Honestly, very impressed with lilith and their recent face-to-face updates. Certainly feels as though they take player feedback with genuine consideration.
the biggest change here by a LOT is the imperium change. there are currently 6 kds above 23bil, 2 of which are kd 1001 and 1002 which we all know don't count. kds like 93 are not close to that power either, so we could see fully 4 alliance kingdoms back on the menu. gonna be interesting what kind of arms race this is gonna create. being able to bring in 150 players at 80-90mil power each kvk without it affecting you migration cap at all is certainly gonna be interesting.
I'm surprised that I didn't get the ping from this video, but I got Omniarch's video alarm. Got same settings on both creator's Got to say, alliance shop update is very much needed. I have over 5m credit's open, and tons of stuff I can swap. Huge deal for everyone but especially kingdoms that are coming to Season of Conquest
I mean, RoK is becoming old and with CoD and AoE Competing for the same playerpool, problems with RoK become more and more obvious and harder to deny to a point where people might consider an alternative game over RoK. So it makes sense that they shift their mindset and address the longlasting issues RoK has and improve QoL massively to keep players engaged and invested with RoK instead of letting them leave for new adventures.
great video chisgule, personally have been, so impressed with the recent focus from lilith on player / community improvements. makes me want to continue playing this great / fun game.
Harald is my favourite commander in the game. I actually found the coolest part was not his second skill casting, but was the fact that his entire skill switched between single target or AOE depending on your situation. I feel saddened that my favourite commander is sitting in the bench. I would love if something brought Harald back like Alex. Same for Sargon
He’s kit is plain awful, he’s fine with papal when you can cheese kills during times when most people didn’t have 5 marches or stat overhauls with everything added into the game later on. But as a fourth gen commander he does 1200/1500 dmg factor while guan, does 2000+50% chance of 1400 AOE while Saladin does 1700. As a infantry commander, not only he isn’t tanky, he actually gets squishier as the fight goes. At a 5 second cd and 20% chance of procing his active skill is plain awful compared to Alex. His overall kit is plain bad thus No commanders can bring him back to life.
@@andrewwong2377 If they make an infantry commander that has ability to self clean Defense Debuff, Increase Skill damage when getting surrounded, and have combo attack like LC, then it can synergy well with Harald. However, the new commander shouldn't be good when pair with other commanders, otherwise, who would pair him with Harald? That's the tricky part with bringing the old commander back. It must be so specific that it can't be paired well with any other new commanders.
I don’t think they will allow gold key commanders to switch with normal commanders, and I reckon the cost might be some universal golden heads ? My top of the list commander is my Harold and my Sargon for siege commanders
Do not know how much low spender or f2p will get armaments swaps acquired. Also Omni thinks that commander sculpture swap may be quite high price in terms of gems. He was thinking maybe 50k gem's per swap or if you are in S1-2 you get the swap little cheaper. I'm all for Chisgule rants. 😂 Also these changes may be enough for me to get back in game. Now my account has been offline for over 4 month's
Yeah, unless they DO allow us to swap with gold head commanders like Chisgule said. Because if you have a stock of excess heads for those stashed up, it's basically 100% free upgrade 😂
Should they adjust the 150 million power cap for imperium? That rule went into place prior to crystal tech when all players were capped at 5 marches. With the introduction of crystal tech and the ability to expand to 7 marches, players at 300 mill or 500 or 1 billion plus like Baba get an additional unfair advantage of only counting as 150 million...
But that’s not a big upgrade. A better change would be something like ramses , artemisia ,Edward to Hermann ZGL. Or Khan Saladin to Huo and potential 10th gen coming out in February
The compensation for bad rerolls is a bad idea, it will actually make all whales able to have max armaments very quickly. I think that its annoying how it is, but there are strategies for rerolling certain things and its more reasonable. Not everything should be somewhat easily maxable with money. Whales can already buy more armaments, thats a big enough gap.
they fact that they did not put their plan with armaments in front of players is more infuriating. Not only that but then they incentivized recycling armaments by give those gold and silver coins. It is probably well know among players but when system began it dropped good armaments in travel and dispatch because that's how they get people invested. Thats the time i got really good armamanets for most formations but all those not important ones got recycled thinking why would they be used and i needed transmute stone and armaments choice chest from shop. Now they are giving us commanders for those specific formations. They are truly shameless.
