Surplus Firearm Market Report (WW2 MILSURP DEAL?) Gun Show Experience Military Arms Collecting 2024
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- The military surplus firearms market is getting crazier by the day here in 2024. Prices continue to skyrocket, and finding a good deal feels like searching for a needle in a haystack. However, I did manage to bring home an interesting little milsurp piece from the latest gun show. When I spotted this WWII German-marked Czech Vz.27 pistol, I knew I couldn't pass it up. This .32 Auto handgun may not be the ideal example, but I think it's a welcome addition to the collection regardless. Despite insane gunshow prices, finds like this are what keep me coming back. I was also shocked to see a full crate of Mosin-Nagant rifles still packed in cosmoline. It felt like stepping back in time a decade.
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Anything with waffenamts under $400 is basically a deal.
The milsurp market is dead and has been for a few years unfortunately. Looking at people listing hex mosins for $750. Only real deals are Swiss K rifles.
If it was dead we would have rock bottom prices...the market is on fire cause peeps keep buying
The collecting market is definitely not dead. That's for sure.
@arib515
More like younger dumb people that don't know any better are driving the prices up lol
Hey Readi i bought one that was scrubed from Hunters Lodge and it needed parts for $225. it took $250 more in parts and all new spring. I am gonna make a video soon on that RESTO. $350 is a great deal if it runs great. Thanks for showing !
How long did it take for your order to get to you, if you don't mind me asking?
@@adolestine9124 adol howdy.. Hunter lodge takes for ever. on your order sheet give them all your info that you can think of. Seems like it takes 5/6 weeks but they have never let me down and i got what i paid for. They got the goods at the right price. I subed ya too.
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@@adolestine9124 Hello any thing from Hunters Lodge takes about 5/6 weeks. Call them and ask how much and shipping and all that
Picked a 1922 Mauser Heer marked German stamped occupation made 32acp. Like new condition 350. Last month. Needed a striker spring. It was broken. Wolf spring kit. She shoot’s great.
32 acp was enough to start ww1. Lol
Svt40, I always wanted one and remember when in the $1k range on gunbroker 😢..Our G show 2 weeks ago actually wasn't crazy busy ..I picked up a siam contract gew71 "original mauser"for $65 and was tempted with a japanese murata for 170 but was missing trigger guard and crack stock but still a very rare rifle. Most prices were crazy but seem to recall a m44 mosin for $350 and not sure why I wasn't all over that. Nice find with the cz27 ..I think you will really like it. Love your videos & reviews and always send to a friend who's been buying cheap royal tiger imports too. Talking to shops , I've heard people arnt buying old bolt collectibles and muskets, they want shit hit the fan semi's
Nice purchase! Congrats! I found a nice CZ 27 about 10-12 years ago for around that same price.
So I feel there are a couple big factors affecting the milsurp prices. 1) they’re old milsurp, so inherently there is a finite supply for an ever growing collector base, people are going to begin outbidding each other driving the prices up. 2) people see prices rising so begin holding onto what they have to maximize their profit , meaning less on the market which in turn drives the prices up even further. 3) people turn in rifles to police buy back programs essentially removing them permanently from the market, as most buy backs destroy them. And lastly you have people with expendable income who don’t care what it’s priced at but have to complete their collections
Dude - $350 for a "matching numbers" WWII CZ? - The range will tell the tale - if it fires accurately, and functions well - then you got good my friend. Stay groovy.....
Welcome to the WW2 German Pistole Club. Just recently bought a 1940 P-08 Luger made by Mauser. Someone refinished it to a nickel finish, had to replace the trigger spring and the right grip panel was loose, so I put repro grips on it. However, I set the original grips aside because all the parts are numbers matching besides the mag, which isn't surprising. Despite these issues, I bought it because it's a good shooter, and it was only $700
I bought a 1943 Izhevsk mosin 10 years ago for $150, glad I did.
a family member of mine brought back a CZ.27 from world war 2, got it off of a german officer that had it in his belt. a 1942 dated one that shoots amazingly
Yeah, people need to stop paying these prices. Everyone at the gun shows is trying to maximize their collection and raise the floor with the sub-par options.
