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I am 2 minutes in and would just like to say all the hard work you have been putting into equiptment and editing is really showing. Cant wait to get into your amazing research, which has always been top notch! Thanks for caring about your audience so much!
This is exactly the type of content that UA-cam enables experts (and knowledgeable amateurs) to provide. Interesting, sourced, some personal opinions and tales, with context and nuance. Excellent, and well-produced.
Do these gases still appear today at Delphi? - I wonder if there is anywhere else in the world where this is happening right now (asking for a friend). Thanks for this episode team. Awesome work!
Wauw, incredible video! Well done on the visuals and on the information. The Oracle is such a fascinating subject. As is the influence of psychoactive substances on rituals. Keep up the excellent work dr Dibble 😊
Thank you for combining poetry, archaeology and music, uniting the logical and creative sides of the brain into a single inarguable entertainment. There are more skeptical scientists who speak out against acupuncture, chiropractors and even history, and if archaeologists did that we would be making things up about how people lived. One of the unanswerable questions this leaves behind is whether people in the past were more noble than they are today, and a small branch of that question is prophesy and how it comes out to be correct.
Do you think the institution of Oracles in classical Greece is an inspiration of the mysteries in Egypt that Herodotus wrote about? How much do you think we could infer that they operated in a similar fashion?
Hey Luke, some tough questions! First off, I'd say that Herodotus had a pretty poor understanding of Egyptian cult and made them seem more "Greek" for his Greek reading audience. There's a huge number of Greco-Roman oracles, but few of them would be classified as "mystery" cults per se, and I don't think there's any good evidence that oracles developed out of Egyptian cult. Instead, the concept of oracular prophecy was pretty commonplace around hte Mediterranean, and at times could manfiest itself as a large sanctuary/institution like at Delphi. But it also included a wide range of individual prophetic types as well (auguries, rolling the knucklebones, or even reading the patterns of oil in a lamp). I tend to think we need to understand different cultures on their own terms. We have enough evidence from the Greek world to see the range of their operation, without a need to draw on Egyptian cult to explain it. Hope htat helps!
Amazing content. Your editing improved greatly, and love the real archeology than the sensationalize bs that filled the internet. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for this intriguing piece about the Delphic Oracle. They ( it? she?) are a fascinating area of the past. How did they affect history? A little? A lot? Not at all? It would be fascinating to be able to see a record of their responses and of what actually occurred after a consultation with the Pythia. The messages from the Delphic Oracle, that I recall, bear such a strong resemblance to back assward speaking as to be practically useless until after the event when the oracular message can be "interpreted" in such a way that it looks remarkably prescient. Also, we only know about the predictions/messages that did fit the situation. Or could be interpreted in a way as to fit what happened after their visit to the oracle. What about the other cryptic ramblings that may have come from the Pythia? Were they even a little close or so far out to lunch that the petitioner felt baffled by bull pucky? Someone needs to invent time travel. Now! Please!?! There are so many questions that could be answered. Mysteries solved.
I honestly prefer this to the debunking stuff, knowing the importance of that. All this editing is time consuming, but the end result is awesome. Hope it's worth it , to give us some more content.
For the sake of our nation’s collective intelligence, please- you gotta keep on goin with this convivial, yet deep, and also smartas@ educational potion only you can bring to the table. Only you. Can’t stop. No pressure.
@@commandercow8930 I love collaborating with Flint! I can’t wait for more videos- it will definitely inspire me to keep making music! (I’m on Spotify: Bettina Joy de Guzman)
I've always thought the Oracle at Delphi was a very odd fixture in Greek history, but in a very mysterious and interesting way. The institution of the Oracle had such power. It's no surprise it is the stuff of legend.
I have lived by Angkor for many years, and what you say is true. Archaeologists work with epigraphists, architects, historians, stonemasons, lidar experts, biologists, pilots (though they use drones more these days) , geologists, climatologists, hydrologists and many other specialised professionals. Makes going to the pub interesting, I can tell you.
I loved this style of video, purely academic yet you’ve gotten very good at adding so much art and romance to the video it’s very entertaining and quality. Your one of my favorite people on the internet, I’m 22 btw and I hope the hate online slows to a halt because you don’t need that shit at my age.😂 Keep it up!