Wish the ranged formation applied to integration commanders as well as engineering giving the original siege commanders some usefulness... also it would allow Mulan to be used with range commanders too and have her active skill work
This whole video has been about “me me me me!!” For chisgule… dude you’re not the only one that predicated and wanted and voiced about these updates in the past. Just do the video and stop with the excessive self gratification lol
just wanted to comment on the best reroll strategy if u have a special inscription u can put on a armament, that you always wanna have the defence high, due to that is one of the worst stats to have to reroll. Since the 3rd stat who is most powerfull, u can hit both all damage and health, and be happy with, giving u 2 possible good outcomes. while if u reroll for a ordinary field perspective, u can allso say that getting the field march speed allso is some kind of improvement for the first position if ur unlucky along the way for the rerolls.
Just realized how Last year every update I thought: oh f*, i'm going to be f*ed again with the new release/gimmicks... now it isn't the case anymore 19:00 I fully used all my sculptures during reconstruction... But got avoir 2k commander sculpture chest : aka ishida, selon and mitsunari so 🤷♂️
Honestly if they don't do something to let us reuse GH I will probably stop playing myself. I am a spender of about 500 U.S. a month. I know i am nobody but it just takes sooo much time and spending to be competitive. It should be easier..GH reload or something would be game changing.
Most people doesn’t spend other than occasional event packs or crystal techs. Even call of ancient and war machine is rare to see people go for these days. 500 a month on average already makes you probably around top 5% of all spenders
Chis, what about the museum buffs? Do they remain? What if you want to swap a commander with museum buffs for a commander who has museum buffs available but never selected? Not necessarily a good choice of course, but it's a possibility.... 🤔
I used 3 crystals and 30 transmutations to get one stat on 2 different armaments. (So 6 and 60) I used another 2 crystals and 20 stones on another, it's still not there. Probably ten more to go. Its rediculous. Should be able to change the luck over each transmutation to pick stat you want
Lets not forgot tho, there is one thing all of us old players have with NOTHING to do with and that is the Commander Sculpture chest for Cleo, Seon and Ishda. Could i swap there skills and then open the chest remax Cleo, Seon or Ishida like you stated with Charles? We have nothing we can do with this damn chest! lol
The commander reset would be amazing for f2p, they could take a gathering commander or key commander they expertised and get a another commander for field or garrison!
Mina is arguably one of the comms that many should hang on to if they've maxed. Sure, he's not meta, but he's a good interim commander for those making new cav marches, and great for forts/barbarians. Now, hannibal on the other hand... 😬🤣🤣🤣🤣
HEY I GOT QUESTION, "How many gems are needed to upgrade the City Hall from level 1 to level 25?" PLEASE GIVE ME THE EXACT AMOUNT OF GEMS NEEDED. MAKE A VIDEO FOR IT
@@GrowmietheGreen They did reduce the materials cost before (Used to need 180 legendary mats now we need 120 mats) + killing barbs in HK is now giving mats too after they upgraded barbs to lvl 40.
That'w what I'm thinking. I was working on Ragnar P and he's 5211 and now I'm thinking on stopping and wait for that event to swap the skills with my max YSG
@@arcana722 That's not what the developer notes stated. It would carry over your heads and stars. There will be a cost, for sure, but I would be surprised if it's 50% of the total ghs needed to max a commander. The player base would go nuts.
@texascpa thats an example it aont be that high but keep your hopes down so u dont get disappointed still i am gonna make my max ysg into mag ragnar and 5531 alex into max scipio since i already have scipio at5551
Has anyone ever had any luck with customer support and using gold heads on the wrong version of a character? I just upgraded Ragnar instead of prime and customer service just said sorry no. I know it's my freaking fault but can't they even look and see that I just spent 500 gold heads? It's so infuriating I think I might put the game down.
