From Jāhiliyya to Islam | D2 09\19 The Eschatological Muḥammad: Post-Qurʾ anic... - Sean Anthony

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  • Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
  • האקדמיה הלאומית הישראלית למדעים מתכבדת להזמינכם לכינוס הבין-לאומי ה־15
    The Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities takes pleasure in inviting you to attend the fifteenth international colloquium
    From Jāhiliyya to Islam
    מג'אהליה לאסלאם
    Monday, July 4, 2022
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    Chair: Yohanan Friedmann
    Academy Member, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Greetings
    David Harel, President, Israel Academy
    David Powers, Cornell University
    From Last Emperor to Last Prophet
    Nicolai Sinai, University of Oxford
    Jewish Motifs in the Theology of the Meccan Qurʾān
    Milka Levy-Rubin
    Inheriting the Land: Muslim Sanctification of the Holy Land in the Early Muslim Period
    Chair: Katia Cytryn-Silverman
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Christian Robin, CNRS emeritus, Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres
    A Himyarite Campaign against Najrān in June and July 523 ce
    Moshe Sharon, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    A European Construction Text Relating to the Dome of the Rock
    Tawfiq Daʾadli, Israel Young Academy Member, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    The Umayyad Palace of al-Sinnabra through Text and Archaeological Evidence
    Tuesday, July 5, 2022
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    Chair: Reuven Amitai
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, إياس ناصر, الجامعة العبرية في القدس
    Iyas Nasser, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    هل عاد الشّاعر إلى أطلال محبوبته قصدًا أو عَرَضًا؟ وقفة عند أظهر المعاني الأدبيّة في قصائد الشّعراء قبل الإسلام ومَن أعَْقَبَم من المخضرم ين
    The Poet’s Return to the Abandoned Campsite of his Beloved -- A Deliberate or Coincidental Visit? A Discussion of a Dominant Motif in the Pre-Islamic and Early Islamic Qasị̄ da
    István T. Kristó-Nagy, University of Exeter
    Melting Golden Ages: Ibn al-Muqaffaʿ's Art of Politics and Culture
    Chair: Ella Landau-Tasseron,
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Sean Anthony, Ohio State University
    The Eschatological Muḥammad: Post-Qurʾ anic Prophetology in Arabic Inscriptions from the Marwanid Period
    Chair: Etan Kohlberg, Academy Member,
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Koby Yosef, Bar-Ilan University
    The First Shāfiʿ ī in Basṛ a: Abū Yaḥyá Zakariyyā ibn Yaḥyá al-Sājī (d. 919) and the Construction of the Authority of al-Shāfiʿ ī in Iraq during the Ninth Century
    Yaara Perlman, Princeton University
    Family Relations and Politics: The Case of Khālid b. ʿUrfutạ and Saʿ d b. Abī Waqqāṣ
    Guy Ron Gilboa, Bar-Ilan University, and
    Oded Zinger, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    “Listen to a Boast that Will Leave the Heart Dazed”: Jewishness and Arabness in a Fakhr Poem from the Cairo Geniza
    Wednesday, July 6, 2022
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    Chair: Tawfiq Daʾadli
    Israel Young Academy Member, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Michael Shenkar, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    The Palace from the Time of Nasṛ b. Sayyār (738-748) at Sanjar-Shah and Its Decoration
    Ofir Haim, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    A New Source for the History of Pre-Ghaznavid Zābulistān
    Mehdy Shaddel, Leiden University
    Translatio imperii, Translatio religionis, and Reichseschatologie at the Origins of Islam
    Chair: Michael Ebstein,
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Livnat Holtzman, Bar-Ilan University
    The Evolution of the Traditionalist Creed through the Prism of Ḥadīth al-Julūs
    Roy Vilozny, University of Haifa
    Pre-Existence: A Myth and Its Implications in Imāmī-Shīʿ ī Thought
    Thursday, July 7, 2022
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    Chair: Meir Bar Asher,
    The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
    Pavel Pavlovich, Sofia University St. Kliment Ohridski
    Ḥadīth Studies and the Principle of Uncertainty: Can We Reconcile Isnād, Matn, and Early Chronology?
    Yehonatan Carmeli, Bar-Ilan University
    Circumcision in Pre-Islamic Arabia and Early Islam
    Travis Zadeh, Yale University
    Alcohol and the Ḥijāz: Early Debates in Islamic Law and Ritual Praxis
    בימים שני עד חמישי ה' עד ח' בתמוז תשפ"ב
    Monday-Thursday July 4-7, 2022

КОМЕНТАРІ • 55

  • @alizawadi
    @alizawadi 2 місяці тому +1

    Inscriptions can be forged to appear ancient, antiquities is a lucrative trade and they often have more expertise than the academics themselves!

  • @3Crumbs
    @3Crumbs 2 місяці тому

    23:00 “not throw”, word is sajdah which translates to prostration.
    26:50 Prophet is speaking of his own resurrection. Please on your slides, give references so we can check the authenticity of Hadith that you quote.

