These are the types of interviews that got me into JR. An extremely knowledgeable, well spoken expert talking about something they are passionate about.
My sister was born deaf. She’s had a vastly different life than everyone else I know. My family is very musical, it’s weird knowing she can’t hear anything we play. She struggles with maintaining any relationships because people simply can’t relate to her and vice versa. People were absolutely evil to her in high school and taunted her on early Facebook, telling her to kill herself. Treat your fellow humans kindly, friends.
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i had many mentors all of them were wise . what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later” “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.” -teleportdinero i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
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@@jaeslow6347 I met a deaf coworker when I worked at a warehouse, I learned enough to understand and he signed one day that none of his family knew sign and his parents thought he was dumb. So not hard to believe when you understand how people treat them
He's right about the thinking process with language. After I took 4 ASL classes in college, I had a conversation with a deaf person before our class started one day, and one thing I asked her was: When you think to your self, what do you see? I told her I hear my voice talking to me. She said she envisions herself signing, more specifically her torso and head region signing to herself. This episode blew me away when he talked about the Deaf not have any language at one point and how they would have to handle thinking to themselves. Wow.
my girlfriend is also completely deaf since childhood, and I asked her the exact same question, and she also envisions words as signs. She truly has a somewhat vague concept of sound, in general, but I have been trying to explain it to her physically how it is and what it seems like. Music is a big deal to me and I like to share it with her in the ways I can.
I know I like the old Joe, or he would just have random people with wonderful stories that you would never think that they would have…. Like one time I got hit by a train literally on foot…. True story.
@@Chef-vg4pu I read " Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History Book by S. C. Gwynne " because the podcast was so good.
Man this is the best clip I've seen in a while. I learned a TON in 15 minutes that I have somehow never heard in my entire life! Well done, and what a fantastic guy to interview!
I was thinking the same thing….. and my daughter is fluent in sign language. She needs to take a second language so she’s picked sign….. I gotta go talk to her!
Came here to say exact same. Learned so much. Had no idea it's a completely separate language the way he explained it was fascinating. Absolutely fascinating information to learn about
same. picture this.. its 11am in Australia, now i have to lock my doors for the next 2.5hrs and watch the Spotify interview. not what i had planned for today
Just go to another country by yourself and not know the language. You'll get a sense of what deaf people go through. It's not oppression. It's complicated.
I am a CODA (Child of deaf adults), put an immigrant spin on that and that is my life. I understand this guest a hundred percent and agree totally about what he is saying. ❤
The pastor of my church adopted a deaf boy. The whole family learned sign language. His wife signs all events their son attends. I have tremendous respect for her ability to translate so fast. It’s not easy work.
My brother was born profoundly deaf and I remember being told by one of his teachers at the Maryland School for the Deaf that our family was unique because we all knew how to sign. Most of the children went home to families where they could not communicate with anyone. That was 40 years ago and one hopes the ASL ability of hearing family members has changed significantly.
God bless that family I read your post & all i thought of was how Jesus would heal the deaf & make the blind see, the lame walk, & the dead to rise what a life altering experience He gave em! Jesus is my Lord & my Savior King of Kings!
I used to know fluent sign language my neighbors across the street had three kids the parents were deaf but the kids weren't and they taught me sign language also I lived in council bluffs Iowa and we had Iowa School for the deaf❤❤❤
@@menwithven8114 Yes, we watched the same video. Not sure why you would think that a parent’s “disability” would translate to a child’s passion. Plenty of kids end up resentful instead.
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i had many mentors all of them were wise . what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later” “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.” -teleportdinero i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
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I had a design firm and hired 2 deaf employees. Every Friday, I stopped work and they would teach the rest of us ASL. My whole office was fluent. One of them was born deaf, the other lost his hearing as a young child. The one that lost his as a child was a bull rider, would go dancing, heavily engaged in society. The other one..I asked him if he could get implants if he would get them and he said, no. Fascinating experience and people. Edit: I did not realize so many had reacted to my comment! So, of course they were paid and they were very happy, productive and highly competent employees. We had a positive, healthy workforce. No client issues with deadlines..that's just a ridiculous comment because anyone working in a deadline oriented business knows how to schedule. I completely appreciate the positive feedback! ❤️
Yall did a great thing! In middle school we had only one single deaf student who (with her interpreter) taught every single class once a month, even the students who didn’t have classes with her. While relatively basic, I’m forever grateful for being shown how to communicate with people whose first language *is* ASL
True story. I grew up driving by the first deaf school in America. We'd see it every time we'd get on the highway and as a child, it was just curious. Fast forward years and years and one of my kids was born with a condition that made her deaf before she would normally start picking up speech...only miles from that place. We moved before she would start her education, but landed in Cobb County, Ga., which is one of only a couple of counties in the country that had a DHH program in the public school system. My daughter is now dean's list in her second year of college, double lettered in orchestra in high school and was a competition-level dancer throughout her life.
@@dehso Hey, there is a lot of unsolicited advice I can tell you as a someone whose been in the field for 14 years. But if you are serious, the moment you pass the EIPA, take the RID/NIC immediately. Odds are you will pass it first try if you manage to get past the EIPA. That one came as a surprise to a lot of the newbies in my department, so I figure they aren't telling you guys in the ITPs about this.
I grew up with deaf grandparents in Australia. I love them so much. Would have been so hard growing up in this world. But they raised three kids, worked hard and taught me so much.
There were many moments in deaf history over the past 100 years that led to the reinstatement of a deaf education. What he is referring to in the 70s is when my grandfather Willard Madsen traveled the world giving lectures to teach the education program that allowed a hearing teacher to educate a deaf person. A program he created as a professor at Galludet University in Maryland. He also wrote "You Have To be Deaf To Understand " and the textbooks used to learn ASL.
My dad is an ASL interpreter for a government funded video relay service called Sorenson. Basically it’s the original FaceTime so that deaf people all over the US can take phone calls like any average American. He’s shared many scenarios he’s interpreted for. Like this guy mentioned, murder trials, informing family members of death, breaks up. you name it, he’s interpreted it. The craziest part about all of it, is my dad lost all fingers on his left hand, besides his thumb at 18, I have never understood how the deaf community understands what he’s saying. (I never learned ASL besides the alphabet and cuss words despite growing up around it) They always ask if he’s a CODA (Child Of a Deaf Adult) which blows my mind when I really think about it, which isn’t often, cos he only has 6 fingers in total, yet still communicates with the deaf flawlessly. Truly is a beautiful language
I took ASL in college and I will say that getting by with only one hand makes sense to me. Even the fundamentals like the entire alphabet and counting is all done with one hand. Atleast for ASL. But for example BSL (British Sign Language) uses two hands when counting.
RID's code of ethics states that interpreters must keep details of assignments private. Interpreters must respect Deaf folks and keep all information confidential. Imagine if your personal business was being talked about
@@rralbq there is no personal information shared. He’s not giving me details or giving me word for word playbacks of the conversations. When I say story’s I’m literally getting as much info as I just gave you. And it’s not right after his work day. I’ll ask if he’s ever interpreted X Y or Z and he’ll state “yes” and that’s it. Trust me I’ve tried to get stories but he is very professional about his work. Nice try, trying to over assume though.
