i think the joke is jim knows pam enough to know she would hate andy and he plays with it ...if andy is that gullible sorry but shes not falling for him
I actually like Martin. He’s casual, honest, maybe an unintentional smugness but that’s more our predisposition to side with Michael (and the racial biases of some viewers) than any intention on his part. I think if he’d stuck around longer he could’ve connected fairly well with the likes of Daryl and Jim, but maybe the writers thought another “normal” guy wouldn’t fit well.
I don't think Martin is baiting Michael. I think in some respects he is an outlier in the context that he is reserved and "normal" compared to the zany characters (even within the branch he came from). In a situation where you are "new" it can be so hard to know what to say, so you fall back on things that are factually true (his comments on the tv in the break room for example). He doesn't know Michael Scott to the level that the audience does, so to him he is just being honest, where as we know Michael is going to feel jealous and small. I could be wrong. Also Prison Mike is great because they never brought it back to diminishing returns.
Finally something we agreed on. Never really understood prison mike. I watched the show like 5 times before I discovered that prison mike was such a big thing. I do love the bit with Ryan as the belle of the ball :))) and the Jim and Pam stuff, obviously. :D
Response to jim's weird little interaction with Karen: Like you mentioned yeah I do think Jim doesn't want any bad blood between pam & karen however, more so I think he's being preventive about his love for pam. You see, Jim still loves pam during this season and him pranking her will definitely set off some boundaries you don't want your girlfriend to know about. I'd do the same in this position, albeit I might have broken up with Karen earlier than Jim did.
yeah if he had told karen everything pam hated, karen would’ve picked up on the fact he was still in love with pam. i think jim tried to save karen from finding out she’s a rebound.
@LacklusterKid a security deposit more than a rebound. Jim didn't want to go back to Scranton all alone with his rejections in tow and had Karen as a crutch to lean on but Pam ended up way more responsive and open to a relationship than Jim thought she would..
This is the most memorable episode for me. Prison Mike is excellent. Mulverine's critique misses the key theme of the hypocrisy and awkwardness toward ingrained prejudices, the walking on eggshells, the fears and insecurity surrounding poltical correctness that often REALLY does occur in offices. Mike's inability to control his insecurity about his own prejudices, his staff loyalty and the resentment he feels toward a confident Black ex-con, causes him to act out and contort himself absurdly. He ends up projecting what he wants to suppress. That makes this VERY VERY FUNNY, and very relatable. Reminds me of John Cleese as Basil Fawlty in the classic "Germans" episode of Fawlty Towers.
I played with overlaying Andy and Kermit for a bit. I wish I could have spent more time on it, cause the song has been stuck in my head all day now. Pretty good cover of it by Weezer on Spotify.
I'll tell you exactly what Jim's reaction (6:11) was about (and yeah, it has Jim coming off as just a bit scummy).... On some level, this game he was playing (with Andy) on Pam was really a sort of flirtation (I don't even think HE realized it in the moment) but as soon as Karen tried involving herself, it more or less forced Jim to realize exactly what he was doing... and then KEPT doing it without Karen 😬 (tisk-tisk) ...just watch it again and REALLY watch Jim's face and entire demeanor change when it all clicks. Did you ever flirt with someone in your youth by drawing them one of those negative space pictures (where you're really drawing AROUND what you're trying to draw)... SAME exact type of thing here.
Great video. You should do a video on unpopular office opinions you have, like maybe list some character you like that everyone else hates. And maybe do the same with episodes or something as well? Idk just an idea.
I kind of feel that's like what I did with my Pam video! At least the comments would have me feel it was an unpopular stance! It's a good idea though! Keep pumping with with video ideas.
I always read Jim’s reaction as him being scared of Karen seeing how much he knows about her, the prank he plays is based off of his immense knowledge of the things she enjoys and doesn’t enjoy, and the small ways they interact during the prank have that same flirty flavor a lot of their pre season 4 interactions have. Things Jim knows Karen would have a problem with
I always thought it was just Jim not wanting to team up with his *current gf* against the girl he really loves. Like if Jim pranked Pam on his own that's one thing, but he didn't want Karen to be in on it. And deep down he low key just wanted to interact with Pam.
