Retrospective: Lady's Guilt | Devil May Cry 5 Analysis
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2021
- "Retrospective" is a series of smaller videos that are dedicated to replying directly to the comments from previous videos. Some are going to be funny. Some are going to take the discussion further. But most importantly, all will help make uploading videos to the channel more consistent lol See yall in the next one :D
Let's take a look back at my analysis in "Lady's Guilt" and see what your reactions were to it in the comments :D
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Devil May Cry Original Fan Music - Heavy Weapons Girl (Lady's Theme) by GVGkid
• Devil May Cry Original... - Ігри
Dante is aware he’s taking on her burden though, it’s actually is a defining moment for his character, lady’s objective is revenge sure but she also feels a sense of personal responsibility, “this is my family’s mess, I should be the one to stop it”, this rubs off on Dante who previously had only cared about running from his problems by killing demons, forcing him to see that this is his problem, this is his family’s problem and thus he has to set things right, in that sense Dante realzes he’s in a similar position to lady and that’s why he takes on her burden
"That's America's job" so true
It also Canada's job as well.
* cries in for-profit healthcare *
@@ChampionAnalysis UK:
@@ChampionAnalysis at least they have a reason to keep you alive
I wish they did more with her in DMCV. I loved the insight she gave Nero at the end, but I would've loved to see more scenes between her and the kid. I like to imagine she's an older sister/aunt figure to him.
She’s kinda like the doting aunty.
I don't know Lady's canon age, but I want to say she was like 17 or so in DMC3 and Dante was 20ish. Please correct me if I am wrong there, but if so she is only a few years younger than Dante, who is Vergil's twin. That makes Lady technically old enough to be Nero's mother. But the way their chemistry is is much closer to older sister or like a younger doting aunt. It really felt like she was trying to save Nero the pain she had felt at killing her own father. Arkham was too far gone and beyond saving from the start. Vergil, despite causing everything that happened in Redgrave City and almost bringing literally Hell on Earth in DMC3, was not. And what Nero really needed was to SAVE his father.
9:40. dude...remember when in mission 18 of dmc5 there is this line:
Griffon:Ya can't kill what's already dead... and a demon is a demon, even in death!
Dante: Not a bad line... I feel the same way.
It's messy to catch as is in the middle of combat, but I have played to much of this game and noticed it....and when I did I paused the game and wanted to go hug uncle Dante
“In my head cannon Lady is Dante’s Ex from just after dmc 3 but Lucia is his true and final love is Lucia cuz he won’t outlive her” ~~my drunk friend trying to beat bloody palace with me
Did you beat it
@@DanteDMC3 got to lvl 66
I wait for your content like a hawk. You never disappoint. Thank you so, so much
I didn't even know this retrospective series existed. It certainly encourages me to comment on your other videos, because as you said, wanting to be acknowledged is a human need. Of course, with that said, I have nothing noteworthy to talk about right now.
Sweet Son of Sparda that opening!
Editing done right! You get a FFH rating for that
Flippin' fun as Hell!
I have been waiting so long for this
Hello, this was posted like 5 seconds ago. Thanks for making awesome videos for us Champion
2:17 oh she definitely outgrew. You can’t stick the bill on a man that doesn’t live in your plane of existence anymore. Dante knew exactly what he was leaving behind
2:51 Okay, speaking on my experience, base on this comment, i had an abusive relationship with my mother, won't go into detail, because i don't feel comfortable sharing that kind of stuff, but what i can say, it's that i didn't and i don't want her to recognize me as someone better then she through, i just wanted her to stop, i did needed that to recover and become a healthy person, but i never wanted that out of her. In fact, i don't want anything to do with her if i can, but it not always about wanting a better interaction with that person, it's about feeling safe from that person. And in my experience, if it's a family member, it can be even worse the feeling of being unsafe, because the rest of your family would want with interact with then and want you to interact with then, not understanding the kind of damage that they are doing to you in the process of forcing you to confront that, not understanding how much it terror it put in you.
I think family members often believe that their blood connection automatically makes their relationship more stable and long lasting than any other, which I don't agree with. I think anyone has the potential to hurt you and family should not be given a free pass just because they are family. I think it is very fair of you to only desire to be safe from your mother. You deserve peace and if being away from that person is the only way to do it then so be it. I cannot imagine how difficult it must be to not have your boundaries respected like that by your own family members, but I can say that you're not in the wrong for wanting space. You don't deserve to feel guilty for wanting that and you didn't deserve to have a toxic relationship with your own mother.
