After you poke through with the pilot bit on the hole saw, try putting it in reverse and going through. It prevents cracking the plastic because the teeth dont catch, it more or so kinda melts through. Makes a cleaner hole
You can add an empty bottle to the pipe, it'll greatly improve your pressure, should angle the outside valves a bit inwards or move it all the way up and have it spray sideways, less chance of getting water everywhere, but all in all, broken lid and duct tape, great successful build man 💪🥳🙏 hope to see more videos like this and what you're growing in there, best of everything 🙏 greetings from Thailand 🙏
Sterlite makes a nice rubber made tote in 18 gallon size that is a little taller and softer plastic (no breaking). Also, using an aquarium pump domes with fittings that connect to pvc fittings better as well as a/c standard wiring that plugs in directly. On my setup, I drilled the wire access on side of the bin near the top (as opposed to the lid). Nice job on the project overall. I use mine as a closer and get roots at about 5 days on cuttings.
@@HHCIB so as a creator you should educate your audience on that fact. The fact you didn't says a lot. Like you don't earn a like and a follow. The whole point of creating content is to educate those who know less. It's your responsibility to send people off with knowledge to be successful. Let's put it in perspective... New grower watches your channel and builds this half passed contraption. Gets issues in the root zone. Chances are they ask someone local or someone they know what is causing their issue. Once they give a detailed description of their setup, the person offering advice is sure to chuckle and say you built a bad setup and it needs complete darkness in the Reservoir and root Zone. How likely to continue to watch your videos do you think they are? Vs how likely it is they click not interested on your next video and block you from their suggested videos? I can completely verify you're blocked from being a recommendation on my YT and I've only seen part of one of your videos. I know I may sound harsh, it's not meant to be such I'm just very direct and upfront.
@@Omni11B no, you’re not direct and upfront, you’re rude, entitled and ungrateful. He was just sharing his idea and build with us, for free, on UA-cam. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. It’s not like school you paid for. Every UA-camr has a process of journeying towards how great they have become today. At least appreciate the free information he provided and then add your comment to help him get better. You can choose to block him and others choose to like and suscribe. You can’t expect one video to provide all the perfect information on something, that’s why intelligent people watch as many videos so as to get the best, most relevant and well suited information for what they’re looking for. The UA-camr did a fine job of showing us how we could DIY our own aerológica system in my own opinion. Have a good day sir
I like that you used clear bins to show how it is fully assembled. I was hoping for a follow-up with it running and still in the clear bin. I figured you were clever enough to know that it had to be dark when you start growing plants. Unlike other commentary that was rudely stated to that fact.
Should use a black tote type, not clear. Use black spray paint then white after to block light and not heat up the water if using cleaner container. I would drill a hole for refills instead of having to take the top off but that's just my suggestion. You can go one step further and put a start/stop pump for a 5 gallon bucket full of pre-made water/nutrient so you won't have to think about it other when you see your reservoir is low. Just my thoughts and have fun growing
I don't mean to be rude. I just want to try and educate you and the people that watch this video. First off this is not a aero setup. It's actually a hydro setup. The reason for this is, because your nute solution and pump are in the grow chamber. So once your roots start growing, they will be hanging down into your nute solution. Instead of just hanging in the air. Hence aeroponics. When growing with aero you want your system to have a grow chamber and a reservoir. The reservoir will have your nute solution and pump in it. Then you get a timer to where you can set seconds and minutes. And plug your pump into that. Because your ON spray time only takes seconds. And your OFF time takes minutes. For example you would only spray your roots for 5 seconds every 10 minutes. And then your nute solution drains back into the reservoir. So the roots are just hanging in the air. That pvc thing with your sprayers on it is called a manifold. Like I said I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to give you some friendly advice. Now with your manifold. You have way to many sprayers. You just want to mist the roots a little, not soak them. I don't know if you have ever seen roots grown with aero. But there will be like main roots. And then off of them there will be like little hair roots. Well if you soak your roots you won't get any of the hair roots. Which help tremendously with the uptake of your nutes. Without these hair roots your limiting the success of your grow. Another thing about your manifold is it is sitting way to high up in your grow chamber. And you will have tons of leaks. My manifolds sit about 2 inchs off the bottom of the grow chamber. Someone already said something about your grow chamber and reservoir being light proof. But also there is one very important thing, that most people that try and grow with aero don't know is that you must keep your grow chamber and reservoir and nutes at around 75 degrees. This is very important from keeping mildew and mold from attacking your roots. Hence ROOT ROT. I've been growing with what is called LPA ( Low pressure Aeroponics ) for about 15 years now. Which means I'm not using a high pressure pump to achieve the droplet size required to grow with HPA ( High Pressure Aeroponics ). When I wanted to start growing with aero. I built a HPA system. It cost me over 500 bucks. And it was a pain in the rump. And then about a year after I was growing with HPA. I stumbled across this guys grow diary and he was growing with LPA. I'd never heard of it before. This guys diary was great. It was like a hundred pages long and he showed everything he did, even with hundreds of pictures. Anyway I built a LPA system. And did a side by side against my HPA system. And there was NO difference in the results. And the rest is history. LoL 😂😆. I built 4 LPA systems, which consist of 2, 23 site grow chambers with 1 reservoir. Each system is only 3'x3'. Thats 46 plants in a 9 s/ft area. I grow in what is called the SOG ( Sea Of Green). My plants are like 2 inchs apart. I've been growing this way for about 15 years now and it is the cheapest easiest and fastest way to grow. Anyway I hope this helps a little. Oh one more thing. The tubs you want to use are the black ones with the yellow lids from home Depot. Those are the only ones that will not leak. Good luck and take care. ASS OG. Aero Systems Sea Of Green.