Wow, this was an awesome episode. I am one of 5 CODAs (Children of Deaf Adults) and we are all hearing. Both of my parents were born deaf though, my mom got it genetically and my dad became deaf while he was in the womb due to German Measles. So the way they both were raised was very different. My mom already had two older siblings that were deaf as well so the whole family learned ASL (as best they could) and my grandma and aunts would interpret for my mom while she was in school, until she was able to have an interpreter provided to her by the public school. My mom wanted to be in public school because the Deaf Institutions at the time were not challenging the Deaf at all. They only cared about basic education for the Deaf and there werent any accelerated programs. So my mom insisted on going to public school so she could learn as much as she could, just like all the other hearing kids, and she did very well, despite problems with interpreters and being the only Deaf student. With my dad though, he had a small family and they didn't really know what to do with him, they werent used to deaf people. So they did what most parents did at that time, that had a Deaf child, per the doctor's recommendation, they sent them off to boarding school so they could be taught speech pathology/audiology and basically be forced to learn to talk and be like a hearing person. My dad is able to talk, but not all Deaf can. So it doesnt work for the majority of Deaf. My dad wears a hearing aid, but my mom HATES them so she doesnt. Theres also different levels of deafness. Some people can hear higher tones, but not low tones, and vice versa. Obviously, the ears arent always on the same level, just like our eyes arent. I could go on and on about Deaf culture and the issues my parents face, like hearing people not understanding that Deaf people are (usually) normal people who just cant hear. They are as intelligent and aware as anyone. They can text, use a computer, drive a car, take care of themselves, LEARN AND TEACH, and many many more. Ive gotten ALOT of dumb questions over the years 😂, but its all good because awareness is important. I dont see people getting upset at how little Deaf Awareness there is, but it is getting better, and videos like this are so good for that. The reason i said Deaf people, usually, are just normal people, is because a lot of the time (like with my dad) Deafness is caused by a deformity or disease while in the womb. So it is very common to meet a Deaf person that has a vision impairment/colorblindness, or is completely blind, or has physical or mental limitations. Which is another reason why the Deaf community has been so oppressed for a long time. I knew this was gonna be long, but if you read all this, youre awesome! Im just so happy to see Joe have this guy on the pod so he could spread the history and awareness about Deaf people and how important Sign Language is. If you have any questions for me, lmk!
My dad is Deaf from birth and my mom was hard of hearing. The stories I've been told from their childhoods are crazy. So happy to have sign language be my first language.
When rogan has intellectual individuals on it makes my day. The comedians are good but you cannot beat a well put together, smart passionate conversation.
I worked at a restaurant in my 20s and we hired a deaf guy as a dishwasher. He did a really good job of communicating with the rest of the staff with just basic general gestures and facial expressions. After a couple weeks, I decided to learn the alphabet and some basic phrases and started talking to him, and he taught me a little more every day. A few more people started learning too and we had a little signing community going. It was a lot of fun! That dude was really smart and funny as fuck, and god damn he partied hard lol. Then he went on vacation to Thailand and Vietnam and I never heard from the dude again. Wonder what he's up to from time to time.
Since I am a hearing person I cannot experience what a deaf person does and does not experience. That being said I cannot imagine the loss or not having had any sense from birth and not wanting a medical way of having it. I realize that sometimes it’s better not to hear certain things but I believe that would be a circumstance of exception. Waking up in the morning hearing the birds singing, the wind blowing through the trees, a baby laughing as its mother laughs back… Thanks to this podcast I will never again take my hearing for granted. Thank you both so much! ❤
I’m a hearing person with a kindergarten level of ASL and learning ASL has made me more grateful for my eyesight and comfortable with the idea I could lose my hearing- more likely in old age. We sign to our children, and the idea of losing my ability to see- not too far off since my prescription is pretty bad- and to have to learn Sign by touch scares the hell out of me.
And if you got enough deaf people in one place for a long time they would create their own religion and gods too. Their devil would be hearing and their god would be deaf.
@@justcallmpeter it’s so ignorant to assume people couldn’t make sign language tho. Legit just like the people who used to think the deaf couldn’t think 😂
This was a deeply powerful and enlightening exposition on the trials, tribulations, and struggles that the deaf community has faced over the years. Thank you for sharing such profound insights in your personal journey, it underscores the importance of sign language in empowering and connecting people.
My cousin who was born deaf and as a result of the community aspect married to a deaf woman decided not to have kids on the probability they would not be deaf. They considered the issues and were put off, Then along came mobile phones and the text message or SMS and talk to text, 3 healthy hearing kids later they credit the SMS as the reason they decided they could tackle parenthood it changed their lives so drastically.
@@lilkevin219 it's funny because it isn't true. he put troll intent on Jamie but Jamie only puts sound on when requested to be putting sound on because it gets clips in youtube demonetized for "fair use."
I am a CODA (Children of deaf adults) Both my parents are deaf, my sister, and my grandma. & I’m the only one that can hear. Growing up in this environment, I wouldn’t change a thing. It has taught me so many things that most people wouldn’t even ponder about. Growing up I would have to interpret and help in ways that matured me faster than my peers. Growing up it was hard sometimes cause people wouldn’t really understand the deaf world. I would get made fun of sometimes. Because of the way the “sound” or just the sheer fact they speak with their hands. Or I would be with my dad waiting in line and he would accidentally be in someone’s way, they would say excuse me and obviously my dad couldn’t hear them so he has no idea. So people get frustrated easily because them being deaf is the last thing they’d expect. Stuff like this really aggravated me growing up. And this happened many many times. And when I would say hey he’s deaf. They shut right up and walk away. If you’re reading this. Just next time. Keep in mind that people are deaf. And don’t be ignorant thinking everything is the same with everyone. Another thing, deaf people CAN DO EVERYTHING A HEARING PERSON CAN DO BUT HEAR. Literally. They can drive, they can reproduce, they can do anything we hearing people can do. It’s okay to ask questions but not stupid questions. Thank you. Hopefully this shed some insight into my world. 🤟🏼
I took am a coda and people would ask me the silliest questions like .how does your parents sleep..I would say hanging upside down like vampires..you should have seen their faces... some people just don't get it 😂
My grandfather knew indigenous American “trade talk.” That’s fascinating and yet not surprising it had a role in creating a culture of sign language. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah, I've found that deaf women are very animalistic when it comes to sex. The first time I fell in love with a deaf woman I was 8. I just remember her being so fiery.
ASL Interpreter here! It truly is a privilege to listen to a native speaker tell the tale of the Deaf, and the inception of their culture; as turbulent of a journey as it was/is.
As a fellow child of deaf parents (CODA) and a college professor who teaches Interpretation and Deaf Studies, this guy's comments are straight on. He's a very good storyteller who connects to what people know and understand and expands on it. It's such a gift to get this information out to the general public. There's more to the story now. Research on Signed languages has exploded, and there are more than 150 known signed languages in the world and that research has helped us understand so much about linguistic universals and what is shared between spoken and signed languages.
Joe's always been really interested in language (ancient languages, other scripts, etc.) and I've always wished he would have a professor of linguistics on the show some time, I think he'd really enjoy learning more.
I think Steven Pinker was close. I think he’s a cognitive scientist who focused on linguistics and language acquisition. Don’t really remember his JRE episode but I think it was more focused on his book which was something like a hopeful take.
@@brah629 yep agreed, pinker was on but didn't get into the linguistic weeds with Joe. I think we need a linguist on who can answer Joe's curiosity around ancient languages, cryptolinguistics, historical linguistics, and stuff like that-- Joe always has good questions but nobody around has the answers (minus this video)
Finally, a CODA with a platform who has such a rich and full knowledge of history to share. I literally teach this history at a University but could not have put it as eloquently as Kasher did here.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f I am a teacher, and the subject I teach involves exactly the subject Kasher talked about, meaning that I literally - yes, actually literally - teach this at school. Take a good long look in the mirror, because you seem to be fine with being a terrible negative force stemming from trivial things that you somehow also happen to be in the wrong about.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f like honestly i get the hate for the word and how overused it is as an adjective but cmon dude. at least point out when its actually used incorrectly.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f Literally, the least worthwhile people in society are grammar Nazis who make errors when trying to police others...you incorrectly posted "it's" (it is) where 'its' belonged.