I never ever played game giving players big promises then disappointed them like ROK , so please don’t be extremely optimistic cuz i will feel bad for you later😆
let me swap my alex for liu and my charles for scipi pls (ik alex good with liu but charles isnt expertised and alex 55 is bad i think? or would making liu expertise with 5511 alex be good?
Doubt Chisgule will comment on this thought... but this won't really help ftp/low spenders catch up. Why, you ask? BECAUSE many of us have gotten by simply maxing the first two or three skills of several commanders rather than 'experticing' one or two commanders. This means those last few skill raises will still be missing for such, and most end-game commanders need their expertise. Sure, you'll get star levels and overall levels, but for that segment of players, they still won't have even ONE march fully ready to go. Anything is better than nothing; I'm just saying the players who DID expertise one or two commanders will be able to at least have one good march for soc, but the rest?? Too bad. Too damn bad. Again, another fail for those who ARE trying to compete. 🙄
I don't think aethelflaed will be available for that. . I think it will be like this : 1st gen cav swap with 2nd gen cav 1st gen Inf swap with 2nd gen inf ... etc . That will be sad because i wanna get rid of sargon too, and the problem is I've already maxed LC, so i hope the swap system will be universal and not just from cav to cav only, and from Inf to Inf only, etc... And i hope it will nclude the latest commanders like Herman, Huo, Zl, Lc and not just the 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation commanders.
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Honestly, very impressed with lilith and their recent face-to-face updates. Certainly feels as though they take player feedback with genuine consideration.
the biggest change here by a LOT is the imperium change.
there are currently 6 kds above 23bil, 2 of which are kd 1001 and 1002 which we all know don't count.
kds like 93 are not close to that power either, so we could see fully 4 alliance kingdoms back on the menu.
gonna be interesting what kind of arms race this is gonna create.
being able to bring in 150 players at 80-90mil power each kvk without it affecting you migration cap at all is certainly gonna be interesting.
Oh yeah! And overall these updates are great. Especially alliance shop. Sweat. I'll dry out the shop for sure immediately it comes.
Sorry buy out the shop, had this on voice so it somehow wrote dry when I said try to. Lol
Man the quality of Q&As between RoK and CoD is light and day
I'm surprised that I didn't get the ping from this video, but I got Omniarch's video alarm. Got same settings on both creator's
Got to say, alliance shop update is very much needed. I have over 5m credit's open, and tons of stuff I can swap.
Huge deal for everyone but especially kingdoms that are coming to Season of Conquest
*thanks to age of empires, it forces legou and lilith to do all those changes *finally .
Facts 😂😂
@@ITPROFESSIONAL yeah💯
I mean, RoK is becoming old and with CoD and AoE Competing for the same playerpool, problems with RoK become more and more obvious and harder to deny to a point where people might consider an alternative game over RoK. So it makes sense that they shift their mindset and address the longlasting issues RoK has and improve QoL massively to keep players engaged and invested with RoK instead of letting them leave for new adventures.
they only need to change one thing to bring this game back to life and that is to make it less PAY 2 WIN.
great video chisgule, personally have been, so impressed with the recent focus from lilith on player / community improvements. makes me want to continue playing this great / fun game.
Harald is my favourite commander in the game. I actually found the coolest part was not his second skill casting, but was the fact that his entire skill switched between single target or AOE depending on your situation. I feel saddened that my favourite commander is sitting in the bench. I would love if something brought Harald back like Alex. Same for Sargon
He’s kit is plain awful, he’s fine with papal when you can cheese kills during times when most people didn’t have 5 marches or stat overhauls with everything added into the game later on. But as a fourth gen commander he does 1200/1500 dmg factor while guan, does 2000+50% chance of 1400 AOE while Saladin does 1700. As a infantry commander, not only he isn’t tanky, he actually gets squishier as the fight goes. At a 5 second cd and 20% chance of procing his active skill is plain awful compared to Alex. His overall kit is plain bad thus No commanders can bring him back to life.
