Tactics Ogre Reborn Preview (This is Quickly Becoming My Favorite Version)
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2022
- Tactics Ogre Reborn Preview and First Impressions from my first 12 hours with the game. I can't believe it, this is exactly what I wanted. They've essentially distilled what the long term fans have experienced through challenge runs and the like into an approachable package that feels as easy to manage as Classic, with the depth of Remake, the immediate understandability of Final Fantasy Tactics, and many aspects from Knight of Lodis, OB64, and March of the Black Queen in there for good measure.
While I would like to some some changes, like pixellated sprites (Which likely would look funky, to be honest), an option to change the schwing sounds (Which feel very Classic to me, but they go through my headphones when my wife is sleeping nearby), or profiles for save files...this is seriously everything I wanted and then some. - Ігри
For all the good work you have done promoting this game, you deserve an early preview copy.
Well thank ya, I like to give them sales ,🤣
Coffee earned more than that. Matsuno owe him a kiss on both cheeks.
@@shaihuludkido Hah, no, I'm good, I just talk about the game, them folks made these legendary things.
I wouldn’t even have known the remake existed if I didn’t see this video.
@@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson I'm glad to help, then! Hilariously this is by far more marketing than the whole series has gotten officially, so you can imagine how much folks have heard of the others! ....or even owned a Neo Geo Pocket, in one case.
Other Notable Details I Missed:
-Prepared Action Moves are stackable
-Some finisher ranges changed, like Ruination being 2 tiles
-Finishers unlock at Ganpp.
-Training in Chapter 1, at least, has set units that adapt their loadouts over time.
-Catiua is appreciably snarky, it's very fitting. Again on that list of "not how I pictured it, but I love it". Vyce sounds unsure of himself when questioned, which made me smile. While I probably won't play with voices because of always clicking through, I appreciate their inclusion.
-Mouse feels great for this, I just wanted to reiterate that it was possible on the Switch version.
-AI uses their skills when appropriate. Noticed after the fact that I said they were automatic. Might have been excited to share this info.
-Pincer Gryphs can leapfrog through your party, that was pretty neat.
-I'm sure our favorite coding geniuses will figure out the calculations soon enough, but I think the armor system works differently.
-Shields provide less armor, but far more power than before. They seem to possibly ignore armor ratings.
-Cudgels so far all have 1 Atk.
-It feels weird visiting every city map instead it the outsides, but it feels very...TO Classic.
-The reflections on the water look weirdly good.
-Vyce's horse has a new sound too, I think.
-Your in battle saves are erased on load, which kind of makes me wonder if we'll see some competitive No Chariot stats or something.
-Cards by the end of Chapter 1 are Phys+, Mag+, Skill+, and Clear, outside of stat cards.
-Drops feel guaranteed again.
-Insulting Hamilton still gives you a lady squad.
Vince(Vyce as I called him) is weird. Refuse to kill Balmamusa and he reveals himself as this bloodlust psychopath; Ok, lets kill civilians bro! ... now he reveals himself as a beacon of morality, honor and justice.
His only personality is to chose the opposite of Denam just because 🤣 Memes incoming.
"-Your in battle saves are erased on load, which kind of makes me wonder if we'll see some competitive No Chariot stats or something."
Oh ****, this is bad.
"-Drops feel guaranteed again."
Nevermind, crisis (hopefully) averted.
I'm sorry I like the psp version way better this isn't definitive to me they shoulda just ported that psp version on pc
@@Millib6 you’ve played it already?
@@Millib6 I would love all remakes to include the original game. Being able to play Doom 1 and Doom 2 inside Doom Eternal(not a remake) was AWESOME.
Oooh early look for one of the most passionate creators 🙏
Aww, thanks, I try!
God I can't wait for this game. Tactics Ogre has always been one of my favorites, I've missed this art style and I've been buzzing with each week as the release gets closer. so flipping excited.
It's so close, I'm really glad that they seem to have nailed it.
Hell yeah. I won't be buying day 1 as I actually have a game going right now on the original SNES version (w translation patch) but someday when the price is down to $10 or so, I'll pick it up. This could also be an example of a game that increases in value over time
@@SolidNate99 I personally am getting it day 1. not gonna lie: I'm looking forward to actually playing it next month.
Tactics Ogre, FFT, Shining Force....the foundational games that created my love of this hobby.
this man could go for houuuuurs on this game. So funny and great how passionate you are about this. I never played this game before but I just pre bought the game on steam today. can't wait to do my first run (and probably bad ending)
Absolutely. I love my depressing chess, and I'm glad to test anything you're curious about!
@@CoffeePotato this is my new favorite way to explain this game to people 😂 "depressing chess"!! I have been raving for months about the game to all my friends, they really don't understand why I like it so much because they all play call of duty and main stream stuff like that unfortunately
Tactics ogre is badass and I'm glad the world get more exposure to it. I've played it off and on for 20 years.
