Canon R5 MARK II - Coming in 2024
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
- Canon R5 Mark II is set to be announced/released in 2024 and here are some of the things I would love to see in the upgraded R5 Mark II. Beyond specs the original R5 is a fantastic camera but there are a few things I would love to see improved/fixed as a hybrid shooter.
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What features do you need/want in the Canon R5 II?
Higher image quality (not lower with a million frames per second), 16-bit RAW, lower base ISO (like ISO 50 or 25), built-in SSD storage, same type memory card slots (double CFX-B), , zero buttons on the left side of the camera, every possible feature for stills and timelapses, and ... I had more, but I can't remember now 😊 45mp is still great, but if it can do 85mp without any major drawbacks, then bring it on )) And it better shoot 12K oversampled 8K videos then )).
Sounds like a AI generated camera specs wise but that would be sweet!
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I want a fast, stacked sensor and no-blackout EVF. The no-blackout EVF of the R3 makes all the difference in the world for fast-moving targets and birds in flight. I don't need or want more than 45MP.
Nice video, Ricky! Definitely something to look forward to. Interesting to hear your thoughts! 👌
The world awaits.. coming on Canon.
Awesome video, I was in the process of purchasing the R5C but will now wait for the R5 MKII
Thanks. Yea, I'm in the same boat. I'm still 80/20 photo/video but the R5C has more range in video but I'm holding out to see what the R5II brings to the table.
I want two options related to continuous shooting. 1. Option to not shoot until flash is ready. 2. Set the frame rate for continuous shooting; lots of times I want 5 frames per second, not 15 or 20.
Full size HDMI. Dual Type C card slots. Stacked sensor. Increased battery life.
Hmm.... first time I heard someone mention battery life on the R5. I had mine almost since launch and the batteries have degraded overtime but still not an issue for me. 2x max per wedding or 1-2x per day out shooting. I would love a full side HDMI but it currently doesn't bother me, not secure I know but I also use the cable lock mech.
@@RickyCheung You notice it more if you've shot an R3. Plus, assume the R5 II has a larger sensor, better EVF, pre-buffer, etc. All of those things consume battery life. If they go with active cooling? More battery usage. To keep this short - I think you're going to appreciate the upgraded battery, or wish Canon had included one.
I have both the R5 and R3 bodies. I'm hybrid as well, shooting about 75% photo and 25% video for weddings.
I completely agree about the ergonomics of the R5 (and the R3 is even better), and also have issues with angle of the flip-out LCD screen. I hope Canon does what Sony did with theirs.
Resolution of 45MP is fine for me, but I'm also happy with the 24MP of the R3 (although I wish it was 35MP).
*Dual CFx slots* - Now that CFx cards are getting cheaper, I'd be cool with dual CFx slots.
*RECORD LIMIT* - Still can't understand why Canon hasn't done a firmware update to the R5 to remove the 30-minute record limit. My girl now shoots with my R5 bodies, and I needed to add a third body to my setup for video. I didn't want to buy a third R3 body, but wanted something that was comparable to the R5, but without the 30-minute record limit. I thought about the R6 Mk2, and it would have worked, except it doesn't record 4K DCI. So I ended up trading in a ton of my old Canon DSLR bodies and lenses and picked up a used R3 body. Now I have a third R3 body to use when shooting video.
*IBIS wobble* - This prevents me from using the RF 15-25mm f/2.8L IS at 15mm. I hope Canon can fix this issue.
*Punch-in while recording* - I often use the "movie crop" feature to get a little extra reach from my lenses, and wish I could customize a button to enable/disable this while recording video. Instead, I have to stop recording, dive into the menu to turn it on/off. I keep the menu ready so I can do it quickly, but still, it would be a welcome update.
What I'm really waiting for (more than an R5 Mk2) is the R1 body, and of course the RF 35mm f/1.2L.
I've had an ongoing "Canon wishlist" ever since the 5D Mk3. Most of it is photo-related, but I'm doing more video lately, so I'm adding a few video items to it also.
Thanks you. I thought I was the only one with the LCD not being square when flipped out, LOL.
I rocked the 1dx years ago and the heft wasn't worth the vertical grip even though we are magically shooting more vertical these days, haha! It was a tank however but I handle my gear with care, most of the time.
Interesting point on the R3 I'm wondering why not the R5C as your pick for the video centric but still capable photo camera?
Record limit is soo doable via firmware as some video agreement once set has expired but yea that's canon. I was ready to pick up an R5c as my main video focused camera but I will see what the R5II offers.
