@@combeebrian247 There is still a spring and summer. The LCK cup starts and ends in winter. Also the LCK cup is not a 3rd season, as it's not counted as part of the "regular" season.
@@jvenning3Technically they only really lose because of Zeus being so inconsistent in the LCK. He is really TheShy, bc internationally he’s good but domestically he just ints randomly. So weird
I mean T1 still get DDoS issues so that makes their practice harder. But Doran is very good domestically, he's been owning Zeus for a long time too so i guess it's more positive? I agree T1 struggle after winning Worlds due to them being everywhere in the world but practicing like how HLE and GenG does. But Amongs those 3 teams at the top it's an easy Top 3 where any of those three teams can be 1st/2nd/3rd Also i would've but NS in B tier because i think with Kiingen and Lehends (also jiwoo is pretty good) they can do so much, definitly a team that can now pretend to be top 6.
Doran loosing lane 8/10 times against Zeus, being on better team doesn’t mean owning. I don’t get that take, players and coaches thinks that Zeus better player, I’m 10/10 times would trust bins opinion rather than casual viewers. Out of 11 tournaments they both play since Zeus became starter doran was better player in summer 23 and 24, at every other tournament Zeus was better player
@ rewatch games, than, and ask yourself why mid and bot loosing while attention is on Zeus and he is still ahead in lane. Ask yourself how t1 than lost if 4 other players are better, if doran is better but other 4 t1 players are better than opponents, how do they lost? Doran goat than and 1v9. You can say whatever you want coaches and players from lck and LPL themselves praise Zeus as best or top 3 in the world, but you know better. Even last year the only bo5 t1 wins against hle out of 4, was Zeus triple mvp performance
@@yegor576 Youre missing a crucial fact here. The reason Zeus was ahead while his other lanes were behind is because T1 played through top lane. They dedicated resources top. If Zeus didn't perform well top, that was solely on him. Doran is a weak side player, so now T1 just has to swap resources to bottom, and with Keria now getting boosted by Mata, he'll have a lot more map agency. It was the same with Zeus' MVP performance against HLE last year. Faker and Oner both gave all the resources to Zeus. Zeus however then went on to costing them the finals against GenG. If Zeus doesn't get resources, he flounders. Side note, but Doran has more wins against Zeus than the latter does him and that's a fact. Also, Mata and Kkoma already stated that they feel Doran is the better player for the team's plans going into this year.
I have 0 faith in IG i love Rookie, he is for me the second best player of all time, but he is not him anymore. The only player that I think can make a difference is Gala, i love him.
RNG can be in TOP 8 in my opinion, Xiaoxu is solid, JaQi has a lot of potential, Lele played many years in academy so he is not a rookie, milkyway everyone knows what this guy can do, everything depends on Tangyuan maybe this year he will perform much better. Dark horse of LPL 2025
I agree with most placings but I think you are actually kinda sleeping on AL and DRX. I think DRX will do better this year. Not top 5, but better than BNK and BRO in my opinion. Biggest problem with DRX last year was that their mid was kinda ass and Sponge/Pleata (rip) were rookies. Ucal was pretty good on a whatever TT roster last year and was impressive in carry metas. Being skeptical on Rich is fair, but he was constantly grinding solo que during the second half of last year and peaked high on the Korean server. He's still eager to play in the LCK. AL won Demacia cup, which I know isn't the best indication of whether a team is good or not going into Winter season, but Shanks and Hope looked excellent eye-test wise, and the team seems to have meshed well with Tarzan and Flandre. I do hope that Rookie can go to worlds again. TheShy really does love Rookie and if Rookie's last year of competitive play was tainted by missing worlds again, I think it wouldn't sit well with him. Hopefully he can help him get there again.
