literally😂😂, where’s the dip exactly? let that wilt be on my trash ass wizards we winnin the chip EVERYEAR😭, actually put that wilt on any team. they winning🤧
That’s funny Andy said “2007, we all remember it.” when he was talking about Dirk but in reality in 2007 half of NBA Twitter and the people watching this video were busy being born and learning how to walk and talk and eat solid food lmao
Ah yes. 2007. I remember it well. Warriors and Mavericks. The mavs demolished everyone in the regular season to an astounding 67 wins. Dirk put up some incredible numbers: 24 PPG, 9 RPG, while having one of the most efficient shooting seasons ever. 50% from the field, 42% from 3 and 90% from the free throw line. Only to get bounced by the 8th seeded warriors. Luckily Dirk would get revenge a few years later in 2011.
@@macewbee Don Nelson coached Dirk for years and knew the mavs system so he exploited it just like the Tampa Bay Bucs wit Jon Gruden blew the doors off MVP Rich Gannon and the raiders cause Jon Gruden knew the teams scheme and playbook
Eating my lunch scrolling through yt to look for a basketball video to watch and this notification pops up coincidentally at the exact moment, thanks Andy
He didn’t want it . He said in a interview after getting knock out the first round he was in bed for like weeks . He didn’t even want to come accept then mvp at that moment .
giannis didnt collapse in the playoffs, rather the team did. The bucks were a threat because of giannis and his paint dominance and becasue of that the wall was made by nick nurse in 2019. But the issue with the wall was that it usually left spots on the perimiter open. Giannis knew when to not score because of 2019 so he used his body was a way to drive in and cause open spots on the floor and dish it out to players there. The main issue with this bucks team was its shooting. Brogdon wasnt there, moritic wasnt there, lopez and bledsoe were inefficient. The only true shooters to rely on were middleton and hill unlike today where there are shooters on the team. Giannis only had one bad game in that playoffs with was game 3
Excuses, that's nothing. Stop trying to cover Giannis's faults. That's one of the reasons he's severely over rated now. The Heat were slept on by dawn near everyone and they had the Bucks number. Yannis just lost, there's nothing wrong with that, it happens to everyone.
@@younglove3362 no of course im not discrediting the heats run, but there were several issues with the bucks offense which cant be left out the conversation. Again the heat didnt get because they beat an unlucky bucks team, they beat them by revealing their weaknesses
The second clip you showed of The Admiral is the one that looks all too familiar lol. And as a lifelong Hakeem/Rockets fan I’ll happily watch it over and over. Great vid as always!
2010 Bron easily. Averaged 18 points on 33% the last 3 games vs Celtics and lost a 2-1 lead. Cavs were favored to make the finals that year and the year before.
2007-2008 Mavs lost all their matchup with the Warriors during the regular season. Biggest reason why is coach Don Nelson. He knew all of Dirk's weakness and exposed them all in the first rd. Dirk would eventually erase all those doubts in 2011, where all of their matchups they were underdogs.
Man, Dirk must have been in so much pain (psychologically), previous year (2006) he lost to the Miami Heat in the finals while the Mavericks had a 2-0 lead and in 2007, he underperformed against the Warriors and they lost 4-2 in the first round. But, he overcame it and in 2011 him and the team won perhaps one of the toughest championships against Miami's superteam.
That Heat team was no super team. Most of those high caliber players were past their prime. The 2005 team was much better. We lost to the Pistons because all their home games were officiated in favor for them. I would complain, but in honesty, we got favorably against both, the Heat and Mavericks in 2006. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see suspect officiating. P.S. Yes, Dirk was hurt because the officiating robbed him of a ring but it also didn't kill him, resulting in making him stronger in 2011. I knew that if the Mavericks were in the finals that our Heat would be in trouble. Lightning 🌩 doesn't strike twice.
I'm surprised I didn't see Jokic here, but I'm not complaining. He's out there playing 1v5 at this point. 2 years straight too, because he's winning back to back MVP
I think I know where you got this idea from. The TNT guys were talking about jokic being an MVP and how he has to do more than being swept in the 1st rd. I thought it was kinda harsh because the dude got 37 18 and 5.
It ain't fair. Jokic himself has definitely showed up all series, but with Poole playing the way he's playing next to a full strength Steph, Draymond, and Klay, he's essentially facing a team with the firepower of the KD era Warriors alone. He's had zero help this series, his second best player in Gordon has shit the bed all series long
Lebron in 2010. The Cavs were favored to win against the Celtics, but the Cavs had no answers. Lebron was held 3 of 14 shooting in game 5 and 8 of 21 shooting in game 6.
lebron choked horribly vs the celtics in 08 and 10, while also losing as the heavy favorite in 09. but people like to act like this era never happened.
