Honestly, I prefer pump action or double barrel for shotties. Any application that would require an auto, I'd rather have an AR-15. That's not to say that these guns aren't great for 3 gun or any other boom booms. I just prefer pumps.
Because there are a hundred different Turkish shotgun companies and they all want to appeal to the American market. Turkey has a pretty long history of commercial shotgun manufacture, it was just more so bought by the international market until recently.
Because in Turkey we can buy only shotguns,semi-auto rifles is not for the regular people so thats why hundred different shotgun companies in turkey and also if you "look" closely at different companies products maybe you can see the difference bettwen them and also i can ask that "Why is there a hundred different AR companies in America all "making" the same rifle?"
@@avigares üstad ingilizce bilmiyordum yazamadım eline sağlık ingilizce önemliymiş. bu arada bu tüfekten almayı düşünüyorum bu videoda ve 1 videoda daha gördüm tutukluk yapıyor sanırım sen tavsiye eder misin acaba aldıysan?
@@ZAZA-pv4mw Bizim shotgun ların amerika da tutukluk yapmasının sebebi , bu hanım evlatları düşük güçlü fişek kullanıyor e haliyle tüfek full cycle yapamıyor ya boş fişeği atamıyor yada yeni fişek veremiyor namluya,ilk 150-200 fişeğin hot load dediğimiz yüksek FPS i (1300 FPS ve üzeri) fişeklelerle kullanılıp tüfeği açmak gerekiyor.
They ain't banning shit. They can try, but they will not be successful. Either the Supreme Court will step in and once again reaffirm our rights or if they somehow magically are able to get the "scary looking guns" banned, then we, the people, will take it upon ourselves to remind them who is actually in charge.
I've got one, I shoot it more than the AR. It is the fastest shotgun I've ever shot, fires every I put in it including H.E.S.H rounds. One failure to fire and it was because of the shell. It was smashed somehow, making it a little oval. I would highly recommend the War Wolf Ordnance 12ga H.E.S.H rounds. They blast a 5" hole right through a 18" diameter log. Its fast and rank af! When I'm at the range everyone puts their earplugs in. With a little practice it can be bump fired but make sure you can hold it down. One badass shotgun.
This is the first shotgun I got, barely got a couple dozen shots with it, but recoil is very low, even my Glock 19 feels like it has more recoil (I guess that's expected), but compared to the shotguns I shot at the range (the pump actions especially), it feels like negligible recoil depending on ammo.
Cannot for the life of me figure out where to get a replacement charging handle that works for this, the one that it came with mysteriously vanished somewhere. :/
What is the length and lightest load you can use with this gun ? I am having issues cycling? Also What were all the ammo you used in this video please? I bought one today!
@@Liquidhandshake97 I sent it back. Charging handle kept flying off, it wouldn’t cycle anything but slugs and the safety stopped working. Basically it was destroying itself every shot🤷🏼♂️
I emailed Hatsan about this and they said that because of current U.S. laws--they can't get involved in any modifications involving increasing capacity-so aftermarket is the only option
@@robertbacke5015 922r makes it illegal for a completely foreign shotgun to have a magazine holding more than 5 rounds. In order for you to legally be able to do that, you need to reference a list of (I believe 20) parts and get said parts list below a certain number (I think 10, and that includes the 3 parts in the magazine). Stupid law put in place to by Bush Senior's administration in an attempt to seriously restrict weapons coming into the country.
@@DrAlexanderHamilton Due to 922r crap. In order for a gun to legally be able to use so called "high capacity" magazines and other "non-sporting" features (pistol grip, bayonet lug, ability to use muzzle devices on a rifle, etc.), it has to be 922r compliant. That means that from a list of 20 parts or so that the ATF has listed, no more than 10 of those parts (including the magazine body, floor plate, and follower) can be foreign parts. Most imported guns are actually converted to 922r compliance before being sold to the consumer market, but some (like a lot of "thumbhole" variations of AK/RPK pattern guns including slant cut Veprs) aren't and need to have parts changed to US made ones in order to be legal to use certain features. They were able to get the drum because the drum itself doesn't violate any laws. If it were illegal to move around magazines just because they "could" be loaded into a gun that isn't 922r compliant, then you wouldn't see any large capacity mags for Veprs, Saigas, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if the drum is actually a modified Saiga or Vepr drum.
