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Even you have meta commanders on the field, if you dont pay every kvk (that means every 2 months) at least 50$ on tech to those gold digger developers then you are done.
Not true,I know people in my kingdom they don’t spend anything on tech,only do daily quests and barbs,and they still end up in top10 and 20 in kingdom stats,it’s all about rss and speed ups,and how you move your troops,play smart
@@Zaraki__ correct! Tech is great but not mandatory. Tho the rss healing reduction is op for hc fighters, unless u got many farms. Its only a must for garrisons/rallys
@@timo2288 I'm top 20 in dkp 2 years in row buddy. I'm just telling that crystal tech is the most stupid thing in all play store. You buy something that last 50 days. Wasted money
We once had a kamikaze fighter who said the exact same thing, and refused to believe that it was because of their field fighting strategy. Sharing nearly identical research and little difference in equipment/armaments, me and 1 other in my kd proved their theory very wrong. If you're not paying attention, or just sending your marches in to just die, then yeah, you're done 😂😂😂 but f2p/low spenders can indeed do well if you're making smart decisions and managing your marches.
my end result after 6 years in the game is to go at least 2 marches ( f2p) 3 marches ( low spenders) of 1 type ( infantry or cavalry or archers ) infantry is preferable all equipment & material & healing rss goes to 1 type is the best for f2p & low spenders
Nope….. He is not the best investment all he does is more damage. He doesnt have active skill debuff or buff. By next year all commanders will deal similar damage. He will be out since those commanders will have more to them just then a few hundred damage factor.
For me to be honest i'd steer away from zhuge herman or any archer commander at this point if you're a ftp to low spender cuz Archers are getting targeted so bad. In paper they are one of the highest damage dealing march yet that's the 1st march getting sad faced on the field in my experience
you will never be targeted if you have good positin in murderball. Its just a MyTh. In real fights it doesnt happen) All UA-camrs say only theoretically. All troop types can be targeted if you move out outside murderball
@abdirazakovaskar no in every murderball when they see and Archer logo. They aim it, I do the same because I know they are much slower and squishier than inf atm. So if you plan on investing. Archers would be the last March you work on. One more reason is you can easily get inf and cav equipment blueprint than archers
As for siege I like Margaret Gonzalo or Gajah Gonzalo still so I'd not do new comms for 1 siege march And btw siege garrison can be the play with John + Babur theoretically in AOO
Love the vid. Can you please sometime do a video on beginning of the game to first or second kvk please. I would like to see your approach on that. Thanks
Seige is so Game changing. All of our bigger players are building it now just for altar/ruin fights. They are insanely good at ruin fights. Maybe something to consider. Have bunch of insane reports from our top players
@@otalgebra4436 cry about it all march are selfish, also while playing a melee march you aint tanking anything you just dying by taking 155 aoe per sec in murderball (and eventually get instakill on a missclick or when you troop slide on the ennemie) while your whale actually tanking 😂
@@LekbedMalick-g6v delusional take lol. Siege are useless if there isnt a murderball in front of them. If your side's murderball dies, your siege are completely useless.
i find cav needs new commanders, right now cav is has no real meta comm that can hold to a WW LC for me this philips and siege commander werent as necesary as a cav comm.
@@realjohnloveI dont think he is super F2P friendly as you Need 5+ marches to get best value out of him. He is more like a trajan than a Honda or Mehmed in my opinion.
I dont think new players will be able to use the new commander swap. Cause most havent invested anythjng into commanders yet. but this will give new players the ability to invest in two early game commanders untill SOC
Chis, i am investing Shajar right now to play with YSG as second march and i was thinking to change YSG with Ashur when commander change event come. But after this video i am kinda confused. What should i do as a F2P.
Hi! I am infarny play and i dont speend money in the game. I have upgrated Sun tzu for infarny. If I invest is Zhuge Liang good for infarny to combo with Sun Tzu? Pls need answer. I really like Zhuge liang. Thanks!
No. ZL does not pair with inf. Liu Che is 100% the Top inf com. New players should inv in Alex to go with Sunzu and then get Liu as Sunzu isn't viable in SoC.
@komradekhrushchev2797 I don't know the players that's why I am asking my friend. What if I get Zhuge Liang with who do you suggest I can combine with as a f2p? Thanks
@@illyriangods8657 Herman Prime. You can't run zhuge with infantry commanders it doesn't work. Use infantry commanders for infantry and archer commanders for archers.
Ive never gotten better results from using Nevsky Joan over Huo Joan, I understand him looking better on paper or during a 1v1 but fighting together is what everyone is doing, and Huos survivability definitely makes the march much better.
