Why Is This VTuber Bullet Heaven So Good?! - Holocure
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2022
- This is a completely free, unofficial fangame featuring the vtuber talents of Hololive, with gameplay that is heavily inspired by Vampire Survivors and Magic Survival. Collect powerful weapons and items and experiment with all kinds of builds to create the ultimate character! Will you be able to defeat the endless waves of enemies, and reach the top rankings?
Get Holocure on itch.io: kay-yu.itch.io/holocure
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Outro Music: Braincooler - Mega Man X Chill Penguin Stage Remix By Rozovian - ocremix.org/remix/OCR01916
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My Twitter: / wanderbots - Ігри
And the most impressive thing is that its a fangame, the dev has never received a cent for the game and yet they managed to make one of the best games on the genre.
I'm too jaded now to think a product isn't harvesting some form of data from me.
People do pay the dev, but it's more for respect than to buy the game.
The dev can't charge for the game, since it's a fan-game.
@@ringoreddo308 people don't pay the dev for the game in any way.
@@dirzz That's what I said.
@@ringoreddo308 Dev said that he won't recieve any form of money(pay, donate, ads etc. and yes he can recieve donate from this, and won't get in trouble) he just choose not to because it will take away his passion for the game and lost interest because it will feel like a job. And he make enough money from his actual job anyway
For anyone who has never seen this game before: each character has 3 unique skills 1 unique special and 1 unique weapon, so they all feel completely different, this is roughly 1/8th of the planned characters. If you dont get the references it detracts nothing from the game, just discovering the collabs becomes less intuitive, but you can just look those up. There are currently 3 stages, stage 2 has a lot of obstacles and stage 3 is the hard mode of stage 1 with more aggressive enemy attack patterns and hazards.
Yeah, the actual character uniqueness factor is IMO one of the game's biggest strengths.
@@gamerbear84 For sure, and watching this actually highlights one of the bigger weaknesses I think with HoloCure's first impressions. It's got a lot going on that differentiates it from Vampire Survivors (unique character weapons/skills, specials, things like stat ups that don't take a spot in your itemization, etc.) but none of that is apparent at first glance. It comes off feeling very much like a reskin until you give it enough time to show all its differences, and for someone like Wander who's played a ton of the genre already, that can be a tall request.
Yes, the girl with the clock-hand attack is sick and it feels so different to play
@@lunarwhaler4831 For some who has played the genre a lot. It's even weirder he doesn't spot mechanics faster. Every survivor has its own mechanical goals for gameplay and builds. Its actually few that are exact clones
Most importantly you can pet the dog
As much as this type of game fits your channel's content, I did not actually expect to see you cover this, but man, was it entertaining even on a "dad tries to understand this thing they know nothing about" level.
Ah also as for the same issue it has with Vampire Survivors that gets rectified in later stages. The game's solution to the VS problem is enemy difficulty and mechanic ramp up. Stage 1 is basically the relaxed Tutorial, Stage 2 introduces Bullet Hell elements, and Stage 3 ramps up the Bullet Hell and introduces funny enough MMO Raid Boss Mechanics.
Yes i love this era of people playing this without a clue of vtubers
Very nice
It’s great.
I have to wonder about how A "Wanderbot V-Tuber" Avatar would play out. Looking like a head bobbing around like a character out of Red Vs Blue? For some reasons, it seems like a Crazy idea, but I like it.
Something like Zentreya, maybe, but without a removable helmet
A PNGtuber avatar would also work
@@H2OHydraulic I think he already kind of does that on the prime channel. Not the main focus of his content though.
21:23 "I don't think we're going to find any evolutions," he says right as the collab anvil spawns.
I do think he might have really enjoyed the stage 1 hard mode, but that might have been a lot to ask him to play until.
@@faizalf119 i agree
@@faizalf119 Yeah, or like how he reacted to Fubuzilla. Like, it's just a mascot, it just felt like acting weirded out just for the sake of it.
