Bakerloo Exposed Part2. Queens Park to Harrow PLUS Stonebridge Park!
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- A detailed video describing many moves available on the line Northbound from Queens Park to Harrow and Wealdstone in a high quality drivers view.
I love being part of the UA-cam community and your support really helps to encourage me to keep creating new content for your enjoyment.
As always, I welcome questions and comments 😊
The feedback I have had from everyone has been phenomenal!
I cannot express enough how your words of encouragement mean to me and this little project.
I do need some help in getting these videos out to more viewers, I am currently unable to explain why, but I really need to keep the views rising so that I can continue this series.
If you are able to share this video that would be perfect 👍
Thank you so much for your support! 😊
You deserve it my friend! All your work has been as you say phenomenal! and I really hope it continues. I have shared the videos with my friends, these are the best cab ride videos and route learning videos on youtube! Well done you should be as proud as we are!!! ❤❤!
@@bIuebitten4675 I am very proud, thank you very much again 😊
I did get in a bit of trouble with the company because I didn't ask permission to record first. I'm trying to get permission to upload the rest of the series soon!
If these episodes show enough success, that will help me I believe! 🤞
@@awesomecreationschannel aww sad to hear! I really hope they give you permission so that this series can grow. Push through it and it will come! :D
Hi, just wanted to check in to see if you were planning on uploading the next part? I’ve been checking your channel eagerly for it!
@@omari9593 hi! Yes the next one will be out very soon!
In complete honesty, I didn't get permission from work to do these recordings and I did get in a little bit of trouble 😬
That has been resolved now and I am able to publish the rest of the episodes!
I'm on annual leave for the next 2 weeks so I will finally have time to get the episodes finished for you 😊 👍
Much prefere the raw sound than background music. Great vid!
Thanks for the video.
No to more background music. The motor sound is enough ;)
Love the little comments - signals, points etc - prefer the raw sound as well !
Someone ring up Jago Hazzard and tell him about this channel!
I enjoyed that greatly, Thank you. Think I prefer the natural sounds rather than the music.
Really enjoying your videos. Please natural sound with out the background music adds to feeling of being there.
What a great video, made even better by the explanations. Thanks for posting, and please please please no background music!
Awesome video's - I've really enjoyed them. For me - no music please, The sound of the train is plenty, and anyone into this sort of thing, I think will be the same. To say it again fantastic work. All the extra explanation really add so much.
Fantastic job mate! all the best for you from brazilian enthusiastic.
Having watched Part 1 of this series a while ago I am pleased that you have taken on board my request to add the station name to future videos, also the information on screen text is very good and informative rather than voice over. I like the way you cover all the main routes and off shoots including going through a train washing plant... Well Done ! Whilst watching this episode it occurred to me that it would be great if you could show at the start the section of the Tube Map that the episode is going to cover. Oh, and yes, yes, yes, more 'music overs' please, especially if it's going to be the same quality as your choice in this video... Already looking forward to Part 3 !!!
First class video very well made with info and station names plus high quality these types of video are a lot better without music as music spoils the ambiance so please leave the music to the pop video makers. Love going through the depot at Queens Park.
I love your videos. In my option the natural background sound is WAY better than background music by a longshot!
I really love the quality of your excellent videos. As for the music I would rather have no music. However at least your music wasn't irritating unlike some of the other video makers on so many Railway and Aviation videos these days. But I definitely prefer your videos as they are with all the natural mechanical sounds. I really enjoyed watching this interesting and informative video. Thanks for uploading.
Thanks very much Michael 😊👍
Next video is coming soon!
Hi there, we saw each other at Oxford Circus earlier today (you were driving), great videos, liked and subbed. Keep it up. (I'm the ginger one of the two you saw from us.)
Nice to see you @rjtravelx426 😁👍
Thorughly enjoyed this one too. Just enough information. Liked the trip into the depot. Thank You
I'm Brazilian and I lived in Wembley, near Stonebridge Park station. I used this line several times. I have only good memories and many photos of these compositions. Thank you very much for registering. 🇧🇷🏴
Fantastic presentation , great content and really well explained ,look forward to more.
love it you never fail to make me wanna get it to that cab at 5 am with my coffe
This is just great content! The real sound is a gift!
Like being in the cab with you (can’t shake hands tho).
Thanks, subscribed. ❤
2:48 Queen's Park
5:23 National Rail signalling
7:10 Kensal Green
10:57 Willesden Junction
13:16 Harlesden
15:26 Stonebridge Park
17:40 Train wash
22:17 Wembley Central
24:13 North Wembley
26:08 South Kenton
28:01 Kenton
30:34 Harrow & Wealdstone
33:02 Siding
Awesome stuff! ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Reminds me of the Drivers Eye View DVDs which were narrated by Rob Curling.
