beauty of this is how you can have one SBR stamp in nearly any caliber you want. get one stamp on regular AR-15 Lower, then you can run .223, .300 BLK, or with the Stern adapters you can use 9mm, .40 or .45. really cool
The Drake or you could hypothetically 1) buy a mil spec AR15 lower 2) barrel it first with a < 16” barrel and a pistol brace 3) take a picture of your setup with a newspaper to establish the date the pistol (your lower) was born. Then, you could either shoot that lower with a stock on it and a > 16” barrel or remove the stock, put a < 16” barrel on the lower and fire it with or without a brace (and you can switch the setup back and forth as long as you never have intent to construct an illegal SBR). You must make sure to never stock the lower with a < 16” barrel or else you will have illegally created a SBR.
That actually makes sense. Because if each state started passing laws that are in direct violation of the NFA, then the feds might be forced to get rid of it.
@@methodical_66 I just put mine together and I had to remove the ramp on the conversion block because it interfered with the ramp on my barrel. But other than that little issue it runs flawless. Oh and I run a 10oz buffer with a ar10 spring
Just had to drop you a line and let you know. My adult son and I was watching your videos the other night and he made the comment that you remind him of "Cousin Eddie" from the 80's movie "Vacation". After I started watching some other of your videos, I can see it clearly. It's definitely meant to be a complement! Keep up the great videos!!!
@@noluckpureskill9985 The problem is, the culture is moving away from the "SHALL NOT", "come and take it from my cold dead hands" type folks. Culture is moving to a point where a majority of Americans don't support the 2nd. I really fear for the state of the 2nd.
@Cody Melvin Im not some full fledged conspiracy theorist but sometimes I feel like there are some kind of powerful leftists behind these shootings for exactly that purpose.
I have a conversion block from another company for the exact reason you stated. I already had a pistol lower and thought it would be more convenient. Reality for the price on the conversion block I could have bought the dedicated stripped lower and built it out over time. I would have rather went that route. It never fails that I have the wrong upper on the lower for the shooting I want to do
my upper is on its way i doing the same thing with my 556 ar ... great idea and the 22lr conversion kit is coming too... just spent $800 on ammo for a family outing to do some fun bbq and target shooting
Put mine in a build with a four inch barrel (smallest I could find) and a law tactical folder. Slides right in my small backpack, shares mags with my concealed carry Glock, and nobody knows anything. God bless America! 🇺🇸
@@Turtl-ss4lj Who said anything about registering anything? Lolol And if for some reason you are one of those crazy kids that has to ask the government for permission to exercise your rights, you can put a pistol brace on it
Geraldine B spoken like someone who doesn’t have run ins with cops often. Last time I got pulled over, I spent two hours in handcuffs in the back of a patrol car because the cop didn’t know the law, or how to read a concealed carry permit. Time before that, I got pulled over while walking down the side of the road. Last speeding ticket I received was for going 66 in a 60. Yes, I understand my rights, but when you’re on a dark road, alone, and surrounded by three people (cops) with guns drawn on you, you do what you need to do and say what you need to say to survive the encounter. If you think that I’m stuffing my walk around backpack with an unregistered sbr in this day and age, you’ve gone full retard. Never go full retard.
I have a Stern Defense 9 mm upper with the mag adapter for the Glock. It runs very well and is lots of fun the only problem I ran into is that it does not group very well at all even with heavier grain ammunition. The best grouping that you can get out of it at 50 yards or less is around 8 or 10 inch larger. I wrote the company and they suggested that I go up to a heavier grain I was using 147 and still it wouldn't group anything smaller than 8 in
BufordT2323 from what I understand they will still sell rifle ammo just not rounds like 223 556 7.62×39 and so on. You will still be able to get rounds like 22-250 or 30-30 4570 and such
I have both a Stern 9mm Glock adapter and their 45 ACP M&P adapter. If I could find more M&P magazines I would have gone with the M&P 9mm. Both adapter are working well and I actually prefer to shoot the 45 acp but I use my 9mm + Obisdian 9 (short config) in the local 2 gun match more often since 45 ACP at 100+ yards is more like Volley Fire.