I think the Jim and Pam scenes are so important as show they are far from over and the final frame as you mentiond is brilliant. I love when Pam realizes that Jim is pulling a prank on her as has that same look at end of season three. When Jim shows her he cares she just beams. I love Jenna's acting so much and this was a pivotal episode for them
Jim didn't want to prank Pam with Karen for 2 reasons IMO: 1)because he likely didn't want her to feel like they were "ganging up" on her and more importantly, 2) Pranking people was Jim & Pam's thing. To her it could look like not only has he "moved on", but he "replaced her" in what was a favorite pastime of theirs. Jim is with Karen more to save face and deep down doesn't want Pam to feel like he's completely moved on.
A counselor once said to me that you don’t know who a person is just by hearing what their dreams and goals are & all that good stuff... you truly get to know a person when you hear what’s not so easy: what are the the things in their life that threaten to get in the way of that. With that ethos established, I say I wholeheartedly agree it is deeply satisfying to triumph over the obstacles between us & what we want in life. You said words so close to what that counselor said that I don’t take that as a coincidence. It’s truth I need to hear. So, very insightful commentary. Thanks Chris 🤜🏻
Ngl. I wanna give more of an explanation. It’s 7:30 am and I can’t sleep so you’ll get what you get. But your scorings sucks. I don’t even get how you’re a fan of this show….
I distinctly remember a lot of episodes of season 3 being mediocre and feeling like filler when I watched 3 or 4 years ago. Like I was supposed to enjoy it more than I did, but it was The Office. I’m not too critical a viewer but I kind of remember - since I didn’t catch that one amazing pan from Andy & Pam to Jim during Rainbow Connection - but I remembering thinking “the only thing I liked about that episode was Prison Mike”. There are elements that should be good like the building love triangle but the episode suffered from irredeemable boringness.
I personally disliked Martin Nash and his smug attitude, his stubbornness really gave* off the vibe that he didn't care about his job there and was determined to 'be right'
@@Mulverine It's awesome that you took the time to reply to a comment on a video you made months ago; I really appreciate your engagement with your viewers and I have been binging all of your videos since stumbling upon one of your more recent field guides. The amount of work that you put into each video and the professionalism by which you do so is very impressive and commendable and I look forward to all of your uploads!
*the worst part about prison was the dementors*
I think my new favorite Prison Mike line is "Taanks" (after Andy plays along).
@@Mulverine That's just the way they talk in da clink
"Andy hits on Pam with terrible info"
Actually, its probably more like "Jim hits on Pam through Andy"
Deeeeeeepppppp!!!!!!!
i think the joke is jim knows pam enough to know she would hate andy and he plays with it ...if andy is that gullible sorry but shes not falling for him
I actually like Martin. He’s casual, honest, maybe an unintentional smugness but that’s more our predisposition to side with Michael (and the racial biases of some viewers) than any intention on his part. I think if he’d stuck around longer he could’ve connected fairly well with the likes of Daryl and Jim, but maybe the writers thought another “normal” guy wouldn’t fit well.
And there's our smudgeness
7:19 Ryan being impressed by the Harvard MBA's in white collar prison. Seems to be some foreshadowing for Ryan's fate a year later.
love that!
Dude you're right. Right there he decided the juice was worth the squeeze.
I don't think Martin is baiting Michael. I think in some respects he is an outlier in the context that he is reserved and "normal" compared to the zany characters (even within the branch he came from). In a situation where you are "new" it can be so hard to know what to say, so you fall back on things that are factually true (his comments on the tv in the break room for example). He doesn't know Michael Scott to the level that the audience does, so to him he is just being honest, where as we know Michael is going to feel jealous and small.
I could be wrong. Also Prison Mike is great because they never brought it back to diminishing returns.