The footage was phenomenally filmed and edited - and really interesting to learn about all the sidings / turn back points etc.
Can’t wait for part 3 - I’m particularly interested in seeing the Bakerloo line depart southbound from the northbound platform!
Informative and interesting, better without music.
One of the best in-cab Underground videos. Very interesting and helpful explanations and comments in your detailed captioning. Music? Only when you fade down the ambient audio track. Look forward to more videos.
Thank you for your amazing message Richard 😊
I left a comment on Part 1 but this is just as good. Can't wait to see what you do next!!! Also looking forward to seeing the SB version. Such a very enjoyable watch. Keep up the great work. Also have to say I love the bit in Stonebridge Park depot!!! That as well as the siding at Harrow have to say my best bit!!! But the whole video is just fantastic!!
Thank you so much for you kind words 😊 👍
This is splendid stuff - one of the best in-cab videos I've seen. I thought I was a fairly clued up rail nerd but I've learnt things I didn't know before!
Thank you very much for your kind words Michael 😊👍
I am the real train nerd here lol! I know about camshaft, motor relays, wheelslip protection etc you name it!
I really like these videos as they are a great mix of cab ride with great and interesting explanaitions. Looking forward to the next videos!
I prefer the original audio, however if you are radioing the shunter/line controller then I can understand you cutting out the audio. Thanks for the upload.
Brilliant stuff! Thank you :)
The trains are their own music (but banjo and barrel organ would deffo be a "hard no"!). One cab ride Tuber, who does routes in Spain and Italy, includes an on-screen graphic showing speed, position on route and gradient (altitude too, though I suspect not such an issue anywhere on TfL services).
Love you output ..... thanks so much for posting.
Excellent videos, keep ‘em coming but best with no music please.
If you haven't already, then I would appreciate your subscription and if you can share the videos that would be a great help, thank you so much 😊
This video is really interesting, thanks. I will subscribe. And, no music please!
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Hi buddy.
Great vlog. Love the way you explain everything.
I spent 14 years on the central and District lines as a motorman.
62 stock on the central, D stock on the district. Yeah I know I'm an old git.🤣
Never had cause to go on the Bakerloo.
Thanks buddy.
DELPH JUNCTION
PS. Music like that👍Rap.👎
Again brilliant and hopefully some more to follow
Great vid, prefer the sound of train and controls!
Please: no background music! Trains have their own music. Really enjoying the ride!
Been up there recently on recon works installing concrete sleepers. The old timbers were shot to bits I'm surprised they maintained Track gauge.
Wonderful video, thank you! I am from Germany and interested in public transport systems, the London Tube especially. All the extra info you give and "little secrets" you uncover in your videos add so much on top to the already interesting cab view! I also like the excourses to depots. Really enjoy your content and looking forward to new videos. Will there be videos on other lines than bakerloo as well?
Thank you very much for your kind words 😊 👍
I am working on more lines in the future.
I think it's a great use of existing resources, having Tube stock and overground trains sharing the same rails... I guess it's been like that for many decades?🤔
Yes please some more music
Was so excited that u put another video up. Even tho I’m from up or down north lol. I love the London Underground. There is just something about it that makes it special.
Ps. Can we just have the underground noises from the tube train, that’s what makes it.
Thanks for the very nice comment bud 😊
Only 1 person said yes to music! 😂
But it's given me an idea for an extra couple of episodes 👍
@@awesomecreationschannel oh nice one, can’t wait for next one.
I’ve learnt loads today.
Keep up the awesome work pal. 👍😁
Being from Harrow originally and having travelled this line a lot it's a nice reminder of times past made better by the sounds! Music takes something away from these videos although I will say it's better than what I've heard on other vids! Keep up the good work👍
I love these videos, haven’t noticed the music, I quite like it personally. I also subscribed. Would love to see more videos like this, perhaps on other lines if you can?
Better without the background music! Great video!
I'm guessing the music was introduced to blank out a sensitive conversation or radio message?🤔
Superb and very educational. Don't mind the music
The sound went really weird after min 21, not sure if there was a glitch in the matrix or what. Great video still!
It might be your device, I've not had anyone else mention a sound issue.
Sometimes when I watch UA-cam on my Xbox the sound goes glitchy.
First time I seen your channel. Brill are you planning any more Paul in Kent
Hi Paul, yes I am planning on more train content and some new content very soon 😊
We can easily get music anytime, but hardly get the train noise elsewhere!