@@Randus if you consider 1v1 reports being similar, then nevsky gets better in ball, his debuff gets better surrounding enemies. Overall, whichever you pick is fine
I have Nevsky Joan & Huo William, somehow in this KVK my Huo scores higher than Nevsky.... I have Ashur Boudica and Zhuge Herman P, the score is a bit... meh... I have Ragnar Prime now and 1200 GH, i dont want to Max Scipio P, maybe I will wait for Philip...
I dont care what anyone says about cav being singe target, inf smite and archer aoe. If one of the next cav doesnt have aoe i swear on everything they have ruined entire cav. I would 100% understand the single target if it was higher damage than aoe. But make it make sense the new archer and infantry commanders have the same AOE damage to 5 targets as 1 cav has to single target. Why would anyone want to chose dealing damage to 1 when we got commander doing same amount of damage to 3-5 targets. Like there is legit no point in cav in that case. Increase single target damage or fcking nerf the sht out of these aoe commanders
and people be saying ''but cav is fast, cav got this and that'' doesnt change the fact that a lc alex march can be faster than most cav marches. Yet another thing that doesnt make any sense at all. An infantrry march being faster than cav maraches?!??
@@Chisguleyeah pretty confusing, in the must have category you have liu and ragnar... But than at time 12:12 you say for infantry go: william-liu, contrudicting your list😅 So what is it? Liu-ragnar as the list suggest or WW-lui?
@@TJMiton ive been avoiding investing in William on my restart. I have Huo, Nevsky maxed, Joan 5225, William 2111. At this juncture investing in William seems like a bad idea. I’ll probably do Philip as an upgrade from Mehmed
Mehmed is not trash with scipio still good trades and tanky,tariq is still fine but single target but if you swarm something he is very good,i have marches for open field and marches to switch if i swarm players or flags
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It would be great if any new commander would revive a "Just No" commander, like LC did with Alex...
Agree.
Even you have meta commanders on the field, if you dont pay every kvk (that means every 2 months) at least 50$ on tech to those gold digger developers then you are done.
Depends on your strategy I guess. I have never bought anything for crystal tech and I do well. Just upgrade the necessary research, do bastions
Not true,I know people in my kingdom they don’t spend anything on tech,only do daily quests and barbs,and they still end up in top10 and 20 in kingdom stats,it’s all about rss and speed ups,and how you move your troops,play smart
@@Zaraki__ correct! Tech is great but not mandatory. Tho the rss healing reduction is op for hc fighters, unless u got many farms. Its only a must for garrisons/rallys
@@timo2288 I'm top 20 in dkp 2 years in row buddy. I'm just telling that crystal tech is the most stupid thing in all play store. You buy something that last 50 days. Wasted money
We once had a kamikaze fighter who said the exact same thing, and refused to believe that it was because of their field fighting strategy. Sharing nearly identical research and little difference in equipment/armaments, me and 1 other in my kd proved their theory very wrong. If you're not paying attention, or just sending your marches in to just die, then yeah, you're done 😂😂😂 but f2p/low spenders can indeed do well if you're making smart decisions and managing your marches.
Philip makes sense only if you run 7 marches, even if you run 6 you wanna big dog commanders. He is in niche roles
Great. I'll still wait a bit, what happened with Boudica always left me with one foot behind. Waiting for results from the big kvk will be worth it.
Chis will you please do a video on whom to reset or commander swap for the future update.
First we need to know how the swaps will work. And what the cost will be. Maybe it will be a big disappointment
U dont need video for this. Of coz swap with the older comm or comms u did not used anymore
@@afdalazman8257 some of us would like a video on it. keep your empty comment to urself 🙂
@@nicdiamond9989 u dont have brain to think logically on your own?
Chadski said Huo is better than nevsky
my end result after 6 years in the game is to go at least 2 marches ( f2p) 3 marches ( low spenders) of 1 type ( infantry or cavalry or archers ) infantry is preferable
all equipment & material & healing rss goes to 1 type is the best for f2p & low spenders
I only need 1 march and it's fully expertised with the best cavalry equipments Attila and Takeda
If aoe is so powerful💭…. then argument for Ragnar not being a good investment is invalid….hes one of the best\safest investments right now
which is why I put him in exactly that spot
Nope….. He is not the best investment all he does is more damage. He doesnt have active skill debuff or buff. By next year all commanders will deal similar damage. He will be out since those commanders will have more to them just then a few hundred damage factor.
