Customer States Air Tool NO POWER!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Customer states the impact wrench he bought has NO POWER?! You need these high-flow air fittings! These performance air fittings will make your weak impact wrench or air tool very powerful! Mechanic air tool performance is about increasing air flow through the tool. TOOLS BELOW: ↓↓↓↓
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You realize your recommendation is the equivalent of telling a customer that if they're losing engine power due to bad oil...they should just press the gas pedal harder...right? That's all this is doing.
Increased airflow=greater power yes. Increased airflow also means more frequent maintenance which means that if you upsize your flow valves you should oil it twice as often...which they probably weren't doing frequently enough to begin with if they got power loss.
It's like saying "replace your air compressor with a stronger one." Yeah it'll get better results for a little while but mechanical parts have a fail point. I've had enough sears and walmart tire replacements roll in where the mechanic signed off "torqued to 120 ft/lbs" that I've literally bowed an 8 foot cheater bar trying to break loose with my 250 pound ass. More power does not mean better. Always stuck trying to figure out wtf that ass hole thought this person would do on the side of the road if they had a blowout. Your tire iron ain't breaking that loose.
Yeah wellllll....that takes alot of money to put them on all your sh*tty tools. An easier WAY less expensive way is to go to harbor freight and buy the high flow piece for the gun and it uses the same male connector on all of the hoses.
It's like 5 bucks for a while kit.
Also, look at the reels to see how they are connected as sometimes they use a whip hose and put one of them little connectors to it.....
The shame of it all.
I would rather just spend five bucks on oil and get my power back and save my gun from wearing out.
I hope the general public does not fall for the scam that it’s magically going to fix your air tool I think what you should advise oiling it and then The bigger end and I think those two combined would help but putting a bigger end on it is just gonna shorten the life of the air gun if you do not oil it
@@modificationnation8554 I couldn't agree more even though I do believe in better flow for everything.
But that is not a magic wand.
Just like turning up the pressure to 150 may help a tiny bit but if you got a piece of crap or worn out tool the only real fix is to buy a good tool. LOL
90% of the time if you have no power it’s because you need to oil the gun.
Just gonna say that
Yes! Also these Milton Vs aren't anything new. This guy is just trying to bs people. It's upsizing the 3/8 line fittings to a 1/2 valve size. Which while yes...will give more power...also means you're just beating the piss out of your tool that you can't be bothered to maintain...even harder. This would legitimately end up as a quicker tool death...not a power gain.
Now if you wanted to actually use the Vs to their max, be prepared to maintain your tools twice as often for that essentially pointless excess power. But hey...it's not my shop.
@@hamburbers air tools are so easy to rebuild as long as you have a quality tool like a cleco parts are cheap aswell long as you don't need body castings
@@angelseliteautodetailing he just saying not gonna be his problem when this hack fucks with the tools
@@kylekosztyo4767 or you can save yourself rebuilding the tool by using common sense and just maintaining them properly. If you're too lazy to simply refill the oil on pneumatic tools, you're probably too lazy to have them rebuilt.
Also make sure they are oiled!
Yes!!!
There’s a very good reason why ingersol recommends to oil daily. This is why.
@@mysticnick1 That's why I bought a quart of air tool oil when I bought my IR impact lol
If there old, run trans fluid through them, if there new make sure it's not on the low setting, and then run trans fluid through them anyway
Trans fat?
Hanza transmission fluid bro
You mean, ‘gender neutral fluid’ I’m sure.
@@HughWoo lol
Brake cleaner works better.
Spray it. Pull trigger.
Then re-oil it.
A 2235timax is rated at 6cfm. Dosen't matter how big your fittings are if your compressor isn't up to the task.
Very true my friend.
And the air hose
But the smaller the hose the more you are restricting it
Air tank after the compressor solves that issue, it will hold enough to supply 6cfm for a bit, until the tank pressure needs to rebuild from compressor. With a big enough air tank, you could have a very small cfm compressor. But bigger compressor builds pressure in tank faster, and bigger compressor better for high duty cycle air tool use, ie constant use like sandblasting.
@@connor3288 that would work for short spurts, but generally that over works the compressor. Air cooled compressors are designed to have cool down periods, adding extra volume causes longer run time, adding extra heat. Best practice is to buy a unit that fits the needs of the tools you use.
Remember though, when you increase flow, you decrease line pressure. Make sure you have appropriate new pressure settings from the pump when using.
Good point.