Sounds almost exactly like my build. What length barrel? What buffer and spring combo? I appreciate any advice you can provide. I went with an 8.5” barrel
I'm in the process of building a AR9 using the stern conversion block. The bolt hold open feature sold me over the Sylvan model without the bolt hold open. Thou the Sylan mag release seemed to be in a better placement.
I don't know if the latest youtube restrictions allow firearms disassembly/assembly, but it would be useful to see the insert and the steps needed to install in the lower.
Meltdown, Yes! I'm curious to see if the bolt catch holds up, as mine sheered off after about 400 rounds. There seems to be extra stress on the bolt catch on the last round hold open.
@William Beedy Any updates regarding your Stern Upper? I'm considering buying one and would like to know if you've run into any issues? Malfunctions? Broken Parts?
Awesome video! I love the fun switch! I have one of those stern defense conversions and it works great I've never had any issues with it. I bought it before Foxtrot Mike's dedicated lower receivers were out and I wanted something that had a LRBHO that actually worked because as we all know none of the others were worth buying! I've been very happy with mine and it's a great option for guys that don't want to have a dedicated 9mm lower. In my opinion it is probably the best pcc conversion on the market.
Awesome, I was looking at one of these for a lower I have sitting around with no clue what to due with it. Starting to think i need a 9mm ar pistol soon heh
I use mean arms endo mags for my 9mm ar, they are a 9mm conversion for pmags so you can still use a regular ar lower and have the same manual of arms as you're used to. I have put about 1k rounds between my three mags so far and have not had a single issue with them.
Love the vids guyz. One problem for me though,it’s very hard to obtain a FFL. Still,love the info you both put out. Keep up the good work and the FIGHT as well...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I tested the Norma Envy through a CMMG Banshee upper and found it performed no better than the cheap S&B 115gr 9mm. Edit...No better for accuracy at 25 and 50 yards from bench rest on a concrete table.
Mike Driggers, as if another one was needed. It’s been over four years since they’ve gotten so much as one red cent from me. The kicker for me was when my daughters choir (HS) was kicked out of their store for singing Christmas carols.
That is true but with the Stern you gain the ability to put it on an SBR lower thus being able to run an SBR on one lower using all available calibers.
Yeah but you still technically have to tell the ATF if you are going to be shooting different calibers and can't change OAL. For example you can't have a 10.5" 556 SBR and then put your 8.5" Stern 45 upper on it. You also can't say Multi under caliber when you SBR a lower. At least that's my understanding.
I don’t think any of that is true but with how the atf changes their mind I could be wrong. What I do know is that using a pistol lower I can switch between my 9mm, 5.56, .300 BO, and 6.5 Grendel uppers and not worry about any of it.
@@HOLT4415 not true, the ATF wants to know the original intended configuration of the SBR on your form one. There's no restriction on changing caliber or length once the lower has been registered and engraved.
I just bought this upper in the 10 1/2” barrel length. Great informative video! Really gives me confidence, that I bought the right one. Which buffer and spring are you using? I ordered a 6.5oz 9mm buffer, with a .308 spring. I would appreciate your opinion’s and advice. I will be running a Rugged Obsidian 9 can. I haven’t received mine yet, and, I’ve already e-filed a form 1.
I'm not clear on something. I have a Stern conversion unit I run in various lowers I've built, and a toolbag full of Glock 31/KCI 33 round mags, and a smattering of Glock 17 pistol mags. I thought it would run ONLY mags for the Glock. Am I also able to stick Sig, S&W, another mags as well? If so, then I'm really in pig heaven! One thing that was not included in the video and should be added. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CLOSE THE BOLT WITH THE RELEASE BUTTON WHEN AN EMPTY MAGAZINE IS IN THE MAG WELL. It will damage the Stern unit -- if you're strong enough to press the lever. If you feel the need to use the bolt release lever to close the action, just don't do it with an empty magazine in place!
I've used one of these for a few years I really don't mind the bottom mag release although it is pricey I managed to build my AR 9 for about the same price as a full one
Yeah, I literally just bought one this weekend, should be here within the next couple days. Definitely not cheap, but for what a dedicated pistol lower costs, it’s not that bad. Basically $220 for this and a stripped lower versus about $180 for a stripped pistol lower isn’t that much of a hit, and this way you get the flexibility of switching calibers on different setups: sbrs, pistols, etc. So saving the cost of just one tax stamp pays for itself.