I would like to see your Aeroponic System. Can you share resource related to your system. I am a student and would like to make a Project out of this .
Hi, this video is interesting and so are your comments. Would like to see how your system is build, why not share a video? I am planning to build a system and any tip helps. Thanks
@@DIY_Garden Sorry, but I don't do videos. But I will try and explain how I built my aero systems. For my grow chambers I used storage bins. I tried 5 or 6 different ones, before I found ones that wouldn't leak. The black bins with the yellow lids at home Depot. Are the ones I use. They are 27" L x 18" W x 12" H. I sit 2 of them right next to each other. So I can use 1, 3'x 3' led light over them. These 2 grow chambers have 1 reservoir. You can use almost any size reservoir, because you are only going to fill it up halfway. But the ones I use are 20" L x 12" W x 15" H. Now for the manifolds that go in your grow chambers. I used half inch PVC. And they have all the connections you need. Just make a rectangle the dimension of the inside of your grow chamber, but run a line down the middle of it. Now when you build your manifold you can use the slip fittings and there is NO NEED to glue them. There is one more thing. On one of the corners of the manifold you will have to use a T fitting. It should have a slip on one of the ends and in the middle, then the other end needs to have threads. This is for the fitting that goes out the chamber. I used what is called a riser. It's for sprinklers. It's 5" long and it's a black pipe that have sections of threads on it and you can cut it to different lengths. But just keep it at 5". Now you are going to need to drill a half inch hole in your chamber to run this riser through. Now before you drill that hole. You are going to have to decide how high your manifold will be off the bottom of the chamber. I keep mine at 2" off the bottom. So you would have to drill that hole 2" from the bottom. Now that you have the riser going out of the chamber you will want to put a half inch threaded female fitting with a half inch nipple. So you can hook a half inch hose to it. You will also want to put a hole in the bottom in the middle of the chamber. For a half inch elbow with a half inch nipple on the end for your drain hose. Remember you will have to have your grow chamber sitting up off the floor for this drain hose. And it has to sit higher than the solution in your reservoir. So it will drain properly. Now for your sprayers on the manifold. I run 9 of them. Use the litter plastic green sprayers that you can get at your hydro store. There cheap and they work great. Now I don't know how many plants you are going to grow and what you are going to use to grow them in. So you will have to drill holes in the lid of your grow chamber. I grow in the SOG. So each of my grow chambers have 23 plants in them. So thats 23 holes I had to drill. I don't use rock wool or them clay things. All of that is a pain in the ass. And a unnecessary cost. All I use to grow my plants in are 2" net pots with the 2" foam inserts. And you can use these over and over. So it saves a lot of money. Now for your reservoir, pump, filters and hoses. Drill a half inch hole, 2" from the top and another 2" from the bottom. Right in the middle of one of the sides. The top one is for your pump and the bottom one is for the drain hose. You will want to use the black half inch hose you can get at your hydro store. You will want each of your hoses to be at least 7' long. This will give you plenty of room, just in case you have to move them. Which you will. The filter I use is what people use on their sprinkler system. It's black and is about 8 inches long. The hose will go on each end and the filter is in the middle. And it just unscrews. This goes on the outside of the reservoir. Anywhere on the pump line to the grow chamber. The main reason I use this style of filter is because it is real fine. A lot finer than anything you can get at the hydro store. Plus it's easy to take part and clean every few days. For the pump I just use a pond pump from home Depot. Don't try and use the 2 smallest ones they sell. Anything above those will work. Thats about it good luck.
Hey mate, good setup. Build something pretty similar. If i may give you a tipp from my experiences, a bigger waterreservoir reduces maintenance by a lot. It not only reduces the times you need to add nutrients, but the ph drifts a lot slower, especially if you use tap water. The challange of the plumbing is just far greater with an extra reservoir.
Using a larger reservoir in a recirculating system will delay the need to replace the nutrient solution due to elemental unbalance but it wont negate it :) If you are using tapwater, its a good idea to check its elemental content.
@@CinematixActionProd Not nessessarily. Depends on your containersize. In my experience, smaller reservoirs need more frequent maintenance, but i only used tap water so far. I have build a pretty similar setup with a total capacity of 2L for 3 leafy green plants. It needed ph adjustemnts every 3-4 days and on hot days a refill every two days. I now use a 80L reservoir for 10 plants (aeroponic container with plants and reservoir are seperated) and need to refill once a month (in summer) and only make one initial ph adjustment. Same water.