Thanks for this, especially for the ending... I've always wondered what a real lyre sounds like. Very pleasant and to hear it so well played by a pretty girl is a bonus! 😊
Great video👍stoned goats👍👍 Like with the Pythie, humans love a good story. But unfortunately we don't like listening to stories that are not finished, not explained, left open. This, I think is one of the reasons that psydo-archeology gets so much attention! They finish the story, no loose ends, which of course is just not possible to do in archeology nor history ! If we interest ourselves it becomes more solving enigmes than listening to a story... and that's when the loose ends become interesting !
@FlintDibble interesting video. It's so cool to hear #RealHistory from real archeologists. The pics were great. I appreciated the ending where you explained the mission of archeologists. Looking forward to the next one.
'Was she stoned'? Judging from the vague gibberish she spouted I'd say ...er Yes? Actually I thought this was assumed years ago. In the distant pre You Tube era 😅
Good drug users, only 9 times a year! ;) How is the day after inhaling these gases? Does it have longterm effects on your body? If the people wants to go on inhaling (Lockhardt), why only 9 times a year, and not in winter? Thanks for new interesting questions, mr. Dibble :)
The ancients, including the ancient Greeks, we're aware of and partook of various mind altering drugs. So if the delphic prophecies were the product of some sort of hallucinogenic substance, there's no particular reason it needed to be a gas. It could assistance easily have been something they drank or ate.
Yes but the gas theory makes sense given the geological discoveries he mentioned plus the fact that the ancient records mention that the vapors and oracle's powers would appear or disappear at different times. If the hallucinogenic state was imparted by a drug supplied like food or drink, then its occurrence wouldn't vary in that way.
@Yusuf1187 1. The whole thing was arranged by humans. If they were dependent on some infrequent random geologic process the Oracle wouldn't be able to provide timely prophecies. 2. Ethylene is flammable and lighter than air. It's going to take a significant quantity to sufficiently raise the concentration in the atmosphere sufficient to induce the necessary mental state. Yet given that lighting was provided by open flames, how would they not have explosions and or fire?
She didnt say that Socrates was the wisest of all. She sayd that noone was wiser that Socrates. And I dont agree with Socrates, when you are wise, there is no degree, so everyone can be as wise as Socrates.
It is far less the physiology of the mysteries than the culture & training (whether explicit & bounded or diffuse & implicit) to participate in them. One can see this in how some ah... psychodelic fadsters bloviate on warmed over tautologies, solipsisms & nonsense, seeking to fix with intoxicants their own lackings.
If Kaldi’s goats had traveled from Ethiopia to Greece might they have discovered Coffee Plants there too? : ) Perhaps you might invite Wade Davis on your next investigation trip to Delphi…
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I am 2 minutes in and would just like to say all the hard work you have been putting into equiptment and editing is really showing. Cant wait to get into your amazing research, which has always been top notch! Thanks for caring about your audience so much!
Thanks!
Yeah, was just going to say the editing is quite good. Impressive Flint just picked that up (assuming he's the one doing it)
This is exactly the type of content that UA-cam enables experts (and knowledgeable amateurs) to provide. Interesting, sourced, some personal opinions and tales, with context and nuance.
Excellent, and well-produced.
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Do these gases still appear today at Delphi? - I wonder if there is anywhere else in the world where this is happening right now (asking for a friend). Thanks for this episode team. Awesome work!
Great question. Inquiring minds want to know 🤔
Wauw, incredible video! Well done on the visuals and on the information. The Oracle is such a fascinating subject. As is the influence of psychoactive substances on rituals. Keep up the excellent work dr Dibble 😊
A very informative and well put together doc. The work that has gone into this is very much appreciated.
Thank you for combining poetry, archaeology and music, uniting the logical and creative sides of the brain into a single inarguable entertainment. There are more skeptical scientists who speak out against acupuncture, chiropractors and even history, and if archaeologists did that we would be making things up about how people lived. One of the unanswerable questions this leaves behind is whether people in the past were more noble than they are today, and a small branch of that question is prophesy and how it comes out to be correct.
Banger topic, excited to hear what you have to say given your first hand experience with ancient greek archaeology. Gonna be a good one!
9:50 My favorite quote from this video by far. “Cute and crazy” indeed 😂
Always great work! The Pythia told me this would be a great episode! 🐍😈
Really really great video flint!
Awesome video. Thanks for the details!
The intro....is....epic..... awesome work!
