God they are perfect together they fill the whole show with their chemistry and their dynamic is very funny and passionate at the same time I love them.
@@totallynotspongebob2495 Well shes a different creature all together. But the 1/3 of her thats a vamp. Is original vampire. So no i wouldnt consider her a different type of Original. There is only one type. The Original Family, Michaelson bloodline. She just also happens to be a wolf and first born michaelson witch
Think about it, The Originals drank a serum bound with the Doppelgänger’s blood, so Hope wasn’t just born with vampire blood in her system, She was also born with the Original serum in her system, thus she is an Original.
@@dinaramuratova1335 Not only Hope, there are also heretics,hybrids, Marcel,crescent wolves, Bonnie (psychic +witch) .There are also few people who have received power from Malivor. The supernatural world can be said to have evolved. This is the future.
@@Jolora1257 no she didn't😂 she threw a damn coffin after which Hope was fine and she didn't fight back, like the OP said, Hope is the most powerful character which is kinda why the show stars her like her dad, also the god girl was hurt by siphoning so even if she is a god, you're misinterpreting god as overpowered character that can do anything which is a reasonable belief but does not seem to be the case in legacies
@@OpinionatedZoomer69 exactly Lizzie literally siphon her like it was nothing, if Lizzie can do sum than hope can definitely can do way more than she can
Hope is an Original and not at the same time. The original term refers to vampires and hybrids, created through the spell of immortality, ie vampires and original hybrids. Already Hope she was born was not transformed by this spell. However, she is basically an original equivalent, mainly because she is the first of her kind and has basically the same powers.
@@dylanmoore6905 technically from a biological stand point if the only vampire DNA she got was from her dad (which it was) and all of klaus's vampire DNA was original vampire (which it was) then hope's vamp side is from original vampire DNA and thus biologically she is an original and not just an equivalent
Ok y’all need to clarify…hope is an original technically…but she’s not like her family she’s a natural born original…born with original vampire blood…she already had the strength of an original…it didn’t activate it until after her transition…
Yes she’s not an original per se but her vampiric nature is that of an original thanks to being born from one. She basically has all the original capabilities without being tied to Esther’s spell and all that jazz
She has double, even triple or more of the strength and abilities of her Original family, maybe even higher than her older brother Marcel. Hope is just wow. I wonder how insane her and Landon kids would be, god magic and all the abilities of the Tribrid.
All the people who tried to argue saying she isn't an Original tier Vampire just got btfo. Only Marcel at this point is at comparable power levels, and even then he'd probably get bodied by her OP witch powers. She is scary powerful right now.
Technically she's one 3rd original vampire but we knew that before episode 11 from when she compelled that triad vampire in the bar, but she's not an original vampire as in 1000+ years old and first of a sire line more so her vampirism side is equivalent in power to an original giving her all there abilities and since she was not made immortal by the white oak tree nature had to make a loophole and that's why red oak is the only thing that can kill her and not white oak
@@marwanali4878 nope.. Like every spell there's the basics.. Thanks to Divina Claire we know that sore bonds can be broken. It's not gonna be that difficult. And Lizzie can do a very good sneak attack.. Thanks to perfect gemini cloaking.. "Invusie" spell was a heretic special. And a sleep spell works on a witch too. Even if Hope can overwhelm the spell Lizzie can subdue her long enough to siphon her to the point of desiccation. The weakness of being a vampire.
@@Kevynmorgan Lizzies sneak attack would work on a normal vampire but the thing is hope is half wolf, she has heightened senses, she'd smell her, just as they did when Ethan would become invisible. Siphon can only siphon a certain amount of energy, regardless of that even if Lizzie tries to Siphon Hope then she can just as easily use a spell to deflect her
@@marwanali4878 so you know you can spell yourself to be silent and invisible literally definition of you can't perceive me coming. And sleep spell of snapping of the neck definitely work to put her out for hours.. Lizzie proved her can snap her neck.. It's all bout timing.. And siphoning to a point of dessiccation isn't difficult you guys don't understand that certain weakness a particular trait can still affect a hybrid or tribrid
Since Hope is apparently an Original or has original vampire blood at least then does that mean if she is able to have kids that her kid or kids will also have original vampire blood
@@nvk4057 yeah I know that original vampire can’t have kids you don’t need to insult me but I am asking if she was able to have kids that they would be tribrids or a tribrid and whatever their father is but I was asking would they have original vampire abilities like Hope does like compelling vampires or would their vampire sides be like regular vampires so basically can original vampire blood and abilities be passed down
@@FifthHarmony1234 ohh but see with hope I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t be able to have kids (if she doesn’t take the cure) because her witch and wolf sides died when she turned so she wouldn’t be able to have kids with supernaturals like werewolves or witches. And klaus was able to have kids because he was turned into a vamp before he activated his wolf curse so that part of him was alive when he activated it. But with hope her wolf and witch sides are dead.