FYI. Pre-ban Glock 17 Mags will NOT fit this unless you do some shaving on certain areas of the mag. They will be tight when inserting a full mag but drop free when empty. See STERN for where to make these adjustments.
So I'm new to the rifle conversion scene. When converting with this, do you just need a new bolt carrier group and barrel? Bc that looks like a normal upper, idk I'm really green with this sorta stuff
Key components are caliber specific glock cut bolt and caliber specific barrel; most people just get a new complete upper and use the take down pins for easy transition
How is the Griffin Revolution 9? Also how was the can mounted to the barrel (DT, 3 lug, etc)? Looking for my first can for a build using the Stern Defense adapter and I'm digging this one!
I personally went with a KAK magazine block for my 9mm build. colt magazines. my muscle memory has me hitting mag release. I wouldnt be able to get used to the stern block.
beauty of this is how you can have one SBR stamp in nearly any caliber you want. get one stamp on regular AR-15 Lower, then you can run .223, .300 BLK, or with the Stern adapters you can use 9mm, .40 or .45. really cool
The Drake or you could hypothetically 1) buy a mil spec AR15 lower 2) barrel it first with a < 16” barrel and a pistol brace 3) take a picture of your setup with a newspaper to establish the date the pistol (your lower) was born. Then, you could either shoot that lower with a stock on it and a > 16” barrel or remove the stock, put a < 16” barrel on the lower and fire it with or without a brace (and you can switch the setup back and forth as long as you never have intent to construct an illegal SBR). You must make sure to never stock the lower with a < 16” barrel or else you will have illegally created a SBR.
Yeah ... I don't know why I need that, I just know I do. 👍
😉
Just finished mine. Awesome reliable product
We really need to start giving the finger to the NFA on the state level.
That actually makes sense. Because if each state started passing laws that are in direct violation of the NFA, then the feds might be forced to get rid of it.
Missouri :-)
Just built a 45acp ar pistol with a 4 inch barrel and this setup..freakin love it!
I purchased my first gun, glock 26, from Moss Pawn Shop about 3 years ago. Thank y'all for all the videos!
I am really happy with my Stern Defense upper and mag well adapter.
@LincolnH1224
Have you had any problems with your Stern Defense upper or Magwell adapter? What buffer are you running?
@@methodical_66 I just put mine together and I had to remove the ramp on the conversion block because it interfered with the ramp on my barrel. But other than that little issue it runs flawless. Oh and I run a 10oz buffer with a ar10 spring
Just had to drop you a line and let you know. My adult son and I was watching your videos the other night and he made the comment that you remind him of "Cousin Eddie" from the 80's movie "Vacation". After I started watching some other of your videos, I can see it clearly. It's definitely meant to be a complement! Keep up the great videos!!!
Sody pops sounds like something Eddie would say
Thanks for the review, I’ve been looking at the stern setup for like three years now and I am going to give it a try now that I see it works so well.
I LOVE my stern mag adapter, just picked up some 32rnd m&p mags to run in it
00:30 I saw you reach for that mag release
Lol
been waiting for someone to showcase this
Better get that meltdown episode done before congress takes it away!
Let em try....
@@noluckpureskill9985 The problem is, the culture is moving away from the "SHALL NOT", "come and take it from my cold dead hands" type folks. Culture is moving to a point where a majority of Americans don't support the 2nd. I really fear for the state of the 2nd.
Peter Yi Im I'm thinking secession is on the horizon. Especially with democrats trying to abolish the electoral college.
@NinjaRider777R meme
@Cody Melvin Im not some full fledged conspiracy theorist but sometimes I feel like there are some kind of powerful leftists behind these shootings for exactly that purpose.
I love my stern defense conversion. Even takes my my 50 rnd glock drum mag and runs through it nice.
What buffer and spring are you using? What length barrel, as well?
I have a conversion block from another company for the exact reason you stated. I already had a pistol lower and thought it would be more convenient. Reality for the price on the conversion block I could have bought the dedicated stripped lower and built it out over time. I would have rather went that route. It never fails that I have the wrong upper on the lower for the shooting I want to do
Appreciate y’all from Texas
I ordered a stern defense magwell adaptor Glock version in June, and a foxtrot mike 9mm upper to match it, works flawless zero complaints
Jack Hoff78 I just built up my Fm-9 with stern glock mag adapter today.