An ex of mine had a deaf sister, so I saw a lot of sign language being used (picked up a tiny bit) and we once went to see a BLIND AND DEAF woman speak at our school. She was born deaf and lost her eyesight as well later on due to a genetic conditon. She AMAZINGLY earned a PhD and really the only way she could communicate was palm writing (so sign language where you use your finger on someone elses hand). It was amazing honestly.
I watched the whole clip w/ no audio and CC. Even though the print size was hard to read, I realized how important it is to see the expressions and movements of the people communicating! Hopefully technology will start to break down barriers and everyone will live together as who they are, as opposed to Which Identity Box the system has categorized into people.
Thank you for the closed captioning & transcript ❤ I’ve been hard-of-hearing all my life and with CC and or the transcript it helps me understand what is being communicated.
I started working in a grocery store when I was 16. I started seeing a deaf girl around my age that would come into the store. She was from the orphanage nearby (I think called a children’s home by then). She’d come in to get one or two things - a soda or a candy bar. She’d always come through my line at the checkout. The first time I didn’t know that she was deaf. I said hello to her and she just smiled. Later she’d wave to me when she came in. Always come over to see me. She started saying a few words, but seemed self-conscience about it - probably because she couldn’t hear herself. She was beautiful. I wanted to ask her out but either didn’t know how to go about it or was just a goofy teen kid that was afraid to ask. It would have been interesting to have gotten to know her better and learn her language.
Both of my parents are deaf! Known ASL all my life and now I’m an Interpreter doing community work and I love my job! Glad to see this being discussed on my favorite podcast! God is Good! 🙏
I think Terrence McKenna said something about how language models our realities and reasoning. What he said earlier on in the video about a closed loop cultural system among the deaf people seemed to be in parallel with this idea. Very interesting.
My husband's parents are deaf. His mother attended and lives across the street from the California School for the Deaf. He said this was very interesting and informative.
Both my parents are/were deaf. My mom is alumni of Little Rock School for the Deaf and my dad is alumni of the school for the deaf in Flint Michigan. My brother and I can hear. It was a different way to come up.
This is so fascinating. Something I never thought about. We take it for granted that we have all our five senses. It reminds me to be more grateful and more compassionate to those that are born differently.
They don't need your pity . There are aspects to using sign language you will never experience which you are missing out on with all your 'perfect senses '.
@@magicegg9503 being compassionate = pity to you?? I actually respect those that are born with a disability but they don't let it hold them back, especially blind people. However it's ridiculous to say that being "deaf is not a disability" like what the guy said in the video. Sure there may be experiences I will never experience because I'm not deaf but that's true for anything. Every person's life experience is an experience that I will not truly understand.
@@magicegg9503 I had an amazing vision, and hearing. And because of those "senses", that you despise for some reason, which gave me a great awareness and reaction time. Now I've gotten older and my vision and hearing are not the same. I still wish to get those "perfect senses" back. And if I found out there is a 6th sense that I don't have, I would definitely want that too. I would say it's ridiculous for a deaf or blind person to not want an ability if they could get it.
@@DefineMeAsOne Go look up the Social Model of Disability . You are clearly in the Medical Model perspective. Its people with attitudes like yours that holds people back a lot of the time and creates the barriers that people who are different to you face.
I took 4 semesters of ASL in college and learned A Lot! Half of it was cultural education similar to this episode, and I still learned a lot from this episode. On all those outings we went on, socializing with deaf people, I was amazed how easy they picked up on what I was trying to say with my bad beginner signing. The Deaf are incredibly bright. If you ever encounter a deaf person where you need to communicate with them, just do your best to gesture something and 99% chance they will pick up what you're trying to say...very quickly.
The biggest thing I miss now that joe is on spotify is the comments. Never knew how much I missed reading jokes an opinions while listening to the pod.
I honestly just cant imagine being locked out from perceiving the world in such a vital way, there's no doubt that other senses would begin to compensate but not being able to enjoy things like music boggles my mind.
I have a huge interest in linguistics and sign language is super interesting, been learning a little bit ASL and I so wanna learn more. SL should really be taught in every school...
As much as people want to shit on the Catholic church(and sometimes well-deserved) it really has done amazing things for the world. The father of genetics was a Catholic monk, the inventor of the modern calendar system was a Catholic priest, and now I'm learning that it was a Catholic priest who invented sign language. Remarkable.
It's an incredible motivator, tell people they or others they care about will literally burn for all eternity if certain conditions aren't met. Damn you're going to try and meet those conditions. Shows that priests truly good heart for caring about a deaf boy enough to do what he did, if there is a god id hope he'd reward that rather than some devotion to himself in service of nothing but devotion to himself. That's just a narcissist
Catholic priests taught the natives in Spanish-ruled Mexico how to do pottery and agriculture, they taught them music and painting and encouraged them to write their legends and stories. They are the reason we know about the Aztecs and the Mayans because they left no written language.
When he said, "they had to be exceptional in order to be average" I felt that in my soul. While not being deaf, there have been other places in life that maxim applied to me.
I remember in college taking an ASL class and it was incredible. The teacher was deaf never said one word and just took total control immediately. We were signing like experts by the end. Super cool experience 😎.
when Galledet opened the School for the deaf in Washington, some sisters from a convent in Quebec came down to learn how to teach Quebec deaf people. When they went back to Quebec, there was a period of time without contact of other ASL. The language continued to evolve and now Quebec has LSQ.
This is a great telling of this story. My grandparents are deaf and went to the deaf school here in Pittsburgh. Its different now but when they went to school there they used to get in trouble for signing to each other(possibly corporal, i know there was definitely abuse in one way or another there)
I am a nurse from philippines and we were taught ASL back when we were in our 3rd year in college by having us assigned for school nursing in a special education school. It opened my life to how wonderful some of these kids are, esp those on the spectrum. Turned out i related so much to them coz i am one of them, also on the spectrum. My family is poor and probably saw it as being hyperactive and needed attention only. As for the deaf/mute kids, they taught me how to improve my sign language skills to the point i can tell em jokes using it. Its one of the best skills i have picked up since despite working in the middle east, ASL is also understood here with only a few variations of theirs being implemented. I still kept in touch with those special ed kids even though its more than 15yrs since i met them.
My brother was born hard of hearing so went through life trying to go between hearing and deaf communication. I took asl in community college to try to understand him better. This is such a fascinating look at how we have handled deaf or hard of hearing people in our society . Thank you for showcasing this important subject! ❤
As a father of a deaf 3 year old this world became my own... I hope Joe begins to dive deep into this community as well as its implications of free speech and a power of language to facilitate thought
My gfs siblings are deaf and talk about the community. It’s very frustrating the divide between being hearing and non hearing but I’ll use what he said now as an example next time I’m arguing with someone. “ why let some fucking taboo stop you from experiencing what the work has to offer ?
My Dad is a Deaf Mexican immigrant. 1 of 18 brothers and sisters, multiple deaf. Non had ASL until they came to America. He met my Mom and had my brother and myself. We grew up with our own in house/family shared sign language all my life. He wasn’t educated in America or Mexico in order to learn American or Spanish Sign in his 30s. He’s a good father and person. Great time seeing him meet other deaf people in public. I now have epilepsy myself. Enjoy it while you can. ✌️. Good journey.