if her witch an wolf side died wouldn't she not be able to do magic? and if it was actually dead wouldnt she just be an original born vampire that couldnt do magic an not a tribrid lol?
@DerekDoesDolls thats why I've been saying tho. The vampire that they sliced could still be alive right because his head is still attached to his upper part
non original vampires die from decapitations, severe hemicorporetecmy. , magic, fire, werewolf venom and more. non original hybrids die from all the things i said except stakes and others.
The rules about vampire deaths get really fuzzy 😅.. at first it was only Wood to the heart, then a really powerful witch, hybrids could be killed with decapatation (it was never explained if vampire could be to but assumably yes) and now cutting the BODY in half works too ? 😂
yeah they're vampires not gods lol. unless they're an original or original like being, Hope, any of sort lethal wound that you can't come back from like decaps, heart took out, burned, or split in half will end them.
The only reason why she can compel other vamps is cause her father is an original vampire that’s all. If her father was a normal vampire then she wouldn’t be able to
she's an Original in her own right, basically. Like Marcel is and Lucien and Alaric were, they are unbound vampires (or hybrid/tribrid) who start their own sirelines. Marcel was able to compel Elijah (because he was superior to him due to the level of his power if I remember right) and Alaric could compel normal vampires like Elena.
i thought the only ways to kill a vampire are: sunlight decapitation heart removal major damage inflicted on the heart with wood im pretty sure the vampire will still be alive after getting chopped in half just that he cant regenerate
You'd think with this season they are going to have to come up with another reason for why she doesn't show up. I don't think the Gemini things is an issue anymore.
@@ogilongnose1115 C'mon! Yeah maybe Caroline was a little cringe earlier seasons of TVD but she became great and mature when she had Josie and Lizzie, also both Lizzie and Caroline are amazing characters.
@@taylorswiftxbritneyspears2716 She didn't really mature. She thought she had a chance against Damon and alienated Stefan stupidly while also not considering the consequences or the situation.
Why is lizzie going around killing so freely? i was thinking, she isn't like that it's so out of character because her humanity is on. Yet hopes is off so we see a different side to her so it's confusing seeing lizzie so willing to shed blood when she freaks out about hurting any human being, unless she is threatened but even then she doesn't kill them. She backs them away or hurts them but not gruesomely murders them, this is expected of Hope no humanity but Lizzie despite being sired. Sometimes the show makes no sense, but it's cool I guess.
Ever since Alaric fell into a coma, Lizzie changed. After the therapy box, she accepted the dark side of herself. I mean, she wanted to kill Hope earlier on, brutally staking her hand before losing her nerves. Let's remember this: in season 2, Lizzie hated the thought of being a vampire and broke up with Sabastian for trying to turn her into one. In season 4, she finally accepted that she could be dark as she technically always was and to me, she's kind of stronger this way. I mean, only a dark minded person would drink vampire blood as a last resort. She was willing to become a vampire if anything happened, knowing the consequences. Then, Hope kills her and she becomes a Heretic(known as the most powerful and brutal vampires they are). I definitely expected her to have such wicked tendency.... Besides, these vampires killed an innocent's girl's sister. Lizzie was channeling her anger to do this with Hope. Technically, if Hope did not save her, she would have died as well. I'm thinking that broke every from of restraint she had left.
@@Astrlctrl I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just seeing a complete turn for her especially having Alaric as a father. She was always taught to not do certain things so I mean it is refreshing to see but it is very out of character for her.
