Johannesburg or Cape Town Which is Better: African American Living in South Africa

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @jamesjean1579
    @jamesjean1579 2 місяці тому +27

    I’ve visited both . I prefer Joburg. SA is just such a beautiful country. Sunny all year round.

    • @Cebo88
      @Cebo88 Місяць тому

      @@jamesjean1579 It's not sunny all year round. It's winters are theatrical, cold and very wet.

  • @lindiwemabaso.ln4gmaillind656
    @lindiwemabaso.ln4gmaillind656 2 місяці тому +34

    Johannesburg is everything.

  • @yandisamadikizela2959
    @yandisamadikizela2959 2 місяці тому +18

    I lived in both Gauteteng and Cape Town. I prefer Gauteng Jozi Pretoia

  • @leroy6608
    @leroy6608 2 місяці тому +27

    As a Cape Townian currently living in Joburg. It pains me to say it bt Joburg is the real SA. It shows how the promise of our country has been realized. Cape Town still has lots to do as race is still too big driver only benefiting a few.

    • @maruskaehrensdorfer
      @maruskaehrensdorfer Місяць тому

      As a white South African, I have to agree with you! I live in Pretoria and we are also pretty well integrated here, in comparison to Cape Town. It's always jarring to me to see the huge divide in Cape Town whenever I'm there on a visit. Jozi and Tshwane (Pretoria) is where it's at! ☺

    • @TheJakes2009
      @TheJakes2009 Місяць тому +2

      I am in Cape Town and the one thing we lack as people of colour here is freedom.

  • @Cebo88
    @Cebo88 2 місяці тому +23

    Cape Town reminds me of San Fransisco, beautiful but slow. I love Johannesburg's pace and the fact that Black achievers are in full view everywhere. Cape Town, not so much. Also, you can literally go for years in Johannesburg without seeing your ex colleagues or distant friends. In Cape Town, there is nowhere to hide. Everyone finds their way to the Waterfront at some point and white people control that city. Granted, Cape Town is safer, but it doesn't have much by way of business and employment opportunities.

    • @someonelastname8175
      @someonelastname8175 2 місяці тому +3

      "white people control that city" incorrect, but it sounds like you don't like white people? Personally I find both cities are awesome, both offer fantastic quality of life. The money is in JHB and lifestyle is in Cape Town. I've always worked in JHB and holidayed in Cape Town.

    • @Cebo88
      @Cebo88 2 місяці тому

      @@someonelastname8175 Why are you making such a general statement. White people aren't the centre of my existence. I'm just stating an informed opinion. Socioeconomically white people control Cape Town .

    • @lifestylepretoria9181
      @lifestylepretoria9181 Місяць тому

      I agree, it is white controlled. Whites there look at you funny when you enter "their" establishments. When I'm there I feel like I'm in the apartheid years.

    • @maruskaehrensdorfer
      @maruskaehrensdorfer Місяць тому +4

      @Cebo88, as a white South African, I agree with you! I live in Pretoria and I have no desire to live in Cape Town. It's nice for a holiday once in a while, but that's it. The Garden Route is really where it's at if you want to enjoy the Western Cape.

    • @Cebo88
      @Cebo88 Місяць тому +3

      @@maruskaehrensdorfer I love the garden route as well. I once drove from Gqeberha to Cape Town and it's a beautiful place. We were also lucky to spot the steam train before it disappeared into the tunnel.

  • @endlessblisswithgnk
    @endlessblisswithgnk 2 місяці тому +8

    I’m from Joburg born and bred and l’m now living in Cape Town since 2012. I’ll never move back to Joburg. Cape Town is a diamond 💎

  • @MusehanaH
    @MusehanaH 2 місяці тому +5

    Ashley, the rivalry between the Capetonians and Joburgers is worse than the rivalry between South Africa and Australia rugby. It's brutal 😄
    I like the fact that in CT, everything you need is easily accessible and it is easy to navigate. I love that there are a lot of huge developments everywhere in Joburg you drive.
    To live in a decent area in CT, you need a more than a decent income.
    Joburg is quite more integrated socially than CT...

  • @Professor_Stark
    @Professor_Stark 2 місяці тому +3

    Currently living in Jhb, but relocating to CPT tomorrow actually. Working fully remote allows me to travel and I hope I don’t regret my move.

  • @Kenesha_
    @Kenesha_ 2 місяці тому +6

    I went to Cape Town last year and absolutely loved it. It reminds me of San Diego, California which also gets all seasons in one day lol
    I will be back for sure. I would love to check out Joburg as well.

