This Tract Toric ELR 4.4 30x56 with a 34mm main tube Is "By Far" my most FAVORITE FFP Scope I own... and I have quite a few F G P Scopes. I do Wish It would have came out earlier. I almost bought the Tract Toric 30mm tube but knew I wanted a 34mm tube to enable me to dial more elevation shoiting lo g range and ELR .It's clear & sharp and has the best push -pull locking turrets out there.Thanks Jon I love it
I've had a Tract Toric for about a year now and have shot multiple 2 day national level events with it and absolutely loved it! Considering buying another one so I don't have to switch it back and forth from my NRL rifle to my NRL Hunter rifle. I have not found a reticle that I like more in any other optic. I've heard people say they aren't crazy about the high turrets, but they are extremely smooth and the easiest to zero than any other scope I've used. Great glass and it tracks. In my opinion it is the biggest bang for your buck on the market.
I have 3 Tract scopes. One I have on my 22 for practice one I have on my hunting gun and the ELR you just reviewed is on my PRS gun. I am 100% behind this scope it allows me to follow my shoots and do corrections quickly.
Question, I am using a Athlon Midas Tac 56mm scope, I have old eyes and would like to see those 300 yard targets a little clearer. I spend a lot of time deciding on a purchase in this price range and on up. I like the fact this has Shott glass and believe it would be a set up in glass quality over my 750 dollar scopes, it will be mounted on a high end 22lr. Should I possibly buy this scope or save my pennies for a higher tier scope, and if so, any recommendations, my budget isn't quite ZCO or Attcr range
Get a Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 MRAD on sale for $699.99. It will blow you away compared to your Midas Tac. I'd rate it just behind the Tract Toric ELR but glass is close and also uses German Schott glass and the Meopta usually sells for $1260.
I have 3 Tract scopes. They more than do the job. Both in PRS & ELR shooting. Customer service has been a 10 out of 10. Tracking is spot on. They just flat out work for my old eyes.
Tract Toric ELR is better quality slightly better glass according to my own eyes and all moving parts and controls feel smoother and includes a matching sunshade and at least press fit lens covers while the Athlon Cronus BTR UHD doesn't even include a sunshade not anything to protect the lenses. If they're the same price with neither having a sale, buy the Tract Toric ELR unless you can buy the Cronus BTR UHD for at least $200-$300 cheaper. Another thing I noticed is my Cronus BTR UHD illuminated reticle only lights up half of one side while the other half is noticeably dimmer. The Tract Toric ELR has a perfect consistent illumination brightness throughout the entire reticle as it should be. The Athlon looked like an old Chinese Hawke Sidewinder scope that only half of one side of the reticle lit up when illumination was turned on. I've seen a UA-cam review with a newer Cronus BTR UHD with new style reticle light up bolder on half of one side similar to mine but his wasn't quite as bad.
Being as it is a bit of a PITA to order a scope direct from US to Cda, and having to buy sight unseen, it was a long process to work up the decision to order one, but, I did it, and it was well worth it now that I've used it a bit. Tract made it easy too, great instructions on what needed to be done to get one to Cda. Think I made the right choice, it has lived up to their word on it. I have a Delta as well, great scope, Tract's turrets are a hair better feel, Delta has a turn indicator which I like better, reticles are both very useable. Hard to go wrong on the LOW chassis based scopes, just a matter of what options you like.
I had the opportunity to use this scope for the covid match. I really enjoyed it. It took some time to get used to a large elevation knob. Overall I agree with your great review. Thank for putting it together.
Just got one last month and the glass is very clear and the torets is spot on! Very good glass that's all I can say..I've shot Nikon Glass on my DSLR before and this guy's glass is 👏
Absolutely! Great guy! I had a few questions and got back to me within about 5 minutes! Several conversations later and I jumped in! And am I glad I did! They’ll have my business a lot more in the future!👍👍
$1600 was a bit more than I wanted to spend but I found a lightly used 4-20x50 model for just over a grand on the Hide. I've shot about a half-dozen local PRS matches with it now. I really like this scope for pretty much all of the same reasons you mentioned. The reticle is really quick and easy to use when under time pressure. The turrets are probably my favorite part. There is no mushy feeling and all of the hash marks line up perfectly. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for saying that. I try my best to be as transparent as possible. Sometimes it's difficult when it comes down to sharing what amounts to my opinion on a product. The next guy could come along with his opinion and tell you the scope is junk.
