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Learn About Rotation in Freestyle!
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
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Thank you for your clever videos and break down that helps with understanding and practice very much! ❤️👍
thank you so much Mandy for your explanation of Rotation in freestyle and I do appreciate and hopefully I can improve my swim skill
Hi coach Mandy went swimming again second time feel better this time took notes of your swim trips really helpful still need to work on breathing so I got to the end pool work on ducking my head too side too side and learn kick right at pool wall .
i love everyone of your videos, i get something out of everyone, keep doing what your doing miss
Very helpful. Thank you for this.
Thank you for sharing all those great videos!
Martin Jordan you’re welcome! 😄🏊🏼♂️🙏🏽 -Coach Mandy
It seems like keeping my hips at the surface is an important indicator of whether or not I'm rotating enough. I'll try this today in training. As always, great tip, Coach Mandy! :)
David Gerich true and typically for men due to having a naturally lower profile in the water. 👍🏼🏊🏼♂️ You’re welcome! -CM
Thanks for you tech.
Love your channel; fever of swimming has overtaken me , so breathing is my now and I love just been in cold water by 6am
Thank you for your feedback and welcome to the SWIMVICE channel! That’s great you are able swim early mornings. They are the best! 🙌🏼 I have something exciting launching this year that will benefit your journey significantly. If you haven’t already done so, be sure to join my mailing list at www.SWIMVICE.com as they will be the first to know! Enjoy your practice and I look forward to staying connected with you. -Coach Mandy 🏊🏼♂️🙌🏼💪🏼✅
nice video, thank you very much
Thanks for your sharing
Always helpful. Thanks.
Farid Betchikh 🙏🏽
thanks Coach Mandy for the videos
You’re welcome. 🙏🏽 Thank you, I appreciate your support ✊🏼🔥🏊🏼♂️
Great, as always.
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Thanks Coach Mandy. I feel I get my rotation right when I feel I'm using my lats to effect a good pull. not that Im consistent all th time yet. I need more coaching please
Stephen Yes that’s great when you are feeling the engagement from your lats. This means you are actually forming a great catch versus the arm falling in the catch phase. Stay tuned as I will be providing drills and progressions in the future. For now just quick tips to get your training in the right direction. 🙌🏽😄 Keep it up and I’m sure this feeling will become more consistent over time. 👍🏼 -CM
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Great video Coach Mandy!! This helped me tons with my 2 stroke breathing & 2 beat kick. After reviewing the vid/info, I realized that it was the lack of rotation that was throwing off the timing for everything (stroke/breathing/kick). Applied this on Monday, and after making the tweaks, I was able to hit my first 600m swim (with paddles n buoy) 🤙🏽🥳! Longest prior to that was 240m. Talk about a game changer 💪🏽. Thanks again for the vids.
Wow, nice work! 💪🔥 Thank you for sharing your progress and love that you found what clicked. Yes, the lack of rotation is a big culprit. Glad the video helped. Keep going! 👏🏊♂️
Great video.
I can't say much in the way of knowledge because I just started around a month ago and have my own personal training coach. But I found my rotation got better when I started fo relax in the water. As a beginner I was tensed up. He is also working on my form, trying to keep my elbows up slowed down my stroke rate. And today I felt I was gliding in the water better than I had been
Nice work James Hall fishing! That’s great news and yes the more relaxed you are the better your technique will be. Tension is apart of the process as you learn. Thank you for sharing your experience and keep me posted throughout your training. 🏊🏼♂️🔥 -Coach Mandy
Thank you Mr.Hall.Even i noticed that when you aren't tensed in the water or can relax the rotation and breathing seem to happen naturally and effortlessly.Can you tell me how many kicks and strokes you use when you swim relaxedly?I keep it to 4 kicks and 2 strokes.
Thanks it was really helpful
Nazanin Mirzayii you’re welcome. I’m happy this video is useful for your training 🙌🏽👍🏼🏊🏼♂️ -Coach M
Thanks for the video. I'm starting to correct my freestyle with a higher elbow entry and exit towards the hips-- it feels good. Also, with the right rotation and stroke, I notice I'm not sinking as I use to.
Diana Prout great! This means your arm is moving in the correct space. Thank you for sharing your experience. 🙌🏽🏊🏽♀️🔥 -Coach Mandy
Exactly. What Diana said. I’m going through the same thing. Feels good with the higher elbow entry as well.
