Good reply to a 9 month old comment too ya nugget.
UA-cam stream sucked and was really amateur like.
Seems a shame to "weaken the field" on pga tour... BUT I think the usual coverage for a UK fan is awful with poor highlights packages on UA-cam and poor access on UK TV for a 4 day event on any pga tour event. So it's a refreshing change. I thought with a few tweaks the Formula 1 style coverage was great, but a little hard to read the side bar leader board quickly. For event one it seemed great! Will improve a lot.
I understand the "human rights issues" and all the buzzwords people use, my precious failing Newcastle United has already been taken over. The government is running these new projects indirectly so it's a little different, but this could be seen as a way to move forward or sport washing, either one won't be known until the future.
PGA is a little stuck in its ways and if you wanted to argue about ethics well, taxes go to UK and US governments and its not as if they don't sell weapons to be used horrifically, and many countries look at the USA as terrorists.
Can't knock a player not breaking any laws and earning a decent crust with more time off work to spend doing whatever they want.
99.9% of us would not turn down any LIV golf deal. The pga tour players are in that 0.1%.
Great footage Simon. Great to see golf on these shores. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
It's a bit like what happened to cricket all those years ago when kerry packer started a revolution. And look at it now!
The traditional controllers of the game are too scared to change what they have, they have no vision of the future or fortitude to take a risk!
All the ruckus is about the uspga and pga protecting their precieved legacy assets, in a world that is rapidly changing.
It will all settle down in a few years.
No filming on tournament days on PGA tour, are you blind or nuts? Watching US Open it’s more uncommon to see a spectator not filming.
Interesting that you think the pga tour owns the us open, regardless of that fact pga tour copyrights any footage of their tournaments on UA-cam. Yours truly blind and nuts
Competition is healthy no matter what the PGA tries to say
Sorry can't watch this bollocks golf comp it's all blood money end of
TERRIBLE event. It should be called “F@$k you golf league” - “I have so much money to waste that I can buy an entire sport out”
I am not interested in a Bone Saw golf tournament. Please stick with reviewing equipment....
Wgaf, people with no soul contributing to other people's misery.
Really great video. I'm absolutely sick of the virtue signalling about where the money has come from for this tour and to be honest am a little disappointed that the players have not called the journalists out for this. The appearance money being touted is very much **** you money which means these players do not have to pander to the virtue signallers. I would really like someone to ask the journalists where their iPhone is made and how they feel about it being made by children in China. Or whether they are happy about Guantanamo Bay still being in full operation. Maybe point to the countless deaths caused by US/UK military interventions in recent decades or their overthrowing of foreign governments. As for the 9/11 group letter, this also seems far fetched given that the media narrative was never that there was a Saudi involvement as this was surely the point of the various other wars that people were happy to go along with.
This league sucks and will not conquer the PGA tour. Money is the root of all evil.
Glad to see the WOKE PGA get their payback - not playing Doral, interfering in SC and NC politics etc is why I stopped watching the PGA.. Hopefully they will go out of business..
Is there a liv presentation of the us open? I'd much rather watch their coverage than anything pga related at this point. Golf Channel makes me want to puke, acting like cnn or fox news with their opinions and takes and fake news..
It appears that LIV have only signed up old has beens and wanna be, s 👎👎👎👎👎
New venues are good for the game, but it's all controlled by one country. How much for your soul?