This looks like a nice scope, and this is my first introduction to Tract. I wish them well in making some in roads into what seems like a market that has a ridiculous amount of great options. I have several scopes of 30x scopes on my ELR rigs. I really like the 30x at 300 yds shooting at splatter targets.
Granted the price difference will impact your answer, how would you compare the Tract Toric to the Leopold Mark 5? Upper magnication models. Need to shave some cost from my build to get it done.
Well isn’t this targeted for ELD? It is nice to see your poi down range without having to use a separate spotting scope. Also that you can follow the bullet trace with this high magnification. For the price having tier 1 Schott glass with minimal aberrations, directly competes with my Schmidt Bender 3-20 Ultrashort. I see the reticle has a center dot that is illuminated. Is that dot daytime bright? From my Ultrashort’s low profile turrets to the very high turret of this Toric is a big difference. My S&B did cost double of this scope. I do want to buy it for it’s extended range and I’ll probably end up buying this. Thanks for your honest review with waiting to do this with your extensive use of it.
hi, thanx for the report: I never heard about this scopes manufacturer. Where is it made ? how much does it run on retail market..? thank you for yr answer
Have you checked out the UHD 4-20×50 by them yet?? I ended up ordering one because you can't find a single negative review about them and for the money I had to see it for myself. I also figured worst case scenario I could return or sell it if it didn't live up to the hype but I've got a pretty good feeling it will because again I can't find anything bad being said about that optic ...
They are just as nice as the 4.5-30x56 but the 4-20x50 only has 65moa of total elevation travel and is heavier than many scopes on its power range which are the only negatives I can comment on after having two of them and then a 4.5-30x56 which I like a lot better.
I have both scopes and my 4-20 is on my Bergara B-14 R .22 lr. The ELR is on my MPA Curtis Axiom. I also have their 1-8x 42 and their 4-16x44. Plus the 10x50 binoculars. Every one worth every penny. It was hard to drop serious coin on a scope sight unseen but the 30 day return covers that if you don’t like it when you get it. The 4-20 was the first one I bought so at $1300 I was a little skittish but I saw so many reviews I decided to give Tract a chance and now they’re my go to
Value your opinion and curious what you think. I have a Tikka UPR 6.5 that I’m going to use as crossover rifle (Hunt/Long/PRS). I have a 2k Budget (Retired military discount in effect) I have been heavily leaning towards a Mark5 (light weight, pay premium to get illumination) Tremor 3 illuminated, because it’s their only illuminated reticle that would work for the this. The other is an Element Nexus (Lighter, better FOV, but non locking turrets and less mag.) Now I’m look at this Tract Toric (heavy weight, but has everything else). Kind of stuck and wanted your thoughts or if you know of other options you would recommend in my price range?
Hi. Thanks for watching sir! The Mark5 is a great choice of course, but I don’t think you have to spend that kind of money for a quality optic. Tract Toric is a good option. Brownells MPO is a good option at $999, although it’s non-illuminated. I’m a fan of the Vortex Viper PST Gen2 as well. It’s around $1000. The difference between the Vortex or Brownells glass and the Leupold is pretty noticeable however. You may be able to find a used Vortex Razor HD Gen2 or used Nightforce NXS for less than 2k on sites like Sniper’s Hide. Good luck on your quest. 👊
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Which glass would you say is better when talking the vortex, leupold, brownells, tract? I’m looking at MK5 5-25 TREMOR 3 illuminated with rings sun shade, covers for around $2200, or the Tract 4.5-30 for around $1700....which would you pick in that scenario?