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 in 08, lebrons first 4 games vs the celtics were pretty bad but then the last 3 games he popped off, in 09 you cant really say he choked when his averages are 38.5/8/8 because orlando knew they couldnt stop lebron from anywhere, it was more of a lack of support from his teammates as orlando had the highest defensive rating that year
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 context matters that Cavs team he had around him was terrible and lebron averaged 30 in the series against Orlando most of the guys he played with like mo Williams or delonte west didn’t have an answer for reshard Lewis or Jameer Nelson and to be honest in 2008, lebron was great enough to get that series against Boston to 7 games with a celts team that had KG ray allen and Paul pierce 2010 you can say was his fault but once again the players around him didn’t help but the Celtics also exposed him in that series for not being a consistent jump shooter
I just love how wilt increases his rebound to 30rpg which is 8 more then his career meanwhile only dipping 1.5ppg considering he was playing the greatest defender of all time that's not bad? And his fg% was still above 50. His blocks aren't on a stat sheet but had 7 blocks per game in that series. So how did wilt underpreform? And his 2 all star teammate who played 46 minutes score half as many points as wilt and also let's not forget who's he competing for rebounds bill fucing russel also having 3 all star doesn't match 3 hofs where 1 is averaging 25 boards and other 2 are scoring 25+ per game.
The MVP usually doesn't make or win the finals. The MVP has won the title I think 23 times in a 75 year league. I really don't think Curry belongs on the list for making the finals, reaching game 7, and averaging 22 being double and triple teamed on an injured knee and losing to a top 2 all time player. He got them there and his team played poorly around him despite him soaking up the defense. So the 73-9 warriors as a whole definitely disappointed, but the MVP? Nah. He didn't play terrible given the circumstances, and if the expectation is that the MVP needs to win the title, this video would be an hour long. At some point it's a team sport. Side note: did you drop this video now because you don't want to write and film a new section about Joker later this year? Lol
Ok We can give curry a little pass for the injury but still he had his worst playoff performances in 2016 I get it they still made the finals but that was because of Klay and Draymond bailing him out had they won the finals Draymond woulda been Finals MVP
Nah, he just knows Joker aint winning vs GSW, just 2 hof vs 1 is already unfair, especiall if the 2 have another 1 + an all-star ( not worth to be starter, but he deff ballin' and on all-star lvl ) + the new splash bro and other eole players on the bench, while Joker has.... yeah, imma let you figure it out, because aint nobody know anybody, and if they do its because Jokic gave them a nonmissable assist or they are someone who deserved 2 dunking contests to win. Thats about it😄
There are always 29 other violins playing while one team gets the chip. (Almost) nobody ever gets what they believe they deserve. "If only..." is the #1 topic in most sports commentary.
@@nicholausbell2749 See but when your 'worst' playoff performance is almost identical to any other year statistically (seriously, look it up, the numbers aren't different than any other year, almost identical to how he played in 2018), and his worst series is something like 22/5/5, it still isn't really a choke. People simultaneously say that Curry doesn't show up in the playoffs and hold him to higher expectations than anybody besides Lebron in the playoffs. I don't see much OKC or Houston on this list and those MVPs couldn't even make the finals, but Curry is literally just four points a rebound and an assist below his playoff average 26/6/5 IN THE FINALS AGAINST THE EAST FAVORITES and it's a "choke". There are MVPs with first and second round exits, MVPS losing to 8 seeds, MVPs getting stunned by teams nobody thought had title chances, MVPs putting up role player numbers for a series, I don't get how people think making the finals, losing to the team everybody thought would make the finals and challenge them, and averaging like 22/5/4 or whatever it was in the 7 game series is in the same category. It straight up isn't lmao.
I have to defend Malone in 97. A big reason for his drop in numbers and efficiency was his right hand. It was messed up pretty bad and he had a wound that wouldn't stay closed up long enough to get through a game in the finals. Every time he'd dunk he'd look at it - and those were few and far between.
The Malone MVP is rightly slammed because Jackie McMullen and other reporters admitted they voted for him because they were bored of voting for Jordan. It's why sympathy MVPs hurt even great players. No one remembers Malone's subsequent MVP in 1999 either. It's almost too bad for him, but again shows why narrative or sympathy MVP votes need to stop.
@@DeezNuts-ei2oz Agreed on 99 should have gone to Mourning or Duncan. And Malone is a scumbag for whoever pointed that out. Wasn't counting his personal life but yeah that too. Voters need to just stop placing their votes for dumb reasons.
Joel Embiid finally fits into this video. He was the leading scorer in the regular season, won mvp, but then had an atrocious game 7 performance against the Celtics. Im a Sixers fan, but Joel did really play so abysmal
@@sakamoto8354 not when you consider they had a buy and the only series he played in then in the East was playing against Bill Russell, the best defender and rebounder of that time alongside Wilt.
this season is a rebirth for Towns and the Wolves. KAT lost a crazy amount of family to covid, tried to play through it, and unfortunately the result was a really bad season. This year everything has gone their way, (compared to past Timberwolves teams anyway,) and I see this as the shape of things to come. If Minnesota wins even ONE playoff series, it will be a successful season by their standards.
@@OmarWkbari Not taking only 4 shots a game 😂. He plays like that they are losing this series. No supposed number 1 player on a team should take only 4 shots especially when he hit 3 of them lmao, he's good in the regular season and that's it, has no fire.
pathetic clickbait video. How is 2016 a collapse ? Multiple Injuries, a bogus suspension and a very long season, It ain't no collapse to loose in a Game 7 in the Finals.