    • @MlungisiCiti
      @MlungisiCiti 2 місяці тому +1

      Please do Joburg, you'll love it, especially as a melanated person❤🇿🇦

    • @ja5239ghhhjj
      @ja5239ghhhjj 2 місяці тому +1

      You will love Jozi! Especially if you like music and dancing :) Such a vibrant night life 😊

    • @Kenesha_
      @Kenesha_ 2 місяці тому

      Can’t wait to visit!

  • @SaintMcKlain
    @SaintMcKlain 2 місяці тому +2

    I love Joburg, but honestly speaking, I'm really tired of it. I was born and raised here in Joburg, but now I totally need a different atmosphere, and CT is my ideal location. Hopefully, soon, I'll relocate there. Thanks for sharing your views, Ashley.

  • @sanelemwelase
    @sanelemwelase 2 місяці тому +5

    I prefer Joburg, the only thing i hate is here is bad drivers 😫😫😫. All in all, i prefer Durban...im a coastal boy after all.

  • @bradrockl8330
    @bradrockl8330 Місяць тому +1

    Cape Town is chilled we dont chase after anything here,we appreciate the Sea the Mountains the Winelands
    We love our clean air here we love the outdoors
    And Yes Cape Town is Cold in winter but not the coldest province in South Africa
    In Summer Cape Town is the place to be

  • @HarveyDevilliers
    @HarveyDevilliers 14 днів тому

    Am proudly Capetonian Cape Town is my favorite then East London

  • @escalade8759
    @escalade8759 2 місяці тому +1

    I will certainly put South Africa on our bucket list as we explore our moving possibilities. Thanks! Can't make it this month as we are headed to Malaysia Saturday.

  • @myperspective2019
    @myperspective2019 2 місяці тому +7

    Johannesburg is number 1, Cape Town is too slow.

  • @jamespick5199
    @jamespick5199 3 дні тому

    Joburg weather is the best in South Africa

  • @hendrikvanblerk1862
    @hendrikvanblerk1862 Місяць тому

    Lived in Jhb for decades, now in CT. You've got it 100% right in all aspects.

  • @michodavid361
    @michodavid361 Місяць тому +1

    Aaaaaahhhhhhh Ashley you've been to Pilanesberg Nat park?😭😭
    I live approximately 15 minutes away from there.

  • @emmanuelparsotam5028
    @emmanuelparsotam5028 2 місяці тому +1

    As a Capetonian thank you Ashley for speaking so positively about Cape Town regarding business each city has its strengths in different industries and it is focused on those specific industries for example you have entered Realty and property and the commission based on ROI return on investment sales is high so you can earn a nice income on commission based property sales because of the highest cost of property on the African continent. The top 10 suburbs per square metre sales on the African continent is situated on the Atlantic seaboard in Cape Town so the commissions for real estate agents are very lucrative for each sale it never used to be like that in 1990 you couldn't fly directly into Cape Town from an international destination you had to go via ORTambo airport, then gentrification came upon us and Cape Town became more expensive than Johannesburg

  • @SONSTHREESIXTY
    @SONSTHREESIXTY 2 місяці тому

    Hey all i can say is MOST HIGHEST keep you safe. 😂❤🎉 Great information.

  • @AbdulAliMuhammad-s1x
    @AbdulAliMuhammad-s1x 2 місяці тому +1

    Everyone have a nice morning a day nice a evening a nice afternoon and enjoy The song by Michael Jackson corner of the sky🎉

  • @jamespick5199
    @jamespick5199 3 дні тому

    I Live in Both Cities and I still prefer Joburg

  • @nikilandella6136
    @nikilandella6136 Місяць тому +1

    Ashley! I love you.
    Jo urged here... pls don't leave out Durbs... you need to check it out. Its our Tampa. You get Zulu and Indian culture. The food is amazing and you have a warmer ocean❤ The Drakensburg Mountains in KwaZulu...😍.

    • @maruskaehrensdorfer
      @maruskaehrensdorfer Місяць тому +1

      Yes, I don't understand why they always leave out magnificent Durban and KZN in general! I live in Pretoria and I'd rather holiday in Durban than in Cape Town.

  • @roblucci2366
    @roblucci2366 2 місяці тому +8

    Johannesburg is miles ahead

    • @bradrockl8330
      @bradrockl8330 Місяць тому

      With Zama Zama's yes 😂😂😂😂

    • @roblucci2366
      @roblucci2366 Місяць тому

      @@bradrockl8330 better than those gangsters in the cape flats

  • @myzzkim88
    @myzzkim88 Місяць тому

    Joburg all day! Capetown is beautiful but Joburg is a whole vibe. I felt entirely different there.

