ACC: A racing driver's take on Assetto Corsa Competizione v1.1
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Summary: It's pretty good.
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When you can select yourself in the menus of a racing game 😂😂 subbed
lando norris likes to do this as well when he played F1. he streams on twitch and he's a total meme lord XD
@@oldfrend I don't think a meme lord fits into f1 tho..
@Josh Sullivan I don't think so
I wonder if maldonado's computer crashes instantly if he selects himself in an F1 game.
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I think I’m more pumped to see David playing ACC as himself than he is 🤣
lol real shit
So true 😂
Yeah man I thought that was pretty dam cool aswell.
You seem very bias towards a certain car and driver🤔🤔 I wonder why?
He looks and sounds familiar to me 😂
They even have the same name! What a coincidence!
David Perel: I'm me.
Also David Perel: in my spare time, I pretend to be me.
yes!!! finally a youtuber endorsing and supporting this amazing game. imo, the only thing this game needs is a bigger player base.
Agreed:))
That is very interesting, some of the players buy the ACC after David’s recommendation, and I start to concentrate on GT3 because of the launch of the ACC, and then I start to follow David here😂, so all in all.....ACC, Blancpain GT, David ....you guys made me a truly GT3 fan😄
similar here, never heard of the series before Kunos announced this game and now I watch the races on YT, follow David and I even visited Spa for this years 24hour (meeting Aris and Chris Harris)
There were way more people online than yesterday, and at the new Zandvoort track of course, I'm thinking this vid had quite the impact.
Should have worn a full suit for
ExTrA EmMiRsIoN
Lol
Totally right. I missed a trick!
@@DavidPerel. I really hope thet add GT4 and LMP2 cars with multi class racing in the future. They game is really good and has soo much potential
Katanamast Sim Racing
I think ACC is for Blancpain, the normal AC might add those.
@@N4SCARfaN blancpain has gt4s in their sprint cup of America and Asia
@@katanamast279 there is multi class if you cnsider that there are already 2 cup cars in the game (Hurracan ST, 911 Cup)
It's interesting to hear a real drivers perspectives on this. I find it interesting how some racing games overcompensate for a few things, namely how the brakes don't take ages to warm up etc.
Love these videos David. Thankful for taking the time to produce them, it's something us simmers will never have the pleasure of (racing a real car)
I appreciate your comment Tom, thanks so much
It's interesting to hear your thoughts on ACC, thanks for sharing. :)
Thanks for watching DPH
Imagine people giving a racing driver a rough time because of his FOV lmao.
It’s hilarious
Seanxprt imagine trying to help and getting a comment like this from you dicks, lol
A two time Spa 24hr winner not to mention...
M3Supercharged thats what i mean, he's a beast of a driver, dont know why the need be salty on someone trying to help. Been a sub for a long time. Im not doubting his ability ffs.
@@VjRj84 By no means was I being salty, nor did I think SeanXprt doubted his ability, but rather was just adding to his comment for those who argue about his FOV and do seem to doubt his knowledge. Chill out bro, take a xanex and relax.
In the credits: David Perel as himself
Davis Perel as a badass mofo himself. 😂
FINALLY, here we go god damn it.
How do you "only" have 26k subs? You are probably the one of the few that can actually say whats real and not when comparing GT cars, for one you drive them and two, you drive them at their limit.
Thanks for the content, keep it coming!
Takes time to build a channel mate :)
It would be great to see what you thought of rFactor 2 in one of these comparisons, as I've never heard you mention it. I uninstalled all my other sims after trying it with the GT3 packs (including AC and ACC). Everything else felt under-modeled after experiencing its insane tyre model and FFB, though I'm curious whether that's just my layperson impression, or whether it treads water with an actual GT3 driver.
Even if the GT3 driver now tells you that he thinks ACC is better or more real, it's nothing more than a subjective impression, because everyone evaluates the optical impressions and the FFB differently, especially since the whole thing also depends on the hardware. Anthony Davidson, a former Formula 1 driver, also wanted to market the Formula 1 series from Codemasters as realistic. For example, I find that on a monitor with a non-real FOV, the behavior is difficult to evaluate. The best way to do this is in VR. It would be interesting, if you let at least 10 drivers compare the simulations.
