This HARD STUCK Moira wants to know who's to blame... | Spectating Bronze Bingo
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Tank switching to Hog in low elo always mean the same thing: “No heals”
That's what they're definitely trying to say, but what's usually happening is 'Feeding Tank 2: Feed Harder'
literally had someone go from doom to hog recently because they were complaining/spamming they need healing that the other healer and I weren't healing even though we both had well over 10k, lmao
@@Vulpish The funny part is that Hog is like really bad right now, so usually switching to Hog just makes the situation a lot worse, haha.
Yeah or they switch to horse and run away from you and stay alive JUST before u get there
Not always
I had one time a tank player who played Reinhard at first, he charged always solo in when the team was respawning
He switched to hog and was running solo in
It's not always the missing healing
I used to never fall off Rialto until recently after watching it happen so many times. I have now come to the conclusion that falling off Rialto is an SCP cognito hazard.
you should consider adding "support tries to heal enemy" to the bingo list, the amount of times i just watched this moira try to heal the enemy orisa absolutely killed me
I love how both the Orisa's often just fight each other like some kind of beetle battle and just ignore the rest of the team
it's the honorable Orisa duel. no one goes for the other backline, they both just focus on proving dominance. on the upside, no one has to deal with a horse in the back line, so honestly, it's hard for me to wholeheartedly say I don't approve of the strategy. no one likes a horse in their backline, especially when you are the backline like me lmao
I can't tell if he's somehow missing Moira heals or if he's trying to heal the wrong Orisa all the time lmao
it’s both
I kept thinking the blue Orisa was his because of how he was positioned and aiming
Biggest place the guy can improve is aiming the balls. I dont think he once tried to ricochet the damage or healing orb so that it'd make a second pass on his target
@@dannyf39437 I like to throw the balls against walls and use the magic of math
Especially when the enemy has a dva
Throwing balls against walls on the right angle, makes the magic
i like to think this Moira recognized maybe enemy Orisa wasn't getting enough healing all the time so they decided to spray healing in their face as a power move, like "look at what you could be getting right now but you're not"
To the person who said "plastic rank" after the soldier fell off the map. Thank you, i am dying laughing rn
I’ll never understand why people see reaper with SHOTGUNS and think “Yes walking closer to him gives ME the advantage” ESPECIALLY when they kept fading on top of them, like bro you are hard stuck BECAUSE you consistently take bad trades like trying to 1 v 1 a REAPER point blank as moira
im in masters and whenever I run reaper I somehow lost 1v1 confrontations against a moira
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wbhigh lvl play moira’s r scary asf, i don’t blame u for losing
@@JotaroKujo-ip5wbprobably because they don’t have to aim and they have more healing
Bro watching the tanks at 3:12 is the funniest shit. They really said “nah forget the rest of the team. Its just you and me and one of us must fall”
I love doing this in quickplay games, you just go off and have your own little 1v1. Find little bits of fun in this game every now and then.
there can be only one lol
This is Reinhardt v Reinhardt in a nutshell
Literally looks like someone mashing 2 action figures together lmao
@@knightbreezeplays5956that's the only way to play rein v rein tbh. Establish dominance
21:10 something I've noticed is that this Moira does not commit to a direction they're fading into. That retreat fade could have worked if the committed to fading into the alley and up the stairs. Losing LOS is key to survival. Especially as support
When I was climbing, I observed that until around high gold, most people just do not register that the rest of the map exists aside from the main path, unless they're somehow accidentally forced into those situations.
Our Moira was literally looking at that alleyway, and said, "Nah, fam - I'm not going to run into the safety of these high walls, I'll instead cut across their stack so they can make me explode."