@@faizalf119 Its clear he just had kind of a bad set of experiences with super fans of the medium, back in the day in america most people who were into anime were extremely standoff-ish and socially awkward leading to all sorts of bizarre interactions and interests that dont mesh well with normal people, now that its been so normalized to enjoy anime fans are more normal and far less cringe about the whole situation unless you delve too deep in some circles.
So why is there a Hololive Vampire Survivors game you're asking?
Well on one end the Hololive people are amazing and entertaining in many many way and this game funnel back the love.
If you want examples, the fans will be happy to flood you with them. :P
On the other end, Hololive streamed Vampire Survivors. Not just the usual suspect like the bunny girl Pekora, the miko Miko and Mel the vampire girl
but also about everyone like Botan the FPS gog gamer lion ans Suisei the sociopathic comet Tetris godess.
I don't really know how it happened in the first place but if you watched Hololive then, you just saw Vampire Survivors. It was that widespread.
About the giant fox monster, that's Fubura/Fubuzilla, the gozilla-like monster form of Hololive member Fubuki
as it appeared in the madness known as Holo Graffiti episode : "How to Invoke a Kaiju".
About the pillow, the person on it is Yagoo, CEO of Hololive. He is known as "Best girl (of Hololive)" partly due to have lot of goodwill as the person behind Hololive
and also because of a meme/gentlemen agreement among the fans to give him that title because other wise they would fight each other for who is the best girl.
Hence why he's on the pillow.
its why i love 20mins to midnight -- yes it has endless but 20 mins is the sweet spot for getting powerful and wrecking face without it getting too samey
Yea even if you take the hololive out of it, you'll be lost for the references obviously, but the gameplay is just really solid at its core. They've done a really good job with this.
This has quickly become one of my favorite games, and basically introduced me to Hololive, but I understand it's not for all.
3:08 Yeah, that sounds like the "gatekeep-y" era of v-tubing; a whole bunch of people shaming others for trying out the thing/trend, even if there were plenty of other people were completely chill, had more reasonable critiques, or just don't give a shit.
But that's just people on the internet. Regardless of their interests in anything considered crazy popular or "weird" by the majority, they feel entitled to something that goes at odds with both supporters and detractors.
I think that giving a game that refers to a certain franchise/fandom to someone who is not a part of that fandom is a good way to determine the game's own merits, instead of its broadly-defined fanservice.
Agreed. Though I would say that chances are, people won’t be rating it al that low since beyond how it is as a game, it’s also a completely free passion project. It’s unlikely that anyone would be lowering their rating of the game and saying stuff like “It’s fine but I wouldn’t pay X amount for it”
You don't understand, really?
Building a fanbase is just youtube 101, you yourself associate yourself with a group of content creators all with their own "characters", "lore" and inside jokes/knowledge all going as far as having representation of it all in games like revita. Having a vamp survivor type of game in that flavor is hardly far off.
while unlikely, seeing a full/continuing series on this would be cool as a control for a non-Vtuber perspective of the game
If you want a non vtuber perspective on this game may I recommend Angory Tom he played a decent chunk of this game while not knowing much about vtubers
It definitely felt like he was a bit stuck on the whole ‘haha anime girl’ aspect instead of just thinking of them as any other streamer
Also very sorry you had to deal with vtuber gatekeeping like that. A lot of big name streamers were just lazily getting models at the time with no passion or respect for the medium so it made the community very defensive against other creators becoming vtubers. It wasn’t a great look on the fans
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but the feeling I got is that his opinion was rather based on the disgusting fanatics on his discord rather than the "haha anime girls", considering he was planning to become a vtuber himself.
If it was so bad that he had to ban the topic, it probably left a bad impression on Hololive, sadly another case of crazy fanatics (I refuse to call them fans) destroying something they should love instead.
>gatekeeping bad
spoken like someone who should be gatekept
It's ridiculously good, especially since it's completely free.
The reason why there's so many bullet heaven game is because of casual people like me. Using your words, I simply don't give a shit about games like Vampire Survivors and Magic Survival. Only when Vtubers I know are involved, I picked up and played it and got introduced to the genre.