Awesome to hear your take on the titles, most definitive opinion imo on “how it should be”. There are so many conflicting views on the Internet when it comes to this. Greatly informative video and a solid reference, keep em coming!
And your getting it from a real life race car driver which (for this game) can make it more realistic and a closer to real life experience
would be fun to see a Sim race whit all cars driven by their real life driver
Kunos and we all have to thank you, then, for the braking sounds, that made me immediately love ACC after watching your videos. :p
Did you try rFactor 2? It's GT3 cars are awesome and the AI is one of the best in sim racing. Would love to get your opinion about it. For me rF2 feels the best, but who am I to judge, I've never driven a GT3 car in my life.
This is hands down my favorite sim at the moment. I'm kind of a track rat, and the first time I played this I thought "this feels real". I have 1000 hours into ACC now and can't wait for the update
1000 already, wow
sklew ditto i thought this is probably the closest to real that I can imagine. Although I’ve never tracked my Bimmer.
It's cool and all but really? 1000hrs already? Someone needs to step outside once in a while!
@@2ndLastJedi nah, lol
I too enjoy playing with myself! 😉😉
Re: FOV complaints. Don't worry about it, I get the same thing regarding FOV and POV with the locomotives I create for train sim. People whine about the 'head placement' that I set because I set them for where i sit in the real thing, just as you've done here. :)
This is really interesting that you got to help them with some parts of the game. The devil is in the details and even something like that grinding sound you've described can add so much to the experience. I hope this eventually comes to consoles as well.
O M G, he's finally doing it!!!
Gravy??
GRAVY
@@DavidPerel lmao 😂😂
Driving your own car in a game is something I rarely see, and it's so cool! This update definitely made ACC a whole lot better! Also love the Aston Martin Vantage GT3 and McLaren 720S GT3!
Sincerely thank you for you comments at 12:40!
Hopefully this will prevent the FOV police from donning their sirens and handing out unwanted citations.
I've been waiting to see you race as yourself for a long time...YES!!! Hope to come across you on track in the near future
Thanks Phomolo, see you in T1!
Likewise been waiting and even had this done a while back ua-cam.com/video/1FNmIWL2rfA/v-deo.html
David - You mention the very narrow window of tyre slip and the difficulty in catching slides in ACC, as compared to real life. This may sound like a strange question, but how does TC setting affect the inputs you need to catch oversteer? I found I was much better able to anticipate/sense and catch oversteer with the TC at 2 than at 6, in your car. Is this just me messing up, or does the intervention of TC change what you need to do with your hands (i.e. you can't both be correcting the same slide simultaneously?). I always presumed TC just meant you weren't going to slide as readily, and the computer would sort things out when you did- i.e. easier in all ways. Anyways, awesome videos, and anyone that can keep a sense of humility while racing Ferraris professionally is doing something right. Cheers.
Anyone giving you shit for FOV doesn't know how to use their eyes on the track properly. ua-cam.com/video/wPrVM4sPY3k/v-deo.html
Mathematically-correct FOV is brilliant until you get to too tight a corner.
Coach Dave... your FOV, man...
is absolutely fine :D
if i may:
i'd suggest using "crew chief" ( thecrewchief.org ) as a spotter, as the default spotter in ACC still needs some work IMO.
regarding force-feedback:
(i'm kinda sure some dev already told you this, but just in case)
ingame-settings:
Gain to 85% +-10 (to avoid excessive clipping)
Minumum force to 0%
Dynamic damping to 100% (unless you have a dd wheel)
Road effects only enhances the effects which are already existing in the simulation, so 0% should be the most realistic.
However: just set road-effects to whatever you're comfortable with.