@@davidholland7863 www.midwayusa.com/product/1020933170 I use MKA 1919 10 rd mags in my df12 and they run perfect so I'm assuming this will work as well. I just ordered one myself.
I see vids with guys shooting 10 round mags through theirs. Any idea where they are getting them? Or are they common to some other manufacturer? I've also sent an email asking how to buy extra parts in anticipation of a bad pin.
Me too. If I find any good info, I'll come back and post it. In California, so only 5 round mags for. Wanted a Benelli M4, but they're sold out pretty much everywhere and this thing just looks like too much fun!
I have the BTS12 but I believe it takes the same, Check out PANZAR ARMS (Dkfirearms website) they have 10 round magazines as well as that 20 drum if thats what you're looking for. If you can find the same style its just basically AR style magazines.
@@aznkidcook9822 I ended up getting a ProMag MKA 1919 10-shot and a metal 5-shot for the Panzer and they both cycled cheap shells better than the stock clips!
I know it's asking a lot, but a field strip video on this would be awesome. I just got an sdx 12, and I've never stripped a gun like this to clean it. And let's say the manual isn't great.
Maverick Gunworks Escort DF 12 breakdown video I just got the SDX12 as well today and it’s the same parts just different material he explains it all perfectly super easy!
Hey I just bought a the escort semi auto shotgun I have never shot a slug can it shoot a slug or not and if I did what choke do I need to use my book doesn't say anything about them
I have the Escort sdx12. I am having cycling issues with 2 3/4". The shell gets stuck in chamber sticking half way out upon extraction. What could the issue be?
@Ballistic Bob the MKA 1919 has been around for a while and is used by Turkish Special Forces Command; they have ironed out all the kinks in the newer model (the Match Pro). They have redesigned the entire gas system, the drive block (common failing point on old generations), feed ramps, etc. Lots of these "clones" still utilize old designs from previous generations that are known to be inferior. Some of the fire control groups are made of low quality metals/improperly heat treated. To make matters worse not all of the clones are backwards compatible with MKAs, meaning they have proprietary parts.
@Joe Ç the new MKA 1919 Match Pro has a floating feed ramp to solve the issue. Not sure if this particular clone has this feature but it doesn't look like it...
Sound off/ Magazine fed shotguns or tube? Auto or pump?
Belt fed not an option?
@Joe Ç kickstarter? Go fund me? Where do I send my investment? Lol
Honestly, I prefer pump action or double barrel for shotties. Any application that would require an auto, I'd rather have an AR-15. That's not to say that these guns aren't great for 3 gun or any other boom booms. I just prefer pumps.
Looks like Typhoon f12 shotgun
Magazine and it's not even close.. In a distant second pump.
Why is there a hundred different shotgun companies in Turkey all "making" the same shotgun? That would be a more interesting video.
I suspect they just use old parts kits from obsolete generations of the MKA and just make their own lower receivers and rails.
Because there are a hundred different Turkish shotgun companies and they all want to appeal to the American market. Turkey has a pretty long history of commercial shotgun manufacture, it was just more so bought by the international market until recently.
Because in Turkey we can buy only shotguns,semi-auto rifles is not for the regular people so thats why hundred different shotgun companies in turkey and also if you "look" closely at different companies products maybe you can see the difference bettwen them and also i can ask that "Why is there a hundred different AR companies in America all "making" the same rifle?"
@@avigares üstad ingilizce bilmiyordum yazamadım eline sağlık ingilizce önemliymiş. bu arada bu tüfekten almayı düşünüyorum bu videoda ve 1 videoda daha gördüm tutukluk yapıyor sanırım sen tavsiye eder misin acaba aldıysan?
@@ZAZA-pv4mw Bizim shotgun ların amerika da tutukluk yapmasının sebebi , bu hanım evlatları düşük güçlü fişek kullanıyor e haliyle tüfek full cycle yapamıyor ya boş fişeği atamıyor yada yeni fişek veremiyor namluya,ilk 150-200 fişeğin hot load dediğimiz yüksek FPS i (1300 FPS ve üzeri) fişeklelerle kullanılıp tüfeği açmak gerekiyor.
I have the same gun. Actually incredible for the cost. I’ve run everything I have in my ammo room through it and it’s never malfunctioned.
Did hatsan fix the issue with the firing pin since you made this video???