Variety expands the audience.
Video title: "Why is this VTuber bullet heaven so good?" Wander in video: "Charming bullet heaven, but falls a bit flat in comparison to some of my favorites." The standards for "so good" are getting kind of low, eh? XD
I do think you’d enjoy the harder levels. They really require a lot more skill, build synergy, and well timed characters ultimates. They also become a lot more bullet hell than heaven.
He played it! I love it so much, yeah i did get into it cause of vtubers, but i kept playing it cause of how fun it was! and free...
Aw man, I'm sorry you got turned off of vtubers, it's really a shame that people decided to be all gatekeepy about it. Wish you had ignored them, I'd love to see your model.
More of people tend to get too excited and flood you with large amount of info all at once, that you get overwhelmed by it (when you otherwise don't care or is not interested), rather than witholding information to prevent you passage. Some fans may also incessantly nag you to play the game or check out a clip or stream (regardless of your interest).
Honestly speaking, it's almost like reverse gatekeeping, where instead of preventing people from knowing more about a fandom for the sake of exclusivity, they try to urge people into joining the fandom, sometimes a bit too zealously.
Yes this fucking sucks so bad I hate when people have this reaction because when everyone else does it's fine but when someone who doesn't know anything does it or when someone famous from twitch does it it's a fucking problem.......
3:07 He starts talking about it.
@@spearsage 3:27 he said the comments were "vehemently don't you dare" style.
Fun fact the person who made this is one of the animators who worked on Rivercity Girls as well as a decent number of notable animes such as Sword Art Online, Mushoku Tensei and the Castlevania Neflix anime. Also this game is always going to be free as he works on it in his free time so thats nice. (Also if ya ever do play more/again i would totally watch more)
I guess with people that has played a dozen of these, Holocure wouldn't really stick for a one time thing.
A clear strong point is the many unique characters, but a one time playthrough can't really highlight them.
Not only that, the first stage doesn't offer any uniqueness compared to the other survivors-like games. It isn't even hard for an experienced player, the 19 minute damage check is the only real problem since a new player wouldn't know about the collab upgrade.
idk how i feel about this episode, seems to be tethering the line between "disgruntled due to past experience" and "disrespect toward a niche that just happens to not be yours"
i get how some part of it will seem weird to an outsider (don't worry, i also find some of it weird too), but i do have to say, at least how it sounds to me, there is a lot of "look at these stupid idiot who likes a thing i don't like" in this video, and it turned out to be an uncomfortable experience for both of us
quite ironic that you talked about how if you like something on the internet, there will always be someone who hates your existence, and you appear to be partaking in that very activity in this very video.
Well, I thought he had a pretty decent perspective on the game. He may have had some strange experiences with vtuber fans, but he looks at the game as what it is and takes info on what he could understand.
There are much worse reactions to vtubers that you could see, but I'd say he was pretty open for this video. I wouldn't call any of this disrespect, I just don't see it. At no point does he hate on it, It's just his thoughts as someone not invested in vtubers, and I think that's OK.
Though, I would like to hear what you thoughts are on this video.
I don't really think he ever went that far. Just a, 'I can't relate and I probably don't like the genre very much. But otherwise charming fan game.' I will say it's undersold on that aspect. It's an excellent fan game.
This is something I never expected to see Wander play XD. As someone who likes both contents, I am pleasantly surprised.
Hololive is one of the big 2 Vtuber groups in the industry. Your probably more familiar with Vtubers like Ironmouse and other Vshojo members or indies on Twitch so basically the gist of things is that Hololive is one of the major professional Vtuber companies and while they stream they also focus on other things like original music, animations, and recently started looking towards making their own games. Hololive leans more into the fictional character aspect of Vtubers compared to everyone else.
There is an in-game list outlining what collabs are possible.
When in a stage, just hit 'Esc', and you will have an option to pick 'Collabs', which lists available weapon Collabs (the equivalent of VS' evolutions).