Further more, it is of interest to "see" what causes all the clicks and clacks when you're driving 😇
Thank you very much totally enjoyed the video. Will there be Harrow to Elephant & Castle??? Be another good watch. 😊
Thank you very much! Yes there will! 😁👍
Underground passes over the Overground (Watford/Euston line) at 27.35 😄
Technically yes! 😂
Ok, I'm really confused about my credit at 27:17, I'm thankful for the shoutout, but I don't recall saying anything about the formation of metropolitan line trains.
BTW, there is a very SLIGHT possibility (1 in a fleet of 59) that one of the trains passing overhead in this shot could be the single unit of S7+1 stock, which is a train of S7 stock (with longtitudinal seating throughout) with an extra car added to make it into 8 cars. An interesting techinal note is that each train of S stock is formed of two units, each with a driving cab at one end, on S8 stock these are both formed 4+4, on S7 3+4, but on S7+1, it's 3+5, this is because the extra car was added to the four car unit, for reasons unknown.
This train can be identified because it has an S7 stock number for its driving motors (21323+21324, S8 stock uses 211XX for DMs) The additional car is 25386
You were the first person to comment on my initial upload of episode 2 and you corrected the line going overhead.
I was able to take the video down and edit it correctly 😊👍
I think I like the music off as it doesn't give me the raw sound and as much immersion. Btw are u a driver on the Bakerloo? edit: Are you the driver in the video or are you not a Bakerloo line driver irl?
I am a driver on the Bakerloo 😊
@@awesomecreationschannel I am intrigued to know how it actually feels does it feel good, enjoyable or just normal and do you see what number you get because that is what I love to do. My favourite number is 3567.
@@bIuebitten4675 it is enjoyable to drive the trains, each one drives slightly different and it's nice to get one that is smooth several times in a day 😊
@@awesomecreationschannel yeah! 3558 has good motors! LT115, also 3299 a non - standard formation made with 3439 as a UNDM re numbered into 3399 and feels like the fastest unit! Currently driving 3240 in TSW3!
Bakerloo Line 1972 Tube Stock
YES!!!!!
I don't usually watch tube train cab rides but part 1 and 2 were interesting as they had the different scenarios (reversing, depot, siding etc). On NR although there are third and fourth rails, is fourth grounded and third 630 or 750V DC?
On the underground network we run on 630DC, that's 420v on the positive rail and 210v on the negative rail.
In the Overground section we have to run on 750v because that's what their trains use.
Im not sure exactly of the voltage ratios between the traction rails at this point, but it can interfere with our trains sometimes due to higher voltage spikes.
Thanks for the explanations!
No music, just the real sound.
How many zapped/electrocuted cats and other animals can be seen on the tracks in the overground parts of the lines?
As I understand, the outer traction rail (3rd rail) has a potential of + 420 VDC the inner one (4th rail) has - 210 VDC.
Are the traction rails always under voltage or only when a train is on this track section?
I assume, the traction lines are segmented, because of the regularly appearing "Gaps" in the tractions rails, for isolating shorts, maintenance cut off, "feeding" substations serving xy segments ...
How to push out a gapped train? With another train, I assume? That will take some time ;)
I would have a lot more questions (contact shoe wise), will try to google them ...
Hi Hector, I apologise for the delay in replying.
Honestly it's mostly foxes that fall victim to the traction rails which is sad to see.
You are correct with the voltages and they are live all of the time and yes, the traction rails are segmented into different sub section feeds.
If a train has become "gapped" so it has unintentionally lost traction over a set of points for instance, there are jumper cables that can be used but only in certain areas.
If a train is in a section where traction has been turned off, it will stall and then have on board batteries to supply essential equipment for a limited time.
Once traction current has been restored, the train should be able to continue to operate without assistance.
Very occasionally, one will need to be pushed out by another train following an extended period of loss of traction current.
I hope this helps and thank you for your comment 😊👍
@@awesomecreationschannel
Thx for the reply.
The jumper cables sound "interesting" ;)
@@hectorpascale1013 Luckily I've never had to use them, but they are significantly more heavy duty than car jumper cables 😂
North of Queens Park the power changes to +630v on the outside live rail and 0v (bonded to the running rails) for the centre one. This allows the Overground trains to share the tracks as they are 3rd rail/25kv only.
Curious to know if your trains are fitted with GSM-Rs on the NR section you share with LO?
Great videos by the way!
I don't know what they are so probably not! 😂😂
No music, thanks!
love it
No background music please
It spoils the beauty of the sound of the 72 stock
Class 377 at 22:50: hello there
Whats a 377 doing all the way out... oh wait the clapham junction to watford junction servers right
Yo, i saw you driving a Vic line train today
Yes you did! 😁👍
I subbed, looking forwards to Ep 3
PLEASE NO Background music!!!! Even that 50-seconds was hard to endure! Otherwise,, these videos are superb!