10:52 Mostly likely because he already became a demon. If I would break down the two steps of "evolution" that Arkham planed, then it would go:
1) Sacrifise his own wife to become a demon capaple of reaching the Force Edge. Without the Jester transformation, his plan in dmc3 would've never worked.
2) Since the sacrifised blood needs to be human and Arkham himself has given away his humanity to get that far, his still human daughter has to be the donor. This perspektive makes it possible that ARKHAM was the descendant and not Kalina Ann.
Something interesting would be their Heterochromia being a trait of their linage youst like the Spardas white hair. An red eye symbolising the Demon world and an blue eye symbolising the Human world, fits perfectly to the ones responsible for separating those two worlds.
As someone who hasn't had the greatest of lives, I find that games like Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Overwatch and such help me find a way to see that even super powerful characters struggle with human emotions, and even act as a way to feel like I'm not the only one going through stuff. I find that Lady's story (and Dante's to an extent, but the whole mum and dad thing is switched) is super relatable. It's a pretty long story, which I will probably tell later.
100% People underestimate the power of video games when it comes to telling stories. I can’t even begin to explain the emotional impact that DMC, Overwatch, and Mortal Kombat have had on my childhood
@@sturg0353 I met a girl who would mean more to me then I ever thought possible through Overwatch, unfortunately she is no longer with us...
2:06 I applauded here, lol.
This is a nice surprise, one that I didn't expect but my whole body needs
Yes, redo the Dante video, or not really redo, more like a part 2.
What I do want to see explored is more of Dante and Lady's relationship, yes I may be speaking from a shipper's perspective but I mean come on, they have chemistry and they'd be a fun couple!
I loved that intro, now too watch the video.
I wish i had something insightful too say but the only words that come too me are I enjoyed the video and can't wait for more. I enjoy the channel.
I would totally be all in for a revisit of Dante. Don't misunderstand, I love the OG vid, I'm just biased that the thing I empathize with the character the most was barely adreessed. I'll just keep it short and say I did bad shit in my younger days that were morally wrong and dealt with some sort of life threatening danger, but have since been clean and find myself bored and carefree on the daily. But having a opportunity to do an activity that is a little dangerous (dirt biking, a race of some sort etc.) I feel excited and present, something I see in Dante that few characters have. The scene in 5 especially reminds me of that, as he kind of just brushes V off until he says the name of he who shan't be named.
But I digress, do what content you actually want to do and keep the burn out away man, I'll be here next video regardless
Oh snap I didn’t think my comment would show up here. Thanks dude!
What if virgil won in DMC3
Khalina anne was the descendant of the priestess if the book says it was Arkham that’s a continuity error
Absolutley love your dmc videos, would love see an asuras wrath analysis video from you one day, also a side note: you said in the nero retrospective video that you think Angel's existing in the DMC universe would be boring, I disagree, I like think that if a demon could turn good and save humanity, wouldnt it also be possible for an angel to turn evil?
Maybe an angel could be the next antagonist for the next DMC game, and everyone thinks that they are good just cause they're beings of light. I dunno it would be cool In my opinion.
I really want to see you do Lucia video, but unfortunately DMC 2 didn't give any of us justice in every way and Before Nightmare also not really cover anything.
And also Lucia is the only girl in franchise who literally respect him as he is and unlike Trish and Lady who put a debt in him and make him living in hell.
I'm not as well versed in DMC2, but it Lucia actually strikes me as the most mentally healthy and well adjust Demon Hunter in the series. She didn't know she was a demon, but she was also the one with the most stable home life and the least baggage.
arkham probably thought he needed a priestess from the same bloodline as his and so he engineered the conception of lady for his scheme.
If he poured water in the tank he could flush. But he’d have to get the water
Could kingdom hearts character analysis happen
Just glad to see you're doing alright. Though content IS fire.
I kinda want to see Lucia and dante have a kid
Look up K' from king of fighters he would exactly like that.
Look up Samira from League of Legends and you'll get exactly that as well.
@@jvjv8093 k and samira twins?
CuhRAZY content as usual
This needs more views
7:40
Yeah, I got my own parent issues, I'm not going to drop a full essay, but the TLDR essentially boils down to both of them were rather poor parents for most of my life, and neither of them have changed in all that time.
