Yes, you can connect directly into cooker switch. The CCU just makes connection a little easier, if more expensive. But if switch is flush with the wall, the oven cord should enter it from below through a conduit or cut-out in the wall so that it can be easily removed if necessary, i.e. not plastered in. If the switch is mounted on a pattress (which is usually ugly), the cable should enter through the side of that. The switch iself must be accessible and located within 2m of the cooker (to allow easy switch-off) and not directly above it.
@@harstan7333 @Nick Stanbury When moving house, I can see an unswitched outlet being the safest way to leave a cable, instead like I normally find cables just hanging out the wall behind the cooker with a bit of tape on it!. What is law in regards how your supposed to leave cables like that?. Would it be ok to remove the live and neutral wires and fuse from the switch above the worktop (and leave a note) or is that still not deemed safe enough?
You'd have to use 6mm cable to a switched fuse connection unit. FROM There you can connect your hob and downsize to 0.75mm or 1mm heat resistant ho7 flex cable. 3 Amp fuse remember
Hi sorry to bother you but i asking for some free advice if thats ok, im having a problem with my eletric cooker and thats the wire connectors at the back, where the main eletric wires connects to the cooker on the back, i think the damp is getting to mine and they keep going rusty and snapping off, the main eletric cooper wire has gone green which is due to damp isnt it? and thats made the connector go rusty and snapp off, well i thinks that the problem unless there is something else wrong which i dont know, any help very greteful. thanks matt
Yes Matt. The wires cannot touch anything that is wet or damp also check the wires connection if they are well screwed , terminated as it can cause fire.
More likely to be heating of the cable due to loose connections or a size of cable which doesn't handle the demand of the cooker or the rating of the MCB which protects the circuit. Usually a cooker should be on minimum of a 6mm cable.
Just had a disagreement with a gas engineer working in a diy shop, who told me regulations state a 10 m cable must be used..?? The cable is to big for the cooker terminal and the same with wall plate can not fit? Is there any thing I should be doing I've checked my cooker manual and it says 6m .. cable. The guy said we no longer use it and had none in stock Which was a lie ! When I pointed to sum 6m he said Oh that's 4m..! I left the shop wondering ... I should have never walked into the shop and ask for some COOKER WIRE .. wire POLICE everywhere.. lol..
@@maxwellmc9734 Hi i purchased a 9.5 kw shower for £199 installed myself to save money plumbing only ,my local sparkie came to connect up .bob its to powerfull for my cable 6mm .( reason ) he would not install was because the wire would become to hot using this appliance took it off purchased a 8.5 for £ 199. thats fine running on a 6mm cable .lesson learnd. best regards
I dont seem to have come across a video that shows how to connect the cable to the actual cooker! There only showing me how to connect a wire to the fuse box on the wall ☹
Wife wants a change from gas hob to ceramic hob,can a 6 mm cable wire into a 13amp plug! I have a 45 amp cooker wall switch feeding electric oven, with a plug socket in it,idea was to fit cable into plug.drill worktop,run