*Promag* for when you wanna play Russian Roulette with a semiauto
crazy cool channel my friend! Big congrats hitting 200K! Wow, keep it up!
The People's Bookkeeper thank you
I just got the SD12. WICKED.
Hilarious and informative all in one tidy pkg. Thx!
Are you recommend this shotgun?
Is this the same hatsan that makes full auto hatsan blitz pcp air guns?
Was there a new part number for the hardened pin, or revised exploded view/parts list?
If so what Date was the new rev made?
Thanks.
what kind of drum cartridge is this?
The Promag didnt work??? Shocking!
When they ban "assault style" guns, do you think this be on the list?
Doesn’t matter. Anyone trying to mess with our 2A will pay with their life. That’s just the way it is. You know this. Tyranny won’t be tolerated.
They ain't banning shit. They can try, but they will not be successful. Either the Supreme Court will step in and once again reaffirm our rights or if they somehow magically are able to get the "scary looking guns" banned, then we, the people, will take it upon ourselves to remind them who is actually in charge.
What is the name of piece that you changed? I have the same shotgun and sometimes i have that problem
New subscriber. Good info.
Do u have a video of taking this apart? .. I just got my hatsan semi auto and within 100 rounds something broke and it won't fire
Anybody know the part number or any info on the drum? Thanks
It's the MKA1919
Do you know where to get the hardened pin? Is it available to purchase somewhere?
x2
Be aware, the charging handle comes out easily and very easily lost. I just lost mine in the mud and bush!
There is no way you installed it properly man. I had to use a hammer when I sent our gun back for analysis
Same
Thanks
I like keeping everything in the AR family. I see no reason not to add this to my AR-15 and M&P 15-22lr.
I've got one, I shoot it more than the AR. It is the fastest shotgun I've ever shot, fires every I put in it including H.E.S.H rounds. One failure to fire and it was because of the shell. It was smashed somehow, making it a little oval. I would highly recommend the War Wolf Ordnance 12ga H.E.S.H rounds. They blast a 5" hole right through a 18" diameter log. Its fast and rank af! When I'm at the range everyone puts their earplugs in. With a little practice it can be bump fired but make sure you can hold it down. One badass shotgun.
This is the first shotgun I got, barely got a couple dozen shots with it, but recoil is very low, even my Glock 19 feels like it has more recoil (I guess that's expected), but compared to the shotguns I shot at the range (the pump actions especially), it feels like negligible recoil depending on ammo.
Amazin drum magazine, where can I find it?
Promag
Cannot for the life of me figure out where to get a replacement charging handle that works for this, the one that it came with mysteriously vanished somewhere. :/
What is the length and lightest load you can use with this gun ? I am having issues cycling? Also What were all the ammo you used in this video please? I bought one today!
Try 2 3/4 bird rounds itll feed if it dosent something wrong with your Escort
@@Liquidhandshake97 I sent it back. Charging handle kept flying off, it wouldn’t cycle anything but slugs and the safety stopped working. Basically it was destroying itself every shot🤷🏼♂️
Hello friend sorry where did you buy the drum magazine? I want one for my shotgun but i not found
I have 1 of these . Had no problems yet.
Vso would you recommend this gun
Heard the music and I was outta there lol.
Hatsan tells me in the US only has 5 round magazines available, where did you find the Drum and 10 round magazine?
I emailed Hatsan about this and they said that because of current U.S. laws--they can't get involved in any modifications involving increasing capacity-so aftermarket is the only option
@@robertbacke5015 I've not found an aftermarket at list the escort. Any suggestions?
@@robertbacke5015 922r makes it illegal for a completely foreign shotgun to have a magazine holding more than 5 rounds. In order for you to legally be able to do that, you need to reference a list of (I believe 20) parts and get said parts list below a certain number (I think 10, and that includes the 3 parts in the magazine). Stupid law put in place to by Bush Senior's administration in an attempt to seriously restrict weapons coming into the country.
@@AFreakinProblem Thank you for showing us the law. But are you able to answer which after market mags are compatible with this weapon?
