The Book Was Better: The Three Musketeers Review
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The opening of this movie in Venice always seems to scream "We saw Assassin's Creed 2, guys!"
More like played it
Why is Louis the XIII dressed like Louis the XIV?! XIV was the one that set up pretty much all of royal dress because of how crazy popular the Sun King was...fashion wasn't always the same!!!
THAT'S your big issue? With all the anachronistic bullshit in this movie, you focus on that?
Your channel just popped up in my recommendations and I've been binge-watching all your The Book Was Betters and just holy shit, man, you're saying everything I want to say but better. Amazing, dude. I love you so much.
Thanks! Glad you're enjoying it! A new episode is coming out tomorrow too, so make sure to look out for that! :D
Awesome!!! ^^
Fanfic writers!?
Someone has called me forth
I will answer this call....
Aubrey Fared it’s been 3 years. Where it at tho.
@@cooperality ye
Always glad to see another who appreciates the study of classic swordsmanship. I immediately got turned off from this movie from the first trailer the second I saw all the stupid wire-work acrobatics and explosions ala resident evil, when the magnificence of a rapier fight is spectacle in itself. Plus rapiers were primarily stabbing weapons with just enough edge and weight to draw blood, which made them primarily a weapon for one on one duels.
They could have given D'artagnan some sort of heavy bladed weapon fitting the period like a cutlass or other saber style, if they wanted to go with heavy hitting slicing weapon, especially if he's going to take on so many people at once like an idiot. Or have moments when the musketeers train him proper rapier work. Or, I dunno, TAKE TIME IN PRODUCTION TO TEACH THE ACTOR HOW TO HANDLE THE FUCKING WEAPON!!!
Thanks for actually explaining what the characters are doing wrong in the sword fights! So many reviews criticize without actually telling you why it's wrong. Actually really jealous of your fight club. Sure wish I had THAT in high school! Being from South Carolina we mainly just have Revolutionary or Civil War reenacting. Would love to get some medieval and renaissance action.
Krimson yelling "ITS NOT A BAT" will live in my head forever
Logan Lerman actually isn't bad. He just ends up in crap sometimes. If you want easy targets in regards to this movie, you've got Paul "Resident Evil" W.S. Anderson and his wife Alice, I mean, "Milady".
Pirate Style Jutsu You know what this movie is in hindsight? A Paul W.S Anderson version of Assassin’s Creed with steampunk aspects
But Logan Lerman is actually a stand up guy, and he has a show stopping performance in Perks of Being A Wallflower.
As an actual french people let me tell you: the way you prononce things sound like a mix between spanish and portuguese.
Is Milady wearing a corset without a chemise?! That's a great way to chafe the skin, Also nice ca 17th Century Beach waves Gabriella Wilde, didn't know that was a thing over spaniel curls, but kudos!
Yeah I have never been particularly impressed by movie sword fights they tend to be pretty silly and unrealistic, cus' you know bats, swords, axes all use the same swing technique right?
Erich Zorn Lol, yeah. All exactly the same weapon! XD
You should review The Cat In The Hat(2003).
(Shivers) the cat in the hat Jesus
I will say that sometimes they get it right.
Viggo Mortensen really impressed me with his performance as Aragon. He trained really hard in swordfighting, and used an actual full weight balanced sword instead of a lightweight replica.
The fighting in Gladiator showed how deadly weapons like the Roman gladius could be in the hands of a talented fighter.
Also, the 1993 version has incredible displays of rapier fencing(as well as just being a better movie than the 2013 version).
The Pirates Of The Caribbean movies have a lot of demonstrations of fighters using their surroundings in combat(seriously, the fight in the smithy should be watched by a lot of fighters who don't seem to realize that the blade in their hand isn't their only weapon).
2:30 Oh come on! Logan Lerman is actually a fine actor. Not his fault he kept appearing in shit.
That’s the joke... I️ think.
KrimsonRogue and George R. R. Martin are the reasons I'm into writing.
All I see with Logan is Percy Jackson with long hair
jayblade2000
And an English accent.
I would give the movie a pass on Milady’s Adaptational Badass parkour skills, since it’s probably down in Milla’s contract that she gets to jump and flip around for at least one or two scenes.
Every time I heard of "The Three Musketeers," all I could pop up is the one from a Disney version of a film, featuring Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy.
The first part kinda reminds me of Assassin's Creed for some reason.
Which one
I will say this for Logan Lerman, he finally won one with Perks of Being a Wallflower.