Depending on whether or not you've found or unlocked a given base weapon, some combos may not show up yet, but it should list all the currently available options for you.
There's also a wiki that lists items and collabs. The game has a *ton* of content, and you've only just scratched the surface. Would love to see another stream on it in the future with your verdict once you've had more time with the characters and mechanics.
Cool to see you try this game even if the theme wasn't your thing. It's a really good game, and the uniqueness of each character between the skills, ultimate abilities, and starting weapon is great. I think it differentiates itself from vampire survivors from that and the strafing.
I'd say visit the shop and unlock the special abilities, and give another run a shot. Each character plays pretty differently so you should have enough unique experiences to maybe make another few videos if you want.
i know you said you wouldn't play this game past one video but i'll still recommend playing the game some more with other characters it gets pretty fun
Unlocking the special makes each character more unique and more active. It's an aspect that I'm not sure if it's a good idea for it to have to be purchased in the shop because it's so important.
I think it's actually fine since you can unlock it literally after playing your first game since avg. Payout without spending on upgrades is like 1000-1200 coins
Your lost for not continuing this game. It is good as a stand alone game.
This is a really great free game with tons of good Hololive references.
I’m a fan from the holo community and really enjoyed your video and perspective, and thoughts of games like vampire survivor/bullet heavens! I find that when one is deep in a certain community, it can make a bit of a bubble so it’s great to see outside of it. Enjoy your pizza!
Still can't believe that this game is free.
It's a fan game. If it is, then Hololive's company Cover Corp. Will buy the game and the codes
It would be under GM license
HoloCure is ridiculously good.
For anyone who is interested in playing this the most effectively, here a small guide:
On every character you max out first their signature weapon and skills in order to get these out of the level up shop. This will increase the chances to find the weapons and equipments you actually want.
Ideally next you want to get equipments and the most important ones are the studying glasses and halu.
Especially early you want the most gold effective to unlock further upgrades and all characters. So you want to max out Halu and Studying Glasses as early as you currently can. With higher g rank beating halu 5 becomes more likely. Due to the increased monster spawns you will gain more exp and gold.
Later you will be able to finish collab after collab.
In stage 1 you actually don't need any defensive items, they are only needed to clear the latter part of stage 3. So all you want is an item like the Face Mask which boosts your damage and takes no upgrades, which again helps your strategy to fish for your collab items later on.
So which upgrades are the most effective ones? Ofc the Gold Gain and the Rerolls, because they will allow consistency going further into HoloCure.
I can play stage 1 and force Halu 5 with exactly the collabs I want EVERY SINGLE TIME. I can't guarantee tho getting Halu as early as possible always.
Man this was conflicting to watch. Appreciate you trying the game out and enjoyed listening to your criticisms of the game genre, but it's a pity with all the other stuff. Hope you're able to enjoy what you do with future endeavors.
MiComet = Elite Lava Bucket + Psycho Axe
Elite Cooking = Spider Cooking+ ELB
Breathe-In-Type Asacoco = Plugin Type Asacoco + Holobomb
That's what I know of
I would suggest to give it a try until stage 2 because with different mechanics from enemies and different enemies, you start having a lot more fun as the enemies are more engaging. Stage3 which is stage 1 on hard mode has a lot more engaging enemies and it's really fun.
It doesn't have anything to do inherently with UA-cam, or Vtubers, or Sonic, or Homestuck, or My Little Pony, or Rick and Morty, or anything. It's people. People in general suck and are selfish and hateful. That's all there is to it.
There is such a thing as selective pressures
one of the key differences between this game and VS is that every character has a unique starting weapon (that only they can use) and 3 unique skills that heavily affect the play style of that character. This coupled with the huge roster of characters makes for more unique builds and a lot more variety in how you play the game than with VS.
I love his confused reaction to fubuzilla. xD
A bullet heaven with a legit story to it, sounds like an interesting concept.