You did a nice job.Definitely could have been alot more simple,that’s not fun though.I’m glad to see you get the proper tools to get it done.Working plumbing this is hilarious😂You should have plenty of power with that pump to daisy chain into two smaller tubs.It’s insane the price of fresh produce
At zero flow your bilge pump will produce 1.7psi, nowhere near enough pressure to create any kind of mist :) The 1100gph pump is better (6.4psi at zero flow) but its more washing machine on rinse cycle than aeroponic :) Aeroponics is not about how much water you can throw around, its about how little. A little mist goes a long way, ua-cam.com/video/ObivGI9QXwk/v-deo.html Plants dont need as much water as you imagine, same system with plants, ua-cam.com/video/iXWT1cObE6o/v-deo.html When you put the plants in, i`d recommend just hydroton/clay pebbles in the netpots. If you use any rockwool or jiffy plug etc, it`ll become saturated in seconds, suffocate the roots or prevent any from forming.
You're correct about the PSI being inadequate. I also think I used pvc channeling that was far too large in diameter for what I needed to accomplish the task. I will be creating a new version of this system based off of the things I have learned here. Thanks for the feedback :)
@@HHCIB I would suggest using a cheap reverse osmosis booster pump (ideally 12v or 24v dc), a couple of 1gph tefen mist nozzles and a dc cycle timer. The cost savings on pvc fittings (silly expensive here) would almost pay for the pump :)
@@wetwerk2178 Thanks for the informed response and the encouragement. I like the feedback I'm getting from everyone. This is all new from me, so the more info the better :)
@@wetwerk2178 It seems you have no experience of genuine aeroponics, if your sprinklerponic, no timer system is working for you thats great. I can tell you without a doubt that rockwool can become oversaturated and create problems that folks initially blame on the nutrient, temperature, ph or basically everything apart from saturated rockwool. When they remove the netpot and swing it back and forth, it suddenly becomes clear what the issue is. The roots beyond the rockwool will be fine until the roots in the rockwool suffocate and root rot sets in. Fwiw, the droplet range for genuine aero is 5-80 microns, 150 micron is way too large. Here`s the closest thing i have to a low pressure aeroponic system, it runs on zero psi water pressure and would give NASA a run for their money. ua-cam.com/video/Bn_aQZR8uzc/v-deo.html
@HHCIB Hi, it was better to use a clear tub for the sake of the video! Also, can you paint it black and test it on a video, please! I don't agree with the above comment as nft systems. The rockwool is always soaked. The results would show. Thankyou.
It is always a good idea to paint over the bucket with dark paint, the more light that enters the bucket the more likely you will get algae and other pests. Other than that nice build.
With that spray volume and droplet size, you're not actually getting the benefits of aeroponics so much as creating a high-energy kratky system. Plants will grow in it, but you won't get the fine root system and higher nutrient uptake that an aeroponic system is aiming for. You've got too many spray heads to begin with and they're too close to the roots, so you're effectively just hosing them down when ideally you want smaller droplets diffusing through the air and collecting in a fine mist on them. The weaker pump with less nozzles (and not aimed directly at the roots) will likely get you a better result. You could also use an ultrasonic mister in a separate container that has a filtered fan to flow the mist into the grow chamber (and which will also condense the droplets on the way through so that they size up from the 1 micron size that an ultrasonic mister will produce). But yeah, as that system is designed, you could just build a kratky system and save yourself the power cost of the pump. In a one chamber system the plants are going to eventually grow their roots down into the reservoir anyway and then the pump becomes pointless.
@@diegobucarey Can do! So a Kratky system is one where the root chamber and the reservoir chamber are the same chamber (like in this case). Usually the initial water level is at or immediately below the seed level, and as the plants uptake the nutrient mix, the water level is allowed to drop some so that there is an area of root system exposed to oxygen (because plants uptake oxygen through their roots and so need this space to not drown), and an area of root system simply in the nutrient mix (because they also need to uptake nutrients through their roots). The reservoir is periodically topped up to maintain this level of nutrient mix so that the plants can continue to uptake both oxygen and nutrients/water through their roots. So what he's done here is essentially built a Kratky system, but rather than start with a high nutrient mix level, he's just added sprayers to throw up the nutrient mix at the plants. In a proper aeroponic system, the reservoir would be separate and the spray volume would be less intense, and the droplet size would be finer, so the roots are almost being misted while otherwise being suspended in a volume of air. Any excess liquid would be allowed to drain out of the system back to the reservoir so it's just that mist-delivery that delivers nutrients to the plants. No pool at the bottom for them to waste energy growing towards. The root systems grow differently in the two systems too - in a Kratky system you get long roots that initially spread out (because the first level grows wide due to the easier access to water when the water level was high) and then dangle down like hair, whereas in an aeroponic system you get large fractal branches as the roots try to maximise their surface area to uptake the mist.
Replace the plexiglass with LEXAN polycarbonate and you will illuminate the breaking issues while drilling. It runs a bit more in cost but it is shatter resistant and lasts far longer than plexiglass.
After you get the pilot hole started reverse the drill and let the weight of the drill cut the holes. Don't push down! Yes it's slow. But it greatly lessens the chance it will shatter or Crack the plastic.
Cool setup! Have you thought of reducing the spray volume and do you have any results you can share? Also how do you drain/ replace the water? Do you have to take everything out?
Also, cut your holes in your lid on a spare bin so you don’t worry about all the plastic sawdust. And don’t use a clear container! You’ll be overwhelmed by algae.