@@larrymayfield2142 If I had one word to describe the glass in the Leupold Mk5 is would be "bright." It just has a clear almost high def feel to it. The Tract is very close and I would say almost identical in terms of contrast, clarity, features, etc. I personally don't think there's an extra $500 worth of value in the Leupold socpe, but there's also something to be said for a larger, more established company with a good name like Leupold. The only real personal preference issue that I see is that the Tract has very tall turrets. I personally don't care for that. On tight barricades in PRS comps, those things will get beat up. The mk5 has lower profile turrets. My 2 cents sir.
The Element Nexus is most certainly not worth $1500 not for a 5-20x. The Tract Toric has hands down no question superior glass and turrets there's no comparison.
Looking at their moa model. I like the specs I see. Thoughts on durability on a higher recoil gun? I bought a 338 Lapua Magnum and I am looking for a bit more magnification than the current optic with stops at 15x. I love my Nightforce but to get a ffp with higher magnification is $2500+ from them.
I have the big tract on a 375 cheytac and a 338 snipetac. Both heavy guns. The scopes both have taken everything without issue. They also offer a pretty nice discount for LE/Mil.
I prefer my Nightforce NX8 and cheaper $1294 Tract Toric 4-20x50 over the Element Nexus IMHO the Element isn't worth $1500 it's only a 5-20x scope and to me, it's an upside down negative value for your money.
Scope is great over 1000yds but i agree its hard to see the retical unless your zoom in, or put alumination on. If you aluminat this retical its no problem at low power 4.5 power no problem and i have really bad eyes..
The EP5 glass isn't very good when compared to the Tract Toric. The Toric is at least 2 or 3 levels higher in glass quality than the EP5 which isn't sharp at 25x and starts to lose image quality after 20x.
Are you basically saying there’s no use for that low power setting? Ever? In any situation? I might agree on a scope like this that’s designed for long range. On the other hand, a 1-6x or a 3-9x can be very useful in certain roles.
@@fjb4932 I thought 4x was low for a long range scope. But I guess a lot of scopes are 4.5x ect...... one being 7x on the low end. I can see getting a wider field of view at low power, But my scopes are a straight 20x (SWFA) so I dont really miss it.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Same here. I don't get why people are paying the high price for these scopes. Manfactures like Nightforce, Leupold, Zeiss, ect. been making high power , long range scopes for years, Then these " companies " come out of nowhere wanting the same prices $, and getting it !
@@mtnshooter2487 - I've noticed alot of "new" companies started up recently also, but from my experience the owners have worked for a known "brand" name for years, learned the business and now started their own business. You'll find alot of that today
Quit watching at 4:23 “$1,600.00 optic”. That’s out of my price range. Kinda wish that you would have lead off with that. “It’s a 4.5-30...... $1,600 msrp”
Tract makes a great product. But I’m tired of brass turrets from know on it’s stainless steel turrets or nothing. Element optics. Nexus-helix-Titan I’m not knocking Tract optics. I’m knocking BRASS IS A SOFT METAL. Ck element optics. 2 years of reaching scopes that’s my conclusion just an opinion. But proven.
Thanks for watching and commenting sir. Just a word of warning...if I think you are spamming another product on my page, I'll delete your messages. One comment here was enough...you posted three. Just making sure.
Among myself and 4 shooting buddies don't think Element Optics have enough value for the dollar when we all compared from Helix to Titan to Nexus lines compared them all side by side with other brands available among the 5 of our collection of scopes in their respective price points. Element Optics appeared to offer an overall negative value for the dollar for what you actually get in all 3 of their lines. There are better options from other brands for the same prices if not cheaper. #1 most disappointing was the $799 Titan then the #2 disappointment was the $1499 Nexus and $459 Helix. We tried them all. These disappointments were solely based on price for what we got.
I was skeptical, but I'm happy to be proven wrong. Tract makes a great product!
I've had the 30mm tract for over a year and its a $2,500 scope with a $1,200 price tag.
People were skeptical of Vortex at the begining and now look where they are. Hope Tract follows in their footsteps eith success and growth
Do you have any intention on checking out arken optics
@@tristancase8546 yes. I have one in hand and will do a review soon.
How do you rate it vs your Leopoldo Mark5?
This Tract Toric ELR 4.4 30x56 with a 34mm main tube Is "By Far" my most FAVORITE FFP Scope I own... and I have quite a few F G P Scopes.