@@DrAlexanderHamilton Due to 922r crap. In order for a gun to legally be able to use so called "high capacity" magazines and other "non-sporting" features (pistol grip, bayonet lug, ability to use muzzle devices on a rifle, etc.), it has to be 922r compliant. That means that from a list of 20 parts or so that the ATF has listed, no more than 10 of those parts (including the magazine body, floor plate, and follower) can be foreign parts. Most imported guns are actually converted to 922r compliance before being sold to the consumer market, but some (like a lot of "thumbhole" variations of AK/RPK pattern guns including slant cut Veprs) aren't and need to have parts changed to US made ones in order to be legal to use certain features. They were able to get the drum because the drum itself doesn't violate any laws. If it were illegal to move around magazines just because they "could" be loaded into a gun that isn't 922r compliant, then you wouldn't see any large capacity mags for Veprs, Saigas, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if the drum is actually a modified Saiga or Vepr drum.
What is the small black plastic key that comes with this gun ????
Where can I get that 20 round magazine for my df12
Have you found anything on this??? I can't find the drum mag at all.
@@davidholland7863 www.midwayusa.com/product/1020933170
I use MKA 1919 10 rd mags in my df12 and they run perfect so I'm assuming this will work as well. I just ordered one myself.
I see vids with guys shooting 10 round mags through theirs. Any idea where they are getting them? Or are they common to some other manufacturer? I've also sent an email asking how to buy extra parts in anticipation of a bad pin.
Panser 10 round mag works
Where did you get that Drum magazine and will it fit the VTS bull pup
A drum available for this Df12?
I actually just got this very shotgun but its having some cycling issues. How can I fix that?
Keep shooting it and let the buffer tube break in. You should be good after about 300 rounds.
@@JewelzFin awesome deal thanks!
Yeah me too, I took it to the range last week, and couldn't get past 1 shot with a proper cycle.
Is it me or does that seem fairly quiet?
Do this gun kick really hard?
Cool vid btw and thanks!
Where did you find that pro mag?
I just got one and I’m having trouble getting it to eject the shells and loading a new one, any hints of what to do?
Throw that POS shotgun away, that's the solution
Same problem. Did you get yours figured out?
Same problem. Did you get yours figured out?
I'd be more interested if it had a rear charging handle?
What brand of mags does it use? Saiga?
Does any know if the Panzer Arms 10rd 12 Gauge Magazine - PA10RM will work on the Hatsan Escort
I just recently got the Escort SDX12 and love it! Any idea on what brand, model #, or where I can get additional 5 round mags and the 10 round mags?
Me too. If I find any good info, I'll come back and post it. In California, so only 5 round mags for. Wanted a Benelli M4, but they're sold out pretty much everywhere and this thing just looks like too much fun!
Go to Hatsan website and email them. Orders can't be placed directly online, but tell them what you want and they'll direct mail you an invoice.
I have the BTS12 but I believe it takes the same, Check out PANZAR ARMS (Dkfirearms website) they have 10 round magazines as well as that 20 drum if thats what you're looking for.
If you can find the same style its just basically AR style magazines.
@@aznkidcook9822 ok thanks. Are these aftermarket? If so, have you tried them? I ask because I've heard the ProMag brand doesn't work very well
@@aznkidcook9822 I ended up getting a ProMag MKA 1919 10-shot and a metal 5-shot for the Panzer and they both cycled cheap shells better than the stock clips!
what is the model name of the promag drum?
Does it suitable for hunting birds and other animals ?
I recently bought an sdx12 and I was looking for a drum mag and can't find one
At 13 minutes 15 seconds what falls off?
What's the intro music?
Cool video about an interesting weapon.
All of them!
Can you use 2.3/4 shells?
Perfect arm. Super 👍🏼🇹🇷
So no slug out of this gun? Or just out of a specific choke?
Just out of the choke
Sorry .Which choke? Thank you!
Joe Whitt the full choke. Personally I would recommend if you’re gonna shoot slugs no to use any choke. But that’s just my style
Improved choke or cylinder bore are good for slugs. Never use full choke while slugging unless if you have a death wish.✌
Can you get straight bullpup magazines more than five rounds
are these available? any idea about msrp?
Just picked up a DF12 where can you get extra magazines
eBay...no joke.
I want so bad for a company to put out a semi auto 20ga. They seem to be taboo to everyone but Mossberg, and their rarely if ever advertised SA-20.
Escort Gladius 20GA Shotgun, check it out
@@18thOvkkleyIGSDN 🧐That looks interesting. I'm going to have to do some research on that one.
Ria vr82
Can we get a brace with a 14” barrel?