Oh, yeah!
It's not Lerman's fault he gets bad characters
He definitely nailed that role especially that ending scene
Another movie where I even like the Barbie movie rendition, kill me lol.
This is another movie my father and I like. Actually this movie was one of the things that got me into steampunk. Now I’m older I agree with the whole I see things I hate and things I like. Super confusing.
KrimsonRogue forgot the sequel-bait, Milady surviving and the musketeers not stopping the invasion (that includes a whole fleet of airships)
10:01 - 10:05
Well in the book Athos's Lackey Grimaud isn't allowed to with out permission speak. And if given permission once in the entire book. Athos instead used hand gestures and lip movements to communicate with him. Grimaud is actually perfectly able to speak and dose so about three times. During one scene in the book Grimaud talks without permission and Athos forces him to eat a letter. Sure he gives him some wine to wash it down with. It doesn't just stop with Grimaud. At one point in the book, Planchet acts up and asks d'Artanian for a raise. Athos, Porthos and Aramis tell d'Artanian to beat him. So he dose. And after that planchet doesn't ask for a raise again. Planchet in the book had to sleep on the floor because there was only one bed in d'Artanian's apartment. While here it looks like he has a cot. So I don't think planchet is treated worse then Grimaud was in the book
You forgot the ending when Buckingham takes Milady aboard his ship leading an invasion fleet including airships, setting up for a sequel.
I kind of like this movie. It's fun, and it was very upfront about being pretty much fan fiction rather than a true adaptation.
The scene with the razor wire was unforgivably stupid, though
Hi :) even though sometimes I have not read the book or seen the movie that you talk about, I still watch all your book was better videos because I find them so entertaining and hilarious! :D
Can we just take a second to question why they need 3d cg effects in a movie about the fucking musketeers!
TheEarthquake1001 marketing gimmick
Could you please review "The perks of being a wallflower" ?
It's not the worst version I've seen (that would be the horrendous 1993 Brat pack version) but this pales in comparison to the classic 1948 Gene Kelly version or (my personal favorite) the two part 1973/74 Richard Lester version starring Michael York, Oliver Reed and Faye Dunaway.
D'Artagnan et les Trois Mousquetaires (2005), directed by Pierre Aknine is also horrible. In this miniseries milady is a witch who makes a pact with the devil.
The Musketeer (2001) directed and photographed by Peter Hyams is also horrible.
The Musketeers by Adrian Hodges is also horrible. A fanfiction that omitted important historical facts in the book.
Fun fact: The Three Musketeers is has the most movie adaptions of any book. Unfun fact: The Musketeer (yes, singular) is the worst adaption ever made. It is the Rose Potter of Musketeer movies. It shits on the source material. You think the anachronisms were bad in this movie? At least they fit in a weird way and don't mix martial arts in with rapiers.
I'm pretty sure I heard Milady say that she passed the plans to Richelieu or something after letting Buckingham peek at them. The movie was pretty painful to watch, if only from the perspective of a history geek. It's like they didn't bother to check ANYTHING and went full tilt into portraying the pre-revolutionary France cliches... I wish they had kept closer to the book. It probably would have turned out better.
D: OMG Hannibal is one of the bad guys... I mean I'm not surprise just, I didn't know he was in this...
you should do "the perks of beeing a walflower". It stars Logan Lerman and is a really good movie adaptation.
If you think you can't pronounce anything in French, ask any Frenchman to speak english...
We're usually pretty hilarious when we do that.
Anyway, great video, and bonjour from France !
I'd settle just to hear a Frenchman call me "an English pigdog!" XD
Thanks, and howdy from America! :D
My fanfic writer sense...is tingling...
5:37 it’s funny that he mentions final fantasy because quite frankly if you change the names around this movie could’ve very easily worked as a live action adaptation of Final Fantasy,
Each of the main characters could fit one of the original classes from the first game even Malady fits as the thief, Porthos would fit as fighter, and instead of Divinci it’s Cid. It’s surprisingly works
How do you feel about the BBC tv series The Musketeers starring Santiago Cabrera, Tom Burke, Howard Charles, and Luke P. ? That is my favorite version.
This series is an aberration, they want to rewrite not only the book, but real life.
This series is full of historical flaws.
It's also my absolute favourite adaptation, especially because it's a three-season series and not a two-hour movie. I love their characterization and the way the leads play the Musketeers. Sure, it's full of historical inconsistencies and not exactly faithful to the source material, but it delights me so much - it's a joy to watch, in my opinion. Kinda of like The Mummy (1999) in the sense that you *know* it's not supposed to be taken as a historical example, but you still have a ride watching it.
