Add Gonadotropin to TRT? Preserve Fertility on TRT, Sex Drive After TRT, and testicle size after TRT

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • Add LH Mimetic to TRT? Preserve Fertility on TRT, Sex Drive After TRT, and testicle size after TRT??
    In this video Nelson Vergel of Excel Male with Mike Kocsis and Sam Cook from Balance My Hormones, Bespoke UK TRT discuss LH mimetics that are known to improve Fertility, Sex Drive, and Testicle or testes size whilst on TRT.
    Luteinising hormone replacement with gonadotropin analgoue.
    Leydig cell atrophy
    02:14 Discovery of Chorionic Gonadotropin added to TRT
    0 2:23 Intratesticular androgens
    10:42 Water retention discussion
    16:42 Simple protocal and injection fatigue
    15:41Lipshultz stuy diagram and Fertility Protocol
    16:38 Fertility Shut down on TRT
    18:47 Mike's experience with adding gonadotropins to TRT
    21:59 Orchidometer description and demonstration
    24:00 Microdose of gonadotropins doesn't have benefits
    27:19 Erectile dysfunction treatments
    27:37 Sex drive medications
    27:50 Ending
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 45

  • @georgetoul
    @georgetoul 4 роки тому +9

    Nelson was the first to mention the significance of HCG for better steroidogenesis
    Pregnenolone,progesterone and DHEA

    • @dw4076
      @dw4076 4 роки тому +1

      Doc what would you say for low shbg and sex drive not 100 per cent

    • @berjohansen
      @berjohansen 4 роки тому +1

      d w more test and frequent injections

    • @dw4076
      @dw4076 4 роки тому +2

      @@berjohansen thankyou doc my ranges of test free test and estrogen are good but I've been told about this frequency so I'm going to go from twice a week to 3 times see if that helps

    • @andrewmcdonald407
      @andrewmcdonald407 4 роки тому +1

      Its a shame these benefits weren't discussed, would make good topic

    • @berjohansen
      @berjohansen 4 роки тому +1

      d w look into getting your insulin sensitivity up as well, low shbg and insulin resistance goes hand in hand

  • @csk4j
    @csk4j 3 місяці тому

    Sounds like most sensible advice..start simple unless you have a reason

    • @balancemyhormones
      @balancemyhormones  3 місяці тому

      Starting simple is definitely a good approach in most cases!

  • @ironbound1984
    @ironbound1984 4 роки тому +1

    Another excellent video!

  • @martinnichols45
    @martinnichols45 4 роки тому +3

    * do we have to cycle on/off HCG when we combine it to our TRT?

  • @martinnichols45
    @martinnichols45 4 роки тому +4

    How long can we stay on HCG (combined with our TRT) , do we have to lower our TRT dosage if we had HCG ? Will that makes us feel NOTABLY better than on TRT alone ( cause rarely the cost of HCG will be covered by our insurance ) and will it cause damage or downregulation to our Leydig's cells over the long term?

  • @scottl7644
    @scottl7644 4 роки тому +1

    Another nice colab with Nelson. 👍👍👍
    The power of the placebo affect is massive. I use it a lot with my clients to prove a system of things or a point if need be.
    I do agree that HCG does increase my sex drive as I do have some pretty bad testicular atrophy. And I have found over the years that once my smallest size is achieved that I start a course of HCG. Luckily I do not suffer any water retention problems with HCG. However I also run Proviron as needed and if I see my face becoming puffy. And as Proviron will also increase free testosterone levels and thus a steroidogenisis and synthesis all round. But without a trial as Nigel said. We will not know for sure. This for me is just a ego thing unfortunately. Yes I have an ego 😢😢😢😁😁😁. Some nice information guys.
    Best regards,
    Scott.

  • @totallyraw1313
    @totallyraw1313 4 роки тому +4

    Does adding low dose HMG in addition to HCG on TRT make guys feel better in any respect?