I will be adding wrapping to the basin to block out the light. You are correct though, if I left it to run as is it would most definitely become an algae farm :)
Hello I have a question, when we talk about traditional soil culivation, we need nitrifying (or more) soil bacteria and fungus that live in symbiosis with the plants to be grown, is this the same for hydroponic and aeroponic method ? can we totally make the vegetable growing without these bacteria and fungus that transform nutrients ?
how many seconds does it spray and how many minutes off? are we talking 3 seconds spray then 3 minutes off?how many seconds does it spray and how many minutes off? are we talking 3 seconds spray then 3 minutes off?
Yes, by definition this isn't a true aeroponics setup. I was unable to produce a fine mist with the equipment I have. I plan on continuing to develop this project and will create a version 2 with all of the things I learned while building version 1.
The transpanrent container will be painted, I only used clear so that it was visible for the video. Transparent environment would create the right conditions for algae unfortunately.
It didn't create and aerosolized spray, I need to use a different type of nozzle in order to achieve that. It did create sufficient spray to move the nutrient solution over the pots though.
Thanks! I used a clear container so it would be easier to see during filming. Going to paint it or wrap it in the next video. However I’m the future I will just use black or another non-transparent material.
This is thin film not aeroponics sorry to say, technically deep water once the roots grow more than a few inches..... Good on you for having a go, might be useful for clones.
I’m not sure I know the difference. You are correct though I didn’t get the type of aerosolization you that would qualify. Hopefully I’ll improve in future builds
@@HHCIB You need to be 90PSI or more in water pressure for aeroponics, the mist should be fine enough that is basically sits in the air instead of falling immediately to the floor. Your roots will then turn to a fuzzy mass resembling fungus.
Next time put the lid on a piece of wood (stops vibration), and once you poke the guide hole thru, reverse the drill and cut the hole with the saw going reverse (slowly).. it won't break the plastic as easily.
@@HHCIB If you use an rO booster pump you can use 1/4" RO tubing and 1/4" push fittings which makes things a lot easier. The flowrate in the tubing will typically be no more than 4 GPH (4 x 1GPH nozzles). If you connect your 1000gph pump to even a short length of 1/4" tube you wont get higher pressure, you`ll just get a dribble of water from the end of the tube :)
If u would have used smaller pipe u wouldn't of had to buy another pump. . I'm sure it cost more than buying smaller pipe and redoing it. . But that's u brother. . Jus my opinion on what I woulda done
The bin shouldn't be clear bro, will have algae issues. also better results with the pvc a little higher and nozzles pointed down, been growing like thi for 15 plus years
This is true, the resevoir will be painted in the next video. I used a clear container for the video so that all the parts were visible. Though, I failed to mention that in the video, my mistake. Thanks for adding the comment :)
You're correct that I didn't achieve enough pressure to aeroselize the spray, which would have made this true aeroponics, so it's more of a hydroponics / aeroponics mix. I think that aquaponics is when you combine a cooperation between plants and fish.
I'm not sure I plan on building custom orders. However, if there is interest, I would consider preparing kits with all parts and instructions included.
Good work 👍 . I would like to see a improvised update on this product . And Can we use other eco friendly material in place of plastic. Will a iron Aeroponic tower / Box work ?
After you poke through with the pilot bit on the hole saw, try putting it in reverse and going through. It prevents cracking the plastic because the teeth dont catch, it more or so kinda melts through. Makes a cleaner hole
Thanks for the tip :)
That's what I do
You can add an empty bottle to the pipe, it'll greatly improve your pressure, should angle the outside valves a bit inwards or move it all the way up and have it spray sideways, less chance of getting water everywhere, but all in all, broken lid and duct tape, great successful build man 💪🥳🙏 hope to see more videos like this and what you're growing in there, best of everything 🙏 greetings from Thailand 🙏
Thanks a bunch man :)
Perhaps less sprays?
Sterlite makes a nice rubber made tote in 18 gallon size that is a little taller and softer plastic (no breaking). Also, using an aquarium pump domes with fittings that connect to pvc fittings better as well as a/c standard wiring that plugs in directly. On my setup, I drilled the wire access on side of the bin near the top (as opposed to the lid). Nice job on the project overall. I use mine as a closer and get roots at about 5 days on cuttings.
So the sides and top needs to block out light otherwise you may find algae growing a bunch. Other than that, I like the set up
I'm sure he gets that part if he's capable of building one ....
@@kushcraft9914 👍
I plan on adding a wrap to all sides and the top to block out the light, the clear container made for good filming. I appreciate the tips :)
@@HHCIB so as a creator you should educate your audience on that fact. The fact you didn't says a lot. Like you don't earn a like and a follow. The whole point of creating content is to educate those who know less. It's your responsibility to send people off with knowledge to be successful. Let's put it in perspective...
New grower watches your channel and builds this half passed contraption. Gets issues in the root zone. Chances are they ask someone local or someone they know what is causing their issue. Once they give a detailed description of their setup, the person offering advice is sure to chuckle and say you built a bad setup and it needs complete darkness in the Reservoir and root Zone. How likely to continue to watch your videos do you think they are? Vs how likely it is they click not interested on your next video and block you from their suggested videos? I can completely verify you're blocked from being a recommendation on my YT and I've only seen part of one of your videos. I know I may sound harsh, it's not meant to be such I'm just very direct and upfront.