"i don't know who hololive is"
it's huge and DEEP rabbit hole.. just know a lot of people have fallen in it and have had a VERY hard time getting out.. it's just that good...
Thank you for playing wanderbot
Thanks for playing Holocure! It's the sort of game that gets more fun as you unlock more stuff, so a second or third run would definitely be worth it. I recommend Calliope, just because her Death skill kills enemies in kind of a domino effect, very satisfying to watch.
i love Kay Yu's art so when i heard that she made a hololive bullet hell..i fell in love with it
its on steam now, might check it out again
the video being referenced by the enemies that start showing up at the 14 minute mark:
ua-cam.com/video/aetXqd9B8WE/v-deo.html
(it is animated by the same person who made the game)
ah shit, wander stepped one foot into the rabbit hole.
don't fall in wander. there is no getting out.
you're looking at a victim. please send help
"like the whip, but less problematic"
Holy molly this dude...
Kinda refreshing to see an outsider perspective on this game since all I have heard from this is mostly within fandom
Magic survival on the mobile stores is a really good Bullet Heaven game, I highly recommend it.
I do kinda want to see the vtuber model you have...
This was a pretty interesting video to watch. Watching a person that doesn't know anything about vtubers play a game made a vtuber fan is pretty interesting.
What's amazing about the creation of this game is that the developers refuse to accept money for it. It's a passion project and if they started receiving donations it would become a job for them which they did not want. (It's not like they need the money anyway since the people making this game are successful animators and music composers)
Mark my words, Wanderbot WILL fall into the rabbit hole
Wanderbot is more cultured than expected
the game really starts when you get super abilities
Holocure is one of those games I downloaded for the memes but then actually kept on my computer.
Also, as a vtuber fan, gotta say I loved the "dad trying to understand son's weird games" energy this had.
Oh no... Wander stumbled the vtuber rabbit hole
I know you will probably never play this again. But it sounded like you were bored because it was too easy. Stage 2 is much more active and I think you would enjoy it.
I'd recommend trying stage 2 aswell as it massively increase in difficulty
3:21
This is the first time I've been to this channel so I thought that character on the thumbnail was there because you use it as a model.
If you show that model you took pride in, it will at least weed out the people who aren't here for you. While the stigma around vtubers is strong, the part of this community that is not just here for normie commentary will be here to support you. Don't let others push their expectations on you.
"i am going to regret playing this" how right was this man
It is such a shame that you get any sort of hate and the attention of weirdos in your community, cause the majority of the Vtuber Community is pretty chill and just wants to see others succeed and take interest in vtubers.
I love how the CEO yagoo is such a meme he's a got a bust in the center there at the start and a body pillow item.
Idk, the people who are vehemently against vtubers might just be really bad about expressing how tired they are of seeing a thing they're not into being everywhere, but that happens with anything and everything. Anyway, it feels weird to say this, but this is the most I've seen a run of this game look like Vampire Survivors. Well, up until where you unlocked the MiComet lmao
Hope you enjoyed your pizza!
Wanderbot vtuber let's go?!
have you played "bullet heaven" by matt rozak? it's more a touhou bullet hell game, but the name is on point for this video at least
"There are some uncomfortable items"
SWEATS AND LOOKS AT COCO
Im assuming you have chat while playing this so ill skip the tips and advices since its better for realtime q&a about the game with chat.
With that being said, Im totally down for more holocure gameplay videos! 👍
22:19 MiComet collab
Not the crossover I expected.
Lmao, wasn't expecting to see this show up here.
try stage 2 its imensly harder
wander imma need u to tell me how you're aiming while moving
I forget if I was using KB+M or Controller, but one of those lets you aim & move simultaneously.
Controller lets you twinstick for aiming
I would like to add my voice into the social pressure to make you play some more and try out the other characters 😊
Brotato has a lot of choices and mechanical combos. Everything (or almost everything) you get takes away from your character, so you are way more involved in choices. Between the proximity triggers and cooldowns for different weapons, Brotato keeps you more focused in the actual game. That's why it feels a bit better to play.