This is such a wrong video Andy. Playoffs basketball is not the regular season. Most MVP's would see their number drop during the post season. The game slows down, and defenses focus more in the star player. But saying that Wilt averaging 28 and 30 is "crumbling" bruh
He also said that Dirk is known for choking in the playoffs when he’s one of the four big men to average 25 pts 10 rebounds in the playoffs. Most players number drop in the playoffs, dirks number increased.
It's pretty obvious Curry is just in there for the views. That finals series (controversial one) was a disappointment, but they made the finals and he didn't play terribly enough to call it a collapse. I understand calling 2007 Dirk a collapse, but 2016 Curry not so much
Good thing it’s a regular season award too!! And the votes were already in before the playoffs started!! And also, this years playoffs have already been a blast and it’s only one week in!!
Robinson had little to no help. For someone who was actually there, in the playoffs he was constantly triple teamed. I remember that season Rodman really pissed me off, literally just baiting for rebounds and clogging up space
@@EndietheEnderman That series….all of Houston’s role players performed amazing defense and hit timely shots as they were supposed to. Clyde was leagues better than the Spurs second option Sean Elliot. Robinson was left on an island bc Terry Cummins refused to play D and Rodman was holding out and stat padding. Watch the actual games and you’ll see. The games were much closer than what the narrative is pushing.
2020 Giannis one doesnt count to be honest, it was the bubble. Everyone was out for for 3 months and trapped in bubble, most of them doesn't even want to be there.
It’s because in the playoffs those players get double teamed an since they can’t pass aswell as a guard(with a few exceptions) it leads to turnovers or their offense getting shut down
Then in hindsight all of MVP award should be lebron and MJ. We all know they are the best player in their prime. For example Lebron peak at 06 then regressed in 2021(injury) How many MVP he should win. atleast 15?
@@justinholland6132 they were criteria fool. For like 35 years you should have been a top 4 seed in your conference while being impactful with greats stats. History just showed us that.
Lebron with his two consecutives MVPs in Cleveland and lost to two different teams. That or Magic in 1989, he won, but he failed in the NBA finals against Detroit.
2007 (2006 as well) was one of my worst years as a fan when Dirk’s soul was ripped off by these gritty and tough Warriors led by Baron Davis! It still stings me but at least Dirk rebounded in 2011!
Poor Malone, the only one on this list who never won a ring despite chasing one his final season in probably the most stacked starting 5 of all-time with 4 future HOFers and an interchangeable piece at SF.
i remember Shaq was mad about it. Robinson is the second superstar that comes to my mind about constantly underperforming in the play offs behind only Karl Malone.
Cap. Robinson played and scored 71pts in his own right to win scoring title. Let's not try to put false narrative on the Great Admiral. Keep that energy on LeBron because he jumped to teams to form Super team to win championships and saved his playoff legacy
A video made with sole purpose to anticipate Jokic's early playoff exit. The league better announce that MVP today or hours before Nuggets' 4th game, otherwise he'd be annihilated by the internet trolls and Embiid's stans even further since they're always oblivious to the fact that it was Reguler season MVP, not offseason. Feels bad for the Joker.
If the sixers would loose the 1at round against the Raptors and Joel Embiid won the MVP this year then he should include on this list. 😅 P.S. Nikola Jokic should also include on this list. He'd won the MVP but got swept by the Suns on 2nd round last year
But the thing is this is a REGULAR SEASON award for a reason. I understand you would think this means they’d be good in the playoffs too but it’s a different game.
Thats why the MVP is a regular SEASON award not a post season award. Mvps dont usually win the nba title in the same year it really hard to. They dont disappoint its just their team wasnt good enough.
I love this video and many of the rest but this one don't count cuz we all noticed they started giving these type of awards to players on teams that are real good but not scheduled to win it all that year so that other city's get a sort of compensation for not winning overall good for all parties and entities involved
For your next video, explain the biggest disappointment of the Lakers this season. They were expected to win the title but failed to make the playoffs.
Dramatic af when you talk about how bad they were in the playoffs but the stats aren't that far off from the regual season. it's a ok video but that dramatic bs made me put a dislike
wilt shouldn't be on here because he still put up monster numbers in the playoffs but other than that everyone else is justifiable. MVPs shoudn't drop off in the playoffs and if anything they should be playing better because the playoffs is where they'll get the chance to prove they're worthy of that mvp by leading their team to a championship.
in a way i guess you can put lebrons 2010 season as well even tho his stats are roughly the same as the regular season but the last 3 games vs the celtics before he got eliminated he played poorly
I knew Dirk would be brought up just by reading the title. I just wanted to point out that the statement “Dirk chokes in the playoffs” is false, Dirk is one of the few big men that averaged a career 25 pts 10 rebounds in the playoffs. That’s like saying prime Tmac chokes in the playoffs cause he couldn’t get pass the first round, tmac actually has really good numbers in the playoffs.