@@Omni11B no, you’re not direct and upfront, you’re rude, entitled and ungrateful. He was just sharing his idea and build with us, for free, on UA-cam. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. It’s not like school you paid for. Every UA-camr has a process of journeying towards how great they have become today. At least appreciate the free information he provided and then add your comment to help him get better. You can choose to block him and others choose to like and suscribe. You can’t expect one video to provide all the perfect information on something, that’s why intelligent people watch as many videos so as to get the best, most relevant and well suited information for what they’re looking for. The UA-camr did a fine job of showing us how we could DIY our own aerológica system in my own opinion. Have a good day sir
dont listen to all the people saying its not a mist etc, it doesnt need to be , it will grow massive roots im sure
I like that you used clear bins to show how it is fully assembled. I was hoping for a follow-up with it running and still in the clear bin. I figured you were clever enough to know that it had to be dark when you start growing plants. Unlike other commentary that was rudely stated to that fact.
Should use a black tote type, not clear. Use black spray paint then white after to block light and not heat up the water if using cleaner container. I would drill a hole for refills instead of having to take the top off but that's just my suggestion. You can go one step further and put a start/stop pump for a 5 gallon bucket full of pre-made water/nutrient so you won't have to think about it other when you see your reservoir is low. Just my thoughts and have fun growing
I don't mean to be rude.
I just want to try and educate you and the people that watch this video.
First off this is not a aero setup. It's actually a hydro setup.
The reason for this is, because your nute solution and pump are in the grow chamber. So once your roots start growing, they will be hanging down into your nute solution. Instead of just hanging in the air. Hence aeroponics.
When growing with aero you want your system to have a grow chamber and a reservoir. The reservoir will have your nute solution and pump in it. Then you get a timer to where you can set seconds and minutes. And plug your pump into that.
Because your ON spray time only takes seconds. And your OFF time takes minutes.
For example you would only spray your roots for 5 seconds every 10 minutes.
And then your nute solution drains back into the reservoir. So the roots are just hanging in the air.
That pvc thing with your sprayers on it is called a manifold.
Like I said I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to give you some friendly advice.
Now with your manifold. You have way to many sprayers.
You just want to mist the roots a little, not soak them.
I don't know if you have ever seen roots grown with aero.
But there will be like main roots. And then off of them there will be like little hair roots. Well if you soak your roots you won't get any of the hair roots. Which help tremendously with the uptake of your nutes. Without these hair roots your limiting the success of your grow.
Another thing about your manifold is it is sitting way to high up in your grow chamber. And you will have tons of leaks. My manifolds sit about 2 inchs off the bottom of the grow chamber.
Someone already said something about your grow chamber and reservoir being light proof.
But also there is one very important thing, that most people that try and grow with aero don't know is that you must keep your grow chamber and reservoir and nutes at around 75 degrees.
This is very important from keeping mildew and mold from attacking your roots.
Hence ROOT ROT.
I've been growing with what is called LPA ( Low pressure Aeroponics ) for about 15 years now.
Which means I'm not using a high pressure pump to achieve the droplet size required to grow with HPA
( High Pressure Aeroponics ).
When I wanted to start growing with aero. I built a HPA system. It cost me over 500 bucks. And it was a pain in the rump.
And then about a year after I was growing with HPA.
I stumbled across this guys grow diary and he was growing with LPA. I'd never heard of it before.
This guys diary was great.
It was like a hundred pages long and he showed everything he did, even with hundreds of pictures.
Anyway I built a LPA system.
And did a side by side against my HPA system.
And there was NO difference in the results.
And the rest is history. LoL 😂😆.
I built 4 LPA systems, which consist of 2, 23 site grow chambers with 1 reservoir.
Each system is only 3'x3'.
Thats 46 plants in a 9 s/ft area. I grow in what is called the SOG ( Sea Of Green).
My plants are like 2 inchs apart.
I've been growing this way for about 15 years now and it is the cheapest easiest and fastest way to grow.
Anyway I hope this helps a little.
Oh one more thing.
The tubs you want to use are the black ones with the yellow lids from home Depot.
Those are the only ones that will not leak.
Good luck and take care.
ASS OG.
Aero Systems Sea Of Green.
I would like to see your Aeroponic System. Can you share resource related to your system. I am a student and would like to make a Project out of this .
Do you need an intern 😂
Hi, this video is interesting and so are your comments. Would like to see how your system is build, why not share a video? I am planning to build a system and any tip helps. Thanks
@@DIY_Garden
Sorry, but I don't do videos.
But I will try and explain how I built my aero systems.
For my grow chambers I used storage bins. I tried 5 or 6 different ones, before I found ones that wouldn't leak.
The black bins with the yellow lids at home Depot.
Are the ones I use.
They are 27" L x 18" W x 12" H.
I sit 2 of them right next to each other. So I can use 1,
3'x 3' led light over them.
These 2 grow chambers have 1 reservoir. You can use almost any size reservoir, because you are only going to fill it up halfway.
But the ones I use are
20" L x 12" W x 15" H.
Now for the manifolds that go in your grow chambers.
I used half inch PVC.
And they have all the connections you need.
Just make a rectangle the dimension of the inside of your grow chamber, but run a line down the middle of it. Now when you build your manifold you can use the slip fittings and there is NO NEED to glue them.
There is one more thing.
On one of the corners of the manifold you will have to use a T fitting. It should have a slip on one of the ends and in the middle, then the other end needs to have threads. This is for the fitting that goes out the chamber.