My mom and dad are both Deaf they met at the Tennessee school of the Deaf and had four kids that all hear and speak and I wouldn't change my parents for the world they are unique in their own way and the Deaf community all stick together they help each other they help baby sit each other kids my God Parents are Deaf as well I love the Deaf Community ❤
The difference in sign language in Ireland is even stranger because deaf kids were generally borders and the boys were taught by the brothers and the girls were taught by the nuns and they never mixed until they were out of school by which time they had developed very different sign languages so one couldn't really talk to the other. This is pretty much gone by the way but back in the 50's it was like this.
I recall in the early 70s there was a misconception that deaf people had an intellectual handicap. Perception always changes with connection and new understanding. Amazing guest.
It took me a minute but I recognized the guest from comedy sets. I had no idea about his history and this clip is already one of my favorites from JRE.
So I live with a NHS nurse, she left mental health and challenging behaviour after 10 years to start as a deaf community nurse. Had to learn sign language obviously, and it's one of the most impressive things I've come across, that was about 6 years ago.. but for all the things hearing people like us never think about, music films general joking with someone sarcasm... Normal stuff.. then eyes opened.. how do u explain or teach someone sarcastic tones with sign or anything that you just understand or question from hearing it. Incredible.
My ex husband has a deaf cousin and he was in the cousins wedding. Everyone was deaf except my ex, I witnessed him dealing with a lot of hostility in the practice, etc. He asked me if he was imaging this and I was flabbergasted! We didn't understand why the hostility, but now I think that I do. I saw it firsthand and it's real! It was the craziest wedding ever and very difficult not to laugh, they don't realize how loud they are with grunts, etc
I’m a CODA like Moshe. Also been a Joe Rogan fan my whole life since my Deaf dad loves UFC and we used to all watch Fear Factor every week as a family. It’s really awesome to see Joe being genuinely interested in this because like Moshe, I too tell this story to al my hearing friends hoping to get people interested in Deaf culture. However while we’re on the topic of language and accessibility and seeing the overwhelmingly positive reaction from the JRE fans to this clip, I find it incredibly ironic that despite all the hundreds of millions of dollars that goes to this culturally impactful show, we still can’t get professional captions so that it’s accessible to the community that they’re discussing here…the Deaf. The auto captions on UA-cam are insufficient, just try watching without volume. There’s no distinction of who is talking, no punctuation, capitalization, improperly spelled words, etc. By not properly captioning content, you “hearing” content creators are continuing to perpetuate this language and culture deprivation to the Deaf, further isolating them from society.
The shit I have learned in this one space is unbelievable he may not be the funniest dude but he’s at the very least the gateway to so much information which is cooler honestly
These are the types of interviews that got me into JR. An extremely knowledgeable, well spoken expert talking about something they are passionate about.
Yes! As opposed to the same comedians on and on
yeah, the funny shit is that my next video is, is big foot an interdimensional being?
Yes, without Joe's BS.
@@vanyllinha That or random conspiracy crap
100%. This guy is a fantastic speaker. Super engaging and knowledgeable
My sister was born deaf. She’s had a vastly different life than everyone else I know. My family is very musical, it’s weird knowing she can’t hear anything we play. She struggles with maintaining any relationships because people simply can’t relate to her and vice versa. People were absolutely evil to her in high school and taunted her on early Facebook, telling her to kill herself. Treat your fellow humans kindly, friends.
Yes social media is a cancer
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I can relate with your story. My mother and father are deaf and they were limited education. I am 52 so and their upbringing was very difficult.
I used to wanna hit on a deaf girl I knew but had no idea how to communicate lol
That is terrible. Sounds like she was stronger than they were.
There’s nothing more refreshing than hearing someone know what they’re talking about and also being passionate about it.
Yeah that would be nice, if only this was one of those times
It’s weird of him to say that deaf people think of not deaf people as the enemy, I find that hard to believe.
how would know if ure not deaf
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i am mace windu
i had many mentors all of them were wise
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what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later”
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i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
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@@jaeslow6347 I met a deaf coworker when I worked at a warehouse, I learned enough to understand and he signed one day that none of his family knew sign and his parents thought he was dumb. So not hard to believe when you understand how people treat them
He's right about the thinking process with language. After I took 4 ASL classes in college, I had a conversation with a deaf person before our class started one day, and one thing I asked her was: When you think to your self, what do you see? I told her I hear my voice talking to me. She said she envisions herself signing, more specifically her torso and head region signing to herself. This episode blew me away when he talked about the Deaf not have any language at one point and how they would have to handle thinking to themselves. Wow.
That’s so cool, thanks for sharing
my girlfriend is also completely deaf since childhood, and I asked her the exact same question, and she also envisions words as signs.
She truly has a somewhat vague concept of sound, in general, but I have been trying to explain it to her physically how it is and what it seems like. Music is a big deal to me and I like to share it with her in the ways I can.
This feels like old Rogan, where he has a guest who's able to tell us about a very fascinating topic. We just sit back and be entertained
I agree. Haven’t been captivated by a story like this in a while
I know I like the old Joe, or he would just have random people with wonderful stories that you would never think that they would have…. Like one time I got hit by a train literally on foot…. True story.
The OLD JRE was awesome, since he moved to Texas it's been mostly dog shit. Whatever he was doing before he needs to start doing that again.
@@Chef-vg4pu I read " Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History
Book by S. C. Gwynne " because the podcast was so good.
He's never changed you've just stopped listening.
Man this is the best clip I've seen in a while. I learned a TON in 15 minutes that I have somehow never heard in my entire life! Well done, and what a fantastic guy to interview!
I was thinking the same thing….. and my daughter is fluent in sign language. She needs to take a second language so she’s picked sign….. I gotta go talk to her!
Came here to say exact same. Learned so much. Had no idea it's a completely separate language the way he explained it was fascinating. Absolutely fascinating information to learn about
same. picture this..
its 11am in Australia, now i have to lock my doors for the next 2.5hrs and watch the Spotify interview.
not what i had planned for today
Just go to another country by yourself and not know the language. You'll get a sense of what deaf people go through. It's not oppression. It's complicated.
You didn't hear.. hehe
I am a CODA (Child of deaf adults), put an immigrant spin on that and that is my life. I understand this guest a hundred percent and agree totally about what he is saying. ❤
Me too.
I'm a cohp
The pastor of my church adopted a deaf boy. The whole family learned sign language. His wife signs all events their son attends. I have tremendous respect for her ability to translate so fast. It’s not easy work.
My brother was born profoundly deaf and I remember being told by one of his teachers at the Maryland School for the Deaf that our family was unique because we all knew how to sign. Most of the children went home to families where they could not communicate with anyone. That was 40 years ago and one hopes the ASL ability of hearing family members has changed significantly.
God bless that family I read your post & all i thought of was how Jesus would heal the deaf & make the blind see, the lame walk, & the dead to rise what a life altering experience He gave em! Jesus is my Lord & my Savior King of Kings!
yea there is a 0% chance that that boy was not molested by that pastor bro...
I used to know fluent sign language my neighbors across the street had three kids the parents were deaf but the kids weren't and they taught me sign language also I lived in council bluffs Iowa and we had Iowa School for the deaf❤❤❤
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
This guest’s enthusiasm and passion was insane! You can see it just carrying his story.