I already know the 2016 golden state warriors cannot be considered as an all time great team the way how they cared about the record but blow a 3-1 series lead lol
Westbrook and Harden, even if the numbers dont, they both in every PO when the team needs them, Harden hide in a corner and West is a pure brick shooter
“Wilt collapsed in the playoffs” drops 28 points and 30 REBOUNDS!
literally😂😂, where’s the dip exactly? let that wilt be on my trash ass wizards we winnin the chip EVERYEAR😭, actually put that wilt on any team. they winning🤧
I died too 😭🤣 bro
@@bariskaratas1063 they put him on a loaded lakers squad and he got beat every single finals until he was past his prime in ‘72
wilt chamberlain did not exist he’s an urban legend everyone has stories but nobody ever seen him fr
I swear😭
That’s funny Andy said “2007, we all remember it.” when he was talking about Dirk but in reality in 2007 half of NBA Twitter and the people watching this video were busy being born and learning how to walk and talk and eat solid food lmao
Or doing that Soulja Boy
Ah yes. 2007. I remember it well. Warriors and Mavericks. The mavs demolished everyone in the regular season to an astounding 67 wins. Dirk put up some incredible numbers: 24 PPG, 9 RPG, while having one of the most efficient shooting seasons ever. 50% from the field, 42% from 3 and 90% from the free throw line. Only to get bounced by the 8th seeded warriors. Luckily Dirk would get revenge a few years later in 2011.
True because the warriors had don nelson baskelly told them his weakness.
SMH first round upset by warriors in 2007 but if Mavs face the warriors this year’s playoffs, it’s on and ready for the big payback
@@macewbee Don Nelson coached Dirk for years and knew the mavs system so he exploited it just like the Tampa Bay Bucs wit Jon Gruden blew the doors off MVP Rich Gannon and the raiders cause Jon Gruden knew the teams scheme and playbook
Super
Lol
I lost $1000 on this series
But I got it back when they beat the heat
@@nicholausbell2749 Yes, to add to that, Mavs coach Avery Johnson was also his assistant when he was there. Don Nelson knew everything about them.
Eating my lunch scrolling through yt to look for a basketball video to watch and this notification pops up coincidentally at the exact moment, thanks Andy
The exact same thing just happened to me
Same thing except I’m fasting so ion get lunch 😊
ah the classic all I need is 10 mins to eat video. Andy on the clutch.
@@Demi-kid Fr the vibe is to special📺
The press con presenting Dirk with the MVP was so awkward. Dirk didn’t look like he wanted any part of it and Cuban literally cried. 😂
He didn’t want it . He said in a interview after getting knock out the first round he was in bed for like weeks . He didn’t even want to come accept then mvp at that moment .
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giannis didnt collapse in the playoffs, rather the team did. The bucks were a threat because of giannis and his paint dominance and becasue of that the wall was made by nick nurse in 2019. But the issue with the wall was that it usually left spots on the perimiter open. Giannis knew when to not score because of 2019 so he used his body was a way to drive in and cause open spots on the floor and dish it out to players there. The main issue with this bucks team was its shooting. Brogdon wasnt there, moritic wasnt there, lopez and bledsoe were inefficient. The only true shooters to rely on were middleton and hill unlike today where there are shooters on the team. Giannis only had one bad game in that playoffs with was game 3
Excuses, that's nothing. Stop trying to cover Giannis's faults. That's one of the reasons he's severely over rated now. The Heat were slept on by dawn near everyone and they had the Bucks number. Yannis just lost, there's nothing wrong with that, it happens to everyone.
@@younglove3362 no of course im not discrediting the heats run, but there were several issues with the bucks offense which cant be left out the conversation. Again the heat didnt get because they beat an unlucky bucks team, they beat them by revealing their weaknesses
all that just to dick ride lmao
@@younglove3362 The Bucks got their revenge the season after by sweeping the Miami Heat.
Giannis fanboy
The second clip you showed of The Admiral is the one that looks all too familiar lol. And as a lifelong Hakeem/Rockets fan I’ll happily watch it over and over. Great vid as always!
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Another Saturday another Andy video!! A lot of these guys just didn’t have the team to compete and just fell apart!!
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2010 Bron easily. Averaged 18 points on 33% the last 3 games vs Celtics and lost a 2-1 lead. Cavs were favored to make the finals that year and the year before.
I agree that one’s up there but you can’t top dirks collapse, 50-40-90, 67 wins and beat in 6 by the 8th seed.
@@mattmmixes yessire, maybe lebron is goin to fit in another episode
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Ah 2010 where the term LeQuit started.
*Fun fact:* Dirk’s MVP year was the second of FIVE straight 50/40/90 seasons (with the other four by Steve Nash).
Rewrite this
This doesnt make any sense dude lol
Even more fun: How a jumble of confused syntax got 50-something thumbs up in under two hours.
So dirk did it 5 times or Nash did it 5 times?? Or are you saying both combined?? I’m confused
Okay y'all I figured it out: Dirk's MVP year was the second of FIVE straight 50/40/90 seasons (with the other four by Steve Nash).
We can put Embiid on this list because despite winning his first MVP he couldn't get past the second round again blowing a 3-2 lead against Boston.