I used what is called a riser. It's for sprinklers.
It's 5" long and it's a black pipe that have sections of threads on it and you can cut it to different lengths.
But just keep it at 5".
Now you are going to need to drill a half inch hole in your chamber to run this riser through.
Now before you drill that hole. You are going to have to decide how high your manifold will be off the bottom of the chamber.
I keep mine at 2" off the bottom. So you would have to drill that hole 2" from the bottom. Now that you have the riser going out of the chamber you will want to put a half inch threaded female fitting with a half inch nipple. So you can hook a half inch hose to it.
You will also want to put a hole in the bottom in the middle of the chamber.
For a half inch elbow with a half inch nipple on the end for your drain hose.
Remember you will have to have your grow chamber sitting up off the floor for this drain hose. And it has to sit higher than the solution in your reservoir. So it will drain properly.
Now for your sprayers on the manifold. I run 9 of them. Use the litter plastic green sprayers that you can get at your hydro store.
There cheap and they work great.
Now I don't know how many plants you are going to grow and what you are going to use to grow them in. So you will have to drill holes in the lid of your grow chamber.
I grow in the SOG. So each of my grow chambers have 23 plants in them. So thats 23 holes I had to drill.
I don't use rock wool or them clay things. All of that is a pain in the ass. And a unnecessary cost.
All I use to grow my plants in are 2" net pots with the 2" foam inserts. And you can use these over and over. So it saves a lot of money.
Now for your reservoir, pump, filters and hoses.
Drill a half inch hole, 2" from the top and another 2" from the bottom. Right in the middle of one of the sides.
The top one is for your pump and the bottom one is for the drain hose.
You will want to use the black half inch hose you can get at your hydro store.
You will want each of your hoses to be at least 7' long.
This will give you plenty of room, just in case you have to move them. Which you will.
The filter I use is what people use on their sprinkler system.
It's black and is about 8 inches long. The hose will go on each end and the filter is in the middle. And it just unscrews. This goes on the outside of the reservoir. Anywhere on the pump line to the grow chamber.
The main reason I use this style of filter is because it is real fine. A lot finer than anything you can get at the hydro store. Plus it's easy to take part and clean every few days.
For the pump I just use a pond pump from home Depot. Don't try and use the 2 smallest ones they sell. Anything above those will work.
Thats about it good luck.
Hey mate, good setup. Build something pretty similar. If i may give you a tipp from my experiences, a bigger waterreservoir reduces maintenance by a lot. It not only reduces the times you need to add nutrients, but the ph drifts a lot slower, especially if you use tap water. The challange of the plumbing is just far greater with an extra reservoir.
Thanks for the tips!
Using a larger reservoir in a recirculating system will delay the need to replace the nutrient solution due to elemental unbalance but it wont negate it :) If you are using tapwater, its a good idea to check its elemental content.
are you suggesting to use a separate reservoir entireley?
@@CinematixActionProd Not nessessarily. Depends on your containersize. In my experience, smaller reservoirs need more frequent maintenance, but i only used tap water so far. I have build a pretty similar setup with a total capacity of 2L for 3 leafy green plants. It needed ph adjustemnts every 3-4 days and on hot days a refill every two days. I now use a 80L reservoir for 10 plants (aeroponic container with plants and reservoir are seperated) and need to refill once a month (in summer) and only make one initial ph adjustment. Same water.
Your want to paint that clear container. You will have a major algae problem eating your nutrients
You did a nice job.Definitely could have been alot more simple,that’s not fun though.I’m glad to see you get the proper tools to get it done.Working plumbing this is hilarious😂You should have plenty of power with that pump to daisy chain into two smaller tubs.It’s insane the price of fresh produce
Haha, yeah there are definitely ways this could be more efficient :) that will come in later videos
At zero flow your bilge pump will produce 1.7psi, nowhere near enough pressure to create any kind of mist :)
The 1100gph pump is better (6.4psi at zero flow) but its more washing machine on rinse cycle than aeroponic :) Aeroponics is not about how much water you can throw around, its about how little.
A little mist goes a long way, ua-cam.com/video/ObivGI9QXwk/v-deo.html
Plants dont need as much water as you imagine, same system with plants, ua-cam.com/video/iXWT1cObE6o/v-deo.html
When you put the plants in, i`d recommend just hydroton/clay pebbles in the netpots. If you use any rockwool or jiffy plug etc, it`ll become saturated in seconds, suffocate the roots or prevent any from forming.
You're correct about the PSI being inadequate. I also think I used pvc channeling that was far too large in diameter for what I needed to accomplish the task. I will be creating a new version of this system based off of the things I have learned here. Thanks for the feedback :)
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I would suggest using a cheap reverse osmosis booster pump (ideally 12v or 24v dc), a couple of 1gph tefen mist nozzles and a dc cycle timer.