nope he will be always one of the better just because he can create a great difference of speed 😂@@zkx2417
Make sure you check out the right Ragnar one, there are two 🤷
@@zkx2417it has debuff at 3rd skill
This is exactly what i needed
Thank you 😊
For me to be honest i'd steer away from zhuge herman or any archer commander at this point if you're a ftp to low spender cuz Archers are getting targeted so bad. In paper they are one of the highest damage dealing march yet that's the 1st march getting sad faced on the field in my experience
you will never be targeted if you have good positin in murderball. Its just a MyTh. In real fights it doesnt happen) All UA-camrs say only theoretically. All troop types can be targeted if you move out outside murderball
@abdirazakovaskar no in every murderball when they see and Archer logo. They aim it, I do the same because I know they are much slower and squishier than inf atm. So if you plan on investing. Archers would be the last March you work on. One more reason is you can easily get inf and cav equipment blueprint than archers
As for siege I like Margaret Gonzalo or Gajah Gonzalo still so I'd not do new comms for 1 siege march
And btw siege garrison can be the play with John + Babur theoretically in AOO
Adding about archers: you can do Ashur Phillip easily
Love the vid. Can you please sometime do a video on beginning of the game to first or second kvk please. I would like to see your approach on that. Thanks
Great content! Is it possible that we get the same investment tier list for mid-high spenders, meta garrison and rally leaders maybe?
Seige is so Game changing. All of our bigger players are building it now just for altar/ruin fights. They are insanely good at ruin fights. Maybe something to consider. Have bunch of insane reports from our top players
They are meta in altars fight, but it is so complicated to run them with your other mobility marches in open field. So all in siege or nothing
seige is the selfish march of course they gonna get the best trades. Your friends are doing all the tanking for you.
It's a totally different kind of play. And it also takes a lot of new investments in equipment and armaments
@@otalgebra4436 cry about it all march are selfish, also while playing a melee march you aint tanking anything you just dying by taking 155 aoe per sec in murderball (and eventually get instakill on a missclick or when you troop slide on the ennemie) while your whale actually tanking 😂
@@LekbedMalick-g6v delusional take lol. Siege are useless if there isnt a murderball in front of them. If your side's murderball dies, your siege are completely useless.
Drop shajar to niche and bring back Huo for now, he is 100% better ( for the next year )
I guarantee my shajar March will come out positive, she slaps, I'm a archer purist
I hope for the new cav they bring out a aoe king Baldwin😍 that would be amazing
Cavs need a LC version but with smite tree😌
i find cav needs new commanders, right now cav is has no real meta comm that can hold to a WW LC for me this philips and siege commander werent as necesary as a cav comm.
I think Philip is long overdue. Having a versatile secondary you can out behind any troop type was some F2P needed badly
@@realjohnloveI dont think he is super F2P friendly as you Need 5+ marches to get best value out of him.
He is more like a trajan than a Honda or Mehmed in my opinion.
@@Simon-22 I guess we need to wait on testing but Trajan doesn’t offer damage the way Philip does.
Archers also hve long history of skill dmg ,so i guess rally wise will be still skilldmg but next fielder hopefully synergize with healing
5:54 body once told me...
Do you think Ragnar better than Alex when pairing with Liuche?
Currently i have 5 marches but one of them are ZL+Aethel. Should i upgrade Germann P or Philip?
i dont know waht to say about huo being niche.
Henry V also tbh, one of my favourites, huge active skill damage and barely loses health in KvK open field, and I don't even have expertise yet.
Please, chisgule, we know you made a mistake, move shajar off of low priority, she isn't good.
She is good with ysg not with other commander, she revived ysg like liu revived Alex.
@chisgule could you go over the garrison/rally commanders and their pairings?
I dont think new players will be able to use the new commander swap. Cause most havent invested anythjng into commanders yet. but this will give new players the ability to invest in two early game commanders untill SOC
I rock WW/Scipio, Liu/Alex, Guan/mehmed, nevsky/joan, does it make sense to max Ragnar, Gorgo, or Conquering Scippio
Chis, i am investing Shajar right now to play with YSG as second march and i was thinking to change YSG with Ashur when commander change event come. But after this video i am kinda confused. What should i do as a F2P.
cav is better bro
Cav dead content if the next commanders arent insane
Lc and Ragnar prime is better for infa😊. Thier defense and damage reduction are awesome
Chizz, updated teir list for garrison commanders and best pairings please
Thx x your vids chis
Could you please make a leadership gear guide?
Hi! I am infarny play and i dont speend money in the game. I have upgrated Sun tzu for infarny. If I invest is Zhuge Liang good for infarny to combo with Sun Tzu? Pls need answer. I really like Zhuge liang. Thanks!
No. ZL does not pair with inf. Liu Che is 100% the Top inf com. New players should inv in Alex to go with Sunzu and then get Liu as Sunzu isn't viable in SoC.
@@winstonwolf6791 New players(f2p) shouldn't invest in alex or else it will hurt their accounts. What are you smoking
@komradekhrushchev2797 I don't know the players that's why I am asking my friend. What if I get Zhuge Liang with who do you suggest I can combine with as a f2p? Thanks
@@illyriangods8657 Hermann Prime. If you want to use zhuge with infantry it doesn't work.
@@illyriangods8657 Herman Prime. You can't run zhuge with infantry commanders it doesn't work. Use infantry commanders for infantry and archer commanders for archers.