@@utibeabasiokokonbassey6667 She didn't do it because she cares for hope and no matter how angry she is she won't do it, that is why it was so bizarre for her character to do. I was just surprised to see her do it, and I'm not saying it was wrong or right, It was just a little out of character. I'm wondering if they are referring to her as the next Caroline because they are doing some similar things like she is born to be a heretic or something, haha
I know it seems out of character and on some level it is. But, in this scene she's still lost without Josie and she was trying to prove herself worthy of Hope keeping the sire bond active. Plus, finding that they'd killed Luna's sister (which would trigger the memory of loss for Lizzie) and knowing there wouldn't be a way to just talk them out of what they'd been doing or hold them captive, Lizzie would have felt this was the right thing to do.
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God they are perfect together they fill the whole show with their chemistry and their dynamic is very funny and passionate at the same time I love them.
Finally they basically proved she IS AN ORIGINAL. Tired of argueing with people bout it
For real. Samee
Ion understand why people don’t wanna admit it 🤦🏽♂️
@@totallynotspongebob2495 Well shes a different creature all together. But the 1/3 of her thats a vamp. Is original vampire. So no i wouldnt consider her a different type of Original. There is only one type. The Original Family, Michaelson bloodline. She just also happens to be a wolf and first born michaelson witch
Think about it, The Originals drank a serum bound with the Doppelgänger’s blood, so Hope wasn’t just born with vampire blood in her system, She was also born with the Original serum in her system, thus she is an Original.
@@NoobMaster-fi2ho tbh think abt it, shes practically the only one whos naturally born a vampire
Hope had me weak when she said "THE FUTURE"
It was awesome
i didnt get what she meant by that tbh, can u explain?
@@jan-oq4ds it means, that the time of those vamires has passed, the future begins now, that is Hope
@@dinaramuratova1335 Not only Hope, there are also heretics,hybrids, Marcel,crescent wolves, Bonnie (psychic +witch) .There are also few people who have received power from Malivor. The supernatural world can be said to have evolved. This is the future.
@@ЛавровДаниил-л2я I think Hope meant herself only
HOPE IS DEFINITELY THE MOST POWERFUL CHARACTER, PERIOD
The God girl kinda beat up hope last episode
@@Jolora1257 no she didn't😂 she threw a damn coffin after which Hope was fine and she didn't fight back, like the OP said, Hope is the most powerful character which is kinda why the show stars her like her dad, also the god girl was hurt by siphoning so even if she is a god, you're misinterpreting god as overpowered character that can do anything which is a reasonable belief but does not seem to be the case in legacies
@@OpinionatedZoomer69 exactly Lizzie literally siphon her like it was nothing, if Lizzie can do sum than hope can definitely can do way more than she can
@@kiymila9111 Hope can’t siphon magic
@@vrishankkanagala1514 never said she can🌝, all I said if Lizzie can easily beat her than hope can do way worse
Look at Hope compelling the crowd to cheer after his death, the same way Mikael had the crowd cheering in the opera house 😭
Wait she compel them I didn’t know that I was like why are they not running they just kill someone lol
No she didn’t compel them lmfao….
@@tay_hilfiger197 between lizzie an hope, who did, then? Lmfao.
@@BlaqHalcyon I don’t think by any of them did. 😅 Probably thought it was an act.
@@BlaqHalcyon nobody they thought it was apart of the show obviously if she compelled them it would’ve been stated
i love how these vampire didn't expect Hope or lizzie to be more then just one creature then surprise that compulsion didn't work on them
and then gets his ass compelled by Hope
"Calling to your Vamp bros? Because I think they might be indisposed..."
Hope won't be an Original, they said. She can't compel vampires, they said. Lmao.
She would always be an Original when she turned, it was logic.
Her dad is an orginal besides they would have to kill her like 3x to make sure she is dead and there still is no guarantee...
She just did are u blind and stupid u need to get your eyes checked lmao bc u are dumb,she's an original
@@braydenkeller4511 She is being sarcastic towards the people who said she wasn't a original
*Lizzie being sired to Hope and them as frienemies is golden writing.* 😁😃
Kind of reminds me of klaus and Stefan in a way
I think I love this Lizzie and Hope combo ☺️.