I think ya did good on that. Just having the waffenaut markings increases the value
Hi Picked up a 303 No4 Mk2 `1955 Royal Ordnance Factory Fazakerley As new only 20 shots fired For $700 But prices here are over the top in the last four years Crazy. Same rifle on used gun sites here go for up to $2.500.Cheers From Australia
Just pick my make up for 1800€ here in France
I got a mosin m44 made in 1946 in great condition at a local pawn shop for about $340. Had to haggle the price down from $550 though….
Those prices are insane on a lot of those Milsurps. I’m glad you found something great. Even with the miss match I think you got a good value . Anything German marked adds value for sure . I can’t wait to see the video of it in action. Keep up the great content!
Heck I picked up one for $245 all numbers matching, runs very smooth
The prices are completely batshit. They're not just pricing out the new collector. They've pretty much priced me out of it and I've been collecting for 20 years. If you're stinking rich it won't matter. If you're kinda normal, you can forget it.
Mumkey Jones! I'm glad to see you're doing well and still making vids! You rock dude
Excellent purchase. Many were finished in a phosfate type of treatment no where as nice as the bluing on yours- Congrats!
Big good deal !!! You have the two Eagle.Have fun with the litle gun.🤓
I got a systema made colt 1911 dated 1945 for $500 and a type 38 carbine with bayonet for $400 a couple weeks ago
I have a friend that has a soldier bring back. It's a K-98 dated 1943. The rifle has matching serial numbers throughout the rifle, yet the bolt has a whole set of different serial numbers. The story is that when a village or small town surrendered, the soldiers would remove the bolt and stack the bolt in one pile and the rifle in another. If a soldier wanted a souvenir, they would pick up a rifle and a bolt from the pile. That accounts for the different serial numbers.
It was also done at various factories as well. After the war, rifles and other firearms were simply disassembled, cleaned, repaired or refurbished and reassembled from whatever part was in a pile of parts, and then coated in cosmoline.
@@ronschramm9163 I failed to mention that he also has a Russian re-arsenaled K-98 and the serial numbers are all different. He said the Russians dismantled the guns; hard blued the components, and reassembled them. The serial numbers were never taken into consideration.
@noapologizes2018 Yep, pretty much the same for a number of old Soviet Block era firearms. I have a post-war CZ Mauser. No matching numbers on it. It also discontinued the underbarrel cleaning rod.
From what I’ve seen around here milsurps are actually going down a bit but with them going down in price no one is bringing them to the shows. The last gun show I went to probably only had around 30 ish milsurps and they were all at two tables out of probably 500 to 700 ish guns
That’s a super cool gun for 350, I’d love to have encountered that for the price. Very nice
Yeah its astounding to walk through a local flee market or gun show and see a mosin/sks that is missing a few parts and looks like it would crumble if you breathed on it but the seller still wants close to $400-$500+ for them
They can want in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up faster 😂
Just finished watching the video on a “familiar” looking gun.☺️ Glad to see you’re enjoying your new toy. Hope to see you soon. Ken
Nice I picked up a CZ-27 at a gun show A year ago but mine is a 1945 and parkerized
Hey. I would collect for shooters. Pistols mostly. So prices vary greatly.
Just found myself a French Ruby pistol from Sarco Inc. Only cost me $444.00 with shipping. I've been looking for one for a while.
But is it actually French ? A lot of the regular iebar Spanish rubys get passed off as French
When they likely never saw french service…
Quickest fastest way to tell is if they have the slide rivet on the left hand side. To cover the safety from being tripped by holsters…..
Battlefield one came out. And rubys went from being a $200 pistol to around $500 and in some cases I’ve seen almost $1000……..