@Jack Hoff78
Any updates on your Foxtrot Mike upper and Stern Defense magwell adapter? Any issues? Broken parts? Etc
Pretty cool little setup.
I love my Stern conversion set up. Go ahead and melt it down !
Cheers Eric. Really enjoy your vids. Full of knowledge and entertainment.
my upper is on its way i doing the same thing with my 556 ar ... great idea and the 22lr conversion kit is coming too... just spent $800 on ammo for a family outing to do some fun bbq and target shooting
Put mine in a build with a four inch barrel (smallest I could find) and a law tactical folder. Slides right in my small backpack, shares mags with my concealed carry Glock, and nobody knows anything. God bless America! 🇺🇸
Lmao I came halfway through the sentence
You should switch that to a deadfoot arms folder. That way you can fire from the folded position
Geraldine B why would I want to register it as an sbr just so I can inaccurately fire it a half a second faster? Lol
@@Turtl-ss4lj Who said anything about registering anything? Lolol And if for some reason you are one of those crazy kids that has to ask the government for permission to exercise your rights, you can put a pistol brace on it
Geraldine B spoken like someone who doesn’t have run ins with cops often. Last time I got pulled over, I spent two hours in handcuffs in the back of a patrol car because the cop didn’t know the law, or how to read a concealed carry permit. Time before that, I got pulled over while walking down the side of the road. Last speeding ticket I received was for going 66 in a 60. Yes, I understand my rights, but when you’re on a dark road, alone, and surrounded by three people (cops) with guns drawn on you, you do what you need to do and say what you need to say to survive the encounter. If you think that I’m stuffing my walk around backpack with an unregistered sbr in this day and age, you’ve gone full retard. Never go full retard.
Awesome! Got to get me a 9mm set up like that! Sweet.
Best Channel on the web, PERIOD!
I have that conversion from SD and love it.
Love the smoking can ....made my day
I have a Stern Defense 9 mm upper with the mag adapter for the Glock. It runs very well and is lots of fun the only problem I ran into is that it does not group very well at all even with heavier grain ammunition. The best grouping that you can get out of it at 50 yards or less is around 8 or 10 inch larger. I wrote the company and they suggested that I go up to a heavier grain I was using 147 and still it wouldn't group anything smaller than 8 in
@Sean jackson
In the video he looked like he was grouping well. Any updates since this post of yours? Or do you still have the same issue?
"she's getting warm boys & girls" - LOL!!!
9mmとは思えない反動と、ライフルのような命中制度は凄いですね👍
😉😘😊
Dang. Thought we would get a boycott Walmart Gungripes today🙁
What dis they do?
Banned open carry in their stores. And they will no longer sell handgun and rifle ammo.
BufordT2323 from what I understand they will still sell rifle ammo just not rounds like 223 556 7.62×39 and so on. You will still be able to get rounds like 22-250 or 30-30 4570 and such
@@bowlofrice8 .223 / 5.56 is a very popular hunting rifle round.
Cool. I've never been this early on a video. I'm in the market for a pcc. I'm glad this video actually popped up.
I have both a Stern 9mm Glock adapter and their 45 ACP M&P adapter. If I could find more M&P magazines I would have gone with the M&P 9mm. Both adapter are working well and I actually prefer to shoot the 45 acp but I use my 9mm + Obisdian 9 (short config) in the local 2 gun match more often since 45 ACP at 100+ yards is more like Volley Fire.
Sounds almost exactly like my build. What length barrel? What buffer and spring combo? I appreciate any advice you can provide. I went with an 8.5” barrel
I’ve been seeing these kits all over the place and have been wondering about it.
I'm in the process of building a AR9 using the stern conversion block. The bolt hold open feature sold me over the Sylvan model without the bolt hold open. Thou the Sylan mag release seemed to be in a better placement.
I don't know if the latest youtube restrictions allow firearms disassembly/assembly, but it would be useful to see the insert and the steps needed to install in the lower.