Also I have a thing for all four leading men of this show. But that is irrelevant.
I like that version too! The action is great, and the characters are very engaging. They're all heavily flawed people, but at the same time they're also good people. It makes you root for them and hope they grow to be better, and most of them do.
@@ekaterinaalexandrovnashche3416 I saw this as historical fiction. Accuracy is not their focus, just adventure in a historical setting. Personally, I never minded that much.
@@artsman412 Many books are published and many series are made, but none of them is War and Peace by Tolstoy. Quality with precision is for a small group.
Oh god, Logan Lerman can NOT do an English accent. I mean but most of America can't so.
Honestly, the movie version with Chris O'Donnell as D'Artagnan was better in my humble opinion. It wasn't as reliant on flashy special effects. It was just hot guys kicking ass with swords and I liked that. I also liked the king better. He was young, yes, but there was still some fire in him and he stood up to the Cardinal with authority rather than acting like a silly peacock.
This guy reminds me of Linkara, in a good way.
I remember leaving the theater disappointed, I was hoping for some old-fashioned swordplay and disputes of honor and trickery... I got Matrix version of the three musketeers. And I don't remember well, but isn't Count of Rochefort supposed to survive?
6:57 Mister Darcy! Is that you?!
8:00 that should be a T shirt meme thing
Krimsonrogue telling charecters
ITS NOT A BASSBALL BAT
6:26 I think I know where hannibal ended up after season 3...
Which palace should that be, Versailles wasn't even planned yet + until Versailles all kings of france resided in Paris
Oh, I have an interesting classic: Gone with the wind.
The romance is annoying as hell, but the characters themselves and the social commentary is worth interpreting. Sadly the movie took all the romance and left out 90% of the social commentary. Even now, I can hardly keep myself from rolling my eyes when I hear the name Ashley.
I haven't watched the film, but I read the book. I found the romance with Ashley grating after a while and her relationship with Rhett unhealthy at best, but I LOVE the themes they developed. It made a lot of sense retrospectively why she was so attracted to each of these men. Ashely is the idyllic past she so desperately wants to cling to even though her world can never be the same after the Civil War. Rhett is her intellectual equal who can provide the financial resources and luxury she craves. He is also charismatic, a bad boy type, and lets her run her business the way she sees fit without judgement.
@@sarahtaylor4264
Yes, I agree. I prefered the book because of this. Like I said the movie focused to strongly on the romance.
Though of course you should always also interpretу the social commentary. Much of it is overly romanticised and one-sided, but it makes sense considering the POV given. "The help" for example would be a good companion book for it.
Essential NPC. + 1 Awesome Card.
14:45 I had the _exact_ same thoughts running through my head, and I could see the wheels turning as quickly as they can without stripping the gears! :D
Ending - Headsplosion. Hilarious, that is all.
-_I'll Be Watching._
well, it did set itself apart from all the other movie adaptation
i'm a dumas megafan and the most accurate adaptation ive found, both plot and characterwise, for the three musketeers, is the 1973-4 films. It's split into two: The Three Musketeers and The Four Musketeers, and overall follows the book very closely (while adding in some slapstick now and then which is legit p funny?) I'd recommend those ones!
I liked this movie. Still do, although I must say I like the 1993 Disney film better.
If you dont count the mickey mouse animated movie, this is the first musketeers film i ever saw (watched it in theatres with the family), and i really enjoyed it. I never read the book, or watched any of the other live action adaptations beforehand, so i was going in with only a small amount of knowledge about the plot. My only prior experience with it being the audio version i had for the radio when i was 5.
You should watch The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Logan Lerman is flawless in it.
Am I a terrible person for 'sinning' the movie when, admittedly a good actor, is immediately recognizable because they never dropped the danish accent I detest so much? And I'm danish myself, dropped my accent as fast as I possibly could though.
KrimsonRogue and George R. R. Martin are the reasons I'm into reading.
There's an old French (?) children's cartoon, with the characters being animals. Musketeers being dogs, Mylady a cat if I recall correctly. Best adaptation of the subject matter ever.
If you want a good version of this story, watch the 1993 Disney version with Kiefer Sutherland, Oliver Platt and Tim Curry.
The Three Musketeers (Три мушкетёра) produced by The Production Center of Sergei Zhigunov was closer to the book and more historically accurate.