@matthewjames4334 Yes, it saw French service. It has the rivet on the slide and the two stars on the magazine well.
@@jasontorre3267 id consider that $400 I decent price then. Good buy been trying to find one to accompany my berthier. For years. And just haven’t found the right one. For the right price.
Also the whole hand fitting of magazines doesn’t really help either.
@matthewjames4334 Yes,mismatched mags can be an issue. This pistol, which is a GN manufacturer, has an AG marked mag. Normally, I would be concerned, but during overhaul, the S/N was applied to the magazine floor plate.
Incidentally, Apex Arms is selling Ruby mags for about $30.00 each.
Just because the numbers are all the same, I would bet it was stamped wrong. But for what you paid for it, that’s still a great deal regardless.
It is possible with as close as the serial numbers are that when it came from the factory the guy put the slide on the wrong frame
I think that gun’s beautiful! Thanks
I got a super late war phosphate finish example for about that a few years back. I'd take one like yours all things being equal
Decent find nice gun worth the 350 I have 3 of them..
Lordy I remember back in the 90's those svt 40's were selling for $199.99. i almost bought one wish i did. $3499.00 now crazy.
that rotating barrel reminds me if the ruby I picked up a few months back.
Decent price
I always find it crazy that you have as few subscribers as you do, I love this channel. It’s a shame that the content is probably getting stifled by UA-cam
Seems like a good deal to me. Keep hunting.
The safety is actually based of of the mauser pistols from the 1910s
I pulled my Mosin Nagant out of the crate on my 18th birthday back in 2000, it was 59 bucks with a fucking coupon from Big 5 here in California. It's a 1943, M44 made in Izhevsk, no arsenal refinishing, no nothing. It took awhile to get the decades of cosmoline off of it, and clean it properly. I've slowly pieced it back together, by finding a cleaning rod, the tools, clips, and sling. I treat it better than the commies that had it before me, and I'll be taking my son out this weekend so he can shoot it like I did on my 18th birthday, although a bit more complete and the ammo isn't 7.25 for 20 anymore, or 50 bucks for a spam can.
I and others have noticed that higher end guns are dropping. I noticed that +$1k guns came down a few hundred bucks.
cool video
I purchased just about all of my military surplus rifles and pistols 25 years ago or more. A person has to be crazy to pay these ridiculous prices especially when a lot of these firearms are junk. As long as people keep paying these ridiculous unjustifiable prices, this is what's going to happen; more ridiculous prices. I go to gun shows hoping to find a reasonably good price on something but I rarely ever do. In 1992, I purchased a 1903 A1 Springfield with a C stock. Price, $275.00 {still have it}. That was a while back I admit, but it was a reasonable price.
I picked up a National Postal Meter M1 carbine for $1400 cash. It's in solid condition, but it does have an import mark on the barrel. Overall, I think it was a very fair deal and I'm going to use it as a PCC weapon.
Infamous Blue Sky import from South Korea?
@@donwyoming1936 yes, it's a Blue Sky import marking. The good news is that it's a very solid shooter and the import mark isn't too deeply marked.
GREAT BUY - LOOKS NICE
I would guess the assembly was a mismatch o pparts, oor a replacement of the frame. would be nice if you could find a replacement for the cracked grip. hope you will be able to get a few rounds through it
Picked up an M1912 Steyr at a crappy little pawn shop. Struck gold
That's pretty cool, I think I might consider looking for one. It's so against a P38 lol
Worth every dollar in my opinion very neat little pistol
It is not worth a dime if you can't sell it.
Awesome video RR
Sweet Pistol!
They are asking 800 for a broken baseball bat I'm done
3500 for an svt is insane they go for under 3k on gunbroker regularly. I got mine a year ago all matching but the mag post war refurb for 2700 after taxes and shipping. And I've seen other decent ones for less than that. This is why I don't bother with any shows around here but the 7 dollar entry fee antique military show. It's 60% boomers price gouging but 40% collectors selling off to buy more stuff. I always leave with something even if it's not a gun
0:58 Pretty sure that's a yugo m95m. Would've picked that thing up in a heartbeat if I saw it. Yugoslavia converted their m95s to take 8mm mauser and feed from stripper clips.