Stuff like that Soldier doing a back flank to ult is rare.
tbh, this Moira would have an easier time keeping this kind of tank up if they weren't missing such a large portion of their healing. yes, Moira's healing doesnt last forever, you need to recharge, but the healing stretches a lot further if you're landing more of it. I dont know if they need to up their sensitivity or what, but this is a significant problem that doesn't need to be such a barrier to success.
hard agree, half the time they were aiming the healing at the ground lmao and using their healing orb when the entire team was full hp
@@trvpnestlisten, the ground goes through a lot, sometimes it needs a little bit of healing too lol but yeah! and I get it can be difficult with Moira because you're like "uhh everyone is low, SPRAY AND PRAY" and it seems like a good idea in the moment but it's one of those things where it's actually less efficient and if you just take a second to breathe, you're able to be more effective and efficient
17:45 that was actually a brilliant play by moira ! i doubt he meant it though lol
You can tell they didn't mean it, because they were were walking back and forth and looking around, seemingly wondering where they were and how this Soldier got in front of them.
The worst part about them fading around that door was that they didnt have to fade. Could have just walked and saved fade for trouble. Also the Bastion was low. Thats who they should have targeted.
Worst part was they used that very useful ability to literally save 3 seconds of movement time
Average moira gameplay: only tries to heal you after you’re dead and somehow misses half their heals even though you just need to spray in the general direction of a teammate
Haha, I was playing with my group on Antarctica and we had one rando that was Orisa. They ran to the point, Ulted, got Anti-Healed as I popped my Ult as Zen and they then said "I was counting on that Ult Zen" to which I replied, "You were Anti-Healed". Getting tunnel vision and not focusing on what's going on around you and then blaming your teammates is my favorite thing about this game.
emongg is the only ow cc that I watch regularly lately, he's just so chill
Emongg, jay3, and awkward for me
@@LelandJ71i watched a lot of jay3's videos until i watched a vod where he yelled at his duo and then was dissing her in whisper chat with another friend. i just can't watch him anymore because that makes me so sick. so awful considering he's good at the game
@@tohmoocow Ngl, I don't really like him too much as a person. It's more about the content he puts out. You can't deny it's good stuff.. but yeah, he is toxic.
@@tohmoocowIsn't that just banter between friends? My friends trash talk each other all the time
@@lemonzest_ there is a difference when its intentionally behind someones back
Upon further inspection I think I might be with the tank. The Moira was waiting to heal until the tank was in DIRE NEED of healing. The Moira was directly behind the tank, holding grasp past the orisa, while the orisa is critical, then when they have under 100 hp they're trying to heal them to full.
The Rein swap doesn't seem to be the play tho
A good tip for Moira players is to ALWAYS use an orb right before you ult, in this game there are so many occasions when the Moira has orb on cooldown but refuses to use it when it should be used at almost every chance.
Switching to Rein off Orisa when the other team is playing Zen/Bastion is ambitious to say the least
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I poop and watch bingo on company time.
honestly i feel that on a spiritual level
not gonna lie, I think about this comment sometimes and, because I work from home, it reminds me not to use my breaks to grab snacks, coffee, etc., and to take a bathroom break while on the clock lmao
"Telling them to group up and it's just not happening" that's bronze/silver/gold for you. Teams are sometimes willing to group up, but not often enough.
That soldier at 14:02 was so funny I choked on my food 😭
I’ve rewatched that part like 7x now
a swell treat to watch as I eat breakfast and dread getting started on work today 😅💖
Sounds like an interesting job. Name of it?
U can do it I believe in u. Get dat money
Same here tbh, minus the brekky.
ur a swell treat 💖
@@kanekianti-sora1666lol I'm a lawyer, so it's not that work is awful, I love my profession, I'm just tired and I was sick yesterday due to bad air quality and getting started can be rough sometimes
Enemy runs Bastion/Zen: "Yeah...Imma go Rein and Hog!"
14:35 is the most bronze thing I've ever seen.
A soldier that gets so excited about boxing with a solid, decorative wall that he accidentally falls off of the bridge right before the round starts.
the tank: running away from the support heading to narnia
Emong: well erm thats a tough one you see what had happened was
yall need to stop defending the tanks when they consistantly SEEE the support chasing them but just keep runing instead of using spin or fortify to negate damage and let the support reach them so they can get heals
9:00 use healing orb on the wall or ceiling so it actually bounces in one place and doesnt just immediately fly away.