Fun fact: the league MVP hasn't won the championship in 7 years
Additional fun fact the last one to do so was Steph Curry in 2015
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More fun fact: it's been 9 years since someone won mvp and fmvp in the same season
@@TheMVPSteveNash lebron 2013?
Lol curry won a hospital ring Kyrie and love were injured and lebron pushed the 67 win warriors to 6 with make a wish kids
Dirk in 2007 immediately came to mind
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For tho Dirk in 2007 absolutely came to mind and it’s really unfortunate to him that he got swept before he received that MVP award
They weren’t swept ?
They lost in 6 games.
The bad part was it was to the 8th seed
Imagine if Lebron or kobe lost to an 8th seed
Lmao they weren’t swept. But I get the confusion since Jokic and the Nuggets are about to be. 😂
The Warriors did not get pushed to 7 games, the Thunder lost 3-1 lead.
2007-2008 Mavs lost all their matchup with the Warriors during the regular season. Biggest reason why is coach Don Nelson. He knew all of Dirk's weakness and exposed them all in the first rd. Dirk would eventually erase all those doubts in 2011, where all of their matchups they were underdogs.
Man, Dirk must have been in so much pain (psychologically), previous year (2006) he lost to the Miami Heat in the finals while the Mavericks had a 2-0 lead and in 2007, he underperformed against the Warriors and they lost 4-2 in the first round. But, he overcame it and in 2011 him and the team won perhaps one of the toughest championships against Miami's superteam.
That Heat team was no super team. Most of those high caliber players were past their prime. The 2005 team was much better. We lost to the Pistons because all their home games were officiated in favor for them. I would complain, but in honesty, we got favorably against both, the Heat and Mavericks in 2006. I'd be lying if I said I didn't see suspect officiating.
P.S. Yes, Dirk was hurt because the officiating robbed him of a ring but it also didn't kill him, resulting in making him stronger in 2011. I knew that if the Mavericks were in the finals that our Heat would be in trouble. Lightning 🌩 doesn't strike twice.
@@younglove3362 the heat was a superteam stop cut it out liar 😂
I'm surprised I didn't see Jokic here, but I'm not complaining. He's out there playing 1v5 at this point. 2 years straight too, because he's winning back to back MVP
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All right another great Andy Hoops Saturday video YESSIR
Today I learned prime Hakeem was a savage😂😂😂
Thought u would kno
Lebron James 2010 when he is in cleveland. When the time he got defended by the celtics in 2nd round
I think I know where you got this idea from. The TNT guys were talking about jokic being an MVP and how he has to do more than being swept in the 1st rd.
I thought it was kinda harsh because the dude got 37 18 and 5.
It ain't fair. Jokic himself has definitely showed up all series, but with Poole playing the way he's playing next to a full strength Steph, Draymond, and Klay, he's essentially facing a team with the firepower of the KD era Warriors alone. He's had zero help this series, his second best player in Gordon has shit the bed all series long
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Another great video Thanks alot keep making great videos Godbless
Hakeem took it personally sheesh when David robinson won the mvp
Lebron in 2010. The Cavs were favored to win against the Celtics, but the Cavs had no answers. Lebron was held 3 of 14 shooting in game 5 and 8 of 21 shooting in game 6.
He might have excluded it bc of delonte west, but it should probably be here
lebron choked horribly vs the celtics in 08 and 10, while also losing as the heavy favorite in 09. but people like to act like this era never happened.
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 in 08, lebrons first 4 games vs the celtics were pretty bad but then the last 3 games he popped off, in 09 you cant really say he choked when his averages are 38.5/8/8 because orlando knew they couldnt stop lebron from anywhere, it was more of a lack of support from his teammates as orlando had the highest defensive rating that year
@@tylerwhitehorn5365 context matters that Cavs team he had around him was terrible and lebron averaged 30 in the series against Orlando most of the guys he played with like mo Williams or delonte west didn’t have an answer for reshard Lewis or Jameer Nelson and to be honest in 2008, lebron was great enough to get that series against Boston to 7 games with a celts team that had KG ray allen and Paul pierce 2010 you can say was his fault but once again the players around him didn’t help but the Celtics also exposed him in that series for not being a consistent jump shooter
Nobody expected LeBron to beat the Celtics. Stop it 🛑
I just love how wilt increases his rebound to 30rpg which is 8 more then his career meanwhile only dipping 1.5ppg considering he was playing the greatest defender of all time that's not bad? And his fg% was still above 50. His blocks aren't on a stat sheet but had 7 blocks per game in that series. So how did wilt underpreform? And his 2 all star teammate who played 46 minutes score half as many points as wilt and also let's not forget who's he competing for rebounds bill fucing russel also having 3 all star doesn't match 3 hofs where 1 is averaging 25 boards and other 2 are scoring 25+ per game.
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The MVP usually doesn't make or win the finals. The MVP has won the title I think 23 times in a 75 year league. I really don't think Curry belongs on the list for making the finals, reaching game 7, and averaging 22 being double and triple teamed on an injured knee and losing to a top 2 all time player. He got them there and his team played poorly around him despite him soaking up the defense.