Same here, I'm so glad to see it getting covered so much for the first time ever lately.
Your enthusiasm and passion for this game I can definitely relate with, I never played Tactics Ogre before, but have played FF Tactics (my favorite PS1 game) and Ogre Battle 64 (my favorite N64 game), and both are in my top 5 games of all time. Now that I've played this...... it's like the ULTIMATE love child of those two games very dear to me, and I absolutely love it. It might be my favorite game ever, and I can't get enough of it. Everything about it just seems perfect, I'll probably play this game for many years to come. Subscribed :)
Thanks for the video! This detailed glimpse at the remaster of the game has me excited for the release. Tactics Ogre is one of my favorite RPGs ever, and probably my favorite tactical RPG of all time. Looking forward to it!
Great way to start the day! As stoked as you are in the intro I'm sure it's going to be the definitive version.
I'm loving it so far, these guys have a great track record, and we already know the skeleton is solid.
Congrats to you for getting this opportunity! Very cool!
Also, Victory is track 69. Nice.
Hah! I completely missed that!
You sound so genuinely happy. This is incredibly cool! Of all the people that play these games I'm glad you got early access. :D
I was really excited to, this was awesome!
It's so great to hear your enthusiasm for this version. I enjoyed what I played with the PSP version, but there were enough small things with the systems that were too time-consuming for me to continue. A lot of these changes sound really great, and I'm excited to jump back in with Reborn.
If that was your reason for burning out on TO PSP, you are far from alone, and this version absolutely nails the best of both worlds there in a way that doesn't take too much time. Technically, the original could also be quick, but it took a lot of game knowledge to make that happen.
I keep seeing people comparing it to another games released ins the last 3-4 years, quote another game that can do the same.
This game is single handed one of the most incredible pieces of game development in the story of video game.
the nice thing is that you can almost SEE him smiling in the begining of the video
you deserve and early copy AND a statue of you in their offices
Aww, thanks, though I think I got lucky enough that my wife wants to see me every day, that might be a bit much. It's been awesome to have a chance to cover this alongside the big names that usually get these!
Thank you for your channel :) Good stuff about the amazing game :)
Glad you liked it, only a couple weeks now!
First time watching one of your videos. Loved it and subbed!!
Glad you liked it! I do my best to cover the odd and crazy world of the Ogre games! Also other stuff!
Awesome happy for you 😄.
you deserve it, and you did really great work for this game 😎.
Glad to help, I love this thing!
Immediately had to come see your opinion. Glad to see you’re pleased.
Oh my gosh!!! So cool seeing this played and that you got to mess with this c:
I loved it, but now is the time for science. Feel free to drop any questions you'd like tested.
I love how giddy you sound here mate.
Ditto on the 'how i wanted the game to be' Combining systems and mechanics from the PS1/Snes and the PSP remake along side a lot of new stuff is IMO the perfect blend really.
It is, and it feels so seamless to build units now.
@@CoffeePotato Can't wait.
Definitive edition from you is high praise!
Honestly this feels like playing the original optimally and then some, without the prep work. It's a great feeling.
I’m beyond excited for this game. First played TO back in about 2000 and still have the PS and the PSP version (along with OG for PS and OG64 I couldn’t get enough). This franchise also got me into the Song of Ice and Fire series by someone comparing the politics in the stories, so I have it to thank for getting me there before it exploded in popularity.
Sometimes you just need that little dash of conspiracy with your dragons, that's for sure. I'm super hopeful that this will all get the rest of the series some love too.
I'm just sad we'll probably never get another entry in the series after Knight of Lodis. Something from either the Strategy or Tactics side of games would be great because they were leading up to the "Oh sh*t" moment after OG64.
im glad you got the game early and that you enjoy it. i cant wait to play it as ive really only played up to like ch2 or something on psp
I just listened to someone ramble passionately about this game for 1 hr. I wonder how long the review will be haha. Keep up the good work!
Oh ... it's going to be thorough. 👌
Awesome! Thank you for the preview. I'm super excited now for this release.
Edit: "You can't bring your PC" - SteamDeck (or other handhelds). Best of both worlds.
I was trying hard to stay tight lipped on this all week 🤣
finally i find time to watch this, really appreciate your job breaking down Reborn and you must done really good job for sony to give early version 👊
Squenix, not Sony, but they said to preview in my own way, and so I did. It's been a real treat so far.
Hearing how excited you are for this version just makes me even more hyped!
Glad to help in the hype train!
I love how absolutely enthused you are; I can't wait to play too
It's such a charming game, I love it.
By this point anyone using the excuse that this is just a port version don't want admit they are wrong.
It's hard to overstate how much of an improvement it is.
wow, you got early access. good going man! It couldn't end up in better hands, haha
I'm glad to share what I can, this is awesome!