“they’re really not”
hope without humanity is so badass
So happy I can finally validate my point of Hope being an original vampire . I was RIGHT AS ALWAYS 😘😘😘😘
NOT an Original, but an Original Equivalent.
Only originals can compel other vampires, and dark josie said she’s basically an original and she don’t have that power
Hope is an Original and not at the same time. The original term refers to vampires and hybrids, created through the spell of immortality, ie vampires and original hybrids. Already Hope she was born was not transformed by this spell. However, she is basically an original equivalent, mainly because she is the first of her kind and has basically the same powers.
@@igorstvm756 she has klaus vampire side , she is a original
@@dylanmoore6905 technically from a biological stand point if the only vampire DNA she got was from her dad (which it was) and all of klaus's vampire DNA was original vampire (which it was) then hope's vamp side is from original vampire DNA and thus biologically she is an original and not just an equivalent
Ok y’all need to clarify…hope is an original technically…but she’s not like her family she’s a natural born original…born with original vampire blood…she already had the strength of an original…it didn’t activate it until after her transition…
Just like Renesmee for instance she has vampiric abilities yet she was born and not bitten just like hope…
Yes she’s not an original per se but her vampiric nature is that of an original thanks to being born from one. She basically has all the original capabilities without being tied to Esther’s spell and all that jazz
She has double, even triple or more of the strength and abilities of her Original family, maybe even higher than her older brother Marcel. Hope is just wow. I wonder how insane her and Landon kids would be, god magic and all the abilities of the Tribrid.
can’t wait till it’s on netflix. I want clark to be in this season. he needs more screen time
just watch on illegal website
@@julienne9072 whgere?
No clark
@Pction thank you
@@chilloutwithhaider or 123movies
Both of them are a very fun and compatibal duo
All the people who tried to argue saying she isn't an Original tier Vampire just got btfo. Only Marcel at this point is at comparable power levels, and even then he'd probably get bodied by her OP witch powers. She is scary powerful right now.
I knew it! Hope is half original vampire! I am so fucking happy!!!!!!!
Technically she's one 3rd original vampire but we knew that before episode 11 from when she compelled that triad vampire in the bar, but she's not an original vampire as in 1000+ years old and first of a sire line more so her vampirism side is equivalent in power to an original giving her all there abilities and since she was not made immortal by the white oak tree nature had to make a loophole and that's why red oak is the only thing that can kill her and not white oak
She can compel vamps, and create sire bonds. Which i guess means any vamps or hybrids she creates would also die if she was killed.
You know you can break the sire bond right
@@Kevynmorgan the problem with that Is that Hope is more powerful due to her witch side so it would be very hard to subdue her
@@marwanali4878 nope.. Like every spell there's the basics.. Thanks to Divina Claire we know that sore bonds can be broken. It's not gonna be that difficult. And Lizzie can do a very good sneak attack.. Thanks to perfect gemini cloaking.. "Invusie" spell was a heretic special. And a sleep spell works on a witch too. Even if Hope can overwhelm the spell Lizzie can subdue her long enough to siphon her to the point of desiccation. The weakness of being a vampire.
@@Kevynmorgan Lizzies sneak attack would work on a normal vampire but the thing is hope is half wolf, she has heightened senses, she'd smell her, just as they did when Ethan would become invisible.