I do Wish It would have came out earlier. I almost bought the Tract Toric 30mm tube but knew I wanted a 34mm tube to enable me to dial more elevation shoiting lo g range and ELR .It's clear & sharp and has the best push -pull locking turrets out there.Thanks Jon
I love it
I got one of these about 2 months ago and I absolutely love it! It’s better than a couple scopes that I paid $500-800 more for. Very high quality.
Where?
@@MinhVu-in9iz they had sold some on Amazon and I got one of the last two!
@@simpsonrdlarry4385 they only sell directly, you are so lucky!! They are going for $1600!!
I've had a Tract Toric for about a year now and have shot multiple 2 day national level events with it and absolutely loved it! Considering buying another one so I don't have to switch it back and forth from my NRL rifle to my NRL Hunter rifle. I have not found a reticle that I like more in any other optic. I've heard people say they aren't crazy about the high turrets, but they are extremely smooth and the easiest to zero than any other scope I've used. Great glass and it tracks. In my opinion it is the biggest bang for your buck on the market.
@@MinhVu-in9iz What he meant was he compared the $1700 Tract Toric to his more expensive scopes he paid $2200-$3000 for.
I have 3 Tract scopes. One I have on my 22 for practice one I have on my hunting gun and the ELR you just reviewed is on my PRS gun. I am 100% behind this scope it allows me to follow my shoots and do corrections quickly.
Question, I am using a Athlon Midas Tac 56mm scope, I have old eyes and would like to see those 300 yard targets a little clearer. I spend a lot of time deciding on a purchase in this price range and on up. I like the fact this has Shott glass and believe it would be a set up in glass quality over my 750 dollar scopes, it will be mounted on a high end 22lr. Should I possibly buy this scope or save my pennies for a higher tier scope, and if so, any recommendations, my budget isn't quite ZCO or Attcr range
Get a Meopta Optika 6 5-30x56 MRAD on sale for $699.99. It will blow you away compared to your Midas Tac. I'd rate it just behind the Tract Toric ELR but glass is close and also uses German Schott glass and the Meopta usually sells for $1260.
I have 3 Tract scopes. They more than do the job. Both in PRS & ELR shooting. Customer service has been a 10 out of 10. Tracking is spot on. They just flat out work for my old eyes.
excellent, thanks.
Good to hear they have good customer service. I’ve heard some S&B customers having problems with their CS.
@PrecisionRifleNetwork how does it co.pmare to top of line athlon
Tract Toric ELR is better quality slightly better glass according to my own eyes and all moving parts and controls feel smoother and includes a matching sunshade and at least press fit lens covers while the Athlon Cronus BTR UHD doesn't even include a sunshade not anything to protect the lenses.
If they're the same price with neither having a sale, buy the Tract Toric ELR unless you can buy the Cronus BTR UHD for at least $200-$300 cheaper.
Another thing I noticed is my Cronus BTR UHD illuminated reticle only lights up half of one side while the other half is noticeably dimmer. The Tract Toric ELR has a perfect consistent illumination brightness throughout the entire reticle as it should be. The Athlon looked like an old Chinese Hawke Sidewinder scope that only half of one side of the reticle lit up when illumination was turned on. I've seen a UA-cam review with a newer Cronus BTR UHD with new style reticle light up bolder on half of one side similar to mine but his wasn't quite as bad.
Being as it is a bit of a PITA to order a scope direct from US to Cda, and having to buy sight unseen, it was a long process to work up the decision to order one, but, I did it, and it was well worth it now that I've used it a bit. Tract made it easy too, great instructions on what needed to be done to get one to Cda. Think I made the right choice, it has lived up to their word on it. I have a Delta as well, great scope, Tract's turrets are a hair better feel, Delta has a turn indicator which I like better, reticles are both very useable. Hard to go wrong on the LOW chassis based scopes, just a matter of what options you like.
I had the opportunity to use this scope for the covid match. I really enjoyed it. It took some time to get used to a large elevation knob. Overall I agree with your great review. Thank for putting it together.
Cool. Thanks for watching.
Great Review !