That statement is just totally incorrect. If the diameter of the pipe/fitting is increased, the pressure stays the same. The pressure drop when the medium (air or water) moves decreases actually. What you may have meant is that the flow rate decreases with larger inner diameters of the pipe/fitting.
@@WieEiPiehGuy If you're going to correct people then have better grammar.
You typed that out like you were in the middle of a goddamn stroke
Backwards compatible makes it worth a try. Good selling point, like "higher air flow but you also don't have to replace every fitting you own just to decide you dont like it." Genius
Should have mentioned to make sure you're entire air line is bigger,
If you have 1/2 air lines the whole way but have a single fitting that's 1/4, you'll only get the max flow from 1/4
Love you before and after shots where you hade the tool turned down to the lowest setting. And then the after where it was at the highest setting. Great demonstration in deceptive marketing.
Lol I'm not a liar. Try it you'll see the difference. Lol hard to tell on camera
@@MattsShop it’s clear as day you turned up the tool I don’t necessarily doubt that it increases power but show it on the same power setting
Also if you're buying a used gun, it's a good idea to pop the cover off and check for any oxidation on the parts you'll want to clean off with 600-800 grit sandpaper. After checking the veins move freely in their slots, reassemble and run some trans fluid through it as others have said and keep it oiled regularly.
I use swivels, don’t have those fittings. I have c style. Haven’t had a problem yet. And my pressure from tank is correct going through 100’ of air line.
My flow is great.
First thing I did 37 years ago when I was hired as a mechanic I change the piping fitting all the way back out the wall larger air hose with larger fitting air openings.
Remember the sitting at the other end of the hose connected to the wall is your other restriction that needs to be enlarged not just a fitting at the end of the hose that connects to the tool
He probably did the before part when the air compresser was half way full
When the tool said "ugga dugga" I felt that
My air impact has a rather thick layer of dust on it because I haven’t used it for several years. Cordless impacts are so much nicer. Those couplers are very important to use on sprayguns, you won’t have a proper spray pattern otherwise because the gun will be starving for air.
Been running these for years now. The purple ones. Massive difference
They don't believe me...
Got a 1,000ftlb impact from my brothers work. I have a light air compressor that MAYBE has 2cfm @ 90 psi. Connected a short 3/8 hose without a fitting on one end and a 3/8 (instead of 1/4) coupler and end on the impact. Night and day difference with little to no cost. Now, I could of just did a direct connection for maximum power. Short burst is all it takes to easily take off lug nuts
Love the Milton V’s!!!!
Plus their customer service is outstanding.
One of mine started to leak, contacted them and had a replacement at my house in a couple of days!
The Milton V fittings are the best I've used!
Yeeep I third the Milton V's
What is ptfe tape anyway right?
Yeah this'll work, good that's its backwards compatible so other people's airtools can still hook up without the new fitting.
You can also port the gun to flow more air through it, I'd imagine this'll (Milton fitting) only do so much since the gun itself is regulating airflow.
The backwards compatibility is the best!
Remove the impeller. Clean it. Old oil slows and removes punch over time. Use brake cleaner to remove residue. Apply light air tool oil to parts. It will be like a new tool.
Home Depot has high flow fittings. Home users, your compressor needs to be up to par ye
And both took about the same amount of time to remove the nut.
If the opening is bigger, the compressor has to kick on more often. Making it wareout faster. And most likely harder on the tools as well.
Lol I just love reading the comments you would think this 200 dollar air impact was a Nasa rocket. It's a tool people, use it, if you break it fix it. Me personally if I can get more performance from a tool I already have why would I not do so. Sure beats going out and buying a more expensive tool for even more money than a high flow air fitting would cost. Thank you for the tip I'm planning on giving it a try.
Yes this is fact I still have my air compressor and I still run v but I don't have an impact anymore but yeah it does really help with power also with short holes also with a bigger hose
I use Milton G-style, with a 1/2 hose. It's the best flow out there. I use it on my blast cabinet and impact gun.
I rebuild these at work because our opperators have no clue. You could probably do a quick video of oiling and vane maintenance... it's just as critical air flow itself. Doesn't matter how much air you ca deliver if you can't properly turn the vanes within!
These made all the difference with my 20 gallon oilless
YES!
Bigger hole works. I learned that a few years ago. It’s true.
Ha!
It’s called a high-flo fitting. They make them in generic version to.
Milton is very high quality I recommend sticking with them.