The cost savings on pvc fittings (silly expensive here) would almost pay for the pump :)
@@wetwerk2178 Thanks for the informed response and the encouragement. I like the feedback I'm getting from everyone. This is all new from me, so the more info the better :)
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It seems you have no experience of genuine aeroponics, if your sprinklerponic, no timer system is working for you thats great. I can tell you without a doubt that rockwool can become oversaturated and create problems that folks initially blame on the nutrient, temperature, ph or basically everything apart from saturated rockwool. When they remove the netpot and swing it back and forth, it suddenly becomes clear what the issue is. The roots beyond the rockwool will be fine until the roots in the rockwool suffocate and root rot sets in. Fwiw, the droplet range for genuine aero is 5-80 microns, 150 micron is way too large. Here`s the closest thing i have to a low pressure aeroponic system, it runs on zero psi water pressure and would give NASA a run for their money. ua-cam.com/video/Bn_aQZR8uzc/v-deo.html
@HHCIB Hi, it was better to use a clear tub for the sake of the video! Also, can you paint it black and test it on a video, please! I don't agree with the above comment as nft systems. The rockwool is always soaked. The results would show. Thankyou.
Question where did you source your pump and nozzles from
I like your set up good job
It is always a good idea to paint over the bucket with dark paint, the more light that enters the bucket the more likely you will get algae and other pests. Other than that nice build.
With that spray volume and droplet size, you're not actually getting the benefits of aeroponics so much as creating a high-energy kratky system. Plants will grow in it, but you won't get the fine root system and higher nutrient uptake that an aeroponic system is aiming for.
You've got too many spray heads to begin with and they're too close to the roots, so you're effectively just hosing them down when ideally you want smaller droplets diffusing through the air and collecting in a fine mist on them. The weaker pump with less nozzles (and not aimed directly at the roots) will likely get you a better result.
You could also use an ultrasonic mister in a separate container that has a filtered fan to flow the mist into the grow chamber (and which will also condense the droplets on the way through so that they size up from the 1 micron size that an ultrasonic mister will produce).
But yeah, as that system is designed, you could just build a kratky system and save yourself the power cost of the pump. In a one chamber system the plants are going to eventually grow their roots down into the reservoir anyway and then the pump becomes pointless.
Hi! I'm new at this can you explain the differences between the kratky system and the one showed here? Thanks in advance 🎉
@@diegobucarey Can do!
So a Kratky system is one where the root chamber and the reservoir chamber are the same chamber (like in this case). Usually the initial water level is at or immediately below the seed level, and as the plants uptake the nutrient mix, the water level is allowed to drop some so that there is an area of root system exposed to oxygen (because plants uptake oxygen through their roots and so need this space to not drown), and an area of root system simply in the nutrient mix (because they also need to uptake nutrients through their roots). The reservoir is periodically topped up to maintain this level of nutrient mix so that the plants can continue to uptake both oxygen and nutrients/water through their roots.
So what he's done here is essentially built a Kratky system, but rather than start with a high nutrient mix level, he's just added sprayers to throw up the nutrient mix at the plants. In a proper aeroponic system, the reservoir would be separate and the spray volume would be less intense, and the droplet size would be finer, so the roots are almost being misted while otherwise being suspended in a volume of air. Any excess liquid would be allowed to drain out of the system back to the reservoir so it's just that mist-delivery that delivers nutrients to the plants. No pool at the bottom for them to waste energy growing towards.
The root systems grow differently in the two systems too - in a Kratky system you get long roots that initially spread out (because the first level grows wide due to the easier access to water when the water level was high) and then dangle down like hair, whereas in an aeroponic system you get large fractal branches as the roots try to maximise their surface area to uptake the mist.
Replace the plexiglass with LEXAN polycarbonate and you will illuminate the breaking issues while drilling. It runs a bit more in cost but it is shatter resistant and lasts far longer than plexiglass.
Good to know, thanks.
Hi sir thank you for your sharing ❤, may I know how long this pump continue work?
I don't know yet, we will see how long this lasts.
After you get the pilot hole started reverse the drill and let the weight of the drill cut the holes. Don't push down! Yes it's slow. But it greatly lessens the chance it will shatter or Crack the plastic.
you can heat a knife blade and melt the plastic to "solder" the broken piece of plastic
My pump is heating up the water to 80f, so I added a thermoelectric cooling pad to the outside. You only need 5volt because 12v will freeze thd water
Looks good! Thanks for sharing.🎉
Cool setup! Have you thought of reducing the spray volume and do you have any results you can share? Also how do you drain/ replace the water? Do you have to take everything out?
is that too much spry though. you could drown them.??
Besides that great idea my friend may try this
really want to see more on this project 👍
those impeller pump are very low pressure. its surprising it worked as well as it does.
You need to get new pvc and make sure you get all plastic shavings out so they don't stop up sprayer nozzles
Also, cut your holes in your lid on a spare bin so you don’t worry about all the plastic sawdust. And don’t use a clear container! You’ll be overwhelmed by algae.
Also connect the pump in center of the manifold
Good work. Ty for the visual.
Thank you
Please post follow up video of your algae farm, because it’s gonna be epic.
I will be adding wrapping to the basin to block out the light. You are correct though, if I left it to run as is it would most definitely become an algae farm :)
Hello I have a question, when we talk about traditional soil culivation, we need nitrifying (or more) soil bacteria and fungus that live in symbiosis with the plants to be grown, is this the same for hydroponic and aeroponic method ? can we totally make the vegetable growing without these bacteria and fungus that transform nutrients ?
light is not good for ryzom and water alges
do you have amazon list?
Next time use a hot can on a stove to cut through the top plastic, no mess.
The net cups may be a little too close to each other when the plants are well established.