The film has been released in two versions: as a two-hour movie in cinemas and as a TV series consisting of 10 episodes of 45 minutes.
Did you say that The Count of Monte Cristo is on the list?! Please review that one. Will definitely be looking forward to that... :)
And FFS - why does Paul WS Anderson have to keep using laser surveillance in all his movies that he simply couldn't resist inserting such nonsense in a classic story?! And not to mention his wife Milla Jovovich doing fancy stunts again. Movie could have done without that I say.
The 2002 version is as horrible as the 1975 and 1998 version.
I loved the 1964 version, which is similar to the book and does not change the story.
I don’t think anyone besides Hawkeye can hit a target from underwater (maybe Legolas), the distortion would be too hard to compensate for
I have a theory about why Logan Lerman's first fight scene is his best... it was probably the last scene he filmed for the movie (which was also the case for Kit Harrington in Pompeii, another Paul W.S. Anderson film).
Awesome review Krimson! I especially liked the criticism of the sword fighting (having taken fencing, seeing inaccuracies in movies annoys me and I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one).
Couldn't agree with you more on the sword fighting. I think Mr. Logan is too used to swinging a Hoplite cgi pen sword.
8:13 Your swordsmanship skills are perfect, KR. Wish I could learn it.
I would only watch this movie for one reason. Mads Mikkelsen.
Got bless you for not being embarrassed about your sword fighting pictures
you still don't want to overshoot with a broadsword. yes, you want to slash, but you still want to have it between you and your enemy. never next to you or swinging so hard it ends up behind you.
Only movie i ever liked Orlando Bloom in were the original 3 LOTR movies. But maybe that's just because he's so iconic in that roll
I think their portrayal of the King is based on The Three Musketeers play. In it, there are a couple scenes with him in it and he does come across as immature and clumsy. He's gullible and definitely presented as the kind of dorky idiot that he's portrayed as in the movie. Although, the movie does play it up a little more.
Okay, to be fair, Logan Lerman has proven himself to be a great teenage actor with "The Perks of Being a Wallflower", Darren Aronofsky's "Noah" (love it or hate it), and David Ayer's "Fury". And yes, they're all based on source material.
+Nicholas Hassan I'll admit, Fury really turned my opinion of Lerman around for the better.
KrimsonRogue Same here. :D
Especially since the guy who made "Fury" is writing and directing the new "Suicide Squad".
Krimson, if you want a movie based on a novel that was good, while at the same time stars Logan Lerman, may I recommend checking out "Perks of Being a Wallflower"?
Athavan Rajasingham Hmm, sounds like a decent challenge. I'll try checking that out.
Oh God. Jovovich's facial "expressions" make me want to puke and slap some emotion into her.
I've now watched this twice, the latter time purely to see Mads Mikkelsen
I cried when he went down to effing Logan Lerman's character
isn't that Til Schweiger?
You should do a "the book was better" for the 1980s version of Phantom of the Opera
Two technical comments: 1) Flamethrowers were on the scene from about 700 AD and 2) that "Gatling" was known in Europe from the beginning of the 15th century. So... nothing new under the sun.
I really need to read the book never did understand why it's called the 3 musketeers when there's 4 of them 🤔 maybe after I read the book it'll make sense
The Musketeers refers to Athos, Porthos and Aramis. d'Artagnan isn't technically a musketeer until he receives his commission at the very end of the book.
It is funny that the Fight scenes arent that good because Part of it is Shot in Germany and you can visit the sets and they realy want to show how good the Action is since they do alot of fightshows and realy want you to know how cool it is;)
Didn't they give their servants a beating before leaving town just so they wouldn't forget their place? Well, different times, I guess...
I actually liked this movie and really wanted a sequel.
That... wasn't.... a... BROADSWORD!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Also if ye want I would love to discuss sword stuff.... I am a HEMA and SCA member)
+Viktoria Tryfonova
I know this comment is very old, but I just had to respond. I combed through the comments until I found someone who understood my pain. He claims to have some knowledge of swordsmanship, then....
-- Mistakes a bastard/hand-and-a-half sword for a broadsword.
-- Says "Broadswords are strength weapons."
-- Fails to realize that rapiers weigh about as much as other one-handed swords (e.g. arming swords).
-- Uses _Troy_ as an example of good fight choreography.
-- Demonstrates technique that would make Liechtenauer vomit.