From the videos I have watched about reborn, it feels like they implemented a lot of the fixes found in the One vision mod as well as a few others
Can't wait I'm buying this game for my self as my birthday present. Also bought fell seal because of your videos. The art kinda threw me but got past that fast once I got to see how fun it is
It's a great time to be an SRPG fan!
Whaaaat! You have a early copy? I'm super jealous, and the excitement in your voice is only makin it more so!
I can't help it, this is exactly what I've been hoping for..
@@CoffeePotato 🥳
Congrats on getting a copy, ur getting me soo excited for this game I can’t wait !!
Would u say in chapter one the story has been the same and the choices you make have the same results as the psp version ?
The choices and consequences have been the same, in a good way. I think it's literally the same, even oddly specific stuff like insulting Lans 3 times to get an all girl squad is there.
Congratulations for the 4K subs!
Thank You! I really should start doing something for these, huh?
@@CoffeePotato If you want yes.
On another topic: do you have a Twitter account so I can follow you? There is a link in your YT channel, but it seems to not be working at the moment.
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 I used to. One day it got randomly suspended, they never told me why, and after two months of asking, they fixed the problem by making it permanent and still not yelling me why. I don't do social media much, hard to rant on end about obscure game mechanics with a character limit.
This is a glorious time to be alive.
It really is!
Woah woah woah...I got 3 minutes in thinking this must be a review of footage released from Twitter or so. Then I see the Allegiance...you lucky man. I will be finishing this video when I have solid free time to absorb this prelude to the official release.
I was really surprised when it happened
Excellent f$%!'n video dood. Interrupted this vid halfway through to check out your Let's Ramble: aOB video. Love the overall enthusiasm, while simultaneously being both informative, and insightful. Definitely getting this game Day 1. Here's hoping Square Enix & Algebra Factory remake FFT:WotL & FFTA2 with as much passion as they did this game!
Dude, that would be a dream come true. I mean I was skeptical at the idea that they could de-complicate Vagrant Story while keeping the depth too, but after seeing what they've done here, whoo boy, I want to see their take on everything.
I'm so Hyped for this I just pre-ordered it on PS5 11/11 can't come soon enough. I'm also Hyped for the Suikoden remasters! what a time to be a gamer!
This is a fantastic to be a fan of great games. We also just saw signs of Parasite Eve making a comeback
Never played TO im very intrested on the game and even tho i dont understan most you are talking about i still been watching ur latest videos i guess it means they are intresting so good job mate
It's quite the rabbit hole. TO is an incredible game in any version, it's just crazy to see it get remade again
Excited for this game 🤘
Thanks. You're doing so many videos that are interesting and I just wanted to say thank you about it.
Really hyped about this remake, I've knew this serie with the PSP Remake and can't wait to discover it in a better way now!
Glad to entertain, thank you for enjoying them!
Thank you for this video. I trust your opinion because you know the earlier games inside and out. Grew up playing the PSOne version and had a lot of great times with PSP and I'm anxious with excitement to have this on PC. i'm expecting it to be 10/10 "really makes you feel like tactics ogre reborn" for me
It's weird, because on paper, the changes should dislodge more, but it just comes together really smoothly.
Thanks for your awesome work you're doing for us ! I can't wait to play. I have a few questions :
1) Does the Parry mechanic being more frequent makes it frustrating ?
2) Can you use recruit on the training units you're facing ?
3) Damn, seeing the Rogues on enemy teams makes me miss them already.
1- Nope, it feels awesome so far, it's great seeing everyone brawling it out. It's reminiscent of what used to be the Coda chapters brought forward in terms of feel.
2- You cannot.
3- Oh shoot, I missed that they were even there, sneaky little things.
The Rogue thing still bugs me. I have to assume there's something human players could do with them that the AI couldn't get around but it bugs me that they went the lazy route of removing them rather than fixing it. I know, time and money, whatever, still annoying.
@@KnightRaymund I always used to make Sara a Rogue, I will miss that. Guess it's Kunoichi time for her
Grats on receiving a preview edition. With how square recently has been giving out demo s do you think there will be one for this? Is this the steam version coz you mentioned mouse. Also is there some way to grind without leveling/Denem keeping enemy lv low?
I just hooked a USB keyboard and mouse to the Switch, this is the Switch version. I doubt there will be a demo, being so close to release now. You're level capped, so training is more of an Armored Core like test mode than a grind mode.
Solid, I am excited about this, the soundtrack in particular is absolutely ace. Another person confirmed that all the Ogre Battle MOTBQ arrangements are in the soundtrack, including my favorite, "Viking Spirits", can you confirm that once and for all for me?
It's outside of the confirmation chapters allowed. Which should honestly say something. But yeah, I've been loving that it's not just recreation, these themes hit different.