So the 73-9 warriors as a whole definitely disappointed, but the MVP? Nah. He didn't play terrible given the circumstances, and if the expectation is that the MVP needs to win the title, this video would be an hour long. At some point it's a team sport.
Side note: did you drop this video now because you don't want to write and film a new section about Joker later this year? Lol
Ok We can give curry a little pass for the injury but still he had his worst playoff performances in 2016 I get it they still made the finals but that was because of Klay and Draymond bailing him out had they won the finals Draymond woulda been Finals MVP
Nah, he just knows Joker aint winning vs GSW, just 2 hof vs 1 is already unfair, especiall if the 2 have another 1 + an all-star ( not worth to be starter, but he deff ballin' and on all-star lvl ) + the new splash bro and other eole players on the bench, while Joker has.... yeah, imma let you figure it out, because aint nobody know anybody, and if they do its because Jokic gave them a nonmissable assist or they are someone who deserved 2 dunking contests to win. Thats about it😄
There are always 29 other violins playing while one team gets the chip. (Almost) nobody ever gets what they believe they deserve.
"If only..." is the #1 topic in most sports commentary.
@@nicholausbell2749 See but when your 'worst' playoff performance is almost identical to any other year statistically (seriously, look it up, the numbers aren't different than any other year, almost identical to how he played in 2018), and his worst series is something like 22/5/5, it still isn't really a choke. People simultaneously say that Curry doesn't show up in the playoffs and hold him to higher expectations than anybody besides Lebron in the playoffs. I don't see much OKC or Houston on this list and those MVPs couldn't even make the finals, but Curry is literally just four points a rebound and an assist below his playoff average 26/6/5 IN THE FINALS AGAINST THE EAST FAVORITES and it's a "choke".
There are MVPs with first and second round exits, MVPS losing to 8 seeds, MVPs getting stunned by teams nobody thought had title chances, MVPs putting up role player numbers for a series, I don't get how people think making the finals, losing to the team everybody thought would make the finals and challenge them, and averaging like 22/5/4 or whatever it was in the 7 game series is in the same category. It straight up isn't lmao.
No, Steph played like sh*t in the Finals. He was especially terrible in game 7. Completely folded.
I have to defend Malone in 97. A big reason for his drop in numbers and efficiency was his right hand. It was messed up pretty bad and he had a wound that wouldn't stay closed up long enough to get through a game in the finals. Every time he'd dunk he'd look at it - and those were few and far between.
Still don’t excuse for him choking the very next year in 1998.
The Malone MVP is rightly slammed because Jackie McMullen and other reporters admitted they voted for him because they were bored of voting for Jordan. It's why sympathy MVPs hurt even great players. No one remembers Malone's subsequent MVP in 1999 either. It's almost too bad for him, but again shows why narrative or sympathy MVP votes need to stop.
@@rexsmith9074 1999 MVP should have went to either Alonzo Mourning or Tim Duncan
13 years old
@@DeezNuts-ei2oz Agreed on 99 should have gone to Mourning or Duncan. And Malone is a scumbag for whoever pointed that out. Wasn't counting his personal life but yeah that too. Voters need to just stop placing their votes for dumb reasons.
Joel Embiid finally fits into this video. He was the leading scorer in the regular season, won mvp, but then had an atrocious game 7 performance against the Celtics. Im a Sixers fan, but Joel did really play so abysmal
This dude really said wilt underperformed while he averaged 28 and 30 LOL
😂😂😂
For Wilt's standards, he did underperformed.
@@sakamoto8354 not when you consider they had a buy and the only series he played in then in the East was playing against Bill Russell, the best defender and rebounder of that time alongside Wilt.
When he said, according to Kenny smith.. Hakeem told him…. “Kenny can you get me some water” LOL
That Hakeem O quote is one of the greatest quotes I ever heard lol.
I can already see Westbrook on this list. I just can. Sad for me as a russ fan
Facts bro waiting to hear his name right now
@@russellwestbrook051 that’s surprising I don’t hear his name here.
He hadn’t any option to make deep in the playoffs.. he won mvp willing the thunder to the 6th seed
curry was injured and they still made the finals with him having great games. that’s not collapsing
Cavs won down 3-1. Sounds like a collapse to me! Haha!
Pfftt😂 as usual, there's the curry fanbois who always defend their little stephanie
MVP = Most Valuable Player on a team, thus makes sense why a lot lose in the 1st rd because they are the most valuable player on a below average team.
A lot of MVPs don’t lose in the 1st rd. It’s only been 5 out of 66.
Most mvps are on good teams 🤷🏻♂️
MVP is supposed to be given to the best player (usually top 5 best in the league) in a top 5 team in its respective conference
@@hc8909 I feel like the mvp’s team while not bad are very heliocentric, so come playoff time all a team has to do is shut down that one player
@@ericf91 I feel like the mvp’s team while not bad are very heliocentric, so come playoff time all a team has to do is shut down that one player
You forgot LeBron in 2010. The Cavs should've defeated the Celtics that year.
but they didn’t lol wonder why
How bout bron in 2010? Clear difference of an mvp collapsing between his 09 and 2010 playoff performances.