Moshe Kasher - he's a comedian married to Natasha Leggero
@@menwithven8114 Yes, we watched the same video. Not sure why you would think that a parent’s “disability” would translate to a child’s passion. Plenty of kids end up resentful instead.
@prelvas88 I think he may have been resentful, as a kid. If you know his life story, he got into a LOT of trouble as a relatively young kid.
@@prelvas88 there is a story to tell
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what do you mean. what would make you think that there is something wrong with what i said did you see kit fisto spelling off a mentor who was like a brother to me once told me “if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat later”
“if we don’t stop barack scumbama now he could become a threat and a danger to our later generation our loved ones.”
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i’m not saying that i agree with you but then again I’m not always correct either I remember a time back in the 80s when I was growing up things were different back then these youngsters today what makes you think that? It’s all right to disagree with people I remember when I was a young man growing up in the 80s in America it was a different time then back then we used to call each other this is the best I’ve seen from you guys in a while
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@@justayoutuber1906 Yep talked his way under that skirt when so many others were trying and smart guy
I had a design firm and hired 2 deaf employees. Every Friday, I stopped work and they would teach the rest of us ASL. My whole office was fluent. One of them was born deaf, the other lost his hearing as a young child. The one that lost his as a child was a bull rider, would go dancing, heavily engaged in society. The other one..I asked him if he could get implants if he would get them and he said, no. Fascinating experience and people.
Edit: I did not realize so many had reacted to my comment! So, of course they were paid and they were very happy, productive and highly competent employees. We had a positive, healthy workforce. No client issues with deadlines..that's just a ridiculous comment because anyone working in a deadline oriented business knows how to schedule. I completely appreciate the positive feedback! ❤️
Good on you! I love this ❤
That's awesome
Cool boss!
Really inspiring.
Yall did a great thing! In middle school we had only one single deaf student who (with her interpreter) taught every single class once a month, even the students who didn’t have classes with her. While relatively basic, I’m forever grateful for being shown how to communicate with people whose first language *is* ASL
Took 4 semesters of ASL changed my entire mindset, the culture the language is a hidden gem.
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Same! It’s such a beautiful emotive language. I think in sign sometimes now.
True story. I grew up driving by the first deaf school in America. We'd see it every time we'd get on the highway and as a child, it was just curious. Fast forward years and years and one of my kids was born with a condition that made her deaf before she would normally start picking up speech...only miles from that place. We moved before she would start her education, but landed in Cobb County, Ga., which is one of only a couple of counties in the country that had a DHH program in the public school system. My daughter is now dean's list in her second year of college, double lettered in orchestra in high school and was a competition-level dancer throughout her life.
How wonderful! Y'all have a lot to be proud of❤
As a CODA and Interpreter, this guy speaks truth. For all the good and bad of the community. He is speaking truth.
Ayyy I’m a coda and I’m going to college to become an interpreter!
@@dehso Hey, there is a lot of unsolicited advice I can tell you as a someone whose been in the field for 14 years. But if you are serious, the moment you pass the EIPA, take the RID/NIC immediately. Odds are you will pass it first try if you manage to get past the EIPA. That one came as a surprise to a lot of the newbies in my department, so I figure they aren't telling you guys in the ITPs about this.
@@ADayintheLifeoftheTw I’m going to look into that! Thank you so much for the advice!
I grew up with deaf grandparents in Australia. I love them so much. Would have been so hard growing up in this world. But they raised three kids, worked hard and taught me so much.
Empathy and love are not senses
There were many moments in deaf history over the past 100 years that led to the reinstatement of a deaf education. What he is referring to in the 70s is when my grandfather Willard Madsen traveled the world giving lectures to teach the education program that allowed a hearing teacher to educate a deaf person. A program he created as a professor at Galludet University in Maryland. He also wrote "You Have To be Deaf To Understand " and the textbooks used to learn ASL.
Fascinating stuff. Wow
My dad is an ASL interpreter for a government funded video relay service called Sorenson. Basically it’s the original FaceTime so that deaf people all over the US can take phone calls like any average American. He’s shared many scenarios he’s interpreted for. Like this guy mentioned, murder trials, informing family members of death, breaks up. you name it, he’s interpreted it. The craziest part about all of it, is my dad lost all fingers on his left hand, besides his thumb at 18, I have never understood how the deaf community understands what he’s saying. (I never learned ASL besides the alphabet and cuss words despite growing up around it) They always ask if he’s a CODA (Child Of a Deaf Adult) which blows my mind when I really think about it, which isn’t often, cos he only has 6 fingers in total, yet still communicates with the deaf flawlessly. Truly is a beautiful language
I took ASL in college and I will say that getting by with only one hand makes sense to me. Even the fundamentals like the entire alphabet and counting is all done with one hand. Atleast for ASL. But for example BSL (British Sign Language) uses two hands when counting.
He just has a lisp in sign language.
RID's code of ethics states that interpreters must keep details of assignments private. Interpreters must respect Deaf folks and keep all information confidential. Imagine if your personal business was being talked about
@@rralbq there is no personal information shared. He’s not giving me details or giving me word for word playbacks of the conversations. When I say story’s I’m literally getting as much info as I just gave you. And it’s not right after his work day.
I’ll ask if he’s ever interpreted X Y or Z and he’ll state “yes” and that’s it. Trust me I’ve tried to get stories but he is very professional about his work. Nice try, trying to over assume though.
Wow, this was an awesome episode. I am one of 5 CODAs (Children of Deaf Adults) and we are all hearing. Both of my parents were born deaf though, my mom got it genetically and my dad became deaf while he was in the womb due to German Measles. So the way they both were raised was very different. My mom already had two older siblings that were deaf as well so the whole family learned ASL (as best they could) and my grandma and aunts would interpret for my mom while she was in school, until she was able to have an interpreter provided to her by the public school. My mom wanted to be in public school because the Deaf Institutions at the time were not challenging the Deaf at all. They only cared about basic education for the Deaf and there werent any accelerated programs. So my mom insisted on going to public school so she could learn as much as she could, just like all the other hearing kids, and she did very well, despite problems with interpreters and being the only Deaf student.
With my dad though, he had a small family and they didn't really know what to do with him, they werent used to deaf people. So they did what most parents did at that time, that had a Deaf child, per the doctor's recommendation, they sent them off to boarding school so they could be taught speech pathology/audiology and basically be forced to learn to talk and be like a hearing person. My dad is able to talk, but not all Deaf can. So it doesnt work for the majority of Deaf. My dad wears a hearing aid, but my mom HATES them so she doesnt. Theres also different levels of deafness. Some people can hear higher tones, but not low tones, and vice versa. Obviously, the ears arent always on the same level, just like our eyes arent.
I could go on and on about Deaf culture and the issues my parents face, like hearing people not understanding that Deaf people are (usually) normal people who just cant hear. They are as intelligent and aware as anyone. They can text, use a computer, drive a car, take care of themselves, LEARN AND TEACH, and many many more. Ive gotten ALOT of dumb questions over the years 😂, but its all good because awareness is important. I dont see people getting upset at how little Deaf Awareness there is, but it is getting better, and videos like this are so good for that.
The reason i said Deaf people, usually, are just normal people, is because a lot of the time (like with my dad) Deafness is caused by a deformity or disease while in the womb. So it is very common to meet a Deaf person that has a vision impairment/colorblindness, or is completely blind, or has physical or mental limitations. Which is another reason why the Deaf community has been so oppressed for a long time.
I knew this was gonna be long, but if you read all this, youre awesome! Im just so happy to see Joe have this guy on the pod so he could spread the history and awareness about Deaf people and how important Sign Language is. If you have any questions for me, lmk!