New talents who coach Kim called for his teams: Corejj Ruler 2016, Khan 2017, TheShy 2018 Showmaker and Canyon 2019, Aiming and Zeka in BLG 2021, now..... Coach Kim called Duro for GENG following the logic Duro is keria 2.0.... GENG golden road is real Alsou.... KT will be 10th place JDG is a huge fraude And IG is not a fraud they have Mafa + Daeny in coach staff And Rookie played well last year
Showmaker, canyon and nuguri by no means talents that coach Kim called. HIM ACTUALLY JOINS DAMWON because he rly wants to work with this players, despite ig wants to keep him he decide step down from head coach to coach and lower his salary in order to work in damwon
I think RedForce might be sleeper 4th. Depends on fisher. i havent personally seen him play. i just heard Dom hate on him. i respect doms opinion a lot but if fisher isnt as bad as he says then they can take out DPlus maybe
The whole point is to do it before you have seen them. Obviously it's easy to say "oh well T1 is the best" just after worlds finals, or "oh well Gen G is the best" after MSI last year. Like what would that be good for.
@Zwijger it never works , it's becomes a fantasy league and creates weird subversions to how a season reset should feel like. Let the players perform for a tournament , gauge their cohesion and ambition then predict things for the larger part of the year and important tournaments like msi and worlds. Like world's tier lists are fun because you have precedents of the whole year and when things go different it feels natural.
@@happy.lil.hooman I mean, this tells people about the roster changes and the history. And it tells about Yamato's reasoning and subjective preferences. It's fun to later compare which points he got correct or incorrect.
cvMAX somehow made look good kdf, freaking kdf; and he was known as the coach whom cooks the most wonky strats, something impactfull in a fearless mode tournament.
Rage bait, but that’s actually true till they add Zeus to roaster they have some dark years even tho lck was kinda weak overall, even khan wasn’t that impressive in 2019, I still remember how sword solo killed him 😂
Worlds 2021 without Zeus and with canna choking power OFGK became 3/4 It doesn't matter what happens T1 always chokes in domestic and became monster in international games
@ so Chovy is choker for 3/4 place, but for t1 is good end 3/4 by beating in bo5 hanwha with Morgan willer? Understandable, if you talk bout 3/4 is good 2019 is more impressive based on teams that participate. This year 3/4 for them would actually achievable to, with actually 3 teams in the world have potentially better roasters, but what’s important win tournaments or not?
T1 fans so delusional, guys you understand that yourself calling t1 coaching staff and at the same hle coaching stuff stupid stupid, because they both by your logic between Zeus and doran try to sign worse player. Even funnier because if t1 can they would try to sign kiin and best lck top was not even second option 😂
Team synergy is far more important than individual skill. If Doran synergizes well with the team, they'll be incredibly strong. People seem to forget Bengi was far from the most mechanically gifted jungler, yet together with Faker he was unstoppable when it mattered.
@@teemopanda02 yeah RIP oner with doran faker topside, I bet you, when actually lck starts (not lck cup coke fiesta) you would be running in comments blaming oner
@@Pavelmensphysique Oner was T1's best player last year. He has a great rep with the Korean fans, they know how valuable he is. If they fail this year, 99,9% of the blame will be directed at Doran
T1 has always been good in spring in summer is when you have to worry about their regular season
was about to comment this. they've been excellent in spring tbh . gen g just shits on them in playoffs lol
Technically theres no Spring and Summer now tho
@@combeebrian247 There is still a spring and summer. The LCK cup starts and ends in winter. Also the LCK cup is not a 3rd season, as it's not counted as part of the "regular" season.
@@jvenning3Technically they only really lose because of Zeus being so inconsistent in the LCK. He is really TheShy, bc internationally he’s good but domestically he just ints randomly. So weird
Rookie is the reason a team like NIP is in pool 1 with Photic/Zhuo as his botlane. That just says how well he played last year especially in Spring
I mean T1 still get DDoS issues so that makes their practice harder.
But Doran is very good domestically, he's been owning Zeus for a long time too so i guess it's more positive?
I agree T1 struggle after winning Worlds due to them being everywhere in the world but practicing like how HLE and GenG does.