@@CoffeePotato aye, I will say, most of the soundtrack list is confirmed as per SE themselves. Yup, "Viking Spirits" is, in fact, on the song list. I can't wait to hear, hope they capture what made the PSP arrangement of that song so damn amazing.
Great to hear. Can you talk about fun new builds prior to the release of the game? I like planning out stuff and you've been the youtuber I follow for years whenever I come back to Tactics Ogre
Absolutely, I'll share what I can when the next one comes out. I've been trying to put together a list of tests that folks have been asking for.
This looks gorgeous in motion I can’t wait to play
It plays even better.
I am so excited, it is such a wonder to finally see TOLUCT come to modern consoles again.
It feels very nice on the wide gameboy
I would love to see a new tier list for all the classes based on reborn. I watched your previous tier list in preparation for reborn but it seems like it has changed a great deal and many classes could have moved up or down a tier or two based on the many changes implemented in reborn.
Oh, absolutely. First I suppose I need to make a new Twitter account...annoyingly Tier Maker is tied to that, Twitter randomly did a Twitter to mine ages ago, and now I have to remake that whole thing again to do so.
That said, absolutely, it'll happen!
Wow I had no idea about community around this title. I’m just hyped for this after playing triangle strat lol
Yup, we're a small, but enthusiastic bunch!
This was wonderful
Glad you liked it!
Can't wait to mess around with the recruit skills in Phorampa Woods, I hope those early Swordmasters are still there
We'll have to see when the time comes!
Pretty cool stuff ngl!
CP... did... did you get the goods?!?!?! 👀 Square Enix came through?!?! 😲
The goods have been acquired. They are glorious.
Target acquired, lol
@@CoffeePotato so happy for you
I never played much of the PSP version because the amount of grind was just ridiculous. iirc to get heal to level 2 required hundreds of casts so it's nice to see that that's been minimized. I really wanted to experience the changes they made to the story for that version so I'm very stoked to play this one.
True, and that's been simplified, though technically part of PSP's beauty was that you didn't really need to. It never conveyed this well enough, though, which is why I love Reborn so much. Technically you could improve your healing at any time to it's max by just using Healcraft. It just never went up by much. One simple store bought bag of dust did the same as Rank 12 Aug Light, Rank 12 Anatomy, and maxed Divine Prevailing Element. It just caps early. Funnily enough was just covered in a video that should be up today.
This looks fantastic. Thank you so much. Two questions though, if you would:
What happens to equipped items upon character death? Do you lose them or do they go back to your inventory?
Also, is Recruit generic now? Did they do away with one skill for each race? I'd really like to recruit some ghosts and not have to go down a specific classline to get a lizard. Or you know, actually use Umbra units before Super Endgame Double++.
At 48:27 you can see that Subdue and Tame are still in the game
So you still need different skills to recruit
Recruit is still for different races, but it does come way sooner, it seems. Inventory is dropped in a bag, but you don't lose it.
First, congrats man! If anyone deserves to be given a preview build, it's you. You've been keeping the Tactics Ogre lighthouse lit for a while now when no one else would. You do need to calm down maybe a smidge before you record though. I get it, but you're so excited here you're kind of all over the place, lol.
2nd, I notice that all of those weapons that say counterattack 1 on them, is that because they're early game weapons, or do weapon skills on the weapons themselves level up with use? Do you know this/can you say?
So far, it looks great for the most part. I'm not sure about the *rate* of those cards dropping, it seems a bit excessive to me with cards dropping every turn, but that's not the worst thing. And it's a little sad they didn't correct the overly fat arrows and bolts from the PSP version back to the nice slim SNES/PSX arrows, but that's a minor pet peeve of mine and mine alone it seems.
I didn't realize training was going with OB64 style rather than original LuCT style. Does it cost money like in OB64?
Also, my burning question: Angel Knights. Are they still absurdly obscure like in the PSP version, or could engineer one pretty reliably like in the SNES/PSX version?
Ok, so in order, and that's very nice of you, thank you!:
1- Yes, I did, for the first few takes, but kept getting interrupted, so finally I was just like "I got one shot to try and get this as good as I can and can deep dive on details later, let's go"
2- The cards change in intensity depending on situation. So you start off with a smattering along the middle, but then they stop and go, kind of like how Worms handled box drops. Speaking of boxes, if you want more than what's on field, you can break props for cards too. I have a feeling they probably would have done those arrows, but this was the thing in the engine already. PC mods.
3- Training is free, but mostly a test mode and gives you levels/ranks/charms.
4- I haven't the foggiest, and couldn't say if I did 🫢
So glad I beat Trails to Zero in time for this. I have it waiting on my Steam wishlist ready to buy day 1.
Two weeks to go!
I only played FFT, didn’t even know this game existed. I’m pumped to try it.
Part of the original dev team of Tactics Ogre (both the original and the remake), has worked in FF Tactics, FFXII, FFXIV and even FFXVI. So rest assure that quality is a given!