My "father" is content with forgetting we exist (though my youngest brother who used to actually still tried to be round him, he ruined his relationship with considering he still abuses his SO just like what happened while he was with my mother and tried to choke said brother), and my mother abuses drugs and despite people trying to help her stop using them, she'll pretend she's getting "clean" for a bit then stop, after she gets thrown out she tries to get back into one of my brother's good graces.
However the middle of the three and the youngest is done giving her chances and I already knew she was a lost cause years ago, and while I have already been diagnosed with a rather severe case of depression (though I'm good at putting on a happy face when needed so most people never realize), given that the youngest was diagnosed with PTSD, I wouldn't be surprised if Me and the Middle brother also have it, especially considering how much of our parents fighting (like actual fighting, I.E one time my "father" smashed my mother's head against a basement's cement floor) we were exposed to as kids.
Though when it comes to Devil May Cry, I find Nero and Lady to be the most relatable characters, especially knowing what their life experiences have been like.
I'm going to see if this works even here.
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROOOOOACHING
On that comment about loving your parents I think what the commenter said rings a bit more true. I wont go into the gory details but I'm estranged from both my parents by choice. Only one was abusive, my mother, the other had their own issues and our relationship was very distant and marred in my mothers BS. I'm disappointed, but I don't hate him, its just easier for both of us to keep our distance and enjoy our own peace. Now that I'm the age that a lot of this stuff went down for them I understand it a lot more, which also makes me hate my mother all the more. She had plenty of choice and chose poorly every time.
There's something wrong with her mentally, some untreated cluster B type personality issues, shes a nice mix of APD and NPD. I have a 10 ACE score because of her and I wish I could foot her all the medical bills Ive incurred due to her cruel selfishness. The best anecdotes I can tell you about what kind of woman she is are the time she 'knew' and sold me and waht she'd do with my bio dad, who didn't know about me till I was 5 as she cucked her husband with my dad. She didn't give 2 hoots about the sperm donor until she learned about child support. I had a funny uncle, stuff went on for years and I found out later that she knew about it and did nothing. She didn't want to look bad by having a 'used' daughter and she got free babysitting and some cash out of it.
And as for my dad, he tried for years to maintain a relationship with me but he really wanted nothing to do with my mother, and if she can't have him no one can. Anything he sent me got trashed before I could see it, he's call and she'd lie, meetings were canceled. My grandparents (mothers side) had to 'smuggle' me on a trip to see him at least once in a 5 year span, they lied and said we'd be gone all week for a tournament but 3 of those days was to visit him as well. After a while of all that he just couldn't take it anymore, we still talk for a few minutes every couple years to check on each other but thats it. The last conversation I had with my mother was 10 years ago when she called me an unlovable and threatened to end it if I didn't let her use me to commit tax fraud and steal from me again, I told her good luck and to fuck off forever.
What I feel for my father is like a resignated sadness, wondering what could have been and accepting that's just not going to happen. It doesn't pop up that often or feel very intense. What I feel towards my mother is like a little hot coal in my stomach that wont die, and when it fires up it burns everything. Its a special kind of hatred you can only feel for someone who you resent having any emotion for. I like the quote in the silent hill movie about mothers being gods, because you really can't help it to some degree. I'd probably feel worse and/or stronger about my father if we'd had a relationship, but I hate her more because we did and all this happened anyways. I was her daughter, always was from day one, yet she chose to do the things she did. I expect that the day I learn of her death will be one of my bad ones. I know I'll be elated to know shes finally got hers and it'll be over, but it will be over and that's it. No more chances. I know it will never happen, but all of us dream that one day they'll call and actually care for once in their life. That they'll say they love us and it wont be fake. The finality of death ends those possibilities, not matter how unlikely they were to begin with. And for that I hate her with a cold bitterness like you wouldn't believe.
When I lived in Mexico I used to use a toilet that never flushed
Gta 5 - Franklin Uncharted franchise - Nathan Drake
seeing u did a minute take on Sephiroth, Id love 2 see u cover FF7
or react to Death Battle Vergil vs Sephiroth. id love 2 hear your take on that
peace
DMCV Lady still has some guilt over her as she tells Nero you can never get over that, because she's not a cold manipulative man like his father...Or she leaving the bills to Dante in the anime and trying to steal his home...Yikes...