Thank you sir
Always appreciate your "straighforward" reviews
Awesome. Thanks for watching!
Just got one last month and the glass is very clear and the torets is spot on! Very good glass that's all I can say..I've shot Nikon Glass on my DSLR before and this guy's glass is 👏
cool. thanks for letting us know.
These are becoming more popular. The owner Jon is very responsive. Best customer service which is another positive.
Absolutely! Great guy! I had a few questions and got back to me within about 5 minutes! Several conversations later and I jumped in! And am I glad I did! They’ll have my business a lot more in the future!👍👍
$1600 was a bit more than I wanted to spend but I found a lightly used 4-20x50 model for just over a grand on the Hide. I've shot about a half-dozen local PRS matches with it now. I really like this scope for pretty much all of the same reasons you mentioned. The reticle is really quick and easy to use when under time pressure. The turrets are probably my favorite part. There is no mushy feeling and all of the hash marks line up perfectly. Thanks for the review.
you're welcome. thanks for the update on your scope.
Great Scope.Awesome Company.Nice Owner
Frankly I was a little worried when you ran a commercial for the scope manufacturer. But it seemed like you gave a fairly unbiased review. Thanks
Thanks for saying that. I try my best to be as transparent as possible. Sometimes it's difficult when it comes down to sharing what amounts to my opinion on a product. The next guy could come along with his opinion and tell you the scope is junk.
I like to see you give review of the valdada record G2
Love your reviews, been watching some time and you are very honest.. you actually test and use 👍😊🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
Great review, it's nice having the optic options we have now!
Thanks. Agree completely.
I use a first focal plane scope on a air rifle. Find your target on low power then turn it up to see your cross hairs works great on ground squirrels.
This looks like a nice scope, and this is my first introduction to Tract. I wish them well in making some in roads into what seems like a market that has a ridiculous amount of great options. I have several scopes of 30x scopes on my ELR rigs. I really like the 30x at 300 yds shooting at splatter targets.
Great informative video brotha. Deciding between this, Leupold mark5hd and vortex razor HD Gen ii. Really appreciate the honest info
You're welcome. Thanks for watching. That would be a tough choice by the way.
This is my 2nd favorite optic behind the IOR valdada lineup.
Cool. Thanks for watching.
Sounds good I watch a lot of reviews on this scope because I’m fixin to get one or two
Cool. You will like it.
Thanks Joel great video
yep. thanks for watching.
If you had to choose between the Tract ELR 4.5-30 or the Burris XTR3 5.5-30 which one would you choose?
Thank you for the reviews always top notch!
Tract. The glass is way clearer and brighter.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thank you for the input and response. It's really helpful.
Granted the price difference will impact your answer, how would you compare the Tract Toric to the Leopold Mark 5? Upper magnication models. Need to shave some cost from my build to get it done.
Honestly glass quality is close, with the edge going to the MK5. Turrets-MK5 all the way.
Reticle choices-MK5.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork thanks for responding! Subscriber.
@@jwschroeder804 I appreciate that. Thanks!
Well isn’t this targeted for ELD? It is nice to see your poi down range without having to use a separate spotting scope. Also that you can follow the bullet trace with this high magnification. For the price having tier 1 Schott glass with minimal aberrations, directly competes with my Schmidt Bender 3-20 Ultrashort. I see the reticle has a center dot that is illuminated. Is that dot daytime bright? From my Ultrashort’s low profile turrets to the very high turret of this Toric is a big difference. My S&B did cost double of this scope. I do want to buy it for it’s extended range and I’ll probably end up buying this. Thanks for your honest review with waiting to do this with your extensive use of it.
Thanks for watching sir!
Tract is awesome scope great review
Thanks
At a minimum, their reticle is pretty nice.
hi, thanx for the report: I never heard about this scopes manufacturer. Where is it made ? how much does it run on retail market..? thank you for yr answer
Have you checked out the UHD 4-20×50 by them yet?? I ended up ordering one because you can't find a single negative review about them and for the money I had to see it for myself. I also figured worst case scenario I could return or sell it if it didn't live up to the hype but I've got a pretty good feeling it will because again I can't find anything bad being said about that optic ...