I get so irritated when I see moira players waste their heals on full hp targets consistently. Your heals are so valuable and a limited resource that you need to only use when needed. There are consequences for using them needlessly, and once lower rank moiras start to realize that they will start to rank up quicker
Notice the moira ult emongg said was "the best", they didn't even try to aim the ult at the 1hp phara. When she did aim at squishies, it was just in the general direction of a bunch of them instead of trying to focus someone down.
Easiest things to improve on are: Don't randomly fade if you don't need to and can just go around the corner. And don't just throw your orb straight down an alley or wherever, but rather let it bounce of the walls so you do more Healing/DMG
I think this Moira's biggest problem is how lost they seem to get after fading, and sometimes just in general. Like as a support, you should prioritize keep your teammates up. When you have 0 idea where your team is and who's at what hp, you can't really support. Yeah, damaging as Moira can help when the team needs it, but it shouldn't be your first thought. This player, if they want to get out of bronze, needs to get better awareness of their team, but also just learning how to be more efficient with her kit.
Agreed, they also need to aim their heals better and not waste heals, I noticed that quite a bit
@@_y0inks581 Ontop of that, they used healing orbs very weirdly. I play Moira alot, and I really only use healing orbs when absolutely necessary. Thats just because damage orbs refill heals now, but also it lets me heal while damaging. I think they need to learn when damage orb/healing orb is more beneficial for the situation rather than relying on healing orb to heal properly.
@@yeeyeebrother3623 definitely
@@yeeyeebrother3623something I've noticed in a few of the lower ranked vods is that supports will often rely on their healing abilities to make up for their lapses in attention and mistakes. which to some extent, I get! overwatch is an insanely chaotic game, there's a lot happening, and it can feel like you look away for two seconds and suddenly everyone is dying. but once you learn to ease up on tunnel visioning on things, you start to notice you have a lot more time to take care of your team so you don't need to use your abilities in panic and can use them more judiciously.
The part that begins at 14:08! Someone commented later "ADHD at it's finest" and I have never felt so seen! 🤣🤣🤣
watching these two bronze orisas fight and miss half their shots and all their javelins is like watching 2 puppies play, its hilarious and adorable
2:20, taking an off angle was actually perfectly fine here since the orisa was full health, the problem is that moira faded in and is now an easy kill. She should have just walked and played the corner instead of full sending it without mobility or cover. Remember kids, damage wins games, not heals, you will never ever ever outheal 5 people doing damage with only 2 supports, especially with one shots in the game.
Another observation, their sensitivity is way too high that they are literally struggling to aim as moira.
Orbs are thrown randomly and the trajectory of the bounce is rarely calculated, they need to slow down a second and actually think about where the orbs are going to go.
Healing vs damage orb needs to be considered better, do you throw your damage orb at the three enemies infront of you, or do you throw your healing orb at the friendly orisa who's nearly full health, with a full piss heal bar? Probably the damage orb.
Stop using fade to dive directly into the enemies face that is literally right next to you, take the 2 seconds to walk around the corner instead of wasting your ability. You could also fade behind them to a position with cover, so they arent looking directly at you while you tickle them.
Stop healing full health allies, they are full health.
In the words of the immortal Flats: "STOP SHOOTING THE HORSE!"
They should add sirens/stalkers into the canals of rialto. Then they can finally have an excuse of falling victim to the waters.
📢 SO
Whenever I hear that, I instantly get excited. So happy we finally got a bingo again. Can't wait to see how other ranks will do with the bingo card 😊
When I hear 📢SO, I know I'm in for a treat
Bronze Bingo is my favorite series ever! So glad it's back! ❤
Having health bars on the screen for healers to see who needs healing would probably be beneficial instead of having to constantly do a 180 to see little bobby too afraid to move with 80% hp spamming I need healing
It’s color coded and you can see teammates through walls. You can only help so much.