Thanks for your input. cool.
Oh and here I am still holding on to my beloved EF35mm 1.4L. hehe!
@@RickyCheung - The R3 isn't as heavy as the 1D-series DSLRs, in fact it's lighter than the R5 with a battery grip.
I don't do enough video to justify a video-centric (or non-weather-sealed) body like the R5C, so it made more sense for me to get a used R3 for my third body. For certain photography events, I roam around with two R3 bodies, and have a third body set up in a tethered studio setting (all at the same event). I had been using one of the R5 bodies for the studio setup, but my girl uses both of those now, and I like the R3 much better (even with less resolution).
Now if she has a wedding, on the same day that I have a wedding where I'm doing video instead of photo, I don't need to take an R5 body from her. I only use two bodies when shooting photo (other than the events mentioned above), but when shooting video for weddings I always have three bodies (and the DJI Pocket 3, just in case).
I wish Canon would do a firmware update for the R3 to give it some of the features the R6 Mk2 has. Like false color, pre-recording, etc.
Great setup.
Dope Camera! Definitely buying the R5 ii 8 months after it’s released!!
That’s a good way to do it as well. Wait for the kinks to get firmwared as you know all these new cameras have so much software now. Maybe a bonus on price too if there is comp.
I would like haptic feedback on the shutter button during electronic burst shooting, so I can feel the frames being taken
That's a very interesting one. I don't necessarily using electronic burst often enough but I totally understand that some sort of feedback would be a win. You must be shoot fast moving subjects, wildlife or sports?
Could add motion blur.
I predict - no record limit, newer hotshoe, better resolution evf and flip screen, full size hdmi, switch for photo and video like r6II, 60mp but with options for 45mp raw and smaller, less rolling shutter, new sensor so slightly better dynamic range, still only clog3, improved autofocus with AI technology, same battery and card slots as R5, much better heat management basically no overheating unless in extreme conditions in 8k Raw and 4k 120, 4k 60 and 4k 120 over sampled, smarter IBIS system which minimises wobble compared to r5.
This sounds 100% accurate given direction of canon cameras, reasonable and logical improvements without going overboard. What☝️said.
I consider X100VI as daily walk around travel camera and R5 + 24-70 for serious work.
Nice setup. Love the X100 series but I went small for my daily GRIII for daily carry.
Vastly increased dynamic rage is needed with the 62MP sensor.
Improved focus with pinpoint eye controlled focus.
It needs to be under $3,600 US. Affordability is paramount because my R5 is a great camera and I am happy waiting a year or two for the R5MkII's prices to come down or for it to start appearing on the used/refurbished market at affordable prices.
What do you shoot that you feel 45MP is not enough? As for dynamic range 100% for sure.
@@RickyCheung I capture images of Bald Eagles & wildlife. I shoot live concerts, rodeos, street photography, landscapes, you name it. Although I have lenses with plenty of reach, there are times when cropping is needed.
With 62MP's, I would get even more detail should I have to heavily crop an image.
Lenses also matter too. I have the 100-500 and my gosh the sharpness and detail is insane good for cropping as well.
@@RickyCheung True I rent a $13,000
RF 600 f/4 lens when I go to capture images of Bald Eagles. More importantly is knowing how to get the best out of lenses. Try tracking an Eagle with an RF 600 f/4 lens with an RF 1.4x extender producing an narrow view of 840mm! I have an RF 100-500 and it's amazing. Even with the RF 1.4x extender the image quality is outstanding! With 62MP's, cropping would be incredible!
I need to shoot with you one day :). I tried or attempted tracking bird in flight 100-500 at 500mm (so much fun) I had to zoom out soo many times just to reacquire tracking. lol. A different learning curve for sure. I can’t imaging trying with a 840mm fixed focal range, my gosh!!
Originally I was super excited for the R5 MK II to have a 60-mega pickle sensor. But I gave up waiting and got a GFX 50s. I will probably get a used R5 just for the 8K video and better resolution for my RF 28-70 lens when the MK II comes out.
I wish I can man up and go multi platform but I love ECOsystem stuck at that for now.
@@RickyCheung I've been a canon shooter for 20 years. I feel guilty using the GFX 50s!
lol. Very hard to make a lens choice when having multiple platforms. But if it works with your workflow, only wins.
@@RickyCheung i refuse to buy gfx lenses. i just use my ef lenses with an adaptor.