Do a pod, tell me all about it
I’m deaf and I love hearing people stand up for our community.
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I'm deaf too and I hear you
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I’m not dead, and I can’t hear any of you. I’m reading your comments though.
My dad is Deaf from birth and my mom was hard of hearing. The stories I've been told from their childhoods are crazy. So happy to have sign language be my first language.
When rogan has intellectual individuals on it makes my day. The comedians are good but you cannot beat a well put together, smart passionate conversation.
moshe kasher is actually foremost a comedian!
This guy isn't tardreaded but he's not an intellectual by any means.
I worked at a restaurant in my 20s and we hired a deaf guy as a dishwasher. He did a really good job of communicating with the rest of the staff with just basic general gestures and facial expressions. After a couple weeks, I decided to learn the alphabet and some basic phrases and started talking to him, and he taught me a little more every day. A few more people started learning too and we had a little signing community going. It was a lot of fun! That dude was really smart and funny as fuck, and god damn he partied hard lol. Then he went on vacation to Thailand and Vietnam and I never heard from the dude again. Wonder what he's up to from time to time.
He never heard from you either
@@SalvadorButtersworth hahahahahaha jesus, thanks internet
@@hairypeak4282 Puns are the best part of the internet
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @@SalvadorButtersworth
Bangkok has him now
This is actually fascinating. Someone needs to make a good documentary about this
A silent film
There is=Sound and Fury is one.
Nope this is enough
ua-cam.com/video/PL5d8kyZUQk/v-deo.html Through Deaf Eyes
If you don’t want to wait for the movie someone already wrote the book. Seeing voices by Oliver Sacks
I really appreciate how enthusiastic he sounds when trying to explain it to Joe. You can tell he’s extremely passionate about it, which is awesome
Since I am a hearing person I cannot experience what a deaf person does and does not experience. That being said I cannot imagine the loss or not having had any sense from birth and not wanting a medical way of having it.
I realize that sometimes it’s better not to hear certain things but I believe that would be a circumstance of exception.
Waking up in the morning hearing the birds singing, the wind blowing through the trees, a baby laughing as its mother laughs back…
Thanks to this podcast I will never again take my hearing for granted. Thank you both so much! ❤
I’m a hearing person with a kindergarten level of ASL and learning ASL has made me more grateful for my eyesight and comfortable with the idea I could lose my hearing- more likely in old age. We sign to our children, and the idea of losing my ability to see- not too far off since my prescription is pretty bad- and to have to learn Sign by touch scares the hell out of me.
@@farmschoolchicks1913 Then live every minute in appreciation of what you have now… I think that’s the best you can do. May God bless you…
That's an incredible story! I never thought about 2 deaf people being able to create their own language.
Bruh every civilization on the planet has made their own language.
And if you got enough deaf people in one place for a long time they would create their own religion and gods too. Their devil would be hearing and their god would be deaf.
@@drugsarebad97 yeah... through talking.
Twins do that sometime (look for the Gibbons sisters)
@@justcallmpeter it’s so ignorant to assume people couldn’t make sign language tho. Legit just like the people who used to think the deaf couldn’t think 😂
I'm 60 and in 7th grade I made friends with a deaf girl and she taught me sign language, I haven't seen her for over 40yrs but I still remember sign!😊
Too bad she didn’t teach you grammar. 😂😂😂
@@BrightResultsMedia say what 🤪, that's rude dude!!!
@@BrightResultsMediayour content is garbage.
@@JupiterJane1984 I’m 50 and have 7th grade humor. Lol
Gotcha 🤪🤪👍
This was a deeply powerful and enlightening exposition on the trials, tribulations, and struggles that the deaf community has faced over the years. Thank you for sharing such profound insights in your personal journey, it underscores the importance of sign language in empowering and connecting people.
This is ai bro
It's so clearly GPT or AI
My cousin who was born deaf and as a result of the community aspect married to a deaf woman decided not to have kids on the probability they would not be deaf.
They considered the issues and were put off, Then along came mobile phones and the text message or SMS and talk to text, 3 healthy hearing kids later they credit the SMS as the reason they decided they could tackle parenthood it changed their lives so drastically.
Jamie trolling us with this sign language video with no audio.😂
There is also no closed captioning
chad jamie
I'm not trying to cause any riff-raff but I don't see why it's funny
@@lilkevin219read the headline and read the post comment...have a laugh man 😂
@@lilkevin219 it's funny because it isn't true. he put troll intent on Jamie but Jamie only puts sound on when requested to be putting sound on because it gets clips in youtube demonetized for "fair use."
This is absolutely amazing. I love learning new things that I have never ever thought about before.
Watch Jack Hibbs ❤
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I am a CODA (Children of deaf adults) Both my parents are deaf, my sister, and my grandma. & I’m the only one that can hear. Growing up in this environment, I wouldn’t change a thing. It has taught me so many things that most people wouldn’t even ponder about. Growing up I would have to interpret and help in ways that matured me faster than my peers. Growing up it was hard sometimes cause people wouldn’t really understand the deaf world. I would get made fun of sometimes. Because of the way the “sound” or just the sheer fact they speak with their hands. Or I would be with my dad waiting in line and he would accidentally be in someone’s way, they would say excuse me and obviously my dad couldn’t hear them so he has no idea. So people get frustrated easily because them being deaf is the last thing they’d expect. Stuff like this really aggravated me growing up. And this happened many many times. And when I would say hey he’s deaf. They shut right up and walk away. If you’re reading this. Just next time. Keep in mind that people are deaf. And don’t be ignorant thinking everything is the same with everyone. Another thing, deaf people CAN DO EVERYTHING A HEARING PERSON CAN DO BUT HEAR. Literally. They can drive, they can reproduce, they can do anything we hearing people can do. It’s okay to ask questions but not stupid questions. Thank you. Hopefully this shed some insight into my world. 🤟🏼
I took am a coda and people would ask me the silliest questions like .how does your parents sleep..I would say hanging upside down like vampires..you should have seen their faces... some people just don't get it 😂
My grandfather knew indigenous American “trade talk.” That’s fascinating and yet not surprising it had a role in creating a culture of sign language. Thank you for sharing.
My ex-wife was deaf. She ended up cheating on me with my best friend. I was mad for a bit but, to be honest, I should have seen the signs.
the selective hearing of men knows no bounds lol
Yeah, I've found that deaf women are very animalistic when it comes to sex. The first time I fell in love with a deaf woman I was 8. I just remember her being so fiery.
Good tip for when driving, too
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Comedy gold 🥇
Hilarious that the Closed Captions aren't available on this video yet 😂😂
No it's not those things take processing time it's normal.
Don’t let the deaf hear about this
It's the only way we have left the keep them down
Or the thing we're we put our hands over our mouths so they can't read lips
It was just posted 😂 this will age well
ASL Interpreter here! It truly is a privilege to listen to a native speaker tell the tale of the Deaf, and the inception of their culture; as turbulent of a journey as it was/is.
As a fellow child of deaf parents (CODA) and a college professor who teaches Interpretation and Deaf Studies, this guy's comments are straight on. He's a very good storyteller who connects to what people know and understand and expands on it. It's such a gift to get this information out to the general public. There's more to the story now. Research on Signed languages has exploded, and there are more than 150 known signed languages in the world and that research has helped us understand so much about linguistic universals and what is shared between spoken and signed languages.
Joe's always been really interested in language (ancient languages, other scripts, etc.) and I've always wished he would have a professor of linguistics on the show some time, I think he'd really enjoy learning more.