    • @bradrockl8330
      @bradrockl8330 Місяць тому

      Talks a walk downtown in the CBD in Johannesburg lol or take a stroll down Hillbrow😅😅😅😅😅😅

    • @myzzkim88
      @myzzkim88 Місяць тому

      @@bradrockl8330 but why would I? Lol

  • @bluecouchpodcast24
    @bluecouchpodcast24 2 місяці тому +5

    Diana Ross ex husband Arne Naess died while hiking those Cape mountains..

  • @phaphamamtshengu1630
    @phaphamamtshengu1630 2 місяці тому +5

    Durban is more like Miami over Cape Town, so CPT is more like Cali

    • @mathewlegrange5880
      @mathewlegrange5880 Місяць тому

      Durban is not like Miami 😂. Durban is basically Joburg by the sea 😂

  • @HarveyDevilliers
    @HarveyDevilliers 14 днів тому

    Cape Town is my favorite

  • @masonsworld6851
    @masonsworld6851 Місяць тому

    Capetown! Hands down... But, I did have a great time in both places... just wish the language barrier didnt exist.

  • @lifestylepretoria9181
    @lifestylepretoria9181 2 місяці тому +3

    Cape Town mostly feels like Europe in every way, including the weather and the people 🤣😂... That's all I'm saying!

  • @luckyngcobo6073
    @luckyngcobo6073 2 місяці тому +3

    I prefer a city of Gold.

  • @patrickrichards6000
    @patrickrichards6000 2 місяці тому +3

    Cape town ❤ is cool

  • @georgyporgy7252
    @georgyporgy7252 2 місяці тому +1

    Ashley when are you gonna visit the garden route

  • @Biggz203
    @Biggz203 2 місяці тому +2

    How's the soul food?

  • @lifestylepretoria9181
    @lifestylepretoria9181 2 місяці тому +2

    There's more quality food and greater culinary experiences in Cape Town than in Joburg. Fact.

    • @maruskaehrensdorfer
      @maruskaehrensdorfer Місяць тому

      That's actually subjective. I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome and GERD, so I have to follow a bland diet, otherwise I get very ill. I've gotten used to it over the years and gourmet/fancy food doesn't excite me. It also depends on your taste and your preferences. Plenty people are lactose-intolerant and gluten-intolerant, so having a culinary experience is pretty much out of the question for them. I personally prefer Italian food (the items on the menu that I can eat) and there are brilliant Italian restaurants in Joburg and Pretoria and I have never encountered on in CT that could top it.

  • @elijahsimon6992
    @elijahsimon6992 2 місяці тому

    Have you ever been to Jamaica? How does it compare to the two??

  • @thenjiwedayimani232
    @thenjiwedayimani232 Місяць тому

    Cape Town has a Sea but its severely Cold

    • @bradrockl8330
      @bradrockl8330 Місяць тому

      Lmao you must not have been to the Northern Cape yet 😅😅😅

  • @alexanderjermaineabrahams1615
    @alexanderjermaineabrahams1615 Місяць тому +1

    CT for me as a Joburg native feels like Van Nuys. JHB feels like NY like Queens. Food wise its that rainbow nation effect KZN stand on business when it comes to INDIAN food. CT Cape Malay food and the the sea food gods. JHB we get the best of both plus we get to be the best with Chinese and asian foods , the Nigerians have also started to influence our food and finally we have the best Braai culture. Music CT Coloureds are the top coloured hip hop and Amapiano sounds the rest of SA is a fight for the top one month its a Zulu sound than next month its Xhosa etc you cant say who has the top sound for a long time if not for Tyla JHB would not be in the conversation. Religion is the same as our flag CT has the largest Islamic community but you will find a Mosque anywhere in South Africa. KZN has the largest Indian community out side of India.