Nice vid, will there be another upcoming vid or no? And what is the ‘section gap’ meant to be and was Willesden Junction only a destination years ago for letting off passengers then continuing to Stonebridge?
Next video is out tomorrow! 😁👍
The rail gap is a position where you might become off traction and stall the train. Have you watched part 1 yet?
Willesden Junction is a large complex station that serves the Bakerloo line and several London Overground lines.
I imagine the rail roads around the area were built before the underground line was, seeing as there are lots of large rail depots in the area, so Stonebridge Park depot could have been slotted in at some point.
@@awesomecreationschannel Sounds good, looking forward to it! Thanks for the info and yes I’ve watched part 1 (London Road depot to Queen’s Park) I believe
Could you. Do the central line next
It won't be the next line, but it will be something I will try and do 😊
Oh my god. I want to be on the train going through train wash ❤️🤣🤣
Inside or out? 😮
@@TheHoveHeretic oh. Let’s have both lol
Hello! I should introduce myself. I used to drive underground trains in the Stockholm underground system in the 90s. Now I’m a moderate bus and railway enthusiast and also train sim player. I sometimes play TSW 2/3 where the bakerloo line is a prominent part. But some parts are stopped away in the game. Like the overground for instance. I have also visited London on numerous occasions up to my latest visit in 2012 I believe it was.
Anyway, at Wildesen Junction station there is a middle track terminating here. Is it still in use? Does trains terminate there now? Btw. Very clear customer friendly announcement at that red signal too! 😁
Hello Hasse! Thank you for the lovely comment 😊
So at Willesden Junction the middle track is called the Bay road, this is only for overground trains as the underground train is too long to fit in here.
I should have clarified that but I had already put a lot of information into the episode and I didn't want it to be overwhelming.
What I might do, is put together an additional information episode to further explain anything that I might have intentionally missed 😊👍
No thanks to the music. I prefer the sounds of the train, great vids btw.
There are parts of the track in and beyond the shed without central rail. How does the train get its power??
So the train has 7 carriages that are roughly 100m in length, 4 of these carriages are called motor cars and each of these cars have pickup shoes which run along the top of the traction rails.
As long as 1 motor car is in contact with the traction rails that motor car can move the train, it will be slower than normal until all motor cars are "on juice".
Please remove any music. Full enjoyment of these train videos comes without the distraction of music. Secondly, music is a very personal choice, and chances are that your choice of music will not be the next persons choice. In my case, I am sure that most peoples’ music choice will not match with mine. Thirdly, leaving out music will save you time. PS. Excellent videos. Could you please ensure that the station name is shown, so that I can follow your videos on a map. Keep up the excellent work.
I really want to see how to set up the train
Also the Bakerloo line is my favourite line and I’ve always been fascinated by it so these vids are perfect for me
Modern Railways recently had a teport about track renewal. Are there sections still needing replacing ? The track mostly sounds smooth.
There have been a lot of track replaced on the way to Harrow but on the approach to Willesden Junction it still needs work.
The camera doesn't quite pick up the full amount of sounds and vibrations you get 😬
I recall sneaking into the rear cab of a A60 Stk between Harrow on the hill and Wembley on the fast in the 90,s it was clocking 75 mph whats the max of the 72 stock. And where on the line was max speed allowed in the past
Max line speed is 45mph but to be honest, the 72 stock barely reaches that speed anyway, it's a bit too old for that 😂
I think i know the answer to this question already, but since the bakerloo line shares track with national rail, does the 72 stock have GSMR,AWS,TPWS,DSD or is it not required? I am aware of the safety systems used on London underground
I only know what AWS is out of all of those 😂 And we don't have that in the sense that you mean.
Because we have to push the handle down at all times to drive we don't need to be reminded to push anything periodically.
Our Audible Warning System is an indicator for train defects.
Thanks for the reply. I'm a bit late to the party, but I really enjoy this series very educational I play train sim world and the bakerloo line is very enjoyable @awesomecreationschannel
@@seanlowe4780 thank you for the comment and taking the time to enjoy the series 😊
Why are their gaps between the live raid and also the centre rail
They could be for a couple of reasons. 1st, it might be the end of one traction current section and the start of another.
2nd, it might be at a points crossing.
This vid was done recently? How I know this is because that Greater Anglia Train at Stonebridge Park has been there for a while as I regularly commute on the Bakerloo line and saw it on Friday (24th March)
I made several recordings from the beginning of January through to the end of February 👍
The Bakerloo line should have the extension to Watford Junction reinstated.