Siphon can only siphon a certain amount of energy, regardless of that even if Lizzie tries to Siphon Hope then she can just as easily use a spell to deflect her
@@marwanali4878 so you know you can spell yourself to be silent and invisible literally definition of you can't perceive me coming. And sleep spell of snapping of the neck definitely work to put her out for hours.. Lizzie proved her can snap her neck.. It's all bout timing.. And siphoning to a point of dessiccation isn't difficult you guys don't understand that certain weakness a particular trait can still affect a hybrid or tribrid
i love no humaity hope
I love hope and LIZZZ being vampires
This scene is so powerful lol
Since Hope is apparently an Original or has original vampire blood at least then does that mean if she is able to have kids that her kid or kids will also have original vampire blood
@@shacks29 Because regular Original vampires can’t have kids
No
@@nvk4057 yeah I know that original vampire can’t have kids you don’t need to insult me but I am asking if she was able to have kids that they would be tribrids or a tribrid and whatever their father is but I was asking would they have original vampire abilities like Hope does like compelling vampires or would their vampire sides be like regular vampires so basically can original vampire blood and abilities be passed down
@@FifthHarmony1234 ohh but see with hope I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t be able to have kids (if she doesn’t take the cure) because her witch and wolf sides died when she turned so she wouldn’t be able to have kids with supernaturals like werewolves or witches. And klaus was able to have kids because he was turned into a vamp before he activated his wolf curse so that part of him was alive when he activated it. But with hope her wolf and witch sides are dead.
if her witch an wolf side died wouldn't she not be able to do magic? and if it was actually dead wouldnt she just be an original born vampire that couldnt do magic an not a tribrid lol?
Imagine still being one thing in the tvdu 😩😩
Josie and mg lol weakest
Lizzie cant kill her without dying
Lizzie + hope awesome team
Omgg , I have a plot twist what if once hope turns on her humanity and Lizzie turns off hers 😳😳
I don’t understand how vampires can’t tell when they’re talking to other vampires.
Arrogance so they don't check for heartbeats smell ect , the other one should've smelt wolf ness on Hope but didnt .
@@riyapatel6291 like I feel like that should be an automatic instinct but hey
I thought vampires can only be killed by staking or ripping out their hearts?
Any supernatural creature will die if you cut it into pieces, remove the head, rip out the heart, stab it through the heart or rip it apart
So by logic the limb could reattach right 😂
@DerekDoesDolls thats why I've been saying tho. The vampire that they sliced could still be alive right because his head is still attached to his upper part
non original vampires die from decapitations, severe hemicorporetecmy.
, magic, fire, werewolf venom and more. non original hybrids die from all the things i said except stakes and others.
@@aleeya00 this is TVD not twilight lol, TVD creatures besides the ogs and Hope are more human like
The rules about vampire deaths get really fuzzy 😅.. at first it was only Wood to the heart, then a really powerful witch, hybrids could be killed with decapatation (it was never explained if vampire could be to but assumably yes) and now cutting the BODY in half works too ? 😂
I mean... having immortality and being indestructible might appeal in the same family tree, but they're miles from being the same.
Vampires can be killed with decapitation we saw it multiple of times
yeah they're vampires not gods lol. unless they're an original or original like being, Hope, any of sort lethal wound that you can't come back from like decaps, heart took out, burned, or split in half will end them.
pleaseeee we need a spinoff with lizzie and hopeeee
BRUH IM NEVER GOING TO A CIRCUS AGAIN
1 Sua habilidade hipnotiza não funciona comigo diferente você eu tenho poder original
This is proof that hopes vamp side is equal to an original she compelled a vamp
wait a minute?? hope can compel vampires?
can hope compels another vampires???????? wow that's amazing
She has original level abilities so yeah she can
The only reason why she can compel other vamps is cause her father is an original vampire that’s all. If her father was a normal vampire then she wouldn’t be able to
she's an Original in her own right, basically. Like Marcel is and Lucien and Alaric were, they are unbound vampires (or hybrid/tribrid) who start their own sirelines. Marcel was able to compel Elijah (because he was superior to him due to the level of his power if I remember right) and Alaric could compel normal vampires like Elena.
That was cool.
i thought the only ways to kill a vampire are:
sunlight
decapitation
heart removal
major damage inflicted on the heart with wood
im pretty sure the vampire will still be alive after getting chopped in half just that he cant regenerate
I love Hope without her Humanity. The show should have started from there or mid season 1 or season 2
I mean is that technically killing him? He wasn’t staked in the heart, burned or beheaded.
he was beheaded...
Vampires also die to Decap
@@H_savv4848 but they cut him in half but his head off
@@tarikruff9149 u understand vampires die from severe decapitation
@@H_savv4848 I just don’t remember any vamps dying like that any of the shows unless I forgot.