  • @ultraozy4085
    @ultraozy4085 Місяць тому

    Easier making friends in capetown joburg is lonely

  • @arhadi-mt3fs
    @arhadi-mt3fs 2 місяці тому +2

    😂😂😂😂❤❤❤ I love both

  • @MHP_X
    @MHP_X Місяць тому

    U forgot the rain 😂

  • @lesegogaebeeyn4005
    @lesegogaebeeyn4005 2 місяці тому

    Capetown with their little cars

  • @NinohBrown
    @NinohBrown 2 місяці тому +4

    Cape Town has 'Cliques' it gets difficult if you not part of a 'Clique'. Joburg is more livelier, fast past, abundant business opprtunities and more friendly culture.
    In short Cape Town is beautiful but the people suck, Joburg is our 'concrete jungle' but the people are wonderful and culture is great

  • @anchoragealaska3104
    @anchoragealaska3104 2 місяці тому +2

    For African-Americans South Africa is not a "roots" experience as the African tribes living within it's borders are not the ancestors of African Americans, rather SA is just a more developed experience that offers something familiar for those born in the USA.

    • @mo_0912
      @mo_0912 2 місяці тому +2

      I get what you are saying, however, the migration that took place ages ago says the people in South Africa are connected to your ancestors.

    • @efreeholdings1575
      @efreeholdings1575 2 місяці тому +4

      Huh? I am African American and my roots are Zulu. My people kept some traditions and we are Zulus. Migrations happened due to w@r and colonization so people broke up and moved around. Most AAs are not the west Africans people think we are.

    • @thato596
      @thato596 2 місяці тому

      But Afrika is still roots . And for most African american it's not about 1 country , it's about Africa , and them traveling to see any nation in Africa. That is why it's African american and not gabon american or akan american

    • @anchoragealaska3104
      @anchoragealaska3104 Місяць тому

      @@thato596 No thats absurd - It's like saying to a 3rd generation Irish in America that when he visits Europe for the first time and say lands in Spain that he is meeting his ancestors people group . Spain bears zero resemblance (cultural or racial) to his ancestors and landing in somewhere "Europe" is not a "motherland" experience. He would only ancestorally connect when he gets to Ireland. Africa is a continent - not a singular racially homogenous people group.

    • @anchoragealaska3104
      @anchoragealaska3104 Місяць тому

      @@efreeholdings1575 Genetic testing on African Amercians does not show ancestry to Xhosa, Sotho, Venda, Zulu Tswana etc - (95% + ) - . These latter groups had migrated (and completed it) southwards into Southern Africa starting at least 1000 years before slavery into the Amerca's (the earliest groups) - if there is any it's an aberation (outlier) . Genetic links are however correlated for West and Central Africa where most American slaves came from in the 16th century en route to America.

  • @molefejappie3284
    @molefejappie3284 2 місяці тому +8

    Hi Ashley. You are an African and very informative. Sometimes, you don't need to be apologetic.
    Western ideology is still alive in Cape Town in such a way that some wanna vote to be independent and nomore bother about Africans and guess who are they, Whites who were foreign to SA some ten years ago.
    This means that some wanna steal part of our heritage instead of going back to their origin and buy Ukraine or part of it.
    The rich who happen to be western leave peacefully in their suburbs there. Go to Nyanga, Langa or Bishop Lavis, and even Kraaifontein and see the disimilarities. The reminances of apartheid is still more visible in those areas .
    You have said it well previously and even now. I applaud you for such a brave comments. Johannesburg has got everything that our African Americans need unapologetically.

    • @Grobby104
      @Grobby104 2 місяці тому +6

      I agree with you 100% ,but when you mean whites, do you mean SA whites or European whites cuz I am a white South African and I don't agree with the west and cape independence, we must promote african culture

    • @nicobr00
      @nicobr00 2 місяці тому +5

      😂 less than 1% of western cape residents support the independence movement.

    • @anchoragealaska3104
      @anchoragealaska3104 2 місяці тому

      You sound like an ANC EFF apologist - nothing to be proud of.

    • @Nyameka-j7z
      @Nyameka-j7z 2 місяці тому

      ​@Grobby104 my kind of South african😊

    • @antonioarineshito2892
      @antonioarineshito2892 2 місяці тому +6

      ​@nicobr00 It's got to do more with their ideologies, Cape townians like to think their city has no issues and look down at the rest of SA, they r kinda stuck in a weird bubble I don't how to put it😂

  • @Trying_to_do_better
    @Trying_to_do_better 2 місяці тому +1

    🙏🏿

  • @SpigadoMakoloi
    @SpigadoMakoloi Місяць тому

    Pls hire me, i am looking for a job.

  • @africaisking7817
    @africaisking7817 2 місяці тому +1

    Both are trash Gangstaz paradise versus the City of Gold and that's gold most will never see 😂 I live in a little beach town called Gonubie 🇿🇦✊🏿 it's so great 😭🇿🇦🔥 unlike those struggle cities booo 👎🏾

  • @JohnathanMackenzie-h8z
    @JohnathanMackenzie-h8z Місяць тому

    None...Durban is the best!