Finally something we agreed on. Never really understood prison mike. I watched the show like 5 times before I discovered that prison mike was such a big thing. I do love the bit with Ryan as the belle of the ball :))) and the Jim and Pam stuff, obviously. :D
Da belle of da ball*
Response to jim's weird little interaction with Karen:
Like you mentioned yeah I do think Jim doesn't want any bad blood between pam & karen however, more so I think he's being preventive about his love for pam.
You see, Jim still loves pam during this season and him pranking her will definitely set off some boundaries you don't want your girlfriend to know about. I'd do the same in this position, albeit I might have broken up with Karen earlier than Jim did.
yeah if he had told karen everything pam hated, karen would’ve picked up on the fact he was still in love with pam. i think jim tried to save karen from finding out she’s a rebound.
@@lacklusterkidd absolutely.
I'm particularly unhappy about how Jim handled the situation, he could have done better.
@LacklusterKid a security deposit more than a rebound. Jim didn't want to go back to Scranton all alone with his rejections in tow and had Karen as a crutch to lean on but Pam ended up way more responsive and open to a relationship than Jim thought she would..
This is the most memorable episode for me. Prison Mike is excellent. Mulverine's critique misses the key theme of the hypocrisy and awkwardness toward ingrained prejudices, the walking on eggshells, the fears and insecurity surrounding poltical correctness that often REALLY does occur in offices. Mike's inability to control his insecurity about his own prejudices, his staff loyalty and the resentment he feels toward a confident Black ex-con, causes him to act out and contort himself absurdly. He ends up projecting what he wants to suppress. That makes this VERY VERY FUNNY, and very relatable. Reminds me of John Cleese as Basil Fawlty in the classic "Germans" episode of Fawlty Towers.
You're not wrong! That's really insightful, and I really appreciate that! I'll need to check out the Fawlty Towers reference.
@@Mulverine Watch here as Fawlty says everything he wants to repress ("Don't mention the war")
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@@Mulverine that is also a reference of the hitler part that you hated in the first episode
I cringed before I realized it was actually rainbow connection. Now I love it lmao
I played with overlaying Andy and Kermit for a bit. I wish I could have spent more time on it, cause the song has been stuck in my head all day now. Pretty good cover of it by Weezer on Spotify.
I'll tell you exactly what Jim's reaction (6:11) was about (and yeah, it has Jim coming off as just a bit scummy).... On some level, this game he was playing (with Andy) on Pam was really a sort of flirtation (I don't even think HE realized it in the moment) but as soon as Karen tried involving herself, it more or less forced Jim to realize exactly what he was doing... and then KEPT doing it without Karen 😬 (tisk-tisk)
...just watch it again and REALLY watch Jim's face and entire demeanor change when it all clicks.
Did you ever flirt with someone in your youth by drawing them one of those negative space pictures (where you're really drawing AROUND what you're trying to draw)... SAME exact type of thing here.
I agree. If it wasn't a way to flirt with Pam... he would have involved Karen.
Great video. You should do a video on unpopular office opinions you have, like maybe list some character you like that everyone else hates. And maybe do the same with episodes or something as well? Idk just an idea.
I kind of feel that's like what I did with my Pam video! At least the comments would have me feel it was an unpopular stance! It's a good idea though! Keep pumping with with video ideas.
5/5 for me. Top 5 episode. They had all funny lines. Opening should be skipped. But I’m not going for bulk I’m going for tone. 😉
I always read Jim’s reaction as him being scared of Karen seeing how much he knows about her, the prank he plays is based off of his immense knowledge of the things she enjoys and doesn’t enjoy, and the small ways they interact during the prank have that same flirty flavor a lot of their pre season 4 interactions have. Things Jim knows Karen would have a problem with
I always thought it was just Jim not wanting to team up with his *current gf* against the girl he really loves. Like if Jim pranked Pam on his own that's one thing, but he didn't want Karen to be in on it. And deep down he low key just wanted to interact with Pam.