Subscribed just to know more about this game! I played the PSP version TOLUCT but wasn't able to finish it because my save file got corrupted and then I got demoralized 😢😭, that was years ago and all I remember I was playing a tower to get some character or weapon I just don't remember very well.
I'm eagerly anticipating this remaster/remake and hope to start fresh with a more streamlined version for people with little time to play!
I've already seen a couple videos and hope to see a guide for the new version soon!
I'm going to release more as I'm able. I had two that were planned, then ran into audio issues, but there will be more.
There's guides, breakdowns, and more to come when I'm allowed to.
@@CoffeePotato Very nice! I don't know/remember how long this gmae is, but I believe I had already invested at least 100 hrs on the PSP version.
Starting over again will be a new chance to experience the story and complete everything for sure this time!
Was the tower with several levels part of the endgame?
One of my most played PSP games. I hope this means they will revive the Ogre series, I really want another Ogre Battle game.
Same here, it would be a dream come true. Hell, this already is.
you should try snes version - it's far superior to psp/psx
@@nibelungvalesti I'm not sure by what logic, but to each their own. SNES music is preferred by some, but only 3 save slots and the fun save corruption glitch always kept me away from that version. The angles on PSX look nicer in my opinion, and the utterly insane mechanical depth of PSP is always a great time.
seeing you so happy and excited just fills my heart and urgh I wanna play this game SO bad. Btw do you have a discord server? I tried to check your twitter but it didn't go so well 😞
discord.gg/2HzY5DHA is the best one. Yeah...Twitter up and old yeller'd my account out of the blue a couple months ago. I never did find out why.
you got to play it befor me!
cant be mad, you deserve it 😉
Thank You kindly!
I am really happy they sent you the review version, I don't really trust anyone else review of this game. Not sure if I lost when you were talking about it but how does the map train works on reborn? I remember avoiding farming random encounters on the PSP version due to loyalty loss. How does it work on this version? Can you spam it to improve your party?
You can spam it, but it goes up to a cap on level and skills. You can use it to max to allowed levels if you want, but it's perfectly doable without it if you play well as far as I've covered. Feels like a solid overall move in my book. Thank You for the kind words!
I'm looking forward to a let's play coming out as the game is actually released for everyone
I mean...I never said I wouldn't 🤣
This is going to be my first TO game. I cant wait!
It's a fantastic one. Just know that behind everything, there's always something else. I forgot to mention it in this one, but even minor things count. Insult Hamilton 3 times at the start, and he sends you out with an all girl squad for some reason. Everything's a mechanic somewhere.
@@CoffeePotato thank you for the reply! I love those little random things that happen in games! 😆
Fuck yeah, there is so much new stuff to explore. Can't wait until the 11th!!!!
Soon!
So excited.
I’m hoping drops are indeed guaranteed. Thinking of the recipes from ch3/4 and the unique weapons. That was what I used to use same-turn chariot for. Would suck if those rate drops aren’t guaranteed with chariot nerfed.
The experience seems weighted towards being buttery smooth without losing the stuff that made the original deep. We'll see when it can be covered, but I'm sure it'll be fine.
That's what mods are for. I am sure someone out there would mod better drop rates into the game.
@@maxwellsope1080 I wouldn't worry about drop rates anymore.
7 more days until the release of Tactics Ogre Reborn!
SOON!
Congragulations on the early preview!
I am extremely sad we can'g rename Denam. Hopefully, a PC mod comes out to rectify that.
I'm sure it will, and I really expected to be more bugged by that, but I guess after years of just calling him Denam, it's kind of unnoticeable after a while. The main downside is the lack of names on save files for us weirdos that have maxed out save slots and nonsense like that.
@@CoffeePotato This is one of those old games where I always used to name the protagonist something else, in this case I named him after a Paladin character I was running when I was playing AD&D when I was 15 years old. So, to me Denam without that name just doesn't feel right. I know I am on the minority here, but I just wish I could rename it even if it means everyone will call him Denam on the voice over, as I am most likely shutting those off.
@@GamerGarm Someone actually asked about that on Twitter, Word of God is you CAN rename him....after beating the Game.
He's still Denam in Voice Acting though.
I just randomly thought of the original SNES game earlier today. It led me here. I didn’t even realize the game had been remade.
I also didn’t get to play the original very much. Can’t wait to try the new version.
Life finds a way, huh? Yeah, this remake is really taking the cake so far. Every time I find something to stubbornly gripe about, it's like an invisible hand to the back of the head like "no, look, we made it better over here like this."
@@CoffeePotato I really found it odd that I happened to think of an obscure game I barely played at roughly the same time the remake was being released.
I suppose it wasn’t exactly random since I’ve been playing a lot of Battle Brothers lately. The games have a few similarities. Speaking of which, that might be another game you could make videos for, seems right up your alley.
