The Medieval Bank, the Medici and the Church! Economics!
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- In today’s episode, Sidetrack Episode 71, Today I have a special episode that was previously released as special bonus episode on Patreon, since I am no longer on Patreon, I wanted to release it as a thank you to everyone for listening. This episode is titled The Church and Bank. I explore the development of banking during the middle ages and how the Church was involved in the movement of money and resources throughout Europe. The Popes of Rome had and have a great deal of resources at hand and how they managed those resources is fascinating and important to the development of the Western economy throughout history.
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Love me some Economic History, thank you for this.
when you mentioned the Nobles, Crusaders and transporting Coin long distance - I think you got this turned around. The Nobles were expanding their blood lust for wealth and so needed to HIRE MERCENARIES and therefore the Nobles needed to take out loans to hire more soldiers to create private armies. The value of currency money has ALWAYS been tied to being enforced by the thug militaries, just as China created the FIRST paper currency with the value enforced by the Chinese military.
four Medici Popes! hilarious.
The Medici I believe produced four Popes of the Catholic Church being Pope Leo X (1513-1521), Pope Clement VII (1523-1534), Pope Pius IV (1559-1565) and Pope Leo XI (1605.)
Isn't lending also the reason why Jewish people in middle ages were persecuted from time to time.
I read this book called "Gold and Spices" because it inspired Spice and Wolf and I have to say... Medieval trading from a merchants perspective is fascinating. The fact that entire trades of a town can be halted because a new route is discovered is really interesting because a town can literally fall into chaos just because some dude found a route to another town that is easier. There's just a lot in that book, you should check it out.
Very similar to the US interstate system
I’m gonna check out the book you mentioned. For what it’s worth, I really enjoyed “A Splendid Exchange” by William Bernstein.
A great anime about trade. Love the series
I added this video to my playlist "Trade, Renaissance, Globalization - Road to Modernity"
I would like to see a podcast on the migration and genealogy of these banking family's to the present. and there influence today
Bobbyj438 funny how he says they are Italian and calls out Templar Christians but he doesn’t mention the fact that these financier families were Jewish who preyed on Christendom downfall
Research venetians and phoenicians.
Knights templar usury
Knights Templar portugal/ king of spain
Also history time utube channel is fantastic
And Robert Sepehr/atlantean gardens utube. He is my favourite source
Same
Thought about this too - “Elite Money Trail: From Medici To JP Morgan”
You need to cut the lead in music by 95%. A 5 second clip would be fine.
lol i thought so too. although i checked and it was less than 1 min 30 sec, it felt like an eternity. actually the medival music intro is sufficient and appropriate i think.
Agree
Agree! I appreciate it and it looks great. Just too long
Art. Music is time to look at the art, scenes in Italy.
Thanks for putting out longer videos that don't try to edit as much common information as possible into 5 minutes.
Glad you like them!
Awesome Video!!! Thank You!!!😊
This was a wonderful video. You can do little without commerce! That is why the Renaissance happened in Italy! Great content!
I will keep listening to your data, and match your data with my geneological data of Italy. Thanks!
@@annjoyce579 Do you have anything on the Medici that traces them and their movements before they became wool traders and then bankers?
I'm watching all the commercials and clicking thumbs up before even watching! That's how much I love your channel! Keep up the excellent work. :)
I appreciate that and thank you so much!
I came at this from the perspective of walking away from a ground zero event after seeing the causes of civilization collapse. It just felt to current to what we are seeing right now. Then to go through all those developments as though that is what we may look forward to. To understand the psychology behind the developments is eye-opening! Quite interesting indeed.
Really well done history lesson, TY for creating!
Learned more details on Templar demise cause. Didn't know they were 'bankers' so far flung. Interesting, the way the debtors got out of debt. Perhaps we could do the same, but without the harm to life and property. Hmmmm...
Excellent. Assigning this video to my middle schoolers.
Very interesting information- thank you.
Love these bonus content episodes!
Very enjoyable thank you
Two books and authors to look up; God and Mammon-Chronicles of American Money by Lance Morrow, and Forgive Them Their Debts by Prof. Michael Hudson.
Very good thank you!
Some more currencies and policies
Is there any information covering the beginning of the bankers' guild and trade?
Just discovered your work. Well done, I much enjoy.
This was all extremely interesting, thank you for your videos!
Also, I would totally buy a dukes of Florence t shirt
Fantastic documentary on history of banking. Some of commentators have asked whether there was any existence of societies without ruling class dominating.
Can state research references now. But European history and socioeconomic system was always pyramidal. So it was always based on some ruling class / elites / noble men. It was result of an worldview that’s of control and efficiency (decision making gets easier when things are pyramidal or hierarchical). On the contrary, aboriginals and tribals and natives of colonies often had decentralised system or system of governance rooted upon sustainability and reverence to nature (ex, Australian aboriginals).
Problem was that those decentralised governance systems didn’t scale, so hierarchical or pyramidal systems took over in form of institutions or governments or corporations. Initially commoners (“worker class” as it was known those days) thought ill-effects of that pyramidal system wouldn’t affect them. But after abolition of traditional colonisation, with the help of central banks, governments of euro-centric countries started exploiting their own citizens.
But now after 6000 years, we finally have the technology where one can create, incentivise and govern decentralised communities at scale, via blockchain.
Cool content thanks
I enjoyed this episode very much and I found it very informative. One focus area in history that I am interested in is the histories of the nobility, the aristocracy, the power elite. Historians often seem to take the existence of a ruling class for granted, but I would like to know just exactly who was in control of events at any given time and place, and just exactly how they got into that position. Then ideally I would like to be able to trace things forward to the present day. Has there ever been a time and place where the ruling class disappeared for a non-trivial period? Were the members of a ruling class ever members of that class for reasons other than birth or ancestry? Of course there are always exceptions to a rule or generality, but that is not exactly what I'm asking. For example, if one examines the histories of the European colonies, did a ruling class ever arise that was not based on the ruling class of the home country?