This or the bullpup??
Thanks. Just wish you would have mentioned what the best shells (size and load) to use with this particular gun. 😒
slugs and 00 buckshot and #4 buckshot, no birdshots
@@zakaria600 Dangnabbit! And I just purchased a case of 100 #4 birdshot for mine. I was told by an "expert" they would work. 🙄
Use stronge shells if you dont want the problem.
I used federal 3inch 1 1/4oz BB shot steel and it was trash. Wouldn't eject properly.
@@jacobbennett4990 Dang it! That's just what I have too--100 Federal 3" 1 1/4oz #4 shot steel shells. Brand new in the box. 🙄🙄
Just bought mine and my empty shells won’t eject they get stuck in the ejector 😡😡😡😡
It’s not pronounced saboT round it’s pronounced sabo...just FYI! Thanks for good review! Been looking at this for short range coyotes!
I know it's asking a lot, but a field strip video on this would be awesome. I just got an sdx 12, and I've never stripped a gun like this to clean it. And let's say the manual isn't great.
Maverick Gunworks Escort DF 12 breakdown video I just got the SDX12 as well today and it’s the same parts just different material he explains it all perfectly super easy!
Hey I just bought a the escort semi auto shotgun I have never shot a slug can it shoot a slug or not and if I did what choke do I need to use my book doesn't say anything about them
cylinder
Does this shoot rifled or sabot slugs?
Its smooth bore so rifled.
That intro music is something lol
bacon's arm is bigger than my thigh .... he must work out(; lol
where and what drum mag is that and does it work good
It's a promag... Normally a nice magazine but are very finiky on the Escort-12
smooth-bore or rifled-bore barrel?
smooth
This gun could kill someone? Just curious, cause my family was attacked a week ago.
Use stronge shells if you dont want the problem.
Just got one of these puppy's hope it likes the kibble lol
guarantee ? 5 years?
I have the Escort sdx12. I am having cycling issues with 2 3/4". The shell gets stuck in chamber sticking half way out upon extraction. What could the issue be?
Stick to 3" shells
Also try shells that are 1250fps or higher. Guy at my gun dealer said you will have cycling issues from lower powered shells.
And fight?
I'd like one of these but I'm a manlet and all these "AR" shotguns have crazy long length of pull.
Has some bugs to fix, but still badass
All these MKA 1919 clones suck
@Ballistic Bob the MKA 1919 has been around for a while and is used by Turkish Special Forces Command; they have ironed out all the kinks in the newer model (the Match Pro).
They have redesigned the entire gas system, the drive block (common failing point on old generations), feed ramps, etc. Lots of these "clones" still utilize old designs from previous generations that are known to be inferior.
Some of the fire control groups are made of low quality metals/improperly heat treated.
To make matters worse not all of the clones are backwards compatible with MKAs, meaning they have proprietary parts.
@Joe Ç yes possibly a magazine problem, some of them need tuning so they present the shells at the correct height
@Ballistic Bob yep! A good example is 6:30 the firing pin retaining pin broke since it was made of inferior metal
@Joe Ç the new MKA 1919 Match Pro has a floating feed ramp to solve the issue. Not sure if this particular clone has this feature but it doesn't look like it...
He looks like a cheaper version of the spas15
Can anyone tell me we’re to get ahold of the pro mag clips ..?. are they all the same when it comes to the clips type 12 gauge ?
Promag website dude
Someone bought a VR60 and put their name on it
Yep
Worth the money?
For 450? Hell yes
Is bacon your little brother?
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Interesting firearm indeed
was thinking of getting this BUT 2 major parts fails?? PASS
Better turn that shit in or big bad Beta Francine O'rouke is coming for you!!
Blubber arms.. Look at that jiggle....haha!
All these shotguns are just clones of the Akdal MKA 1919.
Honestly there is no real point to mini shells in a box magazine fed shotgun just saying...
Jams alot
That's not how you say sabot
It’s pronounced Say-Bo. Not Sabits.
Esa no es manera de tratar una escopeta, se nota que no es suya, la, rompe golpeando, es un manazas
ProMag = NoMag
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Pssst....hey..............the Kalashnikov Komrad is better!
عجيب
Me poupe em 🙄
Стремная штукенция, я так понял .
cheap shotguns suck. period. save your money, get a mossberg 930