@@Brocuzgodlocdunfamdogson Oh, I love BB, it would have been up on my recently played right next to Fell Seal of my daughter hadn't borrowed my Switch for her games 🤣
Nice vid, can't wait to relive old memories, how are the keyboard controls for this?
As good as XCOM 2, it feels absolutely natural. Honestly I'd argue it's probably far better on M/K, but I just have my button preferences.
Something I'm wondering, is the battle UI just fully different from the earlier screenshots, or was it an option you changed to make it look different.
On another note, I'm so happy you got to do this. For weeks I've been thinking just how much I would benefit from even seeing as little as a few minutes of continuous gameplay, so to have this is more than I could have asked.
I will keep sharing what I'm allowed to, and yeah, you can toggle a lot of different UI settings.
Good get sir! Enjoy.
I do, it's awesome!
Very excited for this game! Do you think ogre battle 64 will get the same treatment in the future?
I sure hope so!
Will you do any beginner guide for beginners for tactial orge reborn? Like what to do and what not to do or something like that.AND are you suppose to train all of your units or just focous on like 12??
I will, but this is the smoothest "just build and have fun" experience of the series by far.
I don't remember if they show up chapter 1 or if asked, but thrown weapons are they you need to have them in your inventory or just have one and basically use forever? Also hyped beyond belief!
Not in Ch1, so I can't say, and haven't seen em, but I'd assume so.
@@CoffeePotato couldn't remember from base game also because never used them. Hope they are just buy once, and I appreciate you being careful to not break anything with Square, and congratulations on this with them it's very deserved
@@jima.3478 I'm really hoping so, I'll cover it when there's more to share.
Are you playing on the Switch? I am torn between PC (steam deck) and Switch. I think Switch OLED looks far better but the Deck feels better in my hands. If it's able to be played Steam Deck, I might double dip just to support this one. (edit: he shows at 19:00, it's on the Switch)
Yup, I'm on Switch because it's better for my situation, but both versions seem to play the same, offer the same controls, etc. PC will likely have mods, and I know I plan to get the PC version as well. Feels great on the Wide Gameboy, though.
Another question (yes I come back often the video) I have is regarding the leveling system and learning skills : If my Valkyrie reaches lvl 10 as Valkyrie she will learn some skills, but then I put her as Knight, how long does it take for her to learn some Knight skills ?
love the artstyle.
Akihiko Yoshida is the artist.
It's been awesome for a decade, and remains awesome now!
It’s actually Tsubasa Masao, but this is a common misconception given the style
@@CBranchArts do they both have a very similar art style ?
Some questions I had after watching-
Scouting mechanic- how much is hidden? seemed like just able to look at the whole field and see every enemy level/skills/spells.
Cross classing- any more or less value for skill swaps in ch1? Are you getting enough xp candy to experiment?
Debuffs- Dark weight doesn't apply leaden anymore? Or is it just only a smaller chance now? Any other noticeable changes to finishers?
You seem to see everything but names when Scouting.
Skill swaps are unclear so far, Chapter 1 and all that, but I believe they've opened up the skills to just all be available, while allowing more per class. Like I saw Siege on the BM, I think. TBD, though.
I think the debuffs will come some other way, because I haven't seen any from the first finishers yet. Crossbows did swap out for Dullbind, though.
This is great an and all, and I commend you on your efforts getting this out and hyping it up, but where's the March of the Black Queen reborn/port/remaster? It's been stuck on PSX as well with load times between each battle...
Still looking forward to picking this up on Steam when comes out though.
I mean... given the blatant Ogre Battle cover art on the Reborn screen, I'm sure we're not the only ones thinking about it. Also, a fellow PS1 Limited Edition fan, always great to see! Fun note, load times or no, they're still faster than the SNES text boxes. I hope they at the very least out these on the Online service, even if the ideal would be a port.
Thanks for the preview! Is the only way to get Lizardmen and Hawkmen in Ch.1 through recruiting them during the Ganpp battle?
So far as I've found, yes. In Chapter 1.
Great preview! Which version are you planning to buy? Are you going to do an unboxing?
So today we do the live unboxing....*turns on Switch*...wow, it has the game! 🤣
But no, as much as I wish I could collect things, I have 3 kiddos, I'm going Switch and PC digital personally. One time of seeing my son reach into my case, yelling "it's my potato chip now, dad!" And running off with BOTW was enough to get that message across 😂
@@CoffeePotato That's ok. Thank you for answering!
@@Dracobyte Any time
Howdy Coffee? Glad to see your channel growing. I recently picked up the reborn remake and have very mixed feelings about it. So far I love the voice acting and additional dialogue flavours. But level cap, inventory and skill limit feels like a big step down. Downgraded mechanics limits the replay value, especially now everthing is tied to mana. They could have kept the original mechanics with skills lvling up faster and adding charms on top making the game perfect. So, here is my question for you: If you had to pick only one of the two, which would you pick? Remake or Reborn?