This is fascinating stuff! 👏
Do you think the institution of Oracles in classical Greece is an inspiration of the mysteries in Egypt that Herodotus wrote about?
How much do you think we could infer that they operated in a similar fashion?
Hey Luke, some tough questions! First off, I'd say that Herodotus had a pretty poor understanding of Egyptian cult and made them seem more "Greek" for his Greek reading audience.
There's a huge number of Greco-Roman oracles, but few of them would be classified as "mystery" cults per se, and I don't think there's any good evidence that oracles developed out of Egyptian cult. Instead, the concept of oracular prophecy was pretty commonplace around hte Mediterranean, and at times could manfiest itself as a large sanctuary/institution like at Delphi. But it also included a wide range of individual prophetic types as well (auguries, rolling the knucklebones, or even reading the patterns of oil in a lamp).
I tend to think we need to understand different cultures on their own terms. We have enough evidence from the Greek world to see the range of their operation, without a need to draw on Egyptian cult to explain it.
Hope htat helps!
The Man, The Myth, The Dibble.
I'm mew to your work. Great video. Captivating. Keep doing what you're doing please.
I got lucky enough to visit there for a couple days. Delphi is indeed incredibly beautiful
Great video Flint! Way to 'debunk' this particular myth.
Thanks!
Love it Flint!
Amazing content. Your editing improved greatly, and love the real archeology than the sensationalize bs that filled the internet. Keep up the good work.
Very informative video! Thank you Flint! 🙏
Thanks for this intriguing piece about the Delphic Oracle. They ( it? she?) are a fascinating area of the past.
How did they affect history? A little? A lot? Not at all?
It would be fascinating to be able to see a record of their responses and of what actually occurred after a consultation with the Pythia.
The messages from the Delphic Oracle, that I recall, bear such a strong resemblance to back assward speaking as to be practically useless until after the event when the oracular message can be "interpreted" in such a way that it looks remarkably prescient.
Also, we only know about the predictions/messages that did fit the situation. Or could be interpreted in a way as to fit what happened after their visit to the oracle.
What about the other cryptic ramblings that may have come from the Pythia? Were they even a little close or so far out to lunch that the petitioner felt baffled by bull pucky?
Someone needs to invent time travel. Now! Please!?! There are so many questions that could be answered. Mysteries solved.
This is really great, Flint! I already knew a bit about this but still learned a lot.
I honestly prefer this to the debunking stuff, knowing the importance of that. All this editing is time consuming, but the end result is awesome. Hope it's worth it , to give us some more content.
This dibbled my fancy!
Well done 🎉🎉🎉
For the sake of our nation’s collective intelligence, please- you gotta keep on goin with this convivial, yet deep, and also smartas@ educational potion only you can bring to the table. Only you. Can’t stop. No pressure.
Thanks so much, Sarita! 😊
Great video flint
There is also a video on this same topic at the _Religion for Breakfast_ channel.
Thanks for sharing this. It was super informative, thanks for sharing this music too!
@@commandercow8930 I love collaborating with Flint! I can’t wait for more videos- it will definitely inspire me to keep making music! (I’m on Spotify: Bettina Joy de Guzman)
I've always thought the Oracle at Delphi was a very odd fixture in Greek history, but in a very mysterious and interesting way. The institution of the Oracle had such power. It's no surprise it is the stuff of legend.
a role of the goat bones... i am hooked on where this is going....
Hello Professor Dibble
"Drugs, scenery, ritual, and goats" is one heck of a tagline 😂
It is interesting to see how interdisciplinary archaeology is. It is like all of the sciences combined into one, plus some humanities on top of that.
I have lived by Angkor for many years, and what you say is true. Archaeologists work with epigraphists, architects, historians, stonemasons, lidar experts, biologists, pilots (though they use drones more these days) , geologists, climatologists, hydrologists and many other specialised professionals.
Makes going to the pub interesting, I can tell you.
thx Flint, great essay! by the by, there'sa typo in the link to realarchaeology, an extra 'd', breaks the link
Excited to see this increased production and stellar editing, great work to the team!
Flint, what a genius!!! Greatings from Argentina! How can one contribute to your work?
Very interesting topic. Especially for someone who loves history of Ancient Greece.
Another wonderful video. Thank you!