Nah if you can't keep track of other players then you're just bad. You can see teammates through freaking walls man
Counterpoint - OW2 is the only hero shooter that doesn't show health bars in pvp. Accessibility isn't a bad thing, but please, continue badmouthing for no reason at all.
That's why as a healer, you should be behind your team to see everyone lol And not sticking 1 m away from the tank.
lol, lmao even.
I gotta say though, excluding the first round, the mora played pretty decent/good for a bronze player, especially in OT
I hate their fades as Moria. Almost every time they fade, they go in a weird circle pattern and then end up in the same exact place that they faded from to begin with. Stop doing that, think about where you want to fade to. Thinking about where you want to fade to will force you to think and learn about the map and where cover is, as well as force you to think about how far your fade can go.
I really wish I could drop to bronze 5 just to see how fun those lobbies are.
Theyre not fun bro. At least not as a support.
@@windfarer4497his point was it would be a stomp fest which would be fun.
@@windfarer4497 just pick kiriko and start two tapping the entire lobby
@@artiscool6873 I do.
What makes it unfun is when a rando team mates make goofy calls and/or tilt when I don't TP to them in a certain death situation.
Bro it's so depressing if you actually want to win, your entire record is basically dependent on the distribution of 3-4 braindead afk people who may be on your team or the other team. Sombras putting TP in spawn, Widows that go 4-9, Torbs that somehow have less damage than supports, Moiras who can't aim like this one... you'll yeet yourself off a junkpile after some time there in support because even though you can carry your team will still outweigh you
There is no way to justify your team being the problem if you’re hard stuck in the lowest rank in the game. Major self reflection is needed at that point.
7:00 I periodically come back to see this moment whenever I need a quick laught to cheer myself up lmao, poor orisa 😂
This Moira healing the floor or walls more than their team is crazy….
What a swell treat!!!
A video to watch between calls
I'm so sorry you have to deal with calls lol I was sick yesterday so I didn't have to deal with a meeting so at least my day is just regular work
@@sethescope eh it’s all good, I like my job, the entertainment during the downtimes while I’m doing paperwork tho? Super awesome
I’ve played 500+ hours of Moira, and I can definitely now tell the difference between someone who is a Moira enthusiast, and someone who just wants to use Moira to get out of Bronze.
Three guesses as to which of those categories this guy falls into.
(As for the progression system, I have level 16 on Moira so far!)
I'm around that same progression level, I love playing moira (the vast majority of my overwatch career has been spent playing as moira)
I think one of the main problems here is that 50% of the time the moira tries to heal a teammate they're already full hp. Like you can see the overhealth on orisa and they're still healing
I think it would be interesting to see a high rank controller bingo and see what's different between controller and pc high ranks! And maybe you could try to tell what rank the controller player would be on pc.. if that makes.. any sense..?
i get so many tanks recently that just flat out throw the game and switch to hog because they died ONCE after overcommitting and not getting healed (they were out of los or antid) and as a support main this is so annoying
Not only is emongg hilarious his chat makes me laugh a lot too
18:22 so with this situation that happened. Moira should have kept Orisa a bit higher ( of course discord makes it hard but that’s exactly why you need to keep them up.) BUT the tank didn’t back up when they were supposed too. Half the team was at spawn. Moira tried to fall back as now the Orisa and Moria will be focused harder. But the Orisa ran in (and even when fleeing ran toward enemy spawn?) so I think both were at fault but for different reasons.
When discord is involved I pretty much have to heal bot. Discord literally blows the tank up otherwise. I go Ana or Bap specifically because I can keep LOS with my tank and just look slightly past them to throw a nade at the enemy to put pressure or shoot them or something. So it easier for me to heal bot to counter discord while still doing a little bit of pressure. Moira isn’t terrible for bronze in this case but discord really doesn’t give you time to recharge your heals.