I find getting in to the ideal rotation to be one of the more challenging things about cleaning up my stroke. Any advise on some cues I can use to know what the proper “feel” is in the water for proper rotation? Thx Coach Mandy
I feel like the 1st and 2nd demo had unfair comparison to the 3rd just to prove the point "it's all in the rotation". You were barely kicking in the 1st and 2nd demo which can be sole reason to your hips sinking. As well as the arm stroke was noticeably better in the 3rd demo compared to the 1st where your arm was almost completely relaxed.
I'm doing Demo 1 just recorded today. Thks
Your over rotation demo made me laugh! I might even be doing it and not realizing it, so I shouldn’t be laughing. Lol.
hahaha it's okay! At least you know and will find ways to correct it! 😀🏊
I can’t really see a difference between your flat and corrected form. You seem to rotate plenty in what you say is flat. In the absence of video, how can I tell if my rotation is enough-i know for certain it’s not too much. I try to lead the rotation with the hips and let the shoulders follow. Great videos!
The trick is to drive the arm, fingertips first, into rotation where you are rocking with the opposite hip rising and your body is in a good streamline. The sets up a strong catch and pull where you are using your large back and chest muscles and not your shoulder muscles.
Thanks very clear
Messaoudi Mahmoud you’re welcome! 🏊🏼♂️ -Coach Mandy
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Thank you Philip! 🙏🏼
I love this channel as it gives the detailed nuances of swimming efficiently. Rotation is just one of those intricate details. It's not one of the things which most coaches concentrate on especially at the beginner's stage. Extending the arm stroke helps in getting that rotation. The trouble is where to stop it & breathing on the side disturbs the momentum of the right rotation as most beginners & intermediate swimmers over rotate & breath way too high combining the rotation & the head turn to breath. The trick is not to mix up breathing & rotating. Breathing is an independent step which let's us..well breath by deliberately doing a head turn & rotation should be done independently irrespective of the head turn to breath or not . Rotation needs the head to be still. This is profoundly felt when doing backstroke where the rotation is felt from the shoulders to the feet,however the head has to be still. Breathing in backstroke is not an issue & therefore the difference is evident. Be sure to apply that in freestyle.✌️
Thanks Gaurav.That was much needed advice.Can you tell me how to practice the head remaining still and catching up breath without feeling breathless or tired soon? Has it got to do anything with the kick rising out of your hips?
vina nair you should be efficient in kicking by the hips, it helps a lot for not being breathless & reduces the stress on your legs ,thus you are not easily tired . As for breathing correctly & adequately you should first of all know that the higher you try lifting your head, the more drag you are gonna create & drown a bit more too. Therefore, you have to breathe very swiftly by rotating you head to any side where the rotation is taking place. The head should move in the same way as you would move it when you are standing & trying to look to you left /right without moving the body. The surface of the water should be like the middle line till where you should rotate you head & inhaling by the mouth is quicker & more abundant ,do that swiftly before your arm stroke of the respective side.
As for your head remaining still, try that while standing on your toes & looking at an object at your eyesight level,while moving your body left /right without losing the focus on what you see. You can only do that till a certain angle & that's the amount of rotation you would need in the water too. In the pool,backstroke is a very good exercise where your whole body rotates but not your head. Try it slowly at first & you'll get the hang of it.
@@gauravjha8938 Thanks again.But, I have noticed that keeping my eyes at an angle is more helpful than looking perpendicularly towards the bottom,unlike in breaststroke. It enables me to glide smoother and rotate better.So by the head level you mean as when you are asked to pose for photographs with chin up or chin down nearly touching your neck as in breaststroke? Because though breathing also comes easily with head at an angle than perpendicular its slackens speed! Any suggestions about how to harmonise all these or is this technique wrong?
vina nair You can definitely add a slight angle according to your comfort ,practice, requirements, situations etc but the general direction is perpendicular. You just need to approach the perpendicular angle. Everyone has a different comfort level & according to their build, motion, sense etc the angle is a bit alternating.
I don't know what hinders your breathing without watching your technique, however the rotation in itself shouldn't pose any issues no matter whichever angle.
As for losing speed, no matter which ever angle rotation you do, the speed takes a hit. It's just that you have practiced your strokes with a certain formation that makes you feel more comfortable with that motion & therefore the discomfort with other forms. That's why I said the head rotation should be done swiftly, the minimal time you take for the breath, the better. You should practice inhaling as quickly as possible & exhaling as slowly as possible.