  • @comrade9374
    @comrade9374 2 місяці тому +5

    You stay in joberg is you want to be someone and you stay in cape town when your already someone

  • @gibson2675
    @gibson2675 2 місяці тому

    Is there police brutality in SA

    • @Jay-rd3hn
      @Jay-rd3hn 2 місяці тому +4

      Yes very much so 🤣🤣🤣
      I am kidding there is no police brutality in South Africa 🇿🇦.

    • @comrade9374
      @comrade9374 2 місяці тому +4

      no 😂we have mutual relationship with our police

    • @mrmanq9517
      @mrmanq9517 2 місяці тому

      There isn''t that anamosity with police, its more of a chilled relationship ...we crack jokes and keep it moving. The ocassional bribe (cooldrink money) helps😂

    • @ronm4385
      @ronm4385 2 місяці тому

      Not unless you are brutal yourself.

    • @MidnightTheOne
      @MidnightTheOne 2 місяці тому +1

      From what my SA friends tell me, there is police inactivity. If any crime happens, you resolve it and then the police comes to report the crime as solved, then they go back to doing nothing

  • @vusisa6937
    @vusisa6937 2 місяці тому +1

    You got it all wrong there is no beef between the cities.South African beef is racial, tribal and political it doesn't matter where you are.

    • @MusehanaH
      @MusehanaH 2 місяці тому

      That too bit there definitely is a beef between CT and Joburg...but then, the people from WC and CT think they are special 😄

    • @all_things_africa
      @all_things_africa Місяць тому

      She's joking but there is a bit of a rivalry.

  • @Mr-Litch
    @Mr-Litch 2 місяці тому

    Firstly you are not African American you are black American

    • @RosiesVision
      @RosiesVision 2 місяці тому +1

      Please explain your difference!?! Were you born in America or Africa?

    • @thato596
      @thato596 2 місяці тому +1

      The name African american is still right.

    • @RosiesVision
      @RosiesVision 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thato596 thank you! I wanted to hear his reasoning for that statement!

    • @lifestylepretoria9181
      @lifestylepretoria9181 Місяць тому

      yawn**

    • @DoobyScooo4699
      @DoobyScooo4699 Місяць тому

      This person is a white troll💀

  • @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv
    @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv 2 місяці тому +1

    And also portelizabath is good

    • @AshleyinAfrika
      @AshleyinAfrika  2 місяці тому

      I cannot wait to visit!

    • @NinohBrown
      @NinohBrown 2 місяці тому

      ​@@AshleyinAfrikaperfect looking forward to you pronounciation of "Gqeberha"

    • @lifestylepretoria9181
      @lifestylepretoria9181 Місяць тому

      The friendliest people are found in PE. Actually the entire Eastern Cape has the friendliest people.

  • @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv
    @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv 2 місяці тому

    Why guys you hate Durban you don't speak about Durban is so big is a Metro city but you hate it loo

    • @AshleyinAfrika
      @AshleyinAfrika  2 місяці тому +2

      I love Durban!! I just don’t get to spend as much time there as id like to, to speak and compare. I’m happy to a video about what I know. Would that be helpful?

    • @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv
      @SbusisoMbatha-zb1gv 2 місяці тому

      @@AshleyinAfrika oryt me between Johannesburg and Cape town I choose you I love you I live in rechadsbay kzn

    • @sanelemwelase
      @sanelemwelase 2 місяці тому

      Nobody hates Durban!! This about Joburg and Cape. It not a competition 😫

    • @comrade9374
      @comrade9374 2 місяці тому +3

      Full of tribalism that city

    • @mrmanq9517
      @mrmanq9517 2 місяці тому

      @@AshleyinAfrika People come to Durban and focus on only Umhlanga Rocks + Ballito
      But KZNis as SERIOUS gem, start focussing on the older neighbourhoods like Glenwood, Musgarave, westville etc....theres just so many. Township wise, theres uMlazi, Kwamashu
      Even the natal midlands or south coast. Best warm water beaches...
      Durban is really underrated😂

  • @mrastazwanan8803
    @mrastazwanan8803 Місяць тому

    pretoria smaller abt 3,4 million people but better than both Johannesburg and cape town .

    • @mohjayy
      @mohjayy 10 днів тому

      When people say Jhb they also consider Pretoria. The two cities are close to each other that they are considered as one.