15:03 the kind of studies i would have loved
“This place is weird.” - The Goats
I loved this style of video, purely academic yet you’ve gotten very good at adding so much art and romance to the video it’s very entertaining and quality. Your one of my favorite people on the internet, I’m 22 btw and I hope the hate online slows to a halt because you don’t need that shit at my age.😂 Keep it up!
SPHS is also the abbreviation of the hospital where I work.
May you be well fumigated, Flint! Cheers!
Wow...this was fascinating as hell. Please make more mythological/Legend videos, with your history knowledge behind it.
I second that. Mythology told through historical evidence would be fascinating.
@The.BansheeRose Thank you! Yes, it surely would!
Oh that's where the word "stoned" comes from 🤔
Delphinitly watch this video!
YES
Thanks for this, especially for the ending... I've always wondered what a real lyre sounds like. Very pleasant and to hear it so well played by a pretty girl is a bonus! 😊
❤I’m also on Spotify: Bettina Joy de Guzman
Great video👍stoned goats👍👍 Like with the Pythie, humans love a good story. But unfortunately we don't like listening to stories that are not finished, not explained, left open. This, I think is one of the reasons that psydo-archeology gets so much attention! They finish the story, no loose ends, which of course is just not possible to do in archeology nor history ! If we interest ourselves it becomes more solving enigmes than listening to a story... and that's when the loose ends become interesting !
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sad that you have to do a speech about how it really works in Archaeology at the end of a video but I do understand why.
I do believe I read this in a Manly P Hall book once…
I think the goat did it
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Try port talbot bro!
The intro with the whispers was long.
Still enjoyed the video tho.
@FlintDibble interesting video. It's so cool to hear #RealHistory from real archeologists. The pics were great. I appreciated the ending where you explained the mission of archeologists.
Looking forward to the next one.
The question is, high off of what?
What's it like to be a meme like Ken Bone or Hugh Mungus?
'Was she stoned'? Judging from the vague gibberish she spouted I'd say ...er Yes?
Actually I thought this was assumed years ago. In the distant pre You Tube era 😅
Good drug users, only 9 times a year! ;)
How is the day after inhaling these gases? Does it have longterm effects on your body? If the people wants to go on inhaling (Lockhardt), why only 9 times a year, and not in winter?
Thanks for new interesting questions, mr. Dibble :)
the first Schtick
The ancients, including the ancient Greeks, we're aware of and partook of various mind altering drugs. So if the delphic prophecies were the product of some sort of hallucinogenic substance, there's no particular reason it needed to be a gas. It could assistance easily have been something they drank or ate.
Yes but the gas theory makes sense given the geological discoveries he mentioned plus the fact that the ancient records mention that the vapors and oracle's powers would appear or disappear at different times. If the hallucinogenic state was imparted by a drug supplied like food or drink, then its occurrence wouldn't vary in that way.
@Yusuf1187 1. The whole thing was arranged by humans. If they were dependent on some infrequent random geologic process the Oracle wouldn't be able to provide timely prophecies.
2. Ethylene is flammable and lighter than air. It's going to take a significant quantity to sufficiently raise the concentration in the atmosphere sufficient to induce the necessary mental state. Yet given that lighting was provided by open flames, how would they not have explosions and or fire?
She didnt say that Socrates was the wisest of all. She sayd that noone was wiser that Socrates. And I dont agree with Socrates, when you are wise, there is no degree, so everyone can be as wise as Socrates.
🤔Don't some Archeologists glue monkey bones to human ones to prove their theories???😝 Great Video
Did y'all know flint dibble stars in a movie it's called "onyx the fortuitous talisman of souls" look it up your welcome 😂
m'lady
What if the fumes were hades fartin and maybe even shittin a little, dibble?
Why is this comment section filled with dad jokes
It is far less the physiology of the mysteries than the culture & training (whether explicit & bounded or diffuse & implicit) to participate in them.
One can see this in how some ah... psychodelic fadsters bloviate on warmed over tautologies, solipsisms & nonsense, seeking to fix with intoxicants their own lackings.
The pythian priestess partakes of powerful pneuma possibly perhaps poisons persuade poetic prophecy
1m 40s THOSE ARE VULTURES!!!!!
Historical mysteries and drug-related trances? Are you trying to get back on Joe Rogan again? 😂😛
If Kaldi’s goats had traveled from Ethiopia to Greece might they have discovered Coffee Plants there too? : ) Perhaps you might invite Wade Davis on your next investigation trip to Delphi…
“Settled science” is an oxymoron.