To synchronise everything you need to concentrate on your form & be very aware not to mess up the technique while doing so. Most people ask a friend, trainer etc to watch their technique & then practice to harmonise all the steps together. Ask someone to record your stroke to see what your form & technique looks like. Only then you can identify where you need to focus more on.
@@gauravjha8938 Thanks once again.I will get back to you after a few more swim sessions.Its very nice of you to share your knowledge.
Do you rotate more when taking a breath? Also, when do you start to turn your head to take a breath using proper rotation?
Best coach❤
Thank you for your support! 🙏🏼
I've noticed, as I've gotten more skilled, I'll rotate my shoulders enough to where my lead arm shoulder is dropped to my chin. As the opposite arm completes the stroke cycle and starts to re-enter the water I'll brush out with my lead arm while coming into the catch. This provides a brace against the water that assists the re-entering arm the leverage needed to rotate the new lead shoulder to align with the chin. And with practice has resulted in a nice S pull with good hip and shoulder rotation.or at least it looks that way to me.
do you have an opinion on the „ocean walker technique“, where he rotates like 180 degrees.. it looks very efficient from the outside. Did you ever try it ?
I just found your channel, great advice, I over rotate now that I have seen your form. How do you feel about nose exhalation? Thanks!
Hi Jose! Yes I have a couple videos out in breath control here: ua-cam.com/play/PLtkHLt3sCyVqenp5R0b2XNiJLzBJRGVS0.html
Exhalation from the nose helps control your exhale so you become more comfortable and efficient in the water. 👍🏼🙌🏽🏊🏼♂️ -Coach M
Like these vids! Short and to the point!
I think arm gets relaxed more when u release them higher .. plz correct me if I’m worng
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Hello coach Mandy, I. was wondering if the rotation initiate from your shoulder or your hips, sometimes I feel like my shoulder are rotating and my hips are just along for the ride. Too answer your question my arm release feel my nature in a oval release
Ray B hips! If you focus there your shoulders will follow at the same time. Nice work! 🏊🏼♂️👍🏼🙌🏽😄 -Coach Mandy
hello coach M i’m working on my breathing on the left side and it affects the extension of my right arm and all together they disrupt my rotation. if only it was possible to live halved 😄
Luca Gian try the rehearsal drill from my breathing playlist until you get comfortable on your left side. 🙌🏽🏊🏼♂️🙂 -CM
Hello there.I have gone through the phase while learning freestyle where i swam like in demo 2. And it took me quite sometime to learn to breath with the correct rotation as in demo 3.But i have to admit swimming like that i cant even complete 20 mts.In between i switch to breaststroke to recover my breath!So can you tell how to swim freely for longer periods using freestyle with proper breathing?
Hi vina, one of my videos on breath control will help with this exact point. It takes time to learn the right timing but the breathing rehearsal I have demonstrated will help with the process. I would advise to practice it as often as possible. 🙌🏽 Here are the three videos below:
ua-cam.com/video/5Yz45IohPOg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/mMbSXbUf3d0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/UChdKF7yjM4/v-deo.html
Let me know how your practice goes with the rehearsal! 🏊🏼♂️👏🏼 Coach Mandy
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my favourite stroke
Thank you for the video. Feedback: I tend to skip a lot of the intro stuff in your videos (90 seconds on this video).
This is because I’m watching multiple videos on the same swimming topics and don’t have time for the fluff
It doesn’t bother me, but maybe it hurts some of your metrics so I thought I’d mention it
Can you clear up something for me. Your video on timing of the kick in freestyle says it should be like walking i.e. pull with left arm and kick with left leg. Makes sense to connect through your core - so I changed (not so easy). I then watch the above video and you are kicking and pulling on the same side?
I think extending the arm helps a lot to achieve proper rotation. Have noticed thriathletes do not fully extend, for unknown reasons.
About your question. As i understand release is part of the stroke before the exit and when the propulsion phase is over. To be honest i never gave it a thought. Think i got high release.
Thanks for the video Coach Mandy.
Bozhidar Madzharov yes because typically triathletes are runnings so the running pattern starts to show in the water. Definitely release the arm on exit to complete the stroke. You can really feel a difference in propulsion when it is corrected. 🙌🏽 -Coach M
Any tips for a two beat kick, for someone who can’t properly kick at all????