Meltdown, Yes! I'm curious to see if the bolt catch holds up, as mine sheered off after about 400 rounds. There seems to be extra stress on the bolt catch on the last round hold open.
I have had this stern for six months, I have had no problems . I run all Glock mags, the 33 round fun stick is the best.
@William Beedy
Any updates regarding your Stern Upper? I'm considering buying one and would like to know if you've run into any issues? Malfunctions? Broken Parts?
Good to know! Which buffer and spring are you using?
Tip: If you don’t like the look of Glock mags in a ar 9, use the curved Glock mags.
Just ordered one!
Where from?
🤔
@@saintalfonzo999 stern defense website. 15% off
That looks awesome and fun!
Can you guys please do a top5 video on .9mm carbines please
They did one a couple years ago.
Darkraven an updated one would be nice!!!
Excellent upload. Thanks Battle.
Awesome video! I love the fun switch! I have one of those stern defense conversions and it works great I've never had any issues with it. I bought it before Foxtrot Mike's dedicated lower receivers were out and I wanted something that had a LRBHO that actually worked because as we all know none of the others were worth buying! I've been very happy with mine and it's a great option for guys that don't want to have a dedicated 9mm lower. In my opinion it is probably the best pcc conversion on the market.
That looks like a lot of fun. 👍
I need this in my life.
I would kill for a new meltdown video😂
This would be a perfect meltdown vid... Suppressor and all.
Absolutely.
I really enjoy all your videos..... I'll buy a T shirt or man can just to help out and to make sure I get to keep watching
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I been wanting someone big to review this
Was just checking out the rattler 300 blackout, this look reminds me of it.
Awesome, I was looking at one of these for a lower I have sitting around with no clue what to due with it. Starting to think i need a 9mm ar pistol soon heh
I use mean arms endo mags for my 9mm ar, they are a 9mm conversion for pmags so you can still use a regular ar lower and have the same manual of arms as you're used to. I have put about 1k rounds between my three mags so far and have not had a single issue with them.
@@heavyasfuc2182 what upper are you running?
That upper sounds like a good pick up
Very Cool AR pistol 9mm Eric !!!!!!!!
Love the vids guyz. One problem for me though,it’s very hard to obtain a FFL. Still,love the info you both put out. Keep up the good work and the FIGHT as well...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Please do more meltdown videos!!!
Sweet! I want one!!!
I tested the Norma Envy through a CMMG Banshee upper and found it performed no better than the cheap S&B 115gr 9mm.
Edit...No better for accuracy at 25 and 50 yards from bench rest on a concrete table.
But it's mAtCH GrADe! 🤣
Adam Turnbull right :), like some of the match grade ammo that’s 3 MOA or worse from my .308 AR-10 at 50 yds while other ammo is better than 1 MOA.
The conversion kit is sitting in my cart, waiting for an excuse to hit checkout.
I like the idea but I personally prefer a dedicated lower AR9 platform, you can’t ever have too many lowers IMO
WHAT A GREAT VIDEO!
Bolt hold open with glock factory mags and ETS mags work well. Magpul glock mags do not hold open. The Magpul follower is just a bit different.
I like the trigger
Make a wish boys...
Christmas 2019 is going to be LIT...
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Walmart announced it has quit stocking and will quit selling handgun and some rifle caliber ammo as of yesterday
maverick357
One less reason to go to Walmart .
Their CEO has also been petitioning Congress to reinstate the AWB.
Mike Driggers, as if another one was needed. It’s been over four years since they’ve gotten so much as one red cent from me. The kicker for me was when my daughters choir (HS) was kicked out of their store for singing Christmas carols.
Guns & Gadgets discovered that WalMart was working with one of bloombergs gun control groups.
That thing is sweet
Yes, Meltdown video please 😁😁😁
MELTDOWN = Thumbs up
MELTDOWN!!! Please!
Oh Yeah!
I like it !
I’d take two to go!
It's a neat unit but for the price of a conversion kit with an Upper and Magwell adapter you can buy/build a whole new gun.
That is true but with the Stern you gain the ability to put it on an SBR lower thus being able to run an SBR on one lower using all available calibers.
Yeah but you still technically have to tell the ATF if you are going to be shooting different calibers and can't change OAL. For example you can't have a 10.5" 556 SBR and then put your 8.5" Stern 45 upper on it. You also can't say Multi under caliber when you SBR a lower. At least that's my understanding.