Professor John McWhorter would be the perfect guest for this
I think Steven Pinker was close. I think he’s a cognitive scientist who focused on linguistics and language acquisition. Don’t really remember his JRE episode but I think it was more focused on his book which was something like a hopeful take.
@@brah629 yep agreed, pinker was on but didn't get into the linguistic weeds with Joe. I think we need a linguist on who can answer Joe's curiosity around ancient languages, cryptolinguistics, historical linguistics, and stuff like that-- Joe always has good questions but nobody around has the answers (minus this video)
Finally, a CODA with a platform who has such a rich and full knowledge of history to share. I literally teach this history at a University but could not have put it as eloquently as Kasher did here.
He really did tell this quite succinctly and eloquently. Was the first lesson I learned in my beginning ASL class.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f Yet you can't understand evolution of language and changing meanings.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f I am a teacher, and the subject I teach involves exactly the subject Kasher talked about, meaning that I literally - yes, actually literally - teach this at school.
Take a good long look in the mirror, because you seem to be fine with being a terrible negative force stemming from trivial things that you somehow also happen to be in the wrong about.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f like honestly i get the hate for the word and how overused it is as an adjective but cmon dude. at least point out when its actually used incorrectly.
@@user-jx2kz4hh5f Literally, the least worthwhile people in society are grammar Nazis who make errors when trying to police others...you incorrectly posted "it's" (it is) where 'its' belonged.
Been a big fan of Kasher for a long time but this is next level - he's throwing down hard here- big ups yo
Wow. This is probably the most fascinating story I’ve ever heard on the JRE. This guy is great!
An absolutely amazing story followed up by the most Joe Rogan question ever lmao
"do you think chimps will be able to create their own sign language?"
@@niks9652 too late, they're there
that's what we love this podcast for 🥐🥐
My Oldest sister is hearing impaired and I learned how to sign first than how to speak. Hahahah! I love my sister. 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻❤
An ex of mine had a deaf sister, so I saw a lot of sign language being used (picked up a tiny bit) and we once went to see a BLIND AND DEAF woman speak at our school. She was born deaf and lost her eyesight as well later on due to a genetic conditon. She AMAZINGLY earned a PhD and really the only way she could communicate was palm writing (so sign language where you use your finger on someone elses hand). It was amazing honestly.
I watched the whole clip w/ no audio and CC.
Even though the print size was hard to read, I realized how important it is to see the expressions and movements of the people communicating!
Hopefully technology will start to break down barriers and everyone will live together as who they are, as opposed to Which Identity Box the system has categorized into people.
Thank you for the closed captioning & transcript ❤
I’ve been hard-of-hearing all my life and with CC and or the transcript it helps me understand what is being communicated.
It's so nice of Joe to have Natasha Leggero's wife on the podcast.
Ari is too much of a coward to do anything to him so he attacked Bobby Lee numerous times.
@@KryMooreTrue, but her*
lol can someone explain this comment, please?
Yes please! @@gregorynobles4863
This made me chuckle, thank you for that !
I started working in a grocery store when I was 16. I started seeing a deaf girl around my age that would come into the store. She was from the orphanage nearby (I think called a children’s home by then). She’d come in to get one or two things - a soda or a candy bar. She’d always come through my line at the checkout. The first time I didn’t know that she was deaf. I said hello to her and she just smiled. Later she’d wave to me when she came in. Always come over to see me. She started saying a few words, but seemed self-conscience about it - probably because she couldn’t hear herself. She was beautiful. I wanted to ask her out but either didn’t know how to go about it or was just a goofy teen kid that was afraid to ask. It would have been interesting to have gotten to know her better and learn her language.
You should have asked her out man, what a shame. I hope she’s happy and living a good life ❤ thanks for the story
Both of my parents are deaf! Known ASL all my life and now I’m an Interpreter doing community work and I love my job! Glad to see this being discussed on my favorite podcast! God is Good! 🙏
I think Terrence McKenna said something about how language models our realities and reasoning. What he said earlier on in the video about a closed loop cultural system among the deaf people seemed to be in parallel with this idea. Very interesting.
I have just learnt something really important and it has instantly changed how I understand deafness.
My husband's parents are deaf. His mother attended and lives across the street from the California School for the Deaf. He said this was very interesting and informative.
Both my parents are/were deaf. My mom is alumni of Little Rock School for the Deaf and my dad is alumni of the school for the deaf in Flint Michigan. My brother and I can hear. It was a different way to come up.
This is so fascinating. Something I never thought about. We take it for granted that we have all our five senses. It reminds me to be more grateful and more compassionate to those that are born differently.
Nah they don't like us fuck them
They don't need your pity . There are aspects to using sign language you will never experience which you are missing out on with all your 'perfect senses '.
@@magicegg9503 being compassionate = pity to you?? I actually respect those that are born with a disability but they don't let it hold them back, especially blind people. However it's ridiculous to say that being "deaf is not a disability" like what the guy said in the video. Sure there may be experiences I will never experience because I'm not deaf but that's true for anything. Every person's life experience is an experience that I will not truly understand.
@@magicegg9503 I had an amazing vision, and hearing. And because of those "senses", that you despise for some reason, which gave me a great awareness and reaction time. Now I've gotten older and my vision and hearing are not the same.
I still wish to get those "perfect senses" back. And if I found out there is a 6th sense that I don't have, I would definitely want that too. I would say it's ridiculous for a deaf or blind person to not want an ability if they could get it.
@@DefineMeAsOne Go look up the Social Model of Disability . You are clearly in the Medical Model perspective. Its people with attitudes like yours that holds people back a lot of the time and creates the barriers that people who are different to you face.
woah this story is super interesting. if a documentary ever comes out on this topic it would be golden
PBS’s Through Deaf Eyes is a decent one. Highly recommend the book Seeing Voices by Oliver Sacks
I took 4 semesters of ASL in college and learned A Lot! Half of it was cultural education similar to this episode, and I still learned a lot from this episode. On all those outings we went on, socializing with deaf people, I was amazed how easy they picked up on what I was trying to say with my bad beginner signing. The Deaf are incredibly bright. If you ever encounter a deaf person where you need to communicate with them, just do your best to gesture something and 99% chance they will pick up what you're trying to say...very quickly.
The biggest thing I miss now that joe is on spotify is the comments. Never knew how much I missed reading jokes an opinions while listening to the pod.
The dude is wearing the same type of shades my grandma wore in the early 1990s
At Del Boca Vista
He's getting in-touch with the seeing-impaired.
I honestly just cant imagine being locked out from perceiving the world in such a vital way, there's no doubt that other senses would begin to compensate but not being able to enjoy things like music boggles my mind.
Do blind + deaf next
Deaf people actually still enjoy music. They can feel the beats and vibrations and there are deaf musicians and rappers.
I have a huge interest in linguistics and sign language is super interesting, been learning a little bit ASL and I so wanna learn more. SL should really be taught in every school...
Seriously this is one of the most interesting episodes I’ve heard on the JRE in a long time, thanks very entertaining 👏
As much as people want to shit on the Catholic church(and sometimes well-deserved) it really has done amazing things for the world. The father of genetics was a Catholic monk, the inventor of the modern calendar system was a Catholic priest, and now I'm learning that it was a Catholic priest who invented sign language. Remarkable.
If I'm not mistaken the person who "gave" alphabets to the Vietnamese language was a Catholic priest.