Hi Benny! Great question - I have a complete step by step course on how to practice and execute a two beat kick. It is inside my SWIMVICE Kickstart program. Check it out for 7 days free inside the platform here: community.swimvice.com
Let me know if you have any questions! Best, Coach Mandy
I am not able to float (trust me), have high muscle mass and low body fat (8-10%). What is your advice for balancing in the water? Also, if I keep moving, I don't sink but if I slow down, I start to sink which is incredibly exhausting. Thanks.
David C. I understand where you’re coming from. I’ve actually worked with quite a few swimmers with low body fat who have dealt with the same issue. Here’s two areas to focus on which could be causing your problem and have significantly helped those in similar situations 👍🏼:
ua-cam.com/video/gdoblx_pFeA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/5Yz45IohPOg/v-deo.html
Definitely keep me posted if you feel any progress throughout your training! 👍🏼🏊🏼♂️ -Coach Mandy
l feel extremely comfortable with a high elbow catch. And six kicks rotating from side to side.
Awesome Michael! Enjoy your practice 🙌🏊♂️ Coach Mandy
Does the width of the arms at entry and extension impact rotation?
Yes, definitely. If you cross over your body will over rotate especially during a breath. 🙌 keep your entry and extension shoulder width apart. This will help prevent injury as well. 🏊♂️👏 -Coach Mandy
For long distance and flat/calm open waters I'd rather have the arm as low as possible over the surface, with some overrotation to add glide with less effort ( see Adam Walker tech). For speed possibly a higher arm improves some momentum to the stroke, more effort and more speed.
Feel my body more stable when the arm strokes are wider. But I saw many videos told you to naturally s-shape slice through your tighs. Don't which one is correct. Still experimenting.
Yes as long as your careful to not force the S curve from the shoulder you are ok 👍🏼. The s curve happens naturally to avoid injury. Keep experimenting I love it! 🙌🏽🔥🏊🏼♂️ -Coach Mandy
Your videos are nice and informational, but in this video the flat swimming and over rotation part are little exaggerated ones I guess. Hardly any one swim like that. Although it is Good to know what difference a slight bad posture can bring to the entire swimming experience. Thanks!
kunal pardesi I understand where you are coming from. However, I have seen it many instances from coaching new swimmers but I also have to exaggerate so viewers see the point made. Actually, for the swimming flat demo, I’m still rotated but I have seen many lap swimmers swim flatter than that! 😬 -CM
Hi , I'm a new swimmer, I've lost 2 Stine swimming but I only breast stroke, I'd love to swim freestyle but as soon as I rotate my head I get water in my ear and usually take a breath of water , help
U swim beautiful.. any rotation drill recomendation?
Hi coach, how to use hip in freestyle with 70% power from hip
Hi Chinh stay tuned as I will have more on the subject but for now here are some videos related to kicking from the hips:
ua-cam.com/video/LFgKgXOi_WA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/xXQYarayAcw/v-deo.html
🏊🏼♂️👍🏼 -Coach Mandy
That is a very beautiful pool you are in.
I notice your right recovery arm is straight. I was taught to be sure elbow is higher than wrist and hand to prevent shoulder injury. It doesn’t
Look like you do this-will this cause shoulder injury?
You’re right, Cindy. A straight arm recovery has higher rotational inertia. In other words it’s harder to do.
I think rotating with the arms lower is easier but not too low as you will not be able to rotate.
My comment is a little different and there may not be an answer which is the same for everybody. If I swim for 20 to 25 minutes a day, how long will it be before I notice some changes in my body? I am female and 79 years old. 🙄🙄 Thanks for any input.
Hello Susan, great question. Based on meta-analysis, if you do three - six sessions a week of cardiovascular activity (swimming, walking, etc) for 30 to 60 minutes, you will significantly reduce visceral fat without being in a caloric deficit! Moderate or high intensity gives the best results and you will start to see a difference in about three weeks if you remain consistent. Enjoy your practice! Best, Coach Mandy
@@SWIMVICE Thank you for your reply. I need to do longer swimming sessions but it will have to be little by little as I get tired. I am swimming for about 20 minutes a day most days of the week. I have made a commitment to myself to do this and I look forward very much to seeing the results you describe. ☺️☺️
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I'll be running out of energy when I swim. Solution???