@@ColdRiverAutowire it’s a air fitting. For the most part they work the same unless your getting one with a button. But whatever floats your boat. Just letting people know that’s not a milton tool, milton is just one brand that makes them.
@@ColdRiverAutowire or just use the fitting you already have rather than pay for this scam.
Was going to say the same, I'm an automotive painter and I always use high-flo fittings in the booth.
I have said this for years 1/4 3/8 1/2 hose it doesn't matter when the quick disconnect fitting has a hole in less then 3/16 of an inch because it acts like an orifice and restricts air flow I remember many years ago some garages used to directly plumb the hose to the tool especially impact guns
I been using the same mat co impact for years as long as you oil it and grease it regularly it will last for years it’s still kicking like it’s brand new
NICE! Yes they will.
V style are the best. Also good to plum the air hose directly to the compressor without a coupler.
That model is down on power from the last design also. Those older models were fast and hit hard forever with regular oiling.
In most cases, you have too small hose or too weak compressor. Never had any problem with the old connectors. But I use a Kaeser CSD82 and a ASK 27T
You're absolutely correct sir you got no flow you got no go
Stedlin fittings flow even better
Good to know
I have a set of Milton's downstairs.
Word.
They also have their air reg set on like 50psi
Or stop using reducer bushings to put 1/4" fittings on everything.
It's amazing how much better the big-boy tools work when they're fed through the correct 3/8" or 1/2" fittings.
I used glad hands from a truck om my 1" long anvil boy does it ever flow
If you're concerned about the larger fittings getting in the way, screw a 3ft whip into the tool and move the the quick connect off of the tool.
The trigger valves are known to get weak in the IRs when they get older. That can lead to low power as well.
Best air impact is the old craftsman sears ones that were made in Japan I’ve got two that I’ve used daily for +30 years and never done anything to them
You really are supposed to oil the tools every once in awhile at least. Especially if you use them every day
works with the regular fittings? does it leak with the regular fittings? none of my bigger quick connects fit the smaller ones, I have to keep an adapter for the smaller fittings
I have that exact same air gun that I use on a daily basis. All you really need to do is oil it regularly and it should be as good as new 👍
It's because its Ingersoll rand. The shop I work at uses them, I've seen dewalt battery impacts work better
I got them tools at my work and the hole is large as the V and they work really well unless i got something that i need a power socket for
Keep in mind lots of old guns have power dials, set mine that my grandad left me from 2 to 4 and Holy balls, from a decent reliable gun all the way to a nut cracking monster
"Swivels like this one will also reduce air flow too"
Uses swivel anyways....
there’s a reason they make them…
@@ARSZLB yeah just incase you need a few less ugga duggas
I am not a mechanic But I know about air flow and I know about pipe diameter The smaller the pipe more restriction you're creating the bigger size is better i work in air conditioning and I believe you
You are exactly right!
Honestly I never use the IR but I had a Snap-On one I burn three of them out within a year
You can also get them from Mcmaster-Carr, they are the "European style"...they will plug into each other, but a standard industrial style fitting will blow the oring out of the high flow fittings half the time when you take the tool off.
You also need to add about 3-5 drops of air tool oil before using air tools as well no oil will strip it of power to
That's right.
I've never had this issue with my air tools.. and neither has any mechanic I know... thats truly weird
Night and day difference.
Wouldn't a smaller hole create more pressure or am I over thinking this?
Also helps to have air in your compressor
...hey WOW man, like MILTON is the original fitting that helped our factories to be productive in ww2, and it's tough to beat, but you can get compatible fittings a little cheaper, I also like Flexzilla, Merlin, Husky, Foster, Tru flate, Arrow, Schrader...you're new style is also better for seating tire beads, also helps to remove the valve core and poppet from the air chuck...
Make the hole as big or as small as you want but if you don't have the cfm it ain't gonna do a thing. Also if you find your air tools lacking, oil them. If they doesn't help then it's time for a rebuild.
About as useless as a chocolate fire guard 😂
High torque impacts like that with half inch inlets are tested and rated using 1/2 inch hose and fittings allowing much more air than these V style quarter inch hose and fittings.
Air tool oil helps as well
Just my opinion but I beleive you should explain the product before you advertise the link. It kind of discredits anything you say after.
Just crank air pressure up on compressor.
Why do anything else that actually works and is free, when you could buy these pointless and expensive fittings via this guys affiliate link?
