Torah Tuesday - Exodus 19:1-6
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Torah Tuesday is a weekly video series with me, Dr. Carmen Joy Imes. Today I'm sharing from my forthcoming commentary for Baker Academic on Exodus 19:1-6, my favorite passage in the entire Bible! The people arrive at Sinai, Moses ascends the mountain, and God commissions them as his treaty partners and treasured representatives.
Commentary Mentioned:
Wright, Christopher J. H. Exodus. The Story of God Bible Commentary. Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2021.
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Thank you! I love treaty partner/representative in place of possession. And I love the concept that "hear" means action/obedience. And Ex. 19 was the passage I read in corporate worship this past Sunday.
So glad you enjoyed this! And so great to hear that you read Exodus 19 in worship!
You are a blessing to the Body of Christ.
Thank you!
Brilliant! Your enthusiasm is infectious. I need to think more about treasured representative and obedience as mission. It’s very clear that obedience is expected. I’m working through Matthew Bates’ Salvation by Allegiance Alone. Thought provoking. Similar to Dr Heiser’s “believing loyalty” paradigm for salvation in both testaments.
A great book!
Thanks for the devotional insight. Very helpful wisdom for anyone who is keen to serve the Lord.
Glad it was helpful!
My goodness, Dr. C!
Another rejuvenating Bible teaching. I knew it was going to be good when I saw it was about 20 minutes.
Thank you so much for availing yourself as a teacher to us all🤗🔥
So glad you enjoyed this!
Another mind-blowing session - more resources to read & concepts in context to contemplate.
So glad you enjoyed it!
Love your enthusiasm, it is contagious and I find myself loving this passage so much too! Bless you!
Yay! It's the best!!
So grateful for you and your weekly Bible lessons. They are a treasure. ❤
I'm so glad!
“ Obedience is not a condition of salvation”
This is a wonderful concept to emphasize as you have done. The western model of the New Birth seems to be focused on a sin to forgiveness model. For Moses and Abraham, it was about choosing the right God.
And the blessings we receive in part, are excellent Bible teaching outlets like Torah Tuesday.
Thank you Carmen.
Yes! Thank you, Scott.
I feel SO invested in this chapter 😂 Can’t wait to hear what’s in store over the next few weeks!
And LOVE the translation “treasured representative” 💕
So rich!
Glad you enjoyed it! I love this passage!
Thank you so much for unpacking an important portion of the scripture. Love and prayers from India
My pleasure!
Thank you! There is definitely a lot going on here that I’ve taken for granted 😊. Becoming YHWH’s treasure… going to get some tea and noodle on this…. I really do love this series….. especially since I’m in the Exodus class at the BP. So luckily to learn from such amazing people like yourself!
Yay!
I’m with you!!
Excellent!!!!! I see also in “ house of Jacob” “house of Israel” the level of commitment in the people themselves. Some are “all in” with Yahweh; some aren’t sure.
Interesting possibility! I would be more inclined to see these as synonymous, but I'll have to think more about it.
This is really good! Thank you 😊
You're welcome 😊
Hey Carmen, once again thanks for all you do.
You quoted - paraphrased - "obedience isn't a condition of salvation."
Yes, God saved them unconditionally. We've seen his grace in effect up to this point - and obviously we see it later as well.
But we also see the fact that the continued identification and even God claiming them isn't unconditional. He's super gracious and compassionate, works with them - but we see all these conditions "if you _, then I will _". And there's far more of THAT then unconditional statements/covenants that I'm aware of.
Would you suggest this is more in line with what James is saying regarding faith and works?
God saves unconditionally, yes. But our response is necessary to keep (prove?) that salvation because it proves we want it and its taken hold?
And the lens that I'm thinking about this is the Conditional Salvation vs Once Saved Always Saved - and I lean towards conditional salvation.
I don't want to write a book so I'll just leave it there, haha.
Thanks.
I don't find the conditional / unconditional distinction helpful because it doesn't account for all the data and it's usually (improperly) focused on salvation rather than covenant. They were already "saved" when they came to Mt. Sinai. God had rescued them. Obedience was not a condition of that rescue. God rescued them FIRST. The covenant stipulations were the parameters within which they would be successful in the mission God gave them to represent him well among the nations.