@CryptoJones that’s actually amazing. I had no idea there are adapters for gfx to EF. And EF lenses can be had for a bargain too at this point.
Currently only waiting for the r5ii and Sony a1ii. Whichever wins, that's the one I'm getting. In the meantime, I'm looking for an r5 for less that $2k.
Keep watch, the R5 prices will drop for sure as it already has. I'm still looking for a non-record limit R5 and up camera. Might even consider the R5C but battery life is just....... Maybe they will come up with an LPE6NH+ battery.
@@RickyCheung I will. Thank you for the advice.
I'm 70% photo, and the rest short-high-quality videos.
The current cameras can serve me well. If the coming versions won't offer much upgrades, I might settle on the current version. And invest in some good lenses.
You've mentioned something about the dynamic range. I'll do some tests.
@@RickyCheung My biggest problem with the R5C has always been the size. The almost perfect Canon camera. 😁
The IBIS wobble on wide lenses was such a bummer with the R5. I know some people didn't experience that as much which sounds like a quality control issue
Turn off and digital IS results in better image at the 15-20mm range but it’s a bit cropped in so we lose the wide end but yea it sucks. Interesting if that’s the case.
Other than what you added I would hope for better battery life 🤞
Improved battery life is always a win. 🤞
I’ll come back to Canon once they allow 3rd party lenses. No doubt the R6ii will be awesome. But what new camera released these days isn’t? My next purchase will likely be A7Rv and not the R5ii.
So, you’ll be back with Canon in March??
Third party lenses is coming and brands will be releasing RF mounts with AF.
haha!
@@Smokeyr67 Oh there are Sigma and Tamron lenses coming out for Canon in March? YES!!! Count me in for that Tamron 35-150mm f2 f2.8. And the 16-28mm f2.8 as well from Sigma as well as the 28-70mm f2.8 too. 😝
@@parmanduke Sigma only at this stage, they're happy to pay the licencing fee and comply with Canons demands - at least thats whats being rumored
In regards to the button layout: I sold it and got an R8 now, but always wondered what on earth do people use the 🔍 button in their workflow for? And does anyone actually use the RATE button? Those buttons were useless to me.
I use the 🔎 all the time to check focus via manual focusing or marco work in both photo/video mode but rarely have a need to rate button. More custom buttons would be great bonus.
would be cool if the r5iI has clog 2 out side of raw.
I never shot a camera with c-log 2 but I really would love to as I know everyone says you have soo much more latitude in grading. I do see Canon keeping that only for Cinema cameras though, not as a cripple hammer but a way to separating the line up.
My G.D, Im still using my Canon 5D MK III 😂, I cannot relate.
All good. I’ve been through every generation of the 5D series and still loved the images SooC from the OG 5D 12MP.
New AF sensor as that on R3?
I feel the next gen will always have better AF improvements, point proving with the R3/R6II. I do feel they still lack big enough improvements in dynamic range. Hope fully, we get both.
Couple observations. I owned R5, R5C and R6 mark ii. I would MUCH prefer the R6 mark II removal of the screen on top in favor of more customization buttons and the layout of the R6 II. I think if they bumped above 45MP and went with a triple stacked sensor as their patent(s) have indicated, then dynamic range shouldn’t suffer at all. I unfortunately sold R5 before the firmware that fixed the heat and got R5C. HATED the cinema software on R5C and limitations; I felt I could do more on R5 vs R5C even if that wasn’t reality. In the end if R5 mark II has 60MP triple stacked sensor with improved capabilities with R6 mark II layout - I think they’ll have a home run. They just can’t have the Canon cripple hammer. Give us what the R5 was, but make it better while removing nothing but the top LCD is fine and the world will rejoice .
Great points here. However I do love picking up the R5 looking at the top deck screen and know what mode I’m in VIDEO c1,c2,c3 or M or Cmode in photo. It’s quick that way. Interesting that you dislike the cinema menu. You eye balling the rumors as much as me…. Hahaha come on canon, don’t screw this one up.
@@RickyCheung C1,C2,C3 M are all on that R6 mark II dial though. Maybe I’ve gotten use to it too much now waiting for this damn R5 mark ii! I don’t remember the screen being as useful for some reason. Having 2 dials: one for photos/video on the left side and having the mode dial on the right with that clear on/off toggle just IMO feels better. All I know is if it ships with some BS recording limit or overheating issue, I promised my buddy I’d sell all my RF gear and jump ship for Sony. This is my final attempt in reaching some semblance of satisfaction with my body purchase. I have such high hopes for this R5 mark ii.