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My biggest question is how are you hard stuck bronze 5 as Moira?
hate to say it but moira is literally a handicap character.. like you don't even need to aim so i genuinely do not understand how you get hardstuck bronze 5 with her 😭
@ethann907 well it also factors in the amount of loses you got. so if the last 5 cards you went like 5 - 16, then the next set of cards you go 5 - 0, those loses still don't disappear. so you probably SHOULD be in bronze 5.. unfortunately.
@ethann907bronze 5 is very deep. keep track of the percentage of players who you're more highly ranked than and that's how you'll see improvement in your ranking. the fact of the matter is that, if you truly play like a higher bronze player, then you will get there eventually. it can take time, don't get me wrong, and it can be frustrating to keep grinding and waiting for it to happen when you think you deserve it. but it will happen eventually if you truly do deserve the higher rank. this is a tough truth that I'm working on relearning so I get that it's hard to sit with.
You should do a bingo card like this for Master/GM lobby I just want to see the diff haha
As someone who was in gold just a few months ago and is now diamond and climbing, the using fade all the time for useless movement, mostly using heal orb, not “aiming” the dmg orbs, not helping dps get kills and only focusing on damaging enemy tank are all things I used to do and started ranking up only playing Moira as soon as I stopped doing them. Good luck climbing up!
Even in diamond I stay on cart as the tank because I dont trust my teammates to stay on it in overtime
You should do a Bronze Bingo in higher ranks to see how much of it really is just "Bronze" behavior
As a Moira Main, I always bounce the orb against the walls, especially in small rooms or narrow corridors. Even bounce it off the floors over for extra heals close up. Also, more or less hold down right click completely, and occasionally 360 left click before holding down the right click again. The left click healing is heal over time like Ana.
I find that the hardest thing for me as a support main (I don't play other roles, I'm terrified of them) is finding synergy with my team. Sometimes I get a team that I can work with, other times I just can't and I'm usure if it's my lack of skill in the game, or lack of skill in adapting to others play style. Or if my teammates are actually just bad lol! I think it's my lack of skill though if I'm going to be completely honest.
I think the best tip is learning to focus on yourself more than your team. Like where can you do damage, or are the enemies close enough to kill you. Having a general idea of where your team is to heal them should be almost second nature it should be the easiest part
what do you mean when you say a team you can work with/can't work with? what does that look like? genuinely curious, maybe I can give tips if I have a better idea of the problem
As a support main, i'm triggered by the way this person manage their ability (healer moira btw). Fade, orb, even ulting, they kinda not know what they are doing, especially targeting priority targets like low health bastion at the beginning, or pharah when she's half. Throwing orb without utilizing environment, plus keep holding healing spray make healing uptime not optimized (not mentioning their aim is bad, even when healing teammate)
this moira also has a bad habit of dealing dmg when they should be healing. multiple times over i do see the moira sending dmg orbs and using biotic grasp on the enemies in front of the tank as the tank is right in front of them on critical health. while yes dmg orbs are useful for ult charge as a support you should be trying to keep your tank up over dealing dmg
16:52 that was an alt-tab, the snap of the camera is something that happens when you do it.
i always do it stationary. does it make me look sus? probably, am i actually? i'm gold 3 and i play projectile classes, so i'm not.
The music and card is world class
emongg just reinforced my normal argument to "no heals" with this video. i always say "cant fix stupid" in response to my tank/dps being idiots
Funny seeing that SuperEpps or whatever his user was in chat within the first minute complaining about what the content was (saying “you never play the game just so mediocre reaction vods”) and then seeing him in chat every 5 minutes commentating after that 💀 I guess he wanted to watch after all
"Randomly AFK" should just be the Free Space.