  • @HO-be9fy
    @HO-be9fy 9 місяців тому +1

    Dr. Shean lived in the Middle East and he totally ignored the other side of scholars' studies on the origin of the Middle east languages. I recommend reading/watching Dr. Bahgat Al Qubais and Dr. Ahmed Dawod, their material is translated in English.

  • @asgarextassyforces7239
    @asgarextassyforces7239 Рік тому

    Great works...#respect thanks for knowledge... Greetings from Indonesia

  • @ashrafkhuffash7931
    @ashrafkhuffash7931 Рік тому

    Great work and study methodology. Research (er) ethics are highly appreciated

  • @artf2651
    @artf2651 Рік тому

    Just a point on text and theology
    1. The levant sham is mentioned as place of Mahshar-gathering before the day of judgement - the last place where people gather the destruction of the earth, last bunch of humanity there
    2. The earth of resurrection is a new place created
    this is what muslims believe according the texts

  • @tc7500
    @tc7500 Рік тому +8

    The Honest Title should be From Aramaic Christianity to Islam!

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому

      The title is Post Quranic escatological Muhamad, leave paganism in its place

    • @first9_yt
      @first9_yt Рік тому +1

      Yout little polemic brain isn't capable of receiving this.

  • @tc7500
    @tc7500 Рік тому +8

    Let me help you! The Arabic language wasn’t even written yet at the time of Muhammad! Only Aramaic! The first inscription written in Arabic was found in Jordan! Arabic was written for the first time created by Christian Monks who’s language was Aramaic Syriac and use their language and added DOTS to make the arabic dialects into a written form! Remember the early arab movement was a Christian movement!
    Obviously was an attempt of the Christian Monks to spread Christianity to the Arab beduins tribes.

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому +7

      U must have been drinking before writing this....

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому +7

      "The Arabic language wasn’t even written yet at the time of Muhammad! Only Aramaic! "
      - We have dated manuscript to that time ... not to mention rock inscription with actual dating..
      "Obviously was an attempt of the Christian Monks to spread Christianity to the Arab beduins tribes."
      - Well obviously is not, arabic script is a mix from nabatean and aramaic, but it was written in another script check Ahmad Jallad - safaidic script
      Similar jewish wasnt in this script early either

    • @tc7500
      @tc7500 Рік тому

      @@artf2651
      🤣🤣🤣 Show me anything anything anything written in Quraysh Arabic or even ANY Arabic so called 7 dialects before Muhammad or 7th century AD. I guess your God AL LAH didn’t know how to read and write until the Aramaic Syrian Christian monks made up the Arabic language to preach the beduins Arabs! Again! Don’t suffer from Attention Deficit Disorder, stay on topic and do the assignment! Again! Find me anything anything anything written in Arabic or ANY Arabic before the 7th century AC. After Christ!

    • @tc7500
      @tc7500 Рік тому

      @@artf2651
      You must be the one lacking any reading comprehension skills! Don’t attack me, try to attack the argument, if you can! But it’s obvious that Muslims don’t have any supporting arguments outside their own Scholars and Imams Lies! A cult for brainwashed Useful Idiots! Again read the argument about the original evidence of the FIRST Arabic language SENTENCE found in Jordan written by Christian Arabs again!

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому +7

      @@tc7500
      The one making these claims is you,
      what scholar makes these claims ?!
      What did arabs write, chinese ?!
      Its irrelevant how the script was developed, u said arabic wasnt written at the time of the prophet, which is ridiculous
      We have more supporting arguments for our religion all these studies testify to it

  • @ME-yp7fn
    @ME-yp7fn Рік тому +4

    هولاء المستشرقون لا يبحثون عن الحقيقة و لكن هم لهم اعتقادات مسبقة معادية للاسلام و يستخدمون لغة البحث العلمي و التزييف و التحريف لاثبات تلك المعتقدات, و هم لا يختلفون في شئ عن الاسلوب الذي اتبعته الفرق الباطنية عبر التاريخ الاسلامي بتفسيراتها المنحرفة للنصوص لتأكيد معتقداتهم, ولذا تجد هولاء المستشرقون يستشهدون باقوال الفرق المنحرفة الباطنية او غلاء الشيعة و لا يهتمون كثيراً من مصادر الاسلام الاصلية, فالمسلمون يتبعون الدليل و هولاء المستشرقون يتبعون الهوي, و لا يعملون بالقاعدة التي بني عليها علماء الاسلام العلم الاسلامي و هي "اذا كنت مدعياً فالدليل, و ان كنت ناقلاً فالصحة" اي اذا كنت تدعي شيئاً فعليك اثباته بالدليل المناسب له سواء كان دليل عقلي او تجريبي او احصائي مرصود, و ان كنت تنقل خبر عن النبي عليه الصلاة و السلام او شئ عن اخبار الغيب او الاسلام فعليك اثبات صحة النقل بتقديم سلسلة الاسانيد و عرض الكلام علي اصول المسلمين العقدية والفقهية و استخدم علوم الحديث في بحثها اما لقبولها او دحضها, هولاء المستشرقون يستخدمون الاساليب الادبية و تحليل النصوص غيرها التي استخدموها في دراسة الاناجيل ثم يجمعونها مع شذرات من مخطوطات مشكوك فيها و يفترضون قصة او رواية ثم ينسجون احداث خيالية و بناء حبكة قصصية و تغليفها بلغة البحث العلمي للتلبيس علي عقول الناس, و من اراد فهم نصوص الاسلام فعليه دراسة و استخدام علوم اصول الفقه و الدين و من اراد دراسة صحة مصادر الاسلام فعليه دراسة علوم الحديث, وغير ذلك من الاساليب فهي علوم زائفة لا طائل منها