I have not seen that one yet. suppose I should reach out to them and get one on order for review. thanks.
They are just as nice as the 4.5-30x56 but the 4-20x50 only has 65moa of total elevation travel and is heavier than many scopes on its power range which are the only negatives I can comment on after having two of them and then a 4.5-30x56 which I like a lot better.
I have both scopes and my 4-20 is on my Bergara B-14 R .22 lr. The ELR is on my MPA Curtis Axiom. I also have their 1-8x 42 and their 4-16x44. Plus the 10x50 binoculars. Every one worth every penny. It was hard to drop serious coin on a scope sight unseen but the 30 day return covers that if you don’t like it when you get it. The 4-20 was the first one I bought so at $1300 I was a little skittish but I saw so many reviews I decided to give Tract a chance and now they’re my go to
Value your opinion and curious what you think. I have a Tikka UPR 6.5 that I’m going to use as crossover rifle (Hunt/Long/PRS). I have a 2k Budget (Retired military discount in effect) I have been heavily leaning towards a Mark5 (light weight, pay premium to get illumination) Tremor 3 illuminated, because it’s their only illuminated reticle that would work for the this. The other is an Element Nexus (Lighter, better FOV, but non locking turrets and less mag.) Now I’m look at this Tract Toric (heavy weight, but has everything else). Kind of stuck and wanted your thoughts or if you know of other options you would recommend in my price range?
Hi. Thanks for watching sir! The Mark5 is a great choice of course, but I don’t think you have to spend that kind of money for a quality optic. Tract Toric is a good option. Brownells MPO is a good option at $999, although it’s non-illuminated. I’m a fan of the Vortex Viper PST Gen2 as well. It’s around $1000.
The difference between the Vortex or Brownells glass and the Leupold is pretty noticeable however.
You may be able to find a used Vortex Razor HD Gen2 or used Nightforce NXS for less than 2k on sites like Sniper’s Hide.
Good luck on your quest. 👊
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Which glass would you say is better when talking the vortex, leupold, brownells, tract? I’m looking at MK5 5-25 TREMOR 3 illuminated with rings sun shade, covers for around $2200, or the Tract 4.5-30 for around $1700....which would you pick in that scenario?
@@larrymayfield2142 If I had one word to describe the glass in the Leupold Mk5 is would be "bright." It just has a clear almost high def feel to it. The Tract is very close and I would say almost identical in terms of contrast, clarity, features, etc. I personally don't think there's an extra $500 worth of value in the Leupold socpe, but there's also something to be said for a larger, more established company with a good name like Leupold. The only real personal preference issue that I see is that the Tract has very tall turrets. I personally don't care for that. On tight barricades in PRS comps, those things will get beat up. The mk5 has lower profile turrets. My 2 cents sir.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Thank you sir for the amazing replies!
The Element Nexus is most certainly not worth $1500 not for a 5-20x. The Tract Toric has hands down no question superior glass and turrets there's no comparison.
Looking at their moa model. I like the specs I see. Thoughts on durability on a higher recoil gun? I bought a 338 Lapua Magnum and I am looking for a bit more magnification than the current optic with stops at 15x. I love my Nightforce but to get a ffp with higher magnification is $2500+ from them.
You won't have issues with durability. These are made to handle it.
Element nexus 5-20-50 stainless steel turrets. Bingo 1500 bucks made same factory as Nightforce. Call it a winner winner chicken dinner.
I have the big tract on a 375 cheytac and a 338 snipetac. Both heavy guns. The scopes both have taken everything without issue. They also offer a pretty nice discount for LE/Mil.
I have mine on a 300 PRC and have had No issues at at.Its a great scope.
I prefer my Nightforce NX8 and cheaper $1294 Tract Toric 4-20x50 over the Element Nexus IMHO the Element isn't worth $1500 it's only a 5-20x scope and to me, it's an upside down negative value for your money.
Scope is great over 1000yds but i agree its hard to see the retical unless your zoom in, or put alumination on. If you aluminat this retical its no problem at low power 4.5 power no problem and i have really bad eyes..
That is most ffp scopes hard to see on low power
Ok, what optics are "perfection"?