Good choice on your FOV :)
IMO the entire "perfect" fov discussion is usually total BS and the only thing that's important, is that one uses an FOV with which one is a) comfortable with and b) an FOV which is consistent, so you don't use 45° in one game and 90° in the next.
Thank you for the review! Looking forward to maybe some iRacing/ACC streams mixed into your regular streaming content, please ? :D
A perfect FOV actually does exist as you have real life cars for comparison. For instance, David is currently looking at a steering wheel (which is probably a foot from his face), past the steering wheel to his monitor (probably an extra 2 or 3 feet depending) and then he has to double all of that because of the view in game. The sense of speed and distance judging is completely off by using a "drivers eye" camera instead of a dash cam. The perfect FOV though is different for everyone as people are different heights so their distance from the in game dash would be different. Howevery, you are basically sitting in the driver seat of the car, so it only makes sense that you wouldn't need to see the wheel or anything in game
0:20 is there a story behind the little wizard being on the driver side door?
Yes there is, it’s a nickname I picked up from Spa 2018. Now everyone in our car is called a wizard. So Rinat (car owner) got some stickers made and we put them on the car.
@@DavidPerel You're a Wizard David
Just has to do it
So let me see if I have this correct. You actually drive said cars in real life, but armchair racers wanna tell you what FOV to use. Weird lol.
Hello Dave,
Very nice vid! But please don t forget about GT Sport! ;)
I’ll never leave Gran Turismo 🙌
I just bought it. Now I have to find good settings for my t150 lol.
I think you mentioned it as well, but theres such a fine line between having good grip and scrubbing the tires in ACC. Maybe it's the Pirelli tires, or maybe it's even accurate idk, but I find it nearly impossible to catch a slide in ACC. And with the not great FFB its hard to even feel a small slide before it's too late. That's my biggest criticism of ACC.
Totally agree. Takes a lot of the fun put of racing for me. I hope they give more road feel in future updates and optimise a bit more as it's also very demanding on my gaming rig for what it is
hearing some of things you've said about ACC, its so relieving. Amazing vid again mate!🙂 i think if the real drivers feel like there almost in the same car then its near perfect!(regarding it being a sim) but i think most people will agree on the FFB being slightly vague on when you do start to slip. The REAL question everyone is wondering, will you ever do a league/community race with us plebs on ACC? 😅
So you mentioned a few different sims (Grand Turismo, iRacing, etc.), but what is your opinion on Project Cars 2 and its simulation of GT3 cars?
Not a fan of PC2 mate
@@DavidPerel If I may ask, why is that?
@@michaelfolsom240 I think they tried to do too much and got too much wrong. Feels like a sim with physics that are 10% out of calibration.
@@DavidPerel Ah, fair enough then. Thanks for the replies.
The video should have ended right after you selected yourself and team car. Absolute surreal!
Love the way your're debunking all those "THE correct way to play the game" myths by just waving them off at the end. :) What matters is what you're feeling comfortable with, which I feel being an underrated aspect of, well, everything regarding customization.
Wow very cool Dave, i love typing my own name in as driver in games, must be epic to have yours already built in :D i have purchased this game now.. it is amazing for GT cars like you say and will only get better IMO! cya on track hopefully!
i always choose you when i pick the 'rrari
Awesome! You’re making the right choice 😂
People use to use a smashed fly on windscreen FOV that make you feel like be driving at 20 km/h
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Great video🤙. Would love to know your FFB settings for both AC and ACC as I use a thrustmaster as well but struggle with FFB in AC compared to other sims. Again great video and insight. New sub.
The best SIM is Rfactor 2. Simple.
For you haha maybe not for all of us ^^
I’ve seen a lot of rFactor 2 fans in my comments. I used to be obsessed with V1 but haven’t tried V2 yet.
I think a lot of the force feedback comes from the magic dynamic damping. can you ask them what that setting actual does.
Great video! And David seems like a great guy. Love to see real racing drivers influence the development of sims. For me, ACC is the greatest sim there is by a long distance. Limited in content, yes - but there are a decent number of tracks and a lot of awesome cars. Just because they're all GT3 cars doesn't mean they are all the same - far from it, There's a LOT here to keep you going for a long, long time.