But Amongs those 3 teams at the top it's an easy Top 3 where any of those three teams can be 1st/2nd/3rd
Also i would've but NS in B tier because i think with Kiingen and Lehends (also jiwoo is pretty good) they can do so much, definitly a team that can now pretend to be top 6.
NS can upset few times like win vs KT for example, but with Sylvie TOP 6 is impossible to achieve.
Doran loosing lane 8/10 times against Zeus, being on better team doesn’t mean owning. I don’t get that take, players and coaches thinks that Zeus better player, I’m 10/10 times would trust bins opinion rather than casual viewers. Out of 11 tournaments they both play since Zeus became starter doran was better player in summer 23 and 24, at every other tournament Zeus was better player
@@yegor576 Doran was not on a better team, Zeus kept getting caught and dying on side, you can't do that against good teams.
@ rewatch games, than, and ask yourself why mid and bot loosing while attention is on Zeus and he is still ahead in lane. Ask yourself how t1 than lost if 4 other players are better, if doran is better but other 4 t1 players are better than opponents, how do they lost? Doran goat than and 1v9. You can say whatever you want coaches and players from lck and LPL themselves praise Zeus as best or top 3 in the world, but you know better. Even last year the only bo5 t1 wins against hle out of 4, was Zeus triple mvp performance
@@yegor576 Youre missing a crucial fact here. The reason Zeus was ahead while his other lanes were behind is because T1 played through top lane. They dedicated resources top. If Zeus didn't perform well top, that was solely on him. Doran is a weak side player, so now T1 just has to swap resources to bottom, and with Keria now getting boosted by Mata, he'll have a lot more map agency. It was the same with Zeus' MVP performance against HLE last year. Faker and Oner both gave all the resources to Zeus. Zeus however then went on to costing them the finals against GenG. If Zeus doesn't get resources, he flounders. Side note, but Doran has more wins against Zeus than the latter does him and that's a fact. Also, Mata and Kkoma already stated that they feel Doran is the better player for the team's plans going into this year.
HLE Toplaner: "Sus"
Its almost like the greek god which he is named after is pronounced that way in english 😮😮😮
@AsamatBagatov135 "Zus" and "Sus" are different my man
I have 0 faith in IG i love Rookie, he is for me the second best player of all time, but he is not him anymore. The only player that I think can make a difference is Gala, i love him.
You cannot have an LCK list with T1 not NS. They always have a chance to win any tournament at any time lol
ig over weibo and al is crazy
RNG can be in TOP 8 in my opinion, Xiaoxu is solid, JaQi has a lot of potential, Lele played many years in academy so he is not a rookie, milkyway everyone knows what this guy can do, everything depends on Tangyuan maybe this year he will perform much better. Dark horse of LPL 2025
JaQi is the milkway from botlane
I agree with most placings but I think you are actually kinda sleeping on AL and DRX. I think DRX will do better this year. Not top 5, but better than BNK and BRO in my opinion. Biggest problem with DRX last year was that their mid was kinda ass and Sponge/Pleata (rip) were rookies. Ucal was pretty good on a whatever TT roster last year and was impressive in carry metas. Being skeptical on Rich is fair, but he was constantly grinding solo que during the second half of last year and peaked high on the Korean server. He's still eager to play in the LCK.
AL won Demacia cup, which I know isn't the best indication of whether a team is good or not going into Winter season, but Shanks and Hope looked excellent eye-test wise, and the team seems to have meshed well with Tarzan and Flandre.
I do hope that Rookie can go to worlds again. TheShy really does love Rookie and if Rookie's last year of competitive play was tainted by missing worlds again, I think it wouldn't sit well with him. Hopefully he can help him get there again.
Bro beat DK btw
t1 as a is diabolical lmao.