It's an incredible motivator, tell people they or others they care about will literally burn for all eternity if certain conditions aren't met. Damn you're going to try and meet those conditions. Shows that priests truly good heart for caring about a deaf boy enough to do what he did, if there is a god id hope he'd reward that rather than some devotion to himself in service of nothing but devotion to himself. That's just a narcissist
@@jazerasor1455 You should read the book. It also says that you go to heaven if you say sorry.
@@spamcatcher2760 sorry to who and for what? What I said wasn't even in critique of religions. If anything its a social progressor
Catholic priests taught the natives in Spanish-ruled Mexico how to do pottery and agriculture, they taught them music and painting and encouraged them to write their legends and stories. They are the reason we know about the Aztecs and the Mayans because they left no written language.
When he said, "they had to be exceptional in order to be average" I felt that in my soul. While not being deaf, there have been other places in life that maxim applied to me.
I remember in college taking an ASL class and it was incredible. The teacher was deaf never said one word and just took total control immediately. We were signing like experts by the end. Super cool experience 😎.
This is why Rogans the GOAT.. he asks the questions we're all thinking
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Excellent guest. I never knew the story about the animosity between the two communities.
when Galledet opened the School for the deaf in Washington, some sisters from a convent in Quebec came down to learn how to teach Quebec deaf people. When they went back to Quebec, there was a period of time without contact of other ASL. The language continued to evolve and now Quebec has LSQ.
This is a great telling of this story. My grandparents are deaf and went to the deaf school here in Pittsburgh. Its different now but when they went to school there they used to get in trouble for signing to each other(possibly corporal, i know there was definitely abuse in one way or another there)
it almost sounds like bros on the verge of crying at any point, such emotion i love it
One of the villages I often go to in Nicaragua has a deaf guy named Dea. And he's created his own sign language within the community.
Woah that's amazing
@@crisisactor420 always a good time in Nicaragua!
@@salty82ndveteran What brings you to Nicaragua so often, your job?
I am a nurse from philippines and we were taught ASL back when we were in our 3rd year in college by having us assigned for school nursing in a special education school. It opened my life to how wonderful some of these kids are, esp those on the spectrum. Turned out i related so much to them coz i am one of them, also on the spectrum. My family is poor and probably saw it as being hyperactive and needed attention only. As for the deaf/mute kids, they taught me how to improve my sign language skills to the point i can tell em jokes using it. Its one of the best skills i have picked up since despite working in the middle east, ASL is also understood here with only a few variations of theirs being implemented. I still kept in touch with those special ed kids even though its more than 15yrs since i met them.
This makes so much sense about ASL being its own language. I've got a deaf friend, and reading his emails is rough due to the syntax.
Very interesting story about the origins of ASL. I was not aware of any of that. Would make a great movie, honestly.
Life was hard af 350 years ago....nobody got time for that.
They didn't know how important language was to the brain, without it they saw deaf people as invalids
My brother was born hard of hearing so went through life trying to go between hearing and deaf communication. I took asl in community college to try to understand him better. This is such a fascinating look at how we have handled deaf or hard of hearing people in our society . Thank you for showcasing this important subject! ❤
As a father of a deaf 3 year old this world became my own... I hope Joe begins to dive deep into this community as well as its implications of free speech and a power of language to facilitate thought
My gfs siblings are deaf and talk about the community. It’s very frustrating the divide between being hearing and non hearing but I’ll use what he said now as an example next time I’m arguing with someone. “ why let some fucking taboo stop you from experiencing what the work has to offer ?
Fantastic clip
This works well for people who can hear but not speak. My daughter uses a type of bsl its a life saver for her and the rest of the family
My Dad is a Deaf Mexican immigrant. 1 of 18 brothers and sisters, multiple deaf. Non had ASL until they came to America. He met my Mom and had my brother and myself. We grew up with our own in house/family shared sign language all my life. He wasn’t educated in America or Mexico in order to learn American or Spanish Sign in his 30s. He’s a good father and person. Great time seeing him meet other deaf people in public. I now have epilepsy myself. Enjoy it while you can. ✌️. Good journey.
My mom and dad are both Deaf they met at the Tennessee school of the Deaf and had four kids that all hear and speak and I wouldn't change my parents for the world they are unique in their own way and the Deaf community all stick together they help each other they help baby sit each other kids my God Parents are Deaf as well I love the Deaf Community ❤
The difference in sign language in Ireland is even stranger because deaf kids were generally borders and the boys were taught by the brothers and the girls were taught by the nuns and they never mixed until they were out of school by which time they had developed very different sign languages so one couldn't really talk to the other. This is pretty much gone by the way but back in the 50's it was like this.
My father was old school deaf, hated cochlear implants. The responsibility of translating for him was always rough, especially at medical appointments
I recall in the early 70s there was a misconception that deaf people had an intellectual handicap. Perception always changes with connection and new understanding. Amazing guest.
Being deaf before sign language is brutal to imagine. I never thought about it before. Can't teach them to read if they can't speak/listen first.
Haha. The part where he is talking about interpreting for his mom was exactly how I felt interpreting for my Hispanic parents in the same situation.
It took me a minute but I recognized the guest from comedy sets. I had no idea about his history and this clip is already one of my favorites from JRE.
I'm partially deaf and been wearing hearing aids since I was 10, this was very educational thank you!
This guy is so engaging! Love this.
This was sooo interesting....
Thankyou Joe for this ❤.
Wonderful interview
So I live with a NHS nurse, she left mental health and challenging behaviour after 10 years to start as a deaf community nurse. Had to learn sign language obviously, and it's one of the most impressive things I've come across, that was about 6 years ago.. but for all the things hearing people like us never think about, music films general joking with someone sarcasm... Normal stuff.. then eyes opened.. how do u explain or teach someone sarcastic tones with sign or anything that you just understand or question from hearing it. Incredible.
My wife is a twin and not deff, but her and her sister communicated in their own language as children.
My ex husband has a deaf cousin and he was in the cousins wedding. Everyone was deaf except my ex, I witnessed him dealing with a lot of hostility in the practice, etc. He asked me if he was imaging this and I was flabbergasted! We didn't understand why the hostility, but now I think that I do. I saw it firsthand and it's real! It was the craziest wedding ever and very difficult not to laugh, they don't realize how loud they are with grunts, etc
Incredible clip - the first 10 minutes was so dense with informative and fascinating content. Fantastic storytelling from the guest
awesome interview
nicely explained, wow, thank you
I love Joe. Just for the fact I'm introduced to ideas I wouldn't normally seek out. Very interesting
I’m a CODA like Moshe. Also been a Joe Rogan fan my whole life since my Deaf dad loves UFC and we used to all watch Fear Factor every week as a family. It’s really awesome to see Joe being genuinely interested in this because like Moshe, I too tell this story to al my hearing friends hoping to get people interested in Deaf culture.
However while we’re on the topic of language and accessibility and seeing the overwhelmingly positive reaction from the JRE fans to this clip, I find it incredibly ironic that despite all the hundreds of millions of dollars that goes to this culturally impactful show, we still can’t get professional captions so that it’s accessible to the community that they’re discussing here…the Deaf.
The auto captions on UA-cam are insufficient, just try watching without volume. There’s no distinction of who is talking, no punctuation, capitalization, improperly spelled words, etc. By not properly captioning content, you “hearing” content creators are continuing to perpetuate this language and culture deprivation to the Deaf, further isolating them from society.
Great episode. Love learning something new. Keep these types of talks coming!
The shit I have learned in this one space is unbelievable he may not be the funniest dude but he’s at the very least the gateway to so much information which is cooler honestly