Reborn, personally. Mechanically, I love the level caps, because it allows for exploring the deeper systems in these games without even having an overpowering option. One of my biggest gripes with PSP was the ability to outright break the game whenever you wanted. You say downgraded mechanics, but it's the same mechanics in a new light. I have a run that's going up over the weekend that I hope will answer some of these opinions, showing how even without the new cards, without uniques, without incapacitations or rewinding, you can strategize your way around anything in this system. This remake is incredibly hard to describe without getting your hands on the mechancs, but it's a thorough rework from top to bottom, keeping the best of the strategic elements, while cutting out the repetitive grind time. There's grind if you want it, but it's just so damn elegantly implemented.
@@CoffeePotato Yeah, I am liking Reborn more!
If you get a skill (let's say meditate) and you switch from the class that learns it to another class does that skill level up or do you need to switch to the class that learned it to get it to rank up? And if you have a high level character does switching classes instantly unlock all the class associated skills?
Also something cool I just saw in another video is that if you crit or just knockback someone into being in front of a teammate then pincer still activates, I wonder if you can pinball people back and forth with pincers if you give all of your guys knockback IV.
Knockback is just built into attacks, I don't know what affects the odds besides crits yet.
I'm still testing, but I believe all cross class skills unlock automatically when you get access to the new class. When I got Siege, it seemed like everyone who could use it got it.
FYI The Reviews of Tactics Ogre Reborn are already available! Most of them are very positive.
My questions:
1. Does elemental Bombs scales?
2. How is Throw in this version?
3. How do they learn spells and are the type of spells tied to classes? elemental affinity? levels?
4. How much does an Elemental affinity influences the unit or damage, including the prevailing element in version, and terrain?
Last but not least.
5. While I don't mind the voice acting to some degree. What about the classic dying grunt? are their still in the game? option menu?
1- Not Chapter 1
2- Not Chapter 1
3- Spells are equip slots like Classic, similar spell loadouts to PSP. Weapons and Augs are combined now. This is weird at first, but a really elegant way to allow for pivots later.
4- Testing for Monday's video, no conclusive answer yet.
5- I don't see that option, and doubt it's there. The new ones are pretty neat. There's similar to old ones, some over the top ones, it overall makes me think of Battle Brothers for the death cries. Just enough "well that happened" to make those super dramatic gargly ones stick out.
@@CoffeePotato Sounds good. I cannot wait to get my hands on Reborn and dissect it as well.
I'm assuming you're playing reborn and I hope you're having a blast. I have a question tho. Not about reborn, although I wonder if it'd work the same. Anyways the question is: Do you know of any ways to deal more than just 1 or 2 DMG to bushes and trees on maps? I'm assuming it has something to do with penetration as you explained in the armor video but I was wondering if you had any techniques for dealing 50DMG to bushes/trees.
Yes, it's strictly a stats check, You must....overpower the tree. Also certain weapons seem to do more. So, Spears and Hammers tend to do more, or cursed weapons just delete them outright. I recall shots being weirdly good against them. In Reborn they're far weaker, and intended to be broken, if that helps.
コレは名作の予感！！🎉
初代作品のリメイクでここまで原作のクォリティのまま作り直せるのはすごい。
やはり原作が、そもそも高クォリティなゲームシステムだったんだなと改めて実感😢❤
早く遊びたい🔥🔥🔥
I don't know how to respond in the same language, but I absolutely agree! This game is incredible, and it's amazing to see it so lovingly remade!
Commenting just to boost the algorithm on this video.
There was a farmer had a dog....
Me too!
Can you turn off the smoothing filter? (Really hope you can)
Can you fight random battles or pre determined battles on world map or just training and story battles?
How’s magic now with the elimination of TP? Can you just spam high powered abilities early in the battle?
Does limit of 4 abilities/skill feel constricting or limiting?
Have you noticed any issues with the AI rebalancing or other balance issues?
I know they got rid of rogue (which sucks) did they give the rouges abilities to any other classes?
Health gate or pools seem to be insanely high now where it takes forever to kill stuff, hopefully this is changeable or toned down for final release
A- No so far as I can tell, but it's barely noticeable after a little bit.
B- Matsuno confirmed that you can go back to different versions of field maps at some point later, but for Chapter 1 it's training in towns.
C- So far Magic is the consistent and reliable one. You can last a couple rounds of spam on contact by default, Meditate and Insight seem to allow for casting as much early game stuff as you like, but finishers take a couple rounds of charge to use. Melee is high damage, but can be parried, while archers get range and lower damage, but with a sort of creeping effect, where they seem to walk their damage forward well over time. I'll explain more on that later.
4- The AI does a good job working in small teams, and seems to use skills where appropriate. There also seem to be different behaviors depending on the team, like the more official armies seem to team up more, while some others will be more chaotic. Many also seem to be type themed.