New talents who coach Kim called for his teams:
Corejj Ruler 2016, Khan 2017, TheShy 2018 Showmaker and Canyon 2019, Aiming and Zeka in BLG 2021, now..... Coach Kim called Duro for GENG
following the logic Duro is keria 2.0.... GENG golden road is real
Alsou.... KT will be 10th place
JDG is a huge fraude
And IG is not a fraud they have Mafa + Daeny in coach staff
And Rookie played well last year
Showmaker, canyon and nuguri by no means talents that coach Kim called. HIM ACTUALLY JOINS DAMWON because he rly wants to work with this players, despite ig wants to keep him he decide step down from head coach to coach and lower his salary in order to work in damwon
I think RedForce might be sleeper 4th. Depends on fisher. i havent personally seen him play. i just heard Dom hate on him. i respect doms opinion a lot but if fisher isnt as bad as he says then they can take out DPlus maybe
Based NS believer
idk how much they let peyz go to lpl and kt went for deokdam and dnf went for berserker 😂
Pretty sure was rumoured Peyz declined KT
berserker on deez nuts 😂😂😂
I think this year tier lists should come after the first international.
The whole point is to do it before you have seen them.
Obviously it's easy to say "oh well T1 is the best" just after worlds finals, or "oh well Gen G is the best" after MSI last year. Like what would that be good for.
@Zwijger it never works , it's becomes a fantasy league and creates weird subversions to how a season reset should feel like. Let the players perform for a tournament , gauge their cohesion and ambition then predict things for the larger part of the year and important tournaments like msi and worlds. Like world's tier lists are fun because you have precedents of the whole year and when things go different it feels natural.
@@happy.lil.hooman bro you do a tierlist whenever based on the info you have its for entertainment purposes
L bozo
@@happy.lil.hooman I mean, this tells people about the roster changes and the history. And it tells about Yamato's reasoning and subjective preferences. It's fun to later compare which points he got correct or incorrect.
IG > TES
1: GENG T1 HLE
2: DK
3: KDF NS
4: DRX FOX BRO KT
1: BLG IG
2: TES JDG AL
3: NIP WBG EDG LNG
4: TT WE RNG
5: OMG UP FPX LGD
Jdg will either win a split or disband; there is no way in hell cvMAX doesnt look like GOD in a fearless format while coaching in a tier 2 tornament.
JDG is a huge fraud
Collected the rest of kicked players from blg, geng and lng
Also missing without ruler is a mid support
The most overrated team
cvMAX somehow made look good kdf, freaking kdf; and he was known as the coach whom cooks the most wonky strats, something impactfull in a fearless mode tournament.
T1 in A tier while Shaker is their midlaner? delusional take. Max B tier... they will be exposed without Zeus
Crazy how no one got baited, must feel shitty right ?
@Trollthem Because its hard to argue with facts.
Rage bait, but that’s actually true till they add Zeus to roaster they have some dark years even tho lck was kinda weak overall, even khan wasn’t that impressive in 2019, I still remember how sword solo killed him 😂
Worlds 2021 without Zeus and with canna choking power OFGK became 3/4
It doesn't matter what happens T1 always chokes in domestic and became monster in international games
@ so Chovy is choker for 3/4 place, but for t1 is good end 3/4 by beating in bo5 hanwha with Morgan willer? Understandable, if you talk bout 3/4 is good 2019 is more impressive based on teams that participate. This year 3/4 for them would actually achievable to, with actually 3 teams in the world have potentially better roasters, but what’s important win tournaments or not?
T1 fans so delusional, guys you understand that yourself calling t1 coaching staff and at the same hle coaching stuff stupid stupid, because they both by your logic between Zeus and doran try to sign worse player. Even funnier because if t1 can they would try to sign kiin and best lck top was not even second option 😂
Team synergy is far more important than individual skill. If Doran synergizes well with the team, they'll be incredibly strong. People seem to forget Bengi was far from the most mechanically gifted jungler, yet together with Faker he was unstoppable when it mattered.
@@teemopanda02 yeah RIP oner with doran faker topside, I bet you, when actually lck starts (not lck cup coke fiesta) you would be running in comments blaming oner
@@Pavelmensphysique Oner was T1's best player last year. He has a great rep with the Korean fans, they know how valuable he is. If they fail this year, 99,9% of the blame will be directed at Doran