@@andrewwong2377 If they make an infantry commander that has ability to self clean Defense Debuff, Increase Skill damage when getting surrounded, and have combo attack like LC, then it can synergy well with Harald. However, the new commander shouldn't be good when pair with other commanders, otherwise, who would pair him with Harald? That's the tricky part with bringing the old commander back. It must be so specific that it can't be paired well with any other new commanders.
I don’t think they will allow gold key commanders to switch with normal commanders, and I reckon the cost might be some universal golden heads ? My top of the list commander is my Harold and my Sargon for siege commanders
Do not know how much low spender or f2p will get armaments swaps acquired. Also Omni thinks that commander sculpture swap may be quite high price in terms of gems. He was thinking maybe 50k gem's per swap or if you are in S1-2 you get the swap little cheaper.
I'm all for Chisgule rants. 😂
Also these changes may be enough for me to get back in game. Now my account has been offline for over 4 month's
Nice and what about all the armaments we dismantled because there was no transfer system?
I quit playing cuz I couldn’t get passports and stuck in dead kd. I might actually start playing again now 👍
I’d dump Sargon for WW in 1.811083 seconds
Yeah, unless they DO allow us to swap with gold head commanders like Chisgule said.
Because if you have a stock of excess heads for those stashed up, it's basically 100% free upgrade 😂
@ yeah , would kill off half my gathering coms and just use epic 😂
I do feel like the game is starting to move in the right direction, after a few years of poor decisions.
Should they adjust the 150 million power cap for imperium? That rule went into place prior to crystal tech when all players were capped at 5 marches. With the introduction of crystal tech and the ability to expand to 7 marches, players at 300 mill or 500 or 1 billion plus like Baba get an additional unfair advantage of only counting as 150 million...
Changing Alex to WW will be a good pick and likely allowed
But that’s not a big upgrade. A better change would be something like ramses , artemisia ,Edward to Hermann ZGL. Or Khan Saladin to Huo and potential 10th gen coming out in February
The compensation for bad rerolls is a bad idea, it will actually make all whales able to have max armaments very quickly. I think that its annoying how it is, but there are strategies for rerolling certain things and its more reasonable. Not everything should be somewhat easily maxable with money.
Whales can already buy more armaments, thats a big enough gap.
they fact that they did not put their plan with armaments in front of players is more infuriating. Not only that but then they incentivized recycling armaments by give those gold and silver coins. It is probably well know among players but when system began it dropped good armaments in travel and dispatch because that's how they get people invested. Thats the time i got really good armamanets for most formations but all those not important ones got recycled thinking why would they be used and i needed transmute stone and armaments choice chest from shop. Now they are giving us commanders for those specific formations. They are truly shameless.
20:07
"Rally it and find out."
Literally made me lol 🤣
Wish the ranged formation applied to integration commanders as well as engineering giving the original siege commanders some usefulness... also it would allow Mulan to be used with range commanders too and have her active skill work
This whole video has been about “me me me me!!” For chisgule… dude you’re not the only one that predicated and wanted and voiced about these updates in the past. Just do the video and stop with the excessive self gratification lol
just wanted to comment on the best reroll strategy if u have a special inscription u can put on a armament, that you always wanna have the defence high, due to that is one of the worst stats to have to reroll. Since the 3rd stat who is most powerfull, u can hit both all damage and health, and be happy with, giving u 2 possible good outcomes. while if u reroll for a ordinary field perspective, u can allso say that getting the field march speed allso is some kind of improvement for the first position if ur unlucky along the way for the rerolls.
Was waiting for this
Just realized how Last year every update I thought: oh f*, i'm going to be f*ed again with the new release/gimmicks... now it isn't the case anymore
19:00
I fully used all my sculptures during reconstruction...
But got avoir 2k commander sculpture chest : aka ishida, selon and mitsunari so 🤷♂️
Honestly if they don't do something to let us reuse GH I will probably stop playing myself. I am a spender of about 500 U.S. a month. I know i am nobody but it just takes sooo much time and spending to be competitive. It should be easier..GH reload or something would be game changing.