In all honesty after watching these videos I don't think Dante is in as bad of debt as the Fandom thinks he is, I think I remember Kamiya saying Dante is very responsible at one point too, its just around the anime his friends are just spending his money but I think he also doesn't care either because of what those friends had to go through. Everything that happened with Grue and his daughters Dante blamed himself for it and now he sends money to his two living daughters, Lady and everything she went through because of her father, Trish being a creation of mundus going against her creator with no place to call home, Patty with her mother and the demons trying to take her fortune, probably made him feel like any issue with demons is indirectly his fault which is why in the DMC anime he doesn't put up much of a fight or seem to care too much whenever Lady, Trish, or Patty buys things and dumps the bill on him. Also I've noticed everytime Dante is indebted to Lady, Trish, Patty, or Morrison is actually when he makes bets with them except they're all usually one sided, using Lady playing pool for example, when they make a bet playing pool she usually always makes it in, if Dante really wanted to win and really didn't want to be in debt he would've either been the one to knock all the balls in himself, which he's shown he could do or just wouldn't constantly take the bets. Lastly I feel like his main reason for accepting all these bets and constantly going into debt is because, like everyone says, he is very lazy. Being in debt is a really good reason most feel like they have to do something, hell even with myself if there is something I have to do or something of mine thats fragile I usually don't care for it too much or do it immediately because it is mine, however if someone else needs me to do something I usually won't push it back and it will get done ontime because I don't like disappointing others or if I have something fragile and it's mine ill treat it with more care then something that I own because if I break that item I feel like I owe them it or something in equal value in return. I believe the cast of the dmc crew also knows this as well because in the DMC DVD drama that takes place during or after the dmc animes Dante does a job for Enzo a demon possess Enzo's arm and before or after helping Enzo Dante has him agree that because of the help Dante is no longer indebt to him and he can get his devil arms back but immediately after helping him Dante doesn't take the devil arms he leaves them for Enzo to continue to keep and when Patty asks about it since it would put Dante back in debt Morrison tells her that its a gesture of friendship. Patty is not only confused but realized maybe Dante doesn't owe people money because he is lazy.
This next one is about possible proof of Dante's laziness episode 2 of the DMC anime he straight up tells Patty he's all about 1 day work weeks
Honestly I realize that lady is kinda like Dante in a sense shes not goofy but she has suffered trauma and how is see it is her and Dante do go down the same path but where Dante never fully had a plan lady had a goal. To kill Arkham. And though Dante had taken down mundus he had already lost alot, his brother, his mom, etc, etc, and even though he acts like the same goof we know and love Dante never truly found closure lady did and is going through the process of moving past it I guess
This probably doesn't make sense
But then again I don't think the whole being a half demon half human demon hunter probably wouldn't go over so we'll since well in my opinion Dante shunned his demon half and that's probably because of what happened to him, demons attacked him and his family so it's understandable that he would shun that part and since he is part demon he can never fully get closure
Doing a remake of dante's video, even just other videos you think deserve to be remade or something like that, would be amazing.
Just my speculation, but in Trinity of Fate; I think the reason that Arkham can’t harm himself to awaken the tower or what because after he sacrificed a couple of people and his wife...his descendant’s blood turn into demon blood. So...would that make sense, again it’s a speculation.
Finally!
i've been thinking about this and i think Dante should use rebellion to absorb the qliphoth to become more demon and to make his own version of Urizen in this alternate universe just my opinion though as it would more like the main canon again just my opinion
Ya walked into this one: 9:36 Vergil: *off in the distant background*
"WHERE'S YOUR MOTIVATION?"
Also, are we sure her mom's name was Kalina Ann? Or was her mom's name just "Ann" and she added the Kalina bit? It feels like a really odd name for a woman, even by devil may cry standards.
Can we ever get a analysis on Eva and Sparda?
Kalina Ann not being the descendant of the priestess is a retcon.
6:59. I don’t mean to diminish what they went through, but it sounds to me like this Electric Blues character is trying to reconcile the fact that - even though their father was very clearly a selfish man-slut - he still genuinely tried to make an effort to support his family; and that this hatred and contempt they have for him may be more than a little unfair. He certainly abandoned his marriage - which is good indication that they never should’ve married to begin with - but he didn’t abandon or overtly abuse his family from what I gathered from this post.
Aggressive, edgy and cringe comments, even though some were okay - but oof! I hope this doesn't get too personal the next video in the future, no offense - I'd keep it low but you know what I mean. I do have respects for you, man.
Btw, Video games is art and a stress-relief and since it's not therapy, it can at times feel relatable and that can happen in novels, comicbooks, mangas, movies and TV shows etc.