I believe that martin went to a white collar prison
Prison Mike is my hero so 6/5 for me😂
Noticed there’s Some moments in the show where Dwight actually gets annoyed by Michaels antics
I think the Jim and Pam scenes are so important as show they are far from over and the final frame as you mentiond is brilliant. I love when Pam realizes that Jim is pulling a prank on her as has that same look at end of season three. When Jim shows her he cares she just beams. I love Jenna's acting so much and this was a pivotal episode for them
Much good video. Better good channel.
I rate
🍌/5
i always hated how karen says “jesus” for a white person she trusts… bro wasnt white…
Jim didn't want to prank Pam with Karen for 2 reasons IMO: 1)because he likely didn't want her to feel like they were "ganging up" on her and more importantly, 2) Pranking people was Jim & Pam's thing. To her it could look like not only has he "moved on", but he "replaced her" in what was a favorite pastime of theirs. Jim is with Karen more to save face and deep down doesn't want Pam to feel like he's completely moved on.
Hugh Jackman!! LOL
prison mike in the house
"In the clink!"
it sucks that Ricky has fallen off
What happened? I’m not in the know on this
while watching this i got an ad from a movie with hillary swank. the movie looks good but....... is she hot?
A counselor once said to me that you don’t know who a person is just by hearing what their dreams and goals are & all that good stuff... you truly get to know a person when you hear what’s not so easy: what are the the things in their life that threaten to get in the way of that.
With that ethos established, I say I wholeheartedly agree it is deeply satisfying to triumph over the obstacles between us & what we want in life. You said words so close to what that counselor said that I don’t take that as a coincidence. It’s truth I need to hear.
So, very insightful commentary. Thanks Chris 🤜🏻
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what do you see when you picture a convict?
That bit cracks me up every time! Says something like “shizzle”.
your racist you think hes black...
Pamelamadingdong
Ngl. I wanna give more of an explanation. It’s 7:30 am and I can’t sleep so you’ll get what you get. But your scorings sucks. I don’t even get how you’re a fan of this show….
Didn't care for Prison Mike. The best scene was definitely in the breakroom. It was genius. But can't find a video clip.
I'd say 4/5 I personally love this episode.
i think season 3 was special.season 2 still had that awkward humor...season 3 felt like peak office
I finally knew the answer to the trivia question! Gotta love Kermit.
I know Jim ends up with Pam, but he didn’t have to gate keep her from Andy
I distinctly remember a lot of episodes of season 3 being mediocre and feeling like filler when I watched 3 or 4 years ago. Like I was supposed to enjoy it more than I did, but it was The Office. I’m not too critical a viewer but I kind of remember - since I didn’t catch that one amazing pan from Andy & Pam to Jim during Rainbow Connection - but I remembering thinking “the only thing I liked about that episode was Prison Mike”. There are elements that should be good like the building love triangle but the episode suffered from irredeemable boringness.
"the episode suffered from irredeemable boringness"
I might steal that one day.
The cold open was too ricky gervais imo
"Tanks." 😆
how dare you lol
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My favorite Michael character! Prison Mike! Andy was singing "the rainbow connection" a kermit the frog classic.
Lordy I am not going back to my physiatrist ever. I will just listen to your we are all in prison s of our own making.
Rainbow connection.
Rainbow connection,.I think its.called
Nailed it!!!
Love this channel!!
Can anyone name the instrumental tune used in the background? 2:25
What does Stanley mutter as he passes the baby?
Grrrrrr.. .Hugh Jackman
I personally disliked Martin Nash and his smug attitude, his stubbornness really gave* off the vibe that he didn't care about his job there and was determined to 'be right'
He was smudge and arrogant. 😂
@@Mulverine It's awesome that you took the time to reply to a comment on a video you made months ago; I really appreciate your engagement with your viewers and I have been binging all of your videos since stumbling upon one of your more recent field guides. The amount of work that you put into each video and the professionalism by which you do so is very impressive and commendable and I look forward to all of your uploads!