Could not agree more. I like quality over quantity, ACC has quality, and it's only getting better.
Two of the exact criticisms I have brought up...difficulty in slide recovery due to small envelope at break-away and lack of initial cold braking. Good to get that confirmation.
Never could quite understand why even some mod cars for the original AC had zero braking on leaving the pits....for upward of two laps. Every car I have ever driven in anger, will practically try to pitch you out the windshield after a few corners. Thanks for stating that.
I was hesitant to purchase ACC... then I saw this and just now purchased it on Steam. Great work David
The sense of speed is indeed probably the only problematic thing for the game (IMO). It makes it very difficult to get a feel for a new track cause you have no idea about the braking point nor the sense of speed, so it becomes extremely easy to brake too early or too late.
That said, the new update did some weird stuff to aero and cars performance that I have a hard time getting adjusted to. For example the cars reach lower speeds when it's colder, even though there's more grip on the track. Lap times also usually when they were easily much better at cold, now they seem to be worse when it's cold. This is from testing on Monza though, not sure how it affects other tracks, but really screws up with all I knew and gives me mixed feelings about the update itself. I do wonder if that's intended or not because it's very weird.
Incredible AI? I love ACC but rFactor2’s AI is all over it.
but n1 plays rf2
ACC should partner with SRS (direct integration or even funding) and compete with iRacing.
Also encouraging the huge modding community from AC to move to ACC would be great, maybe helping modders port their mods.
I’m sorry but It must be so good picking your self on a game
It’s quite surreal!
Okay ngl, the sounds of the ABS clunking and TC going off are SO immersive to me. It felt like such an obvious thing to be there, but it never has been in any game I can think of. When I really noticed it the first time I biffed a corner, it blew me away. This game has come so far already and is a must have if you have any kind of wheel.
FOV.......
Fantastic overview video 😂😂
💃🏼 this man knows what he’s talking about 😂
David do you change setups for every strack on ACC and do you drive with TC on or off?
TC on because GT3’s are optimized to work with it switched on.
I just like the way ac and acc feels more then any other aim game the perfect amount of weight in the ffb the grip of the car things people dont talk about much they just talk abiut road feel and things like that to me I want that weight and grip so I can feel full control of the car and ac and acc both do that you can even see on here with the way the car moves loved your video and nice to know your experience also ans the ffb in acc to me isnt light at all mabye its the way the thrustmaster works through it I use a csw v2.5 to me its weighty and you feel everything especially after the last update my base had I use the same fov as you by the way I dont get why anybody would say anything about it
Thank you for your feedback to help this game/ sim. I just have to say this game is epic to me. I love GT3 cars and GTE cars.
Stoked you enjoy it mate!
@@DavidPerel ua-cam.com/video/vam746ZL5ow/v-deo.html
What do you think about SA rating ? I personnaly HATE it.
They should remove it for lights bumps that don't affect the opponnents driving IMO.
Regarding the audio clipping, I actually get this in ACC (1.0 anyway), do you know if in this case that is from ACC or something with the video production?
i do appreciate hearing from people like yourself who actually experience the real world versions rather than armchair drivers who think they know, i look forward to more comments and views :)
ACC is a great rival to GT. Gran Turismo could add more sounds and feedback from the car in the future. The screeching pads and the qualifying system needs an improvement.
I use a tx wheel, and the Ffb is soooo light, I like some weight and seems there is nothing I can do to make it better. So to me ACC is simply a novelty game. iRacing is my choice of Sim. If they fix the FFB I would be on it all the time. Your video is the best, I agree with everything you commented on. Thanks
My fanatac that I'm using is plenty strong and it's not even a DD. I feel like I'm getting a workout playing ACC. Good callout on what a tx wheel feels like in ACC.
Uhm, sims like rFactor 2 and Grand Prix 4 have better AI. ACC's AI suffers from lack of personality/variability between each driver, very rare 3-wides on wide straights and lack of certain attack/defend behaviours. AI also needs more minor mistakes to do from time to time.