Most people doesn’t spend other than occasional event packs or crystal techs. Even call of ancient and war machine is rare to see people go for these days. 500 a month on average already makes you probably around top 5% of all spenders
Thank you Chisgule. Thank you
Your rants have been valid for years tho bro 😂
Like if you are watching in 2029
I can't like sorry I'm from 2028 December
2025 here
2026 here. Lol
Game died in 2026 😢
Chis, what about the museum buffs? Do they remain? What if you want to swap a commander with museum buffs for a commander who has museum buffs available but never selected? Not necessarily a good choice of course, but it's a possibility.... 🤔
I think goldkey comanders will be impossible to swap ,mge also ,but all those wheel and other comanders might be a choosable option
Just give me the ability to get rid of my Sargon.
Even if i have to swap him with Richard or Guan I'm all in, anything but Sargon 😭
@@ziyadpepe6291same mistake , I just want to dump Sargon so badly 😂😂😂
@@ziyadpepe6291a moment in time I thought of maxing Sargon
Me on Edward Woodstock 🗿
I used 3 crystals and 30 transmutations to get one stat on 2 different armaments. (So 6 and 60)
I used another 2 crystals and 20 stones on another, it's still not there. Probably ten more to go. Its rediculous. Should be able to change the luck over each transmutation to pick stat you want
Lets not forgot tho, there is one thing all of us old players have with NOTHING to do with and that is the Commander Sculpture chest for Cleo, Seon and Ishda. Could i swap there skills and then open the chest remax Cleo, Seon or Ishida like you stated with Charles? We have nothing we can do with this damn chest! lol
No way gold keys or aethelfled are part of this exchange
21:45 The moment he skip engineering
They really need to fix pass opening schedules. They always seem to fall on a Tuesday or Thursday. At least guranteed kingsland to be on the weekend
The commander reset would be amazing for f2p, they could take a gathering commander or key commander they expertised and get a another commander for field or garrison!
Really we can do that ? Gold keys too. I have all gathering I will so do that also have tons of gathering commander pick chest too nice.
From how he explained it I think so. Not 100% sure
Ohhhh what about Mina, if they let you skill swap mina suddenly that becomes a lit more viable for are new accounts.
Mina is arguably one of the comms that many should hang on to if they've maxed. Sure, he's not meta, but he's a good interim commander for those making new cav marches, and great for forts/barbarians. Now, hannibal on the other hand... 😬🤣🤣🤣🤣
I doubt mina and aethelfled would count
Mina is not a free commader...I doubt he will be part of it. I have a feeling gold keys, paid commanders, and aethelfled cant be exchanged
You shouldn't have show that CM scups 😅 now the devs :"well guys change in plans"
yo chis, they already implemented the resources refund after kvk, no?
"At a certain cost"?
Gold heads?
@@endermantheend7625 probably from 5555 to 5551? 🤣
500$
Let's hope it's Gems
And it's will be no more than 10k gems.
so if people miss Ragnar release they will never get him ? ( its kinda strongest Skill damage commander at the infantry section )
do i commander swap expertise Alex to an expertise WW for WW/LC or do i swap my 5135 ysg to 5531 ZL?...
For gorgo hera do you do all inf or mixed?
HEY I GOT QUESTION, "How many gems are needed to upgrade the City Hall from level 1 to level 25?" PLEASE GIVE ME THE EXACT AMOUNT OF GEMS NEEDED. MAKE A VIDEO FOR IT
wonder if cod implements rok's migration system will it be better
Imagine Edward Woodstock prime for archers skill dmg lol
😢 Just Swap Which is limited to certain commanders?❤
I've been waiting for the ability to reset or swap commanders skills for ages 😭
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I would pay 3k gems for passports in the vip shop
I need a video for new s1&2 commander investments
Now we need to reduce the amount of materials needed to craft equipment..👀
Or just more ways to get mats. That would be reasonable.
@@GrowmietheGreen They did reduce the materials cost before (Used to need 180 legendary mats now we need 120 mats) + killing barbs in HK is now giving mats too after they upgraded barbs to lvl 40.