5- Health and damage both went up by about 4x. It all plays faster by a wide margin, largely because between Pincers and Counters, units hit each other way more often so far.
@@CoffeePotato oof I wonder if magic will be too Op now with only MP and no TP.
Not being able to grind on maps sounds kinda annoying and there will be less battling all around, personally training battles sound terrible especially if you aren’t able to die
I’m still salty the rogue is gone since I always made the MC a rogue and left him as one due to the movement the class gets and some of its skills (I’m hoping they’re all on other classes now)
Jealousy is real lol
Here I am with my mate doing weekly podcasts talking differences between versions and what to expect, and you land a detailed preview😂😂😂
Can't see through tears. But I did see a lizardman in your squad.
Had to turn away to not spoil myself much. Got this kid like excitement and anticipation of getting my sweaty hands on the new game and go in blind. Relatively blind, of course.
Oh, it's been a blast so far! I'd like to hear this podcast, more TO is always welcome! If not watching the thing, I'd say one thing to bear in mind is that the new automation mechanics do have more to them than meets the eye. I only mention this because of a sudden slew of hot takes regarding that mechanic from folks that haven't tried it yet, so I'm mentally in this mode of correcting for misunderstandings already, as expected 🤣
@@CoffeePotato We're from Japan, so the podcast is in Japanese, unfortunately.
So far it's mainly me explaining just how different original was from psp remake since my mate only played the psp version that I lent him back in the day. You know, since personal elements came back gotta know how things were in the original. Also me bitching about base stats system and how it immediately creates this huge gap between new and older units lol
I read an article on the new auto and what not skills. So far it seems they just cleaned up the psp system and made it slimmer, more intuitive even. Passives go into auto. Seems simple enough. Also some skills been changed around. How will that feel? I can only guess, but don't really see anything to worry about.
I got a question which I hope you will be able to answer!
So apparently there won't be any random encounters on the world map, correct? They have been replaced with the Train option instead, correct?
Does that mean that when we go use the Train option we will encounter different units on different maps?
For example we will encounter Lizardmen on Tynemouth Hill so we can recruit them there? That has been bugging me because I really hope they will make monster units viable and we can recruit them early like we could Coax the Lizardmen in the PSP version of the game.
So we have seen in screenshots that the woods will be a thing, but for Chapter 1 you can get a couple lizards and hawks. They feel like their SNES/PS1 variants, with the lizards being pretty strong next to their nonscaly comrades. I like the switch to being harder to recruit, but more special, it feels good.
@@CoffeePotato Me likey~
@@CoffeePotato I love having a unique team that's not full of humans (and hawk-men). Lizardmen, Orcs, familiars etc.
@@Scole2289 We already know from the previous screenshots that earlier access to recruits should be a thing.
I saw that you had Evan the Lizard. How's recruit look? And how quickly can you build a demihuman army? And do faeries/gremlins have a new class to make up for the loss of rogue? And how do dragons look?
I want to ask if can change the names of monster recruits.
I want my Lizardman Berserker named Tolok. And my red Dragon Fafnir. And my Skeleton Terror Knight named Letherion.
It was a real pain in the ass to do it in the old games. I haven't heard anything about name changing enemy units after recruiting. Hopefully it is a feature.
Recruit feels like KoL "everyone's a chatterbox" with Classic odds. You can be rocking a team of birds and lizards by the end of 1, I can't say beyond that. Dragons feel like a middle ground between KoL and OV. High health, consistent damage, decent armor, but lower than TO PSP. So you can chip them, at least in 1. Pincer Gryphs remain terrifying.
@@GamerGarm Yeah, I know what you mean about the Ogre Blade name changes in the PSP game. Considering CoffeePot had a lizard named Evan, I think the renaming thing must work for recruited monsters, too =]
@@CoffeePotato For pincer attack, how's it work? It's a passive that the attacker or supporter needs?
And there's no requirements anymore on recruit? So you can grab an orc, gremlin, or golem soon as you see one?
Apologies if you've already answered this but how is the new AI in terms of non-playable allied units? If I remember correctly, there's a mission in chapter 1 where you have to keep Cistina alive, is she as reckless as before or has the new AI made that mission less of a pain?
Oh, I've tested that multiple times, she's good at staying alive and keeping herself mostly safe as long as you at least try to get close.
@@CoffeePotato Very nice! Hopefully that means some of the later escort missions like Azelstan's are also less of a headache.
@@ctw737 I would assume so. Plus since they're not DLC this time, we'll presumably see adaptive balance.
Hi Coffee, is there a way to do Japanese Voice with English subtitles? The English VA seems... forced(?). Idk. I'll wait to make judgements until I get hands on the game myself but was just wondering if that's an option. Thanks.
There is, I think. Honestly after running the first chapter for the 8th time, they've kind of grown on me.