Even if Denver exits the first round of 2022 playoffs. Nikola is still the MVP that didn't collapse Bec he has to carry Denver all season long
first comes to my mind was KAT.
Not the MVP, but after reading the *"then collapsed in the playoffs"*
The series is still 2-1 tho KAT still has a chance
this season is a rebirth for Towns and the Wolves. KAT lost a crazy amount of family to covid, tried to play through it, and unfortunately the result was a really bad season. This year everything has gone their way, (compared to past Timberwolves teams anyway,) and I see this as the shape of things to come. If Minnesota wins even ONE playoff series, it will be a successful season by their standards.
@@OmarWkbari Not taking only 4 shots a game 😂. He plays like that they are losing this series. No supposed number 1 player on a team should take only 4 shots especially when he hit 3 of them lmao, he's good in the regular season and that's it, has no fire.
pathetic clickbait video. How is 2016 a collapse ? Multiple Injuries, a bogus suspension and a very long season, It ain't no collapse to loose in a Game 7 in the Finals.
Still can’t believe Steve Nash would’ve gotten another MVP award , like that’s insane , but thank god he never got that 3rd MVP
4:19 it’s funny cause 25 pts on 60% is still such a good stat line still. Ofc he dipped but still he raised the bar pretty high
This is such a wrong video Andy. Playoffs basketball is not the regular season. Most MVP's would see their number drop during the post season. The game slows down, and defenses focus more in the star player. But saying that Wilt averaging 28 and 30 is "crumbling" bruh
He also said that Dirk is known for choking in the playoffs when he’s one of the four big men to average 25 pts 10 rebounds in the playoffs. Most players number drop in the playoffs, dirks number increased.
Hakeem "The Dream" 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
It's pretty obvious Curry is just in there for the views. That finals series (controversial one) was a disappointment, but they made the finals and he didn't play terribly enough to call it a collapse. I understand calling 2007 Dirk a collapse, but 2016 Curry not so much
He played bad but people don't want to see the reason is his injurie he didn't have his speed
they blew a 3-1 lead and curry was underwhelming that's a collapse.
Good thing it’s a regular season award too!! And the votes were already in before the playoffs started!! And also, this years playoffs have already been a blast and it’s only one week in!!
WTF does that have to do with the video at all?
KD is a habitual underperformer 😂
3:55 Wait a minute did Gregg Popovich played with Wilt ?
Maaan Gotta add Joel Embid now 😂😂
Robinson had little to no help. For someone who was actually there, in the playoffs he was constantly triple teamed. I remember that season Rodman really pissed me off, literally just baiting for rebounds and clogging up space
And what help did Olajuwon have. 95 is considered the biggest carry job in NBA history
@@EndietheEnderman That series….all of Houston’s role players performed amazing defense and hit timely shots as they were supposed to. Clyde was leagues better than the Spurs second option Sean Elliot. Robinson was left on an island bc Terry Cummins refused to play D and Rodman was holding out and stat padding.
Watch the actual games and you’ll see. The games were much closer than what the narrative is pushing.
Facts 💯
2020 Giannis one doesnt count to be honest, it was the bubble. Everyone was out for for 3 months and trapped in bubble, most of them doesn't even want to be there.
Dude stop
Wilt not only had Hal Greer and Chet Walker, but a young future star in Billy Cunningham
6:58
That's crazy. He made the playoffs every single season and still doesn't hold many (if any) all-time playoffs record.
Should have waited for next week to include Jokic
This video was a hit 🎯
Adam Silver looks sickly
@Andy Hoops
You should make a video about nba teams that floundered in the playoffs
One thing I’ve noticed is that most of the players in this video are PFs or centers.
It’s because in the playoffs those players get double teamed an since they can’t pass aswell as a guard(with a few exceptions) it leads to turnovers or their offense getting shut down
The biggest playoff collapse by a non big man was probably 2010 Lebron.
What do you guys think MVP should be? Best player or most valuable? I personally think it’s the best player!!
The MVP had solid criteria between 1981 and 2017…
Russel Westbrook winning in 2017 ended that.
Sadly
most valuable its literally in the name
@@yvans. there is no criteria
Then in hindsight all of MVP award should be lebron and MJ.
We all know they are the best player in their prime. For example Lebron peak at 06 then regressed in 2021(injury) How many MVP he should win. atleast 15?
@@justinholland6132 they were criteria fool.
For like 35 years you should have been a top 4 seed in your conference while being impactful with greats stats.
History just showed us that.
Lebron with his two consecutives MVPs in Cleveland and lost to two different teams.
That or Magic in 1989, he won, but he failed in the NBA finals against Detroit.
I get 2010, but him averaging damn near 40 PPG against the Magic in 2009 is him collapsing?
@@croagunkfan9024 Well, he lost.
@@hydeseaick2587 lost but didn’t collapse.
2007 (2006 as well) was one of my worst years as a fan when Dirk’s soul was ripped off by these gritty and tough Warriors led by Baron Davis! It still stings me but at least Dirk rebounded in 2011!