So if u got 1 commander maxed and expertised and 1 commander at 5-2-1-1 they will just swop them so best to keep something low low low lol
That'w what I'm thinking. I was working on Ragnar P and he's 5211 and now I'm thinking on stopping and wait for that event to swap the skills with my max YSG
@@danielthuku8192no keep YSG for chaining.
They need to do the swap Ocean a year every year, especially for free to play players
You're getting two swaps right off the bat.
@@texascpa with a catch i think its 50% u get back like legendary equipment
@@arcana722 That's not what the developer notes stated. It would carry over your heads and stars. There will be a cost, for sure, but I would be surprised if it's 50% of the total ghs needed to max a commander. The player base would go nuts.
@texascpa thats an example it aont be that high but keep your hopes down so u dont get disappointed still i am gonna make my max ysg into mag ragnar and 5531 alex into max scipio since i already have scipio at5551
@texascpa this is really nice for me since i maxed ysg and 5531 alex i am using 5551 scipio ysg atm xd scipio ragnar is a huge ubgrade
Has anyone ever had any luck with customer support and using gold heads on the wrong version of a character? I just upgraded Ragnar instead of prime and customer service just said sorry no. I know it's my freaking fault but can't they even look and see that I just spent 500 gold heads? It's so infuriating I think I might put the game down.
What about the gathering comanders like Cleo
I never ever played game giving players big promises then disappointed them like ROK , so please don’t be extremely optimistic cuz i will feel bad for you later😆
1 minute ago WOW IM EARLY
Wow you're early
Are you from sri lanka?
ahhhh no word about the ressources return after a kvk? :(
Thanks
2024 only has 11 months right? 🥺
People who hoarded untill kvk3 are being punished now for being smart about their gh investment, great
ROK is trash now. Game is dying and is getting boring! 💯💯💯
let me swap my alex for liu and my charles for scipi pls (ik alex good with liu but charles isnt expertised and alex 55 is bad i think? or would making liu expertise with 5511 alex be good?
Doubt Chisgule will comment on this thought... but this won't really help ftp/low spenders catch up. Why, you ask?
BECAUSE many of us have gotten by simply maxing the first two or three skills of several commanders rather than 'experticing' one or two commanders.
This means those last few skill raises will still be missing for such, and most end-game commanders need their expertise. Sure, you'll get star levels and overall levels, but for that segment of players, they still won't have even ONE march fully ready to go.
Anything is better than nothing; I'm just saying the players who DID expertise one or two commanders will be able to at least have one good march for soc, but the rest??
Too bad. Too damn bad. Again, another fail for those who ARE trying to compete. 🙄
❤
Sargon, Aethelflaed, YSG
I don't think aethelflaed will be available for that.
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I think it will be like this :
1st gen cav swap with 2nd gen cav
1st gen Inf swap with 2nd gen inf ... etc
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That will be sad because i wanna get rid of sargon too, and the problem is I've already maxed LC, so i hope the swap system will be universal and not just from cav to cav only, and from Inf to Inf only, etc...
And i hope it will nclude the latest commanders like Herman, Huo, Zl, Lc and not just the 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation commanders.
Cortex and His broken leadership gear😁😁
Those Julius heads needs to be out of here, thanks chisgule!
My Ysg is gone 😂😂😂 welcome Ragnar prime 🎉
I love this ! I love this ! 😮
but I dunno what it means 🤔
😂😂😂😂😂
Goodbye Edward of Woodstock and Sargon!
Yup!
Commander swap sargon is going out 😂
Game so dying
the sayings since 2021🤣🤣🤭
@GameC3nt not hitting yo game Brev... I play too...
Its not free broski why do you say that on the thumbnail😭🙏
😊❤
Age of empires affect😂
15:15 20k gems lol
Awesome, now everyone can stop complaining about resetting commanders.
My expertise cleo, ishida and seonduk will be happy to serve as fodder for commander swap 🤣
Big brain move imo
I don't think we'll be able to do that with tavern commanders, Lilith would be being too generous 😂
Urgh where is the Maya civilization?
😂 Make Alexander Great Again! MAGA 😂
Then its coming too cod