I will say this. The level he was playing is more or less baby mode of the game. Difficulty due to traps ramps majorly in level 2 and the mid and final bosses are like those you would see in a bullet hell. And parts of level 3 are minutes of constant trap avoidance. Also most of the unlocked items have disadvantages making decisions harder if it should be taken. The games deeper than this one off play shows.
@@kagato3 I was talking more in general, since he compared Vampire to Brotato and mentioned Brotato engaged him more. Seeing this one playthrough and seeing you get to aim a bit, this is already better than Vampire.
What I eventually disliked about Vampire (and this seem to do the same to a lesser extent) it's that it's a lot of lights and sounds for just random effects. Random attacks, random loot, huge boxes that give you a lightshow before giving you the money. It's too much effort wasted on looks.
@@malcomchase9777 You can skip the lightshow in Holocure.
@@malcomchase9777 1) if you use a dual stick then the right stick can be used to aim barring weapon limitations.
2) Something Wander does not bring up is the is a 100% free passion project fan game created by a professional an animator. so of course he would be focused on looks
@@kagato3 I'm not saying it's a bad game. I'm go he said about enjoying Brotato more than Survivors now.
And what does being the passion project of an animator change? If it's focused on looks, it's focused on looks.
Yooo! HoloCure is amazing!
Surprised you didn't go BL Book to combine with Axes after you were told about it. xD
This is the first time I've heard of Bullet Heaven. Can I ask the what's the difference between that, and Bullet Hells?
Bullet Hell = Centered around dodging increasingly elaborate bullet patterns while occasionally fireing on enemies when you get a brief window (e.g. Touhou)
Bullet Heaven = Centered around creating the increasingly elaborate bullet pattern while enemies rush you zombie-style (e.g. Vampire Survivors, Horocure)
Ngl, wished I didn't have a 12 year old craptop. I really want to play this game. But it actually overheats trying to play card games and DS games. This would probably set it ablaze.
As for your situation, I mean I am new here but if you're still interested in a model don't let people shit on your dreams man. The whole concept has antis set around it unfortunately. I myself was sceptical about it until I actually watched one, then a couple and realized "It's literally normal people who 9/10 times just like their privacy, behind a character that actually gives them expression to an audience.". It wasn't really weird once I actually understood it. It's actually pretty cool in all reality. I think after seeing nothing changing about you post model, a lot of the people against it would probably come around to it.
If you first tried playing it before the last big update, you might want to try again because they improved the performance issues it had before.
wonder i love you and vtuber i will gladly whatch another video in this
Wanders instant choice of the tentacle character made me laugh out loud
Wander you might like returnal it's a rougelike with time loop elements and a story
Did a whole series on it back when I used to do those!
my favorite new hobby is people who know NOTHING about vtubers trying this game out
the game just got a huge update btw, hope you check it out!
I'm away for the weekend, so I'll get to it next week.
Fyi for me the best dps collab is mi comet. Which is lava bucket.and axe
The tail... it looks like a buttplug. D:
thats because it is... well to be more precise asacoco is a type of fictional drug created by the famous Vtuber Kiryu Coco and that is the "Plug Type Asacoco" where the drug is injected the way you think it would be lol again its fictional though
I like this game
Carbs are pretty bad. I didn't realize it until I stopped eating them completely. I went from 300 pounds to 150 in a very short amount of time.
I'd suggest you play on the harder levels if you believe the first one is boring.
WELCOME TO THE RABBIT HOLE
ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US
its really confuse me that holocure a FREE fan made game given its polish and amount of content it had...
Wanderbot: "I regret playing this."
Also Wander: "This is actually good."
Ngl, I never expect that you'll be playing this game since this is actually a Fan-made game and not actually your casual Indie devs.
Banger Ost tho
Anyone else think this music fucking slaps?
Yooo a Wonderbot VTuber model would be sick! Idk why anyone would hate it because it's basically a face cam that doesn't show your real face.