Poor Malone, the only one on this list who never won a ring despite chasing one his final season in probably the most stacked starting 5 of all-time with 4 future HOFers and an interchangeable piece at SF.
Tim Duncan saved Robinson's playoff legacy. Also that scoring title was tainted since they let him score so Shaq couldn't win.
i remember Shaq was mad about it.
Robinson is the second superstar that comes to my mind about constantly underperforming in the play offs behind only Karl Malone.
Cap. Robinson played and scored 71pts in his own right to win scoring title. Let's not try to put false narrative on the Great Admiral. Keep that energy on LeBron because he jumped to teams to form Super team to win championships and saved his playoff legacy
4:15 “Most dominant offensive season ever by efficiency.” I just we gonna ignore MJ’s 1988 and 1991 MVP seasons, Shaq’s 2000 MVP season.
Already know this video was inspired by Jokic.
how does the comparison make sense? regular reason mvp and playoff mvp ok? not apple to apple
Honestly that 2007 GSW could play in today's NBA
Don’t forget the mavs started 0-4 when they won 67 games. Could’ve maybe challenged the 72 game mark.
A video made with sole purpose to anticipate Jokic's early playoff exit. The league better announce that MVP today or hours before Nuggets' 4th game, otherwise he'd be annihilated by the internet trolls and Embiid's stans even further since they're always oblivious to the fact that it was Reguler season MVP, not offseason. Feels bad for the Joker.
Funny how the first three all got revenge next year
I wonder where’s westbrick?
Poole is an all star in the making
Make a video on mvp winners who won the title same year
Brian grant going at it with Malone niceeeee I loved grant when he was in Miami
What about Westbrook or Kareem?
It's actually pretty shameful to include Giannis here considering he played his a$$ off before getting hurt.
Giannis d rider
@@narutoxborutofanatic Watch game 4 again, genius.
If the sixers would loose the 1at round against the Raptors and Joel Embiid won the MVP this year then he should include on this list. 😅
P.S.
Nikola Jokic should also include on this list. He'd won the MVP but got swept by the Suns on 2nd round last year
Jaylen Brown next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
Imagine playing bad all playoffs and still making the finals
But the thing is this is a REGULAR SEASON award for a reason. I understand you would think this means they’d be good in the playoffs too but it’s a different game.
5:56 he actually said "I'm thirsty. Go get me a water"
Olajuwon is so underrated. He's definitely a top 10 all-time. Hurts to see so many people putting him out of the top 10.
Shutup bruh
Thats why the MVP is a regular SEASON award not a post season award. Mvps dont usually win the nba title in the same year it really hard to. They dont disappoint its just their team wasnt good enough.
the Malone-Stockton Jazz were the CP3 Clippers of the 90s-Demolishing the scene in the regular season only to disintegrate in the playoffs.
to true bc the at least the malone-stockton jazz could make it to the finals
At least that Jazz team made it into the finals unlike that Clippers team so the Jazz are a bit higher than the Clippers.
Why you didnt included Westbrook's 2017?
I love this video and many of the rest but this one don't count cuz we all noticed they started giving these type of awards to players on teams that are real good but not scheduled to win it all that year so that other city's get a sort of compensation for not winning overall good for all parties and entities involved
Ty
For your next video, explain the biggest disappointment of the Lakers this season. They were expected to win the title but failed to make the playoffs.
Why? It’s already been covered by so many other people
almost every mvp drop in stats in playoff its just different to regular season
Dramatic af when you talk about how bad they were in the playoffs but the stats aren't that far off from the regual season. it's a ok video but that dramatic bs made me put a dislike
wilt shouldn't be on here because he still put up monster numbers in the playoffs but other than that everyone else is justifiable. MVPs shoudn't drop off in the playoffs and if anything they should be playing better because the playoffs is where they'll get the chance to prove they're worthy of that mvp by leading their team to a championship.
in a way i guess you can put lebrons 2010 season as well even tho his stats are roughly the same as the regular season but the last 3 games vs the celtics before he got eliminated he played poorly
I knew Dirk would be brought up just by reading the title. I just wanted to point out that the statement “Dirk chokes in the playoffs” is false, Dirk is one of the few big men that averaged a career 25 pts 10 rebounds in the playoffs. That’s like saying prime Tmac chokes in the playoffs cause he couldn’t get pass the first round, tmac actually has really good numbers in the playoffs.
Do a 94-95 magic video
James harden and Russell Westbrook???
Andy please change the background music, please
Dirk by far for biggest disappointment. Got bounced in the first round.
@@juliothom2408 bro no one got mvp on the Lakers, they’re talking about disappointments who got mvp
I already know the 2016 golden state warriors cannot be considered as an all time great team the way how they cared about the record but blow a 3-1 series lead lol
To be fair Steph curry is hurt
Westbrook and Harden, even if the numbers dont, they both in every PO when the team needs them, Harden hide in a corner and West is a pure brick shooter
When I saw Wilt's stats, I had to stop watching. Imagine averaging those numbers and somebody still called it underperforming lol
He did underperformed but only when comparing to his legendary season stats.
For almost any other superstar we would say he played fine
When you have a drop off of 7 PPG, that's severely underperforming