Maybe you are overusing your legs? The muscles in the legs and butt are the biggest so if you use them too much you will drain yourself from energy. Try to swim with as little motion as possible (without sinking with your legs) and see how that feels. You can also lose a lot of energy if your breathing is "bad". Maybe you are not breathing out completely before going in for the inhale? in that case there will be too much CO2 in your body and that will kill the swimming after a while. These are my tips as i have struggled with them myself before :)
Hi Paul I understand your struggle. I have some videos on breath control, increased drag, and the kick that could be where you are wasting your energy. I have them linked below:
1. ua-cam.com/play/PLtkHLt3sCyVqenp5R0b2XNiJLzBJRGVS0.html&feature=share
2. ua-cam.com/video/xJrwuUCL5ME/v-deo.html
3. ua-cam.com/video/xXQYarayAcw/v-deo.html
Let me know if you have any questions and keep me posted on your progress! 🏊🏼♂️👏🏼 Coach Mandy
I'm becoming the first wetless swinace coach
My son only over rotates when he breaths and it's impossible to get him to stop. Advice?
MaxxHeadroom have him relax with the breath and not rush so quickly this will help eliminate the abrupt movement. Keep it simple for now and get him to relax which is a huge priority. I’ll be posting more in the future as well! 🙂🏊🏼♂️ -Coach M
@@SWIMVICE makes sense. The faster he goes the worse he gets. Starts watching his arm as it enters like it's the seconds hand on a clock follows it all the way in. Hard to break the habit when he swims on team and does it so much.
Maybe a cue could be just bring your elbow just below surface
It’s not really rotation but winding and unwinding
Hey I have that same swimsuit pattern on my speedo backpack.. LoL.. seriously...that most be a speedo suit.. LoL
Matt Zod haha shhh 🤫 no one needs to know my secrets lol! -Coach M
Come race me in NYC... LoL...I will bring my bag.. and flippers.. hahahaha
Matt Zod haha yes! ✌🏼👯♂️🏊🏼♂️
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Ok, looks like I'm rotating too much. Going swimming in about 40 minutes, so will concentrate on this.
Why on the first 2 wrong demo's her arms were straight, swimming like a windmill, then on the correct 3rd demo she brought her elbows higher
primuscus noticed the same thing plus no kick
Hi primuscus Typically over rotating and swimming flat happens with a straight arm. The release of the arm is still straight in the final demo but due to the timing of my arms the bend happens naturally only at the entry. I have this point discussed further in a couple of videos I linked below as well as the kick. When your rotation is balanced correctly, it is easy to have a two beat kick (what you observed as looking like I’m not kicking). When balance is not corrected due to poor rotation, the legs will kick more as a response to being out of balance. Here are a few of my earlier videos explaining those two points. Hope this clears up the confusion! 👍🏼🙌🏽🏊🏼♂️
ua-cam.com/video/aETk2PJ-l1s/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/qPQcHBHVYWo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/gdoblx_pFeA/v-deo.html
🏊🏼♂️ Coach Mandy
Hi Doug This message is in response to both you and primuscus but not sure if you would get an alert so just in case here’s what I have written above 👍🏼: Typically over rotating and swimming flat happens with a straight arm. The release of the arm is still straight in the final demo but due to the timing of my arms the bend happens naturally only at the entry. I have this point discussed further in a couple of videos I linked below as well as the kick. When your rotation is balanced correctly, it is easy to have a two beat kick (what you observed as looking like I’m not kicking). When balance is not corrected due to poor rotation, the legs will kick more as a response to being out of balance. Here are a few of my earlier videos explaining those two points. Hope this clears up the confusion! 👍🏼🙌🏽🏊🏼♂️
ua-cam.com/video/aETk2PJ-l1s/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/qPQcHBHVYWo/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/gdoblx_pFeA/v-deo.html
🏊🏼♂️ Coach Mandy
SWIMVICE thanks I will watch Doug🐬
Very beautiful, can you put translate arabic in videos
Yes! I will soon 👍🏼
! think you're rotating enough (too much for the demo) in the "flat" example. Nevertheless I get the principle.
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Cela serait bien en français.
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Wow...I think I over rotate...
That's okay, now you know! It is really common and one of the main reasons why freestyle breathing is difficult to execute properly. -Coach M
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You're sweetie 😉
..."rotating way too much, which is very easy to do" If you have to keep your head still in all positions (due to injury) guess you have to rotate quite a bit...
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Those arms and legs on the "correct" example, though... Being that said, dear coach mandy I wouldn't mind rotating you at all! but get those dangerous women nails off first, please.
Not getting the proper breathing...