I never new hope can also compelled vimpires
Her father is an original vampire which makes her second gen original vampire..use ur brain she’s genetically klaus daughter
That wasn’t brutal, it was lame just like everything Hope did
Very nice, they’re clapping after they brutally murdered a vampire.
They're at a carnival, the people there think it's an act.
Stopped watching the show after season 2
Bcz they are not bringing Caroline Forbes in the show
You'd think with this season they are going to have to come up with another reason for why she doesn't show up. I don't think the Gemini things is an issue anymore.
She is a cringe charecter who could be annoying at times. But if your so into that I've heard rumors that she will return soon. Still Lizzie>Caroline
@@ogilongnose1115 C'mon! Yeah maybe Caroline was a little cringe earlier seasons of TVD but she became great and mature when she had Josie and Lizzie, also both Lizzie and Caroline are amazing characters.
@@ogilongnose1115 And I thought you were a Klaroline shipper? I saw some other comment of yours that Klaus and Caroline were cute together??
@@taylorswiftxbritneyspears2716 She didn't really mature. She thought she had a chance against Damon and alienated Stefan stupidly while also not considering the consequences or the situation.
Wtf is this 5 fps BS
Why is Lizzie going around killing people? Ik she’s sired to hope but I excepted a little more resistance from her on the killing people part
Its good they were BAD its ok go lizzie and hope ! Kill the vamps that hurt children
Lizzie, Hope and Josie have killed monsters who were bad. How is it any different them killing bad vamps?
@@Rev4mpz its not its wonderful !!!! High five hope n lizzie
@@Karazorel.Ms.PG1 exactly! they devoured their screen time.
Why is lizzie going around killing so freely? i was thinking, she isn't like that it's so out of character because her humanity is on. Yet hopes is off so we see a different side to her so it's confusing seeing lizzie so willing to shed blood when she freaks out about hurting any human being, unless she is threatened but even then she doesn't kill them. She backs them away or hurts them but not gruesomely murders them, this is expected of Hope no humanity but Lizzie despite being sired. Sometimes the show makes no sense, but it's cool I guess.
Ever since Alaric fell into a coma, Lizzie changed. After the therapy box, she accepted the dark side of herself. I mean, she wanted to kill Hope earlier on, brutally staking her hand before losing her nerves. Let's remember this: in season 2, Lizzie hated the thought of being a vampire and broke up with Sabastian for trying to turn her into one. In season 4, she finally accepted that she could be dark as she technically always was and to me, she's kind of stronger this way. I mean, only a dark minded person would drink vampire blood as a last resort. She was willing to become a vampire if anything happened, knowing the consequences.
Then, Hope kills her and she becomes a Heretic(known as the most powerful and brutal vampires they are). I definitely expected her to have such wicked tendency....
Besides, these vampires killed an innocent's girl's sister. Lizzie was channeling her anger to do this with Hope. Technically, if Hope did not save her, she would have died as well. I'm thinking that broke every from of restraint she had left.
This isn’t killing freely . She killed a terrible and cruel man who took the lives of many . She did the right thing
@@Astrlctrl I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just seeing a complete turn for her especially having Alaric as a father. She was always taught to not do certain things so I mean it is refreshing to see but it is very out of character for her.
@@utibeabasiokokonbassey6667 She didn't do it because she cares for hope and no matter how angry she is she won't do it, that is why it was so bizarre for her character to do. I was just surprised to see her do it, and I'm not saying it was wrong or right, It was just a little out of character. I'm wondering if they are referring to her as the next Caroline because they are doing some similar things like she is born to be a heretic or something, haha
I know it seems out of character and on some level it is. But, in this scene she's still lost without Josie and she was trying to prove herself worthy of Hope keeping the sire bond active. Plus, finding that they'd killed Luna's sister (which would trigger the memory of loss for Lizzie) and knowing there wouldn't be a way to just talk them out of what they'd been doing or hold them captive, Lizzie would have felt this was the right thing to do.
I didn't know Hope could compel other vampires wow
Shes an original level vampire so I thought It was obvious
her father is an original u dumbass what did u expect
her father is an original so obviouslu she will inherit all his powrrs dumbass thats how biology works
Lizzy seeing hope pretend...