    • @jakedahammer
      @jakedahammer 3 роки тому +2

      Ive been wondering the same thing but Nobody seems to have much experience with HMG

    • @ricktharuler7911
      @ricktharuler7911 2 роки тому

      I think HMG is strictly if you’re trying to conceive because my understanding is it increases FSH

    • @totallyraw1313
      @totallyraw1313 2 роки тому +1

      @@ricktharuler7911 Yes but it also increases libido

  • @MontezumasViper
    @MontezumasViper 5 місяців тому

    How do you get an effective return of progesterone and pregnenolone while on TRT? HCG, HGH, rFSC, and how much of a dose?

    • @balancemyhormones
      @balancemyhormones  4 місяці тому

      To optimize your hormone levels while on TRT, it's best to consult with a healthcare provider who specializes in hormone therapy for personalized guidance.

  • @HardHeadMilitary
    @HardHeadMilitary 2 роки тому

    Doc has me on 1/2ml test, twice a week
    And .25ml gonadorelin once a week.
    From what i have read, im not dosing enough with gonadorelin

  • @7THxSIGN
    @7THxSIGN Рік тому

    100 mg cyp twice a week with HCG 500iu twice a week. I have zero libido. Doctor just put me on an AI. When I first got on TRT a couple years ago I felt great and libido was awesome. Now at 40 years old, libido is gone. Latest blood work was Testosterone at 934ng/dL and Estradiol at 52ng/dL.

    • @balancemyhormones
      @balancemyhormones  Рік тому

      Sometimes life or stress can get in the way of libido despite what appears to be normal or even optimal levels. Try going on holiday and then see if you're lbido returns.

    • @7THxSIGN
      @7THxSIGN Рік тому

      @@balancemyhormones thank you. The problem I’m facing is nothing has changed in terms of stress levels in my life nor do I feel stressed or overworked.

    • @spencerlev_fitness
      @spencerlev_fitness Рік тому

      What are your dhea levels? That can also play a part in libido.

    • @7THxSIGN
      @7THxSIGN Рік тому +2

      @@spencerlev_fitness I changed doctors and my new one figured it out. I was on 1cc of 200mg a week and felt like crap. Zero energy and libido.
      Did my blood work and was over 1381ng/dL. Prolactin was elevated along with estrogen.
      I lowered my dose and began micro dosing. Got on an AI and Cabergolne. I feel much better now. I won’t need the AI anymore most likely after my next blood work.

    • @spencerlev_fitness
      @spencerlev_fitness Рік тому +1

      @@7THxSIGN glad to hear it man! Blood work will show all. And having the right doctor who knows how to deal with hormones. 👍

  • @tf201
    @tf201 2 роки тому

    I know it is two times a week but how much is the dosage of Gonadorelin?

  • @bige2012
    @bige2012 3 місяці тому

    "after TRT"? There is never an after TRT, or one wouldn't have started. HcG is most certainly be used with TRT or as PCT after cycle of steroids.

  • @EB-bk4kv
    @EB-bk4kv Рік тому +1

    Dont you have to inject every 30 minutes or so with this?

    • @aziziever
      @aziziever 5 місяців тому +1

      3 times a week

    • @EB-bk4kv
      @EB-bk4kv 5 місяців тому

      @@aziziever but the half life is so short it’s not a good replacement for or instead of hcg

  • @robinhood463
    @robinhood463 3 роки тому

    HCG 100 IU ed makes me to a Women.
    Boots after 3 days with 25mg TE eod.

  • @willjacobs2112
    @willjacobs2112 4 роки тому

    Can you guys do a deltoid injection Video?

  • @2rep989
    @2rep989 4 роки тому +1

    Whats a good HCG dose?

    • @dw4076
      @dw4076 4 роки тому +1

      That's what I was thinking he says between 500 or 1000 3 times a week at one point but what about how long for etc

    • @OldManStrength4094
      @OldManStrength4094 4 роки тому

      And does the dose vary if one is just trying to reverse atrophy vs someone hoping to have children? In other places, I’ve read that for the former, one could try as little as 250iu 3x/week.

    • @detroitdiesel2983
      @detroitdiesel2983 3 роки тому +2

      250-500 iu twice a week

  • @dominionn09
    @dominionn09 3 роки тому

    So long term trt can make it so you don't have sex drive? That is weird to me as test is test?

    • @balancemyhormones
      @balancemyhormones  3 роки тому +2

      Some men feel an improved sex drive when HCG is added. Some men do not and find testosterone only does the job.