The only reason to watch this movie was for Mads Mikkelsen I've never wanted to kiss a man more in my life
They blew that vault and a bit of my heart died.
(Yes the same part that died when I learned of Alexandria's Library)
To be honest, the hair clip with the lock picks was pretty badass
I wasn't interested in this movie when it first came out but he strange thing about this movie is that it has alot of my favorite actos, Mads Mikkelsen (Like yall they got Hannibal, the movie had me by that point), Luke Evans, Christoph Waltz, and James Corden. Mikkelsen, Waltz and Corden are some of my favorite people on earth so when I saw them in this movie I was so conflicted about seeing it or not.
You may as well go all out with the Logan bashing and look at The Perks Of Hanging Around Hipsters -cough- I mean, Being A Wallflower. In all seriousness, I prefer the book over the film, but I'd love your perspective on either one.
Huh. I had forgotten about that one. Adding it to the list!
+KrimsonRogue Nice XD
So why do the English guards have the sigil of House Tudor on there uniforms? Pretty sure this movie takes place in 1600s or the 1700s...after they became extinct.
I read the Three Musketeers when I was a kid. I preferred the original cliff-side scene for Lady De Winter's death. It had more to it. Cool airship, though.
I love King Louie!! He is SO adorable.
OK so every passing video you become more and more cool. You seem to know many sword styles may I ask how you feel about the Gladius?
Zavven Sadein Not my style (personally, I like a sword with a bit more of a crossguard), but a basic gladius style sword does work very well for dual-wielding, historical accuracy be damned. I actually used a foam sword that was basically a gladius to spar with a friend about a week ago.
I use a gladius with a small buckler simple yet effective
I personally liked another version of the story. I don't remember how it was called (and even then it wouldn't help because I watched it in Italian) but one scene that I always remember was Dardanian fighting against the man who had killed his father and stolen his family sword, disarming him and therefore recovering his heirloom, and then offering the sword he was using beforehand to his opponent so as to be able to continue having an honourable fight to the death.
Also, there was a funny scene of the three + Dard in a tavern, discussing pick-up techniques. Atos shows off by seducing a lady with poetry, while Porthos goes right in for the kill and straight up grabbing a woman and kissing her into seduction. Dardanian then attempts to emulate Atos, but forgets the poem after the first couple lines, and so abandons that idea in favour of kissing the girl he was trying to woo. It was pretty funny.
That’s the 1993 version, my favorite! I love Oliver Platt as Porthos
Till Schweiger was in this Movie
That says everything
'Les Misérables' could be fun, too. Especially the musical.
The story is quite long, though.
OH MY SWEET GODS
RAPIERS ARENOT SWINGING TOYS
THEY ARE LITHE AND QUICK WEAPONS
YOU DO NOT SWING A RAPIER IN BROAD WIDE ARCHS LIKE THAT
I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS
Aubrey Fared and as soon as I typed this I heard you call them "lithe finesse weapons"awesome
I remember watching the trailer for this and thinking that it by the number generic shlock. Nothing puts me off a movie then the camera in the air looking down as a person runs through a hall with shit being shot out from the wall, then does a little slide.
Such a shame this movie had such a flat plot with boring characters because the set design and atmosphere is truly spectacular.
I keep getting halfway into these vids without being able to restrain my comments...then I go on to enjoy the rest just as much. At the 10.18, here I go again. Despite the absence of birdshit, the books contained a great deal of servant-beating, even more than adultery. Also, despite Oliver Platt's wonderful Disney Porthos (is that an oxymoron?); the definitive screen version must surely be the 3/4 musketeers helmed by Richard Donnner & written by the Greatest Author of Historical Fiction in human history (including Herodotus) - George McDonald Freasier! Yes, indeed! That Bloke!!! ;o)-
2001 Musketeer where DARTANGE is a NINJA
The Three Musketeers is one of my favourite stories.
Mads Mikkelsen vs Logan Lerman. I'm rooting for the villain.
Hey just want to suggest Bourne Identity ;)
Actually, rapiers aren't that light, being within a few grams of a long sword and a broad sword used properly, with two hands, actually has less weight per hand than the rapier.
I tried to like the book but to be honest, half way through the book, I found it boring. Although, I'll give credit to Alexandre Dumas that he was very passionate about the characters that he has written. Too bad the book just doesn't have the swash-buckling action intensity as the movies do.
I hear that sound effect all the time (17:16)
Oh it's Luke Evans!
I thought it was Orlando Bloom😂