I want to love the AC games, but I feel like they are at their best only when you do short races, starting last and trying to finish first on a reasonable difficulty, because the AI flaws from longer races turn me off almost everytime. On the other hand, rFactor 2, Grand Prix 4, maybe even Automobilista/GTR 2 etc. have an AI that is decently developed for full-length races, even if they are still not flawless.
David, please give rFactor2 a try and judge its physics and FFB ..
Exactly! lol I really want to hear his opinion of their GT3's because for me. RF2 blows ACC out of the water. ACC isn't bad, quite good in some areas, but NOTHING COMES CLOSE TO RF2... You can literally feel the grip of all 4 of your tires on the road if set up right.
Yes i would love to see that 👍
RF2 graphics are on the limit to destroy the immersion. I was driving the Radical GT3 yesterday and God, that's an ugly interior modelling and the scene light is so pale and dead. As the uploader said in the video, graphics are important to immersion too
Jorge Some tracks and stuff look horrendous I agree. However, immersion is so much more than graphics. No other racing game gives you as much info in your feet and hands as RF2. The inputs are immersive and much more realistic to how cars naturally respond. There is just nothing better than when the track rubbers in RF2 and your tires have just heated enough to stick. You can literally feel that. Only other game I came close to feel that was in the original Assetto Corsa. ACC is not that at all. It’s floaty. Like you can feel the faux FFB instead of information about your tires on the track. Did you get the newest tracks like Le Mans and Nurburgring? Because they look stellar on my setup. The interiors of the newer GT3 endurance pack and the Mclaren Senna GTR are incredible.
I will say this though, I agree with you that immersion is more than FFB. ACC sound is perfect. Never heard anything so good. It just sucks that it’s FFB doesn’t match the prestige of its GFX and sound design. I turn on ACC every once and a while and I try to enjoy it but I just can’t anymore. RF2 has ruined 3 games for me this year. I haven’t touched F1 2019, ACC or Raceroom eve since I bought the GT3 classes and official tracks on RF2. The quality is just unmatched.
I am also very interested in David's opinion about rF2. For me, even though rF2 FFB is maybe a little bit more communicative, AC or ACC FFB feels more natural and enjoyable. I have to admit I have almost no experience with an RL race car. The biggest problem I have with rF2 physics is a fact that it is too forgiving and does not require as precise inputs as in AC and especially in ACC. But it is only my opinion and of course totally subjective.
AC has good AI? You have not been punted by them then xD
I kind of like their aggression though 😂
Really wish the VR was easier to run in ACC. I know now many people are into driving sims in VR... but think that a well optimized game can benefit many people on different PCs. Guess I’ll just have to stick to PC2 and AC till my PC can manage more than 50 FPS. But this can definitely be an amazing sim with a bit more time
> That was from yours truly, showing the onboard videos
lol I actually did notice, just how rich the brakepads griding sounds... i ll try to note the ABS feedback sound next time
Can someone please help if you know, what level is he using, his SA starts at 47 and ends up around 56, thats 9 points in 1 race. Should I go from rookie to expert? should I raise the AI Aggression??
Flexing that beautiful Ferrari headset from work? Also glad to see this video!
abysss91 I think that’s the thrustmaster Ferrari headset they may have sent him lol
@@marcoVGpolo oh, I had no idea they made such a headset. Still looking great tho!
I use a small midge OSW setup, and I feel like the force feedback in this game to be very pronounced and impactful. Granted, I understand the difference between our wheels and I'm not a race car driver, just a gamer. But when I'm coming up to the first chicane at Zolder, I'm worried my rig is gonna fall apart if I mess up and hit the curb. Where I live, a T-GT is only a few hundred dollars less, so the fact that a belt driven wheel misses out as much as your critique leads me to believe, then that's a bummer and I hope it gets sorted quickly.
iRacing: NASCAR and oval/dirt
ACC: GT3 and GT4
GT Sport: Penalty system
thank you so much dude, your real life perspective is SO important to us sim enthusiasts.