    • @banipal1545
      @banipal1545 6 місяців тому +2

      المستشرقين لهم جهود علميا حثيثة وهي من القوة بمكان، الإسلاميين تدفعهم عاطفتهم الدينية لرفض اي بحث علمي جاد لا يكرر المروي التقليدية نفسها.

  • @attila0073
    @attila0073 Рік тому +2

    i am a muslim
    that Dr nead to learn arabic first

    • @sbaj24
      @sbaj24 Рік тому

      Let the orientalists and the zionists enjoy each other.

  • @tc7500
    @tc7500 Рік тому +3

    Clearly after the second gentlemen asked the question about a topic that he DID NOT EVEN mentioned in his entire nonsensical speech and the question was regarding The very well known FACT that the early Inscriptions in the Dome of the Rock were about Jesus the Messiah….. he got obviously NERVOUS and Immediately put his hands in his pockets as a defensive mechanism of being CAUGHT on his deception and Lying by OMISSION of such important fact!

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому +1

      No one asked that question...Are u demented ?

    • @Klopp2543
      @Klopp2543 Рік тому +1

      Jesus is the Messiah too in Islam. Where was he wrong?

    • @tc7500
      @tc7500 Рік тому

      @@Klopp2543
      Read my statement again!

  • @madgergillard2652
    @madgergillard2652 2 роки тому +5

    When he says prophet he is lying. He is translating and doing the translation in a dubious manner.

    • @paulthomas281
      @paulthomas281 Рік тому +1

      @Madger Gillard
      That is correct. He should just use a proper name. He wouldn't say "Prophet" Moses for instance.

    • @artf2651
      @artf2651 Рік тому

      Where ?!
      Nabiy is prophet, and is on the carvings, some are quite clear actually like this one 36:20

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 2 роки тому

    Wow, very exciting to see this series of lectures made available on your channel. Thanks for making this available to the public.
    Also what is meant by enclose and open ayns? I imagine it is a way of dating inscriptions based on how they write the ع?

  • @paulbaysa9133
    @paulbaysa9133 2 роки тому +5

    it appears that the prophet muhammad appears & disappeared not according to the will of God but by the will and machinations of men.

    • @celestialknight2339
      @celestialknight2339 Рік тому +2

      That’s why the ultimate source of Islamic truth is the Qur’an-not the Hadith or any other outside source. God’s word holds the highest authority above all.

    • @KaijuOfTheOpera
      @KaijuOfTheOpera Рік тому

      @@celestialknight2339 Christians say the same thing.

    • @celestialknight2339
      @celestialknight2339 Рік тому +4

      @@KaijuOfTheOpera Yes, and we actually don’t deny that the Bible originally came from God. But just that it was eventually tampered with over time (as historical study itself has even now clearly revealed), and people added to it the words of mere men to the words of Jesus Christ, who weren’t actually inspired. So for us the Bible is indeed one of God’s revelations; but in its current form, it is mixed both with the words of God as well as the words of men. That’s why the Qur’an-which we know is preserved-in fact calls itself the “Furqān” (‘The Criteria/Standard’) since it’s the “litmus test” by which we judge anything else as being truth versus false, and right versus wrong. And the Qur’an can be shown to be God’s word, because of all its miraculous features that permeate its very structure, content, and impact (not the least of which is the fact that it is so easy memorized completely word-for-word by millions of people, including countless children-who don’t even speak the Arabic language!) Yet its logical teachings and miraculous aspects are sufficient for us to be convinced that it is in fact the word of the Creator, as it explicitly claims.
      So again-we believe in God, and in what was revealed us, but also whatever was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes; and also in that which was given to Moses and Jesus, and to ALL the prophets from their Lord. We do not discriminate between any one of them-and to Him (God) we surrender ourselves in complete devotion.
      Peace.

    • @anaskpalmalaki8804
      @anaskpalmalaki8804 Рік тому

      tell me more what do you mean of this?

    • @nuri_sunnah
      @nuri_sunnah 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@celestialknight2339Please. Do not resort to faith-based argumentation within the context of an academic disagreement; that makes us (Muslims) look dumb as hell. It literally makes it seem that we claim to believe in God, yet have not me granted the mental capacities to challenge others on strictly academic grounds. I think that's a rather unfortunate way for the rest of the word to see the community of Muhammad; and Allah knows best.