The if/then statements to which you are referring let them know the consequences for covenant unfaithfulness. God made certain promises (and I mean that in the strong sense of the word -- the promises are CERTAIN). The question is whether God's people will enjoy the benefits of those promises or will disqualify themselves and experience God's discipline instead. God's covenant is unchanging. It's our relationship with it that's changeable.
Am I making sense?
@@CarmenJoyImesPhD Yup! You understood the heart of what I was getting at and I more clearly understand what you were trying to get at in the video now!
Thank you!
De. Imes, another good one. What do you think is the significance of God revealing himself in a wilderness to the Israelites? I have some thoughts on this and I think it is very significant.
It's definitely significant. To be clear, YHWH reveals himself in Egypt to all those who witness the signs and wonders. But leading the people into the wilderness is entering into liminal space, where their identity can be re-formed as they develop trust in God. I write about this in the opening chapters of Bearing God's Name.
@@CarmenJoyImesPhD now I have to get the book.
Very insightful. Thanks. P.S. For some reason I can subscribe but cannot subscribe to ALL your posts, not sure why, it seems to default to subscribe to NONE, not even highlights.
Strange! I'm not sure why that would be. Can you turn on notifications for my channel? (by clicking the bell)
@@CarmenJoyImesPhD That is what I keep trying to do, click on the bell and set to all, but it resets back to none. I did recently subscribe all to another channel so I have no idea what is going on, I did not seem to hit some magic limit.
One word. Ambassadors.
Yes! That's a good word.
What are the distinctive characteristics of the series of which your Exodus commentary will be a part: homiletics, application, text critical- or whatever the current iterations are of such things?
The authors in this commentary series are free to focus on areas that are their specialty. So there's no uniformity in approach, although we are all aiming for pastors and seminary students. It's not a super technical series, but it is robust. The focus is not application or homiletics, but exegetical. My approach combines attention to historical context, literary design, and theological themes.
The thing about the birds has substance, when mentioning Elijah, some interpret that Elijah was fed by impure ravens, and some rabbis tear their clothes because in reality the flesh touched by impure ravens could not enter Elijah's mouth and that they were really Arabs. who fed Elijah. But this is for another video.
Yes, the word for the ravens is similar to the word for Arabs, so some have suggested that Arabs fed Elijah.
I enjoyed the video! Also from Ramban (Nachmanides, Spain, 1194-1270) in his Commentary on Exod 25:1 & Intro to Numbers), observed that Mount Sinai assumes the character of the wilderness Tabernacle for the duration of God’s revelation to Moses. A close similarity to Mt. Sinai & the Tabernacle is suggested by three levels of holiness: lower/outer, mid-level, summit/direct access. The summit of Sinai [where only Moses ascends] corresponds to the inner sanctum, or Holy of Holies (direct access, where only Hight Priest enters, Exod 26:33). The second zone, partway up the mountain, is the equivalent of the Tabernacle’s Holy Place (only priests, like Aaron). The third zone, at the foot of the mountain, is analogous to the outer court (the people of Israel, Exod. 27:9-19; 38:9-20). Insight from Nahum M. Sarna, Exodus (The JPS Torah Commentary; Philadelphia: Jewish Publication Society, 1991), 105. I think, this insight is "unique."
Yes! Many people have noted this 3-part structure of Sinai that mimics the tabernacle (even Eden has a 3-part structure like this). Perhaps Rambam was the first to write about it!
17:53 The Old Covenant is still in effect and the New Covenant is a renewal of the Old Covenant???
Yes, sir! That's what I get from a careful reading of Jeremiah 31. More on that in my book, Bearing God's Name.
Have you not noticed a special predilection of the theophanies of the I Am for high places, be they mountains or hills, to manifest their glory and their objectives with creation? It is not in vain that God is called the Mighty One of the mountains, (El Shaday). It is as if there is a link between heaven and earth when it comes to the Kingdom of God. A non-Jewish people who fought against Israel misinterpreted YHVH's theophanies, believing that the God of the Hebrews was only strong in the mountains and not in the plains. And they lost the battle against Israel.
Yes, I've noticed that.