16:07 I wonder if one of the new siege will be gold key
I just do not see how Nevsky Joan would be a better march than huo Joan
nevsky debuff is way better than huo
Ive never gotten better results from using Nevsky Joan over Huo Joan, I understand him looking better on paper or during a 1v1 but fighting together is what everyone is doing, and Huos survivability definitely makes the march much better.
@@Randus if you consider 1v1 reports being similar, then nevsky gets better in ball, his debuff gets better surrounding enemies. Overall, whichever you pick is fine
How things reversed in a year. Pre-May 2023 Archers had no top priorities
Did he say William/liu che,Ragnar/Scipio and Zhuge/Herman ? First March is questionable right William and Liu che really
William Wallace seems to be pretty strong, according to other content creators also
@ Iv been using Liu/Alex and it’s been awesome. Deals heavy damage
I have Nevsky Joan & Huo William, somehow in this KVK my Huo scores higher than Nevsky.... I have Ashur Boudica and Zhuge Herman P, the score is a bit... meh... I have Ragnar Prime now and 1200 GH, i dont want to Max Scipio P, maybe I will wait for Philip...
Philip with Liu che
I dont care what anyone says about cav being singe target, inf smite and archer aoe. If one of the next cav doesnt have aoe i swear on everything they have ruined entire cav. I would 100% understand the single target if it was higher damage than aoe. But make it make sense the new archer and infantry commanders have the same AOE damage to 5 targets as 1 cav has to single target. Why would anyone want to chose dealing damage to 1 when we got commander doing same amount of damage to 3-5 targets. Like there is legit no point in cav in that case. Increase single target damage or fcking nerf the sht out of these aoe commanders
and people be saying ''but cav is fast, cav got this and that'' doesnt change the fact that a lc alex march can be faster than most cav marches. Yet another thing that doesnt make any sense at all. An infantrry march being faster than cav maraches?!??
Don’t cry just use other troop types, problem solved
Least complaining cav player:
Cav players finally feeling what Inf players have felt for years 🤣🤣🤣
It's just your turn to be miserable lol.
I'm planning to make a infantry march but not sure who to max
start with liu che
I have a 5111 Martel (44)
And a 5111 Alexander (40)
Which one should i choose to upgrade my skills, or should i wait for SoC
(I'm f2p)@@Chisgule
@@FilipArcta you can expertise Alex and play with him then expertise Liu Che because he makes Alex actually playable in Soc. but id skip alex
@@FilipArcta don’t invest gh into Martel , do Alex , he’s great with LC in SOC
@@Chisguleyeah pretty confusing, in the must have category you have liu and ragnar...
But than at time 12:12 you say for infantry go: william-liu, contrudicting your list😅
So what is it? Liu-ragnar as the list suggest or WW-lui?
what should I swap my alex to? hes my only expertise i also have 5511 i can swap
Liu/alex and Ragnar/Scipio, Guan/Sargon.
@jackrisonjoseph is scipio good at 5511?
Is Henry still worth expertising for the field in soc?
No, Henry and Boudicca are long gone from meta
Is there a kvk that is for siege like they revamp the troops into siege
My LC/alex (all expertised) perform better than scipio P 5551 /LC
I regret invest gh on scipio P
Huo/xy nasty in champions of Olympia
Wth, you said na Ragnar was like 3rd inf march, so didn’t bother now it op :/
when new cav coming?
February
Anyone who says William is bad just doesn't know what they're talking about.
PS: if the new cavs are actually combo based i'll never forgive you.
William is just so old
@@realjohnlove doesn't make him bad. *shrug*
Huo/William straight up performs the same as Huo/Joan.
@@TJMiton ive been avoiding investing in William on my restart. I have Huo, Nevsky maxed, Joan 5225, William 2111. At this juncture investing in William seems like a bad idea. I’ll probably do Philip as an upgrade from Mehmed
Unpopular opinion, gorgo > william
😂😂😂
@@dongandon4087 laugh all you want, you are the one who made the wrong investment
now we have 2 commander swaps who should i invest in kvk1&2? Alex and ysg are safe bet but I think saladin is also good, are there more candidates?
Sala is a strong early comm, but there is nothing about the swaps yet, maybe you cannot swap from kvk1/2 to SoC comms
Man... All my favorite commanders are Trash excepting for one (Ragnar Prime) but; Tariq, YSS, Mehmed II, CJ and Harald are just... Trash 😞
Mehmed is not trash with scipio still good trades and tanky,tariq is still fine but single target but if you swarm something he is very good,i have marches for open field and marches to switch if i swarm players or flags
@GamingBoyka 🥹 really? Oh god that's good to hear
your advice is so terrible, how is huo in the niche role, he literally outperforms nevsky 100% off the time. do you even play the game?