Can you share us what ffb settings are closest in overall behavior to the real car? Could you also tell what strenghts are in real car (like is it like in casual road car or its milion Nm wanting to break arms) and how do you feel details on road surface? You feel every smallest bump and detail or is it surpressed by the suspension?
What Level are you racing at? Expert?? I notice your SA went from 47 to 53 real quick.
This is fantastic. Been playing acc for a while now. Heard Thiims thoughts a few months ago. The game has come a long way since I bought it in beta mode. Overall, I like this game the best, but I also like GT3 racing the best as well. It's always nice to know you play a game that has guys like you helping to make it better. Thanks for this post David. Very cool!
If i remember correctly nicki thiim didn't like it? Would like if he gave it another shot, after 1.0.7, where the tyre model has been updated.
I just bought it, I used enthusia on PS2 before I drove a legends car at Charlotte. Enthusia and need for speed shift 2 comparable to me , challenging I will do a lot of laps before go online.
Hey Dave, thanks for all your videos... Have you heard anything about bringing this game to consoles ?
Cheers.
2nd
No idea regarding the console but I doubt they’ll make it for PS4 as they have to focus on the PC first
Do you right foot break?
I’m a Left footer
That's the vertical FOV I'd go for so not really sure what there is to complain about. I'd run it on an ultrawide though to get a bit more horizontal view.
Any plans to upgrade your wheel since you play PC titles now? Seems like the TGT would only be a good option for GT Sport.
hahaha I am using the same / similar FOV as well
Legend!
my interest recently increased in racing sims and i started playing them alot , and honestly to see a pro driver playing himself in one of them is so sick hehe Subbed !
Very nice David! your content got me really hooked on the GT3 series. i'm buying a wheel and ACC/Iracing soon because of you :)
That is beyond EPIIIIIC
Do you find the ffb is more realistic in your real car?
Totally serious question, the steering inputs in ACC seem smoother and more subdued than real
Hey David, not sure if this is obvious or not but is this on your PS4 or computer? I know in your rig set up video you said the PC was coming
@David Perel Have you tried the GT3s in rFactor2? rF2 is my go-to simulator and every time I try ACC, it feels much easier to drive than rF2 models of the GT3 cars. I'm curious which interpretation of the GT3 would be more accurate between rF2 and ACC.
I haven’t tried rF2 mate. Maybe one day but finding the time for all of these sims is incredibly difficult.
David, any chance of you getting a VR setup?
thank u boss, i love ur channel even though i only go Assetto Corsa. its amazin hearin from u even in GT Sport
Definitely going to buy the game now with your feedback
When are we getting a Jimmy Broadbent-style shout and drive live commentary? Love your stuff David, keep it up
When I figure out how to fix my Elgato streaming device 😂
That cascade shadow at 10:14 on the grandstand is horrible and can be fixed with a ini file tweak. I'm afk atm but can post solution later if wanted.
Love this game Dave, it's awsome. Looking forward to seeing more content 👍
RF2 its the king of Sim-Racing
So I’ve heard. I need to check it out.
What a great video! Ive just started with ACC. Thanks for sharing this 👍
7 new cars and you pick an old one... 🤷♂️
No, I pick MY one 😉
@@DavidPerel true but even so. I thought it was a review on V1.1. meaning I thought you would have tested a new car that's recently been added or aren't you allowed for conflict of interest? 🤭🤫
i really wish this ran well in vr... i want to like this sim but it's hard to with such bad performance
This game has me hooked on GT3 racing. How did I not discover this until now
I have been waiting for this video since the announcement of ACC development pre alfa and am not disappointed. Thank you Coach Dav. I hope ACC continues developing the game and hopefully make the kerbs feel better
I think if there's a car in game with your name on it, you don't have to prove you're a real pro >
Great video review. Do you ever race in VR ? Would be great to hear your thoughts.
VR is great 👍