Mine Winchester 1895 in 7.62x54r very rare gun to find
Better run the Hotter Euro made 73gr. 7.65mm ammo through your pistol i use S&B, Fiocchi & Geco it may not be 100% functional with the weaker U.S. made .32acp been there done that. wondered for years why mine would jam at times until i figured this out.
Decent deal. Got to consider it mismatched. I bought a mismatched late war cz27 around 7 years ago for $180. I considered that a deal back then.
As far as the safety that is similar to my Mauser 1910 pocket pistol
I got my mosin nagants on sale at Gander Mountain for $99.00 each, my underwood m1 carbine was $400.00, m1 Garand service grade from CMP $600.00, mauser k98 for $400.00, 1903a3 from james river armory $700.00 this was 10 years ago. These prices today are just idiotic, and I refuse to pay them, and so should you, let them sit...
I’m jealous! That’s a great find. Lugers weren’t the only sidearms for the Wehrmacht. Great price 👍
It is not worth a penny if you can't sell it.
Fair price, enjoy it.
There is no fair price if you can't sell it.
that's a big pistol to be chambered in 32acp! i bet it shoots good.
Go with your theory.
Any gun that works is a once in a lifetime life insurance policy (paid for) & we hope we never have to turn in a claim.
I’d have bought it, think it was a good deal. Paid more for my VZ 70
just keep those shorts coming with complaining about prices idc if they are outrageous or slightly over priced i started watching shorts cause of those things literally cant get enough
I wouldn't look back. You got a great deal in today's overpriced market. The fact there is a finite number of old surplus firearms means people are proud of their property.
Theory is plausible
anemic 32 caliber. you want to stand in front of it while it is going off?
Why not buy from another online milsurp gun seller!
Bought mosin Nagant 1944 Carbine for a $100 from a Police auction
Smoking deal!!!!!
SWEET PISTOL 🔫 YOU DID GOOD 👍 GREAT CONTENT 👌SUBSCRIBED 🙌🏽 REGARDS
P.S. THE CZ 27 IS AN ICONIC HIPSTER PISTOL: THE HIGH PRIEST OF HIPSTERS, WILLIAM BURROUGHS, HAD ONE; IT WAS FEATURED IN, NAKED LUNCH.
Gun shows are a waste of time and money. The milsurp game is over now that investors have driven prices through the roof. I blame it on all of the WW2 video games in the past 25 years or so. They’ve created whole other generations of new people interested in milsurp that otherwise would’ve never given a shit about it.
Absolutely correct about WW2 video games and the newer generation.
More people getting into guns through video games is a good thing.
You have to remember they were using slave labor, taken from the work camps at the last years of the war, also late P38 can't hit the broadside of a barn, some had no rifling OOPS.
MILSURP gonna MILSURP.
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How do I send you a m.r.e I found. Edward
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So go the greedy boomers, thus goes the ridiculous pricing at gun shows... hopefully
People have to move on from this hobby, it has become pretty horrible.
The collecting hobby is fine.
It's your money do what you want but if people would stop buying this overpriced junk for we'll say 3 months or 6 months the prices will come down. So let these crooks rip you off
I am NOT buying any more guns to add to my collection because I CAN NOT SELL THEM. The price of Collecters firearms should be ZERO today because of the new Congress law on being able to sell your firearms only with an FFL License.
I’m in the same boat also bin collecting for 50 years can’t do anything suppose to be a investment when I retired now I only have interesting crap
lol okay
You can still sell your guns.
@@redcat9436 YES IF YOU WANT TO GO TO JAIL. Hell you can do anything if you are willing to GO TO JAIL.
@@redcat9436 BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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