6:50 hate when that happens. Your tanks decides to go hug them 1v5 while your team is dead and you're both in the open with no cover for you. I always struggle to choose, heal them and most certainly die to some random shit or just let them die😅 Either way they're gonna push, no tank is no tank
The fancy card still has the typo on "Everyone Stacks on OBJECTIVE" :)
That I feel that orisa ulting and dying should count as low because tanks health bigger than anyone so being below half is like legit low health for an ult
stuck at bronze 5 i’m sobbing 💀 my first placement for support EVER was gold 2 and i’ve only gone up
Also shoutout to Soldier player at 14:06 for their name. Most cultured person in Bronze 5 for sure
Ok they need to triple their sensitivity at least, and start looking around more actively, they somehow manage to miss heals on hug distance tank and can't find Pharah right above, there's definitely either low sensitivity issue or some kind of mental stuckage happening. Move that mouse around 🙃
If you're "hardstuck" in bronze 5 playing Moira, it's because you belong in Bronze 5.
Genji was popping off
Moira just keeps only trying to damage the Orisa, even going so far as to pour all of their ult into the enemy Orisa. If they just learned target priority for the dmg or just used some sense with their dmg orbs then everything would improve.
one time when i was playin my internet went off for a sec and i just fell of the map on purpose cuz i was laggin and be like "whateva"
but the game didnt think i was laggin and showed me how i fell of the map (it was on illios)
MORE BINGO PLEASE
stuck bronze 5 with moira is wild
My jaw was on the floor this entire video
Tank has 2 jobs 1 control the enemy tank 2 create openings for DPS to roll
I read the whole thumbnail amazing
If they would have bounced the prb L&R they could have probably saved their tank near the beginning of second half
Moira can hard carry herself out of Bronze. She's always to blame if she's stuck lol
Is the OP playing on PC with a switch controller? Imagine him playing a character other than Moira...
I'm ngl I feel like this moira tries to commit too hard on the dps support bit they forget they're a healer a third of the time
Im actually kinda upset that at no point he talked about their AWFUL positioning. Multiple times he was in the middle of the open and got absolutely rolled for it.
Idk about y'all, but pretty sure life weaver didnt pull the orisa once. I can forgive him using tree to block orisa ult instead of Petal, but pull the tank please! Lol
I stand corrected. He pulled Orisa once, into a wall and didn't move her at all lol.
Is there a way to avoid getting caught on the map? I still do that one even in diamond. I can't walk backwards for the life of me 🥴
If you’re playing Moira in bronze and still can’t climb, you’re the problem 🤣
Emongg says "best Moira ult so far". I see a low health Phara at 25:48 being completely ignored as an easy beam kill..
he’s just not being too harsh on low rank players, they don’t know who to target really and (even if it still wasn’t good) ulting the squishies was, indeed, better.
He said it was the best one yet, not that it was a good one.
It’s the tank chess match sometimes
18:12 They really need to learn to bounce their orbs. Bouncing this orb and the one before between the walls would've won them the fight.
Orisa spin would have eaten it though no?
That Moira gameplay was just... weird. Like... why would anyone use those cooldowns in that order at those times? Bronze players, man.
I get why she went into the back line at the start. She felt like it was gonna the payload was gonna get stuck at that choke and wanted shit to happen.
Yes, but you dont hard commit with no resource like they did.
You split you're attention by either:
A) Throwing a damage orb to disrupt and distract the backline before retreating for peel.
B) Leaving your team with a heal orb, and peaking the door and to hold that flank until your heal orb runs out or your need to fade.
Even with resource, its very unlikely youll be able to pick a squishy before getring dropped yourself or needing to fade out.
@@windfarer4497 Gorl idgaf
The editor THO
This guy doesn't bounce orbs off the walls, misses with the spray healing wastes the fade to go around a corner, bad positioning where they take THEMSELF out of LOS to dps, has mixed results using their ult at best
But the worst thing is they don't seem to realise how little damage Moira does if they aren't using the orb as well, attacking a gold orisa instead of the dps/support is the equivalent of doing nothing
Average dps moira that deserves bronze
If you are stuck in bronze then you have absolutely no mechanical skill 😂 ESPECIALLY ON MOIRA!!!
Rare to see a Moira who can't aim, as Moira.
Throw orb before ult
Yay bingo is back!!