Very similar boat. No more cripple hammer.
@@RickyCheungyou hear latest news? They saying same MP count with same backside illuminated sensor. I can’t imagine the processor, AI added features worth 1K more than the R5 in cost. If this R5 mark II going to be a joke of an upgrade over R5; I swear I’m going Sony.
i made it in the video! i wonder if they will skimp on video features due to the fact that the r5c is available. i feel like they've done that in the past.
I don't think they will because of the ever increase in video needs in todays media consumption world but I just hope they don't cripple the Mark II with limitations as they always have with camera releases.
Does that mean that the r5c will be irrelevant once the r5 ii is out? Or maybe they will heavily discount the r5c so that people will still buy it? @@RickyCheung
They definitely won’t include many of the video tools present in the r5c such as shutter angle, false color, waveforms, lut support but they’re just nice to have and you get them if you use an external monitor anyway
Fx3 just got and update with some of these lovely tools but yet knowing canon. Probably only reserved for r5c
After R5 got the update for high temp mode. I’m sure many r5c hybrid owners sold them. Canon, canon playing games.
It appears I've finally become that old photographer who thinks, how could anyone possibly need a camera better than the R5?? 😂
R5 amazing camera and still will be for many years and many photographers including myself.
A dedicated photo/video button would be nice. - I also wish Canon and other brands would develop their apps better. I hate the Canon app. Wish it was as stable and useable like GoPro. I like being able to create profiles on my phone and then just upload them to the camera. Even be able to save them and upload them to multiple cameras (which GoPro doesn't even do).
Follow up to this I wish Canon would create better video centric hybrid cameras like the Sony A7s3. I tried out the R8 and it was so cheap feeling and used a little baby battery. I'd love something to compliment my R5 but smaller and video focused without cutting corners. Oh, and make the lenses smaller haha.
Would love a Sony A7cII type camera with RF mount from canon but it seems that really aren't planning the smaller bodies like the M series. Can you imagine an M series body style FF with RF mount :). I do agree on lens size, why so big!
Latest updates on the Canon App works better but agreed, it has stability/connect issues.
@@RickyCheung agreed. I'd love smaller full frame bodies. Still use the big batteries. Still weather sealed and built like a tank. Would be great. I also like the idea and rumors of modular EVFs that can plug into the smart hot shoes to cut down on size and use when needed.
3:04 This annoys me a lot. I have the R6. It’s the same. The only camera I’ve seen with it flat is Panasonic S and SII
OMG the struggles. I don't remember exactly but I think the FX3 is also flat and soo much easier to lock-in verticals and horizontals. Sigh.....
4k 240f/s!
That would be something I’d love to have.
I'm trying so hard not to pull the trigger on an original R5.
Depending on your needs/wants and what you might have now. It could be a good time.
@@RickyCheung Shooting with an R6 MKII. Definitely don't need a new body, but I might trade in my og R6 to help finance a new body.
@stevemadrid6522 ahhh I’m on R6/R5 combo. Cool!
I paid 500 bucks twice to get my R5 fixed after the warranty expired. The first time the shutter locked, the second time it stopped recording videos and shooting photos in high speed. Safe to say I won’t be buying the R5 II
Sorry to hear that. Seems like got a lemon, that's crazy to hear.
Yikes bro. Sounds like you should be carrying some personal property insurance for your camera; might be a cheaper option vs payouts for repairs
Mine has been nothing short of perfect going on 4 years. Cant wait for an updated version…it should be amazing!
I’m sorry about that. Not good for a high level camara 😢
I wish it would stay at 45mp.
Why? Is 60mp not much better?
@@christoffelbotha2087 overkill. 45mp is plenty. Also file sizes are going to be huge. As mentioned in this video, it could mean more noise.
So, stay in R5 then. Nobody is pushing you to buy the new r5m2
@@paestopagoelinternet330 I don't have an R5. It had a lot of issues when it was released. If I were to buy a new Canon, right now I'd pick the R6 Mkii. That is a GREAT camera.
I still think the R5 is a better HYBRID camera even today compared to R6II. Keyword folks is HYBRID, key features for both photo and video needs a balance.
R5mark2= $4799
Canon R1= $6399
Too expensive.
Those price points will move too many out of range for the R5II specifically.
Just not worth my time…hearing someone’s wish list! All conjecture!