Where did you get the voiceline for Vergil saying Juvenile?
I searched "Vergil Voice lines" on youtube and someone made a compilation of a lot of them. I listened to the whole video to pick a line.
just a request can u do a red hood video he's a dc character
enjoy the vid
So for me, someone who lives in a family that is founded on emotional and verbal abuse as well as being tortured (quite literally I was waterboarded for an hour) by my brothers I didn’t need some type of niceness to feel guilty for my anger. Being called a monster for throwing a car made me feel guilty. Being ignored for weeks on end because I said something someone didn’t like made me to now feel like if people don’t respond in 10 minutes that I did something wrong. But the nice parts of my family, which I now see was for control, made me feel like my anger was invalid. I had that going on and I’m bisexual which caused me to live in fear of my family because of their homophobia to the point my younger brother tried to kill me because I had a ponytail. I’m a swordsman. He tried to kill me because I had my hair in a ponytail to keep it out of my face during practice. I didn’t have something like my father kill my mother and then attempt to kill me. No I was abandoned by my parents. I’ve never once met my biological mother and my father only once and he told me leaving was the best decision of his life. I have superhuman strength when I’m mad. I’ve thrown cars, bent light poles, punched a brick to dust. That made things worse. It gave my family justification to abuse me. And it gave me a point of guilt. I love lady as a character because of how relatable she is for me. It’s why I like characters like Shinra from fire force or Natsu from fairy tale. They have a power that is beyond anyone’s, but unlike myself they have people who love them for it. I dream to have that life. After my best friend died in my arms I wanted that more than anything. So I get how lady feels with wanting someone to accept her and share her burden. It’s why in truth I believe that for Lady, Dante is like a brother she could never replace. She might act annoyed by him at times and screw him over at times but I think him and Trish are the main two people Lady considers her family. They share her burden and don’t mock or degrade her for who she is. They accept her willingly. I hope everyone finds that one day.
I share my story now when it’s able to be shared cause I realized the more I keep it down the harder it became to be me to the point I shut down all emotions to the point I hadn’t laughed in 6 years. The first time I really laughed after that I cried as I laughed. I couldn’t believe how good it felt. I encourage everyone to share your story even if it’s just a personal recording. It helps to realize it all happened and stopped me from disassociating to the point I had two sides. I had two sides and the second one was extremely violent to protect me. It got to the point that, since I didn’t tell anyone about my two sides, I became known as the dragon sin of wrath from when I threw a fence post through a car. But that wasn’t me. It was him. And it was after being almost trampled going to the bus.
could you make a take on league recent addition " Viego The Ruined King" .... beacuse i think his motivations are kinda understandable it got a trauma like many characters , but many people regard him as just a "simp"
edit: i think this is beacuse your first experience in love is way more important that some times the one that is you settle down with , aslo 10:50 arkham relize he needed the blood after he had beacome a deamon , so his blood wasnt pure ( people have the theory that even if the fact that deamon blood has nothing to do with it .... well arkham wasnt a virgin anymore and in a lot of demonic rituals and witchery virgin blood well has strong "magical" properties look at dark souls bloodborne the game is center around it)
I do have thoughts on Viego actually. Maybe with the new event out its a good time to at least put some of those thoughts into writing
Bold of you to assume that Dante poops
I would love to hear one of your character analyses on some member of Guilty Gear or Blazblue's cast, but the sad truth is that if you're not already into these franchises, I have no idea where to recommend you to look up their stories.
These games' stories, while beautiful for many things, are a damn mess
Definitely make another video of dante. I think you were on point though even though you fan boy over him lol
I disagree with thejoeeffect. Everyone handles resentment and trauma of their abuse differently; and as an abuse survivor myself, who had it so horrible that I was later put into fostercare by the state, I feel no qualms with resenting my abusers or my biofamily, and I frequently daydream about the horrible things I wish would happen to them. I feel no conflict over my resentment, I hate my abusers; and I want them dead.
But this in itself is a problem; I haven't seen my biofamily in 11 years, save for a few siblings who were also placed in Care, but were later scattered because the foster-system sucks; but despite how much time has passed, I'm 25 years old now for fuck's sake, and despite how different things are in my life; they still live rent free in my head, and I hate them for it; and I have no problem hating them for it.
Thejoeeffect, you do not speak for all of us; you speak for you.
Also maybe first?