Not sure exactly what you’re asking, Zero Compromise and Tangent Theta are two of the best.
You think i should get the 4-20x50 for hunting?
I think it would be a great choice.
I have the 4X20X50 and I have no problems using it for hunting.
Tract has much cheaper options without sacrificing image quality that are lighter in weight for hunting too that are also made in Japan.
Is it better than a mk5 hd
“Better than” is hard to define. It’s definitely on par with it in a lot of ways.
How does this compare to Arken SH4 gen2?
They are in the same league as each other, but i think i would choose the glass on the Tract.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Just announced, Arken EP5 5-25x56mm. We’ll see how the Japanese ED glass compares now 😂.
@@bovver6092 I ordered the ep5 I've got my fingers crossed
The EP5 glass isn't very good when compared to the Tract Toric. The Toric is at least 2 or 3 levels higher in glass quality than the EP5 which isn't sharp at 25x and starts to lose image quality after 20x.
The SH4 is not in the same class as the Tract Toric. It's like comparing a Ford to a Lexus. More like (Name of a cheap Chinese car) to a Lexus.
I don't get why you would as low as 4x ?
Reformulate question ...
Are you basically saying there’s no use for that low power setting? Ever? In any situation?
I might agree on a scope like this that’s designed for long range.
On the other hand, a 1-6x or a 3-9x can be very useful in certain roles.
@@fjb4932 I thought 4x was low for a long range scope. But I guess a lot of scopes are 4.5x ect...... one being 7x on the low end. I can see getting a wider field of view at low power, But my scopes are a straight 20x (SWFA) so I dont really miss it.
At 4x it gives you a wide field of view to see your target’s surroundings.
Did you purchase this optic with your own money? Buy a spotting scope.
Evidently, you have never hunted prairie dogs at 600 plus yards, you will use the 30x.....
Still out of my price range
There are a ton of good scopes on the market. I’m sure you’ll find something.
@@PrecisionRifleNetwork Same here. I don't get why people are paying the high price for these scopes. Manfactures like Nightforce, Leupold, Zeiss, ect. been making high power , long range scopes for years, Then these " companies " come out of nowhere wanting the same prices $, and getting it !
@@mtnshooter2487 - I've noticed alot of "new" companies started up recently also, but from my experience the owners have worked for a known "brand" name for years, learned the business and now started their own business. You'll find alot of that today
Guys check arken scopes
@@albertogallego5632 I will be doing a review on the Arken soon.
Quit watching at 4:23 “$1,600.00 optic”. That’s out of my price range.
Kinda wish that you would have lead off with that. “It’s a 4.5-30...... $1,600 msrp”
each to their own I guess. That's considered a mid-range optic price wise for many folks in the PRS. Thanks for watching.
I mean, I bought a barely used toric uhd 4-20 on snipershide for $750, you just need to look...a lot
Tract makes a great product. But I’m tired of brass turrets from know on it’s stainless steel turrets or nothing. Element optics. Nexus-helix-Titan I’m not knocking Tract optics. I’m knocking BRASS IS A SOFT METAL. Ck element optics. 2 years of reaching scopes that’s my conclusion just an opinion. But proven.
Thanks for watching and commenting sir. Just a word of warning...if I think you are spamming another product on my page, I'll delete your messages. One comment here was enough...you posted three. Just making sure.
Among myself and 4 shooting buddies don't think Element Optics have enough value for the dollar when we all compared from Helix to Titan to Nexus lines compared them all side by side with other brands available among the 5 of our collection of scopes in their respective price points. Element Optics appeared to offer an overall negative value for the dollar for what you actually get in all 3 of their lines. There are better options from other brands for the same prices if not cheaper. #1 most disappointing was the $799 Titan then the #2 disappointment was the $1499 Nexus and $459 Helix. We tried them all. These disappointments were solely based on price for what we got.
If the Nexus was prices at $900 it would probably be worth it IMHO for a 5-20x50 30mm scope. Does yours have purple fringing at 20x?
You know if you stop blabbering so much you can put out a lot of info in a short amount of time.
Move along then. Don’t need the negativity here.