Lol, glad to see some people arent fooled by this guys bs
Yeah, remember that 10,000 cfm at 299 psi that it said on the box of your compressor? That was a lie. That's why your 22cfm impact wrench isn't getting enough air. Especially because the internal inlet is 1/4 inch, so you end up with the SAME BOTTLENECK.
Yea, they lie.
Well make sure you have a air compressor that will properly start and support all the air tools your going to use. You want to have more then enough air or just barely enough?
Ah, now I know how to make my bearings go faster.
This is just 1/4in vs 3/8in air fittings... you can get them at harbor freight for a couple bucks a fitting.
Those ones are not backwards compatable.
the voice 😂 gets me cracked also could you a ever bigger fitting if you wanted to.?
wish you drove it in with the after setup
Some hard heads you can't tell them volume of air. 90psi. Max pressure
Hi flow is for painting.
Make sure your hose is at least 3/8” too.
Yea, It's important.
Compressor plays a big part!
So many other things could be wrong like you need to oil your tools so they last or mabey you need to drain the water from your air compressor. Another thing that could be wrong is your air lines have been bent too many times and they are cracked and not holding pressure.
Doesn’t that drop the pressure to the tool tho? An increase in area for air to flow would cause the air pressure to drop right?
Technically yes. In the real world it doesn't really matter. I just turn the PSI up a little bit at the air regulator.
I'm sold since it's backwards compatible
Smart man. Come back and tell these guys this isn't bs when you get them. I need some backup.
You sound like the dude from detxers laboratory. “Mandark”
I always use the v style u can get flexible ones at atwoods
Thats still so much smaller than standurd air hose connectors found in shops everywhere
The 3/8" ones?
@@MattsShop places like mechanic shops and farm shops typically use half inch
@@MattsShop it is a nice fitting you found for 3/8th through, definetly a big improvement for home use, but this problem tends to persist with larger tools, so we use half inch fitting, heck personally ove even used a hydraulic coupler for a large air impact wrench because the half inch didn't cut it
Didn’t know people still used these dinosaurs
Well I hope your Airtank has more than 24l capacity. If not your Kompressor is runnin all the time when you have loose or thighten more than four bolts/nuts.
I love those quick connect fittings too
That fitting does nothing if the inside diameter of the air hose is smaller. If it’s not smaller then you need to replace all of the fittings in the system to that larger sized fitting, in order to actually make a difference.
This falls into the "why didn't we think of this when we designed it" category.
should i try these because my air grinder dont spin very fast
Trigger is pressed different
Nope, exactly the same.
I'm sorry I have never seen a 1 nut tire. What is that?
now i need a new bigger compressor
😮💨🤦♂️ alright my guy we this thing called Air tool oil and if you've never oiled your gun, then the first time you do it'll be blowing out the oil black af. 2nd those fittings aren't special or specific to any brand, they're just a bigger fitting. Made for bigger guns and larger hoses which have more torque than that little impact you have. Changing the fittings isn't gonna work like magic, it's not going to magically make more pressure run through the little 1/4" or 3/8" airline...3rd If your customers can't figure out why an IR!!! won't work, they probably just don't need to have one
I’m no expert but isnt more air flow from a bigger hole decreasing overall pressure
I must concur; V(agina) is king.
Also consider the length and diameter of your hose.
Also if it's cold as shit you may have ice building in the screen just past the air fitting..
Air sucks these days for 90 percent of work. I dont miss it.
Air tools are the best!
If you don't have a proper shop and work in the ground it's a good chance you're filter is block
Just remove alle of the fiting and check the filter
Air tools i remember them
Nothing to do with the size of the fitting most or the time if the cfm is high enough the amount of air flowing through may not.increase but the speed in which thr air passes through increases which is.the most important piece of info for air tool it'll tell ya the manufacturer if it required 6 or 8 or 10 cfm and if your airline supports that cfm and your compressor will out out 14 cfm highly unlikely they connector is the problem
Remove the muffler for more flow.
I might! I don't need any more power though lol.
Is IR better than MAC??? Serious question
all i thought of when he did the demo was "pit stop"
run marvel mystery oil thru em and bam
They don’t work with the M style.. they kinda stay on and then pop off and for some reason shoot out a bunch of air until you “reset” the couplers with the correct fitting. Trust me. I’m the only one in the shop that has high flow couplers. The other guys have tried using their tools with the M style fittings and I tried to tell them, they didn’t listen and found out the hard way when they were 4 lug nuts in the hose pops off and is shooting air out like crazy.