Can state research references now. But European history and socioeconomic system was always pyramidal. So it was always based on sole ruling class / elites / noble men. It was result of an worldview that’s of control and efficiency (decision making gets easier when things are pyramidal or hierarchical). On the contrary, aboriginals and tribals and natives often had decentralised system or system rooted upon sustainability and reverence to nature (ex, Australian aboriginals). Problem was that those decentralised governance systems didn’t scale, so hierarchical or pyramidal systems took over in form of institutions or governments or corporations. But now after 6000 years, we finally have the technology where one can create, incentivise and govern decentralised communities at scale, via blockchain.
Very interesting, thank you.
More please
I like it thank U
Yes great info, that explains a lot. More please:)
Outstanding video - very informative.
More economic stuff!!
Love it. Keep it up.
Loved the content! Please do more, subscribing now!
You have to ask for a large coffee at seven bucks. Strange you dont really hear about the cathars in these times..how did they go bankrupt again?
Some good stuff here man
I could learn a lot from you. Thank you!
1:35 start of video
I had no idea about the Templar’s side banking hustle
This is a cool video, I'm glad I stumbled upon it
Serious question: if Rlman numerals were basically impossible to use for mathematical computation, then how did they plan and build all that stuff, i.e. roads, aqueducts, multi story edifices, domes, arches, etc?
Difficult but not impossible. and they used abaci for easier/quick calculation
Did the Medici have Templar connections since they have the fleur de Lys on their crest?
What's the music used ae around @28:00 minutes in?
Isn't lending also the reason why Jewish people in middle ages were persecuted from time to time.
SAI RADHA yes that is absolutely correct. The Jews were specifically targeted in the Inquisitions for a variety of reasons including Usury and fake stereotypes.
Most of these claims are misleading and or were completely uncommon practices, I view the ''claims'' made against Jews in the Inquisition in the manner of the ''accusations'' against the Templars.
Moving other peoples decimal point .thats that magic trick
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 and the witch hunts? I have a chapter in my book, 2012, Alchemy of Rainbow Heart Music (free online pdf) called Antisemitism and Antiscience. It's the Hellenization of Judaism that really needs to be studied.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Any chance you can do a video sometime on banking and it's relationship to Serfdom?
This is all good and nice but where is the book list so i can read myself? Been stuck with a list from the University of Liviv on the subject.
I’m confused. I thought the Templar’s jobs were to help the knights protect their money whilst they fought in the Holy Land. Are you saying the Knights Templar were also fighting? Who looked after their provisions
They were very effective and disciplined fighters actually.
Provisions were done by lay Brothers and non military brothers as well as lessors like other monastic orders.
The templars had a large fleet used for logistics
No mention of these banking families not being Christian and somewhat hostile toward Christians and their order
Great vid. Very informative. Thanks!
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yes very not only enjoyable but informative what about 1562 on or around is that within your scope of seeing the past-just looking for clues when we were close to creative wave of humanity and what happened and by whom-like banking and fake credit paper monies-love the partner up thing-networked knowledge like spokes of wheel but just more cosmic=manythxs-keep em coming pls
You miss out a major technical concern of your Templar Banking Model. Where did the Templars get their banking know-how from? It cannot have been from the clergy bcuz they absolved themselves from money matters as you correctly state bcuz of usury.
The other thing that should be interesting to people is that the Templar knights had a more complex genesis than merely evolving into a multi national bank to finance crusades.
More research needed to make this more interesting than any of the other Templar videos.
Military men started Knight's Templar to safeguard holy bloodline and holy gold long ago. Royals wed the line, alot-- Li of China, religious leaders, dukes as Visconti, Sforza, Orsini, then Medici Wed archduke Ferdinand Von habsburg royals then branches wed french, British royals. Eventually wed Von rothschild marriage two adolph carl married 8th duke argyll george campbell the last Commander of the knight's templar (99% family was murdered, as thieves sought to steal gold and banks). You're accurate. Military necessary to safeguard duty.
@@annjoyce579 Thanks, that's a really interesting reply, especially about the Medici involvement. Have you done any research on this? The military knights (the original 9 Templars) all came from France and journeyed to Jerusalem themselves at first, perhaps to recce the route and assess the enemy strengths/vulnerabilities. It would have been a suicide mission to make that trip as a knight with no soldiers as supporting troops, so it's likely that these 9 knights already knew about the route or had a Jewish guide and could travel incognito to Jerusalem. It seems that these knights were connected through the Benedictine priests and the Jewish principality of southern France called Septimania. It would not surprise me at all if these first Templar knights had Jewish Origins and were supported later on by other Jews that managed the banking and logistical operations. Imagine the irony of the situation if this were the case, a whole knightly order set up to defend the faith of Christian Europe but headed and managed by Jews (their sworn enemies). It would make sense of everything about the Templars, where their knowledge came from, why they were motivated to fight the muslims to win back their holy land and also the mystery about why they were disbanded. It was common practice in mediaeval times to default on Jewish loans and if it had been learned that the Templars really were Jewish at the top, then it would explain the king of France wishing to expose this fact. Of course the Pope could not allow this information to go public as it would destroy the Church's credibility with commoners and kings alike, so he had no choice but to disband the order on accusations that were normally made against the Jews before they were burned at the stake.
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How did Cosimo builc hid international business?
Really expected this comment section to be way worse
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Were the templars, jews?
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the intro should be much much shorter, clicking off the video cuz that shit was ludicrous
I am a sucker for intros :)