There are extension plans going ahead but I think they focus on new tunnels to Lewisham at the moment.
@@awesomecreationschannel The Watford Junction extension would be cheaper as the infrastructure is already there. However with the Lewisham Extension, it will be the first major spending on the a Bakerloo line since its inception. Historically it seams to always get the left overs.
Hey, great video mate. I think the music fits well when it covers up the silence, but otherwise it's better without. A couple of questions... How does the train maintain power going through the train wash with such a massive gap between traction current rails? Also, are TFL aware you make these videos? I'd like to imagine they fully support the idea, it's interesting to see all this stuff.
The 1972 stocks are fitted with motor relays that cut the power from the motors when too much power is applied. Same thing with the 3rd rail cutting out like you said. The way the train maintains power going through the wash is that they don't. The driver applies a small amount of power to the TBC called ''shunt'' this allows the train to crawl along at a pace that is enough to go through the wash with no power. However there is still power in the motors that allowed the train to move a tad quicker.
Hi Liam! I apologise for missing this comment!!
Blue has given a great answer which covers most of the explanation, thanks bud 😊👍
So as long as at least 1 motor car is on the traction rails (on juice) that car can push or pull the rest of the train.
The train is 100m long so it has to be a gap at least that big to stall a train. The only other exception to being gapped is when there are lots of small gaps close together that can take a train off juice.
The only real place this can happen often is at Harrow sidings.
TFL are aware I've made these, I will admit that I did not ask permission and I got in a little bit of trouble 😬
I am currently seeking permission to upload the rest of these series, so the more views and subscriptions I can get will help my cause!
@@awesomecreationschannel Hey mate it's all good cheers for the response. I didn't even think about multiple small gaps being an issue for stopping a train but that makes a lot of sense, it's neat to know they only need one motor car on the rails for it all to work. I hope TFL grant you permission for the rest of the series because they're really interesting videos. Hope everything's ok with them in the end though and you didn't get in TOO much trouble lol. Cheers for the response!
Anyone know how many “ live” underground trains there are on the network at any one time on average. .?
It depends on the times of the day, base average I think is 20. Peak times it's more, at a guess I'd say around 25.
I'm sure there are only 36 available trains on the whole line, they are rotated to fit service and cleaning schedules.
This is something I'll be confirming in later episodes 👍
Good video and texts, but no Music please.
@@user-rj2by6pp7f I had to put in music over a very small time to cover sensitive information on a general broadcast 👍
Much prefer raw backround😂
No background music please!
I Suggest Vid Should Be Non Music
This is Everard Junction
I'm afraid I don't know what Everard Junction is, but that's not a stop on this line.
personally i hate background music. i just want the natural sounds please.
On the National Rail section, there is third rail. What NR services run on that?
The overground services use just one 3rd rail for power. After Harrow and Wealdstone the negative rail in the middle of the tracks dissapears because it's not needed.
@@awesomecreationschannel Thanks for clarifying. Is Overground considered National Rail, then?
@@ruawhitepaw yes if it's shared with National Rail, sorry I should have clarified that.
Some of the Metropolitan is above ground, I don't actually know if that is also part of the National Rail network or if it's part of the Underground network.
The difference between the two is signals and operational rules and regulations.
I'll try and find out 😊👍
@@ruawhitepaw yes if it's shared with National Rail, sorry I should have clarified that.
Some of the Metropolitan is above ground, I don't actually know if that is also part of the National Rail network or if it's part of the Underground network.
The difference between the two is signals and operational rules and regulations.
I'll try and find out 😊👍
@@awesomecreationschannel The Metropolitan line is entirely part of the Underground. However National Rail trains (Chiltern) to Aylesbury run over it between Harrow-on-the-Hill and Amersham. Between Harrow and Watford South Junction (just north of Moor Park) there are four tracks - the Slow Lines which serve the intermediate stations and the Fast Lines which only have platforms at Moor Park. These Fast Lines are signalled largely to National Rail standards, plus LUL trainstops. The same applies to the double track section thence to Amersham in order to accommodate the Chiltern trains. The latter are equipped with LUL type tripcocks to work in conjunction with the trainstops. Hope this helps.
Please please no background music!!!
@@philbartlett7898 don't worry, there isn't on the rest of this series 😊👍
NO music
No to the music. Would prefer only what the driver hears. If I wanted music I would turn on the radio. There are too many channels on YT that force their own type of unwanted music down our throats, please don't be one of them.
Class 745 at 20:57: hello there
Whats a 745 doing this far west