Good to know, I’ll keep an eye out for this and watch as the roots develop.
@@HHCIB his right my plants grew to wide for this type of set up
Less nozzles and black walls won’t let light in there to grow algae
think I'll try with ultrasonic nebulizers and without a pump.
where to get the container
Hello. How often is the water in the reservoir changed?
красава, но вот только бак должен быть света не проницаемый, что бы вода не зацвела
how many seconds does it spray and how many minutes off? are we talking 3 seconds spray then 3 minutes off?how many seconds does it spray and how many minutes off? are we talking 3 seconds spray then 3 minutes off?
Isn’t aeroponics supposed to be more of a fog rather than like a sprinkler/spray?
Yes, by definition this isn't a true aeroponics setup. I was unable to produce a fine mist with the equipment I have. I plan on continuing to develop this project and will create a version 2 with all of the things I learned while building version 1.
did you find the plants were okay w a transparent root environment?
The transpanrent container will be painted, I only used clear so that it was visible for the video. Transparent environment would create the right conditions for algae unfortunately.
Thanks. How well did that pump work with those emitters? Did it aerosolize the spray?
It didn't create and aerosolized spray, I need to use a different type of nozzle in order to achieve that. It did create sufficient spray to move the nutrient solution over the pots though.
Why wouldn't you of done it in a black one other then that good Job way better then I could do
Thanks! I used a clear container so it would be easier to see during filming. Going to paint it or wrap it in the next video. However I’m the future I will just use black or another non-transparent material.
hey, what's size of the box?
Why would you use a clear tub?
It made for a good video, planning on wrapping it in the final setup to block light out.
Have you heard of a aeroponic tower. Its way more efficient
This is thin film not aeroponics sorry to say, technically deep water once the roots grow more than a few inches.....
Good on you for having a go, might be useful for clones.
I’m not sure I know the difference. You are correct though I didn’t get the type of aerosolization you that would qualify. Hopefully I’ll improve in future builds
@@HHCIB You need to be 90PSI or more in water pressure for aeroponics, the mist should be fine enough that is basically sits in the air instead of falling immediately to the floor. Your roots will then turn to a fuzzy mass resembling fungus.
@@quadlawnmowerman Cool, thanks for the information.
Next time put the lid on a piece of wood (stops vibration), and once you poke the guide hole thru, reverse the drill and cut the hole with the saw going reverse (slowly).. it won't break the plastic as easily.
Try less heads, you can probably get away with 3x360 heads.
1100 GPH is wayyyy overkill. . Should have used like 1/2 inch pvc. . Future reference - smaller the pipe equals more pressure. .
Smaller pipe would be worse due to the greater frictional loss.
this is correct, and I will change the diameter of the irrigation on the next version I plan on building.
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If you use an rO booster pump you can use 1/4" RO tubing and 1/4" push fittings which makes things a lot easier. The flowrate in the tubing will typically be no more than 4 GPH (4 x 1GPH nozzles). If you connect your 1000gph pump to even a short length of 1/4" tube you wont get higher pressure, you`ll just get a dribble of water from the end of the tube :)
👍 good job
Never herd someone call a "hack saw" a "pipe saw" lol.....
just use an air pump or 2.
there has to be a fog but not a big tears
If u would have used smaller pipe u wouldn't of had to buy another pump. . I'm sure it cost more than buying smaller pipe and redoing it. . But that's u brother. . Jus my opinion on what I woulda done
this is correct, and I will change the diameter of the irrigation on the next version I plan on building.
Nice!
Thanks!
To many spray heads and PVC to big. That's why not enough psi with smaller pump. Are you going to grow plants or wash your clothes?
Definitely, the next build will improve upon this.
Nice
Damn, you are handsome! 😂
Don't worry, I am normal! 😂🤣
Gotta use a mat container or you are gonna get mad algae
most people came for *5:53*
Thanks. I missed that scanning through the video.
Now how much?
I would say under $50 dollars, the pump was the most expensive part, then the pvc would have been the next most expensive pieces.
looks cool, but the real ones know about that algae...
The bin shouldn't be clear bro, will have algae issues. also better results with the pvc a little higher and nozzles pointed down, been growing like thi for 15 plus years
Thanks for the tips :)
a lot of hassle and expense to grow 8 plants
It is somewhat time intensive, but it’s been a fun project to build :)
I will tell all. To strong of a pump will destroy the roots. Learn from my mistakes😂😂😂
Never going to work. You have too much light in the res.
This is true, the resevoir will be painted in the next video. I used a clear container for the video so that all the parts were visible. Though, I failed to mention that in the video, my mistake. Thanks for adding the comment :)
this is not aeroponic. this is aquaponic
You're correct that I didn't achieve enough pressure to aeroselize the spray, which would have made this true aeroponics, so it's more of a hydroponics / aeroponics mix. I think that aquaponics is when you combine a cooperation between plants and fish.
Man this is so nice!! Do you have an email? I would pay for you to construct one if possible.
I'm not sure I plan on building custom orders. However, if there is interest, I would consider preparing kits with all parts and instructions included.
Might as well buy plastic welder
Good work 👍 . I would like to see a improvised update on this product .
And Can we use other eco friendly material in place of plastic.
Will a iron Aeroponic tower / Box work ?
No way that’s 40-50 micron