I don’t think any of that is true but with how the atf changes their mind I could be wrong. What I do know is that using a pistol lower I can switch between my 9mm, 5.56, .300 BO, and 6.5 Grendel uppers and not worry about any of it.
@@HOLT4415 not true, the ATF wants to know the original intended configuration of the SBR on your form one. There's no restriction on changing caliber or length once the lower has been registered and engraved.
Loved it !!! Thanks
I just bought this upper in the 10 1/2” barrel length. Great informative video! Really gives me confidence, that I bought the right one. Which buffer and spring are you using? I ordered a 6.5oz 9mm buffer, with a .308 spring. I would appreciate your opinion’s and advice. I will be running a Rugged Obsidian 9 can. I haven’t received mine yet, and, I’ve already e-filed a form 1.
I love my CMMG RDB upper and Endomags.
Eric, you have a good problem there. Cleaning a dirty gun with a giggle switch.... 👀👍🏻✔️🏁🇺🇸
Eric you rule. From new Zealand
I'm not clear on something. I have a Stern conversion unit I run in various lowers I've built, and a toolbag full of Glock 31/KCI 33 round mags, and a smattering of Glock 17 pistol mags. I thought it would run ONLY mags for the Glock. Am I also able to stick Sig, S&W, another mags as well? If so, then I'm really in pig heaven! One thing that was not included in the video and should be added. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CLOSE THE BOLT WITH THE RELEASE BUTTON WHEN AN EMPTY MAGAZINE IS IN THE MAG WELL. It will damage the Stern unit -- if you're strong enough to press the lever. If you feel the need to use the bolt release lever to close the action, just don't do it with an empty magazine in place!
Great review
no ear muffs? Are you sure that's suppressed?
awesome gun awesome vid 👍🏼
Yeah !!! I gots ta get me one a those !!!!
Thanks!
I've used one of these for a few years I really don't mind the bottom mag release although it is pricey I managed to build my AR 9 for about the same price as a full one
Yeah, I literally just bought one this weekend, should be here within the next couple days. Definitely not cheap, but for what a dedicated pistol lower costs, it’s not that bad. Basically $220 for this and a stripped lower versus about $180 for a stripped pistol lower isn’t that much of a hit, and this way you get the flexibility of switching calibers on different setups: sbrs, pistols, etc. So saving the cost of just one tax stamp pays for itself.
You gotta kinda play with it and it only likes certain mags check thier website to see which ones it'll take
Teasing us with those 2 litres.
I got a 9mm upper and 45 upper from stern defense should have them Tuesday
I am looking at the 16" Fox Trot Mike 9mm Upper and the Stern Defense 16" 9mm Upper and not sure which one to buy. I appreciate any advice.
FYI. Pre-ban Glock 17 Mags will NOT fit this unless you do some shaving on certain areas of the mag. They will be tight when inserting a full mag but drop free when empty. See STERN for where to make these adjustments.
@iv8888 so the kit is just the magwell conversion and you slap on a different upper?
We recommend changing out your buffer weight to an H3 if you running 9mm.
So I'm new to the rifle conversion scene. When converting with this, do you just need a new bolt carrier group and barrel? Bc that looks like a normal upper, idk I'm really green with this sorta stuff
Key components are caliber specific glock cut bolt and caliber specific barrel; most people just get a new complete upper and use the take down pins for easy transition
That’s a big softball.
Still a good group imo.
Yep mine is stovepiping alot testing it more this weekend
Change your buffer weight and spring bolt moving to fast
How is the Griffin Revolution 9? Also how was the can mounted to the barrel (DT, 3 lug, etc)? Looking for my first can for a build using the Stern Defense adapter and I'm digging this one!
Pleeeease do a meltdown!
You should do a hk416 meltdown
I can really hear the reset on that trigger.
I personally went with a KAK magazine block for my 9mm build. colt magazines. my muscle memory has me hitting mag release. I wouldnt be able to get used to the stern block.
All that Gas!
I would LOVE to have your job!!
I hate when ammo makers put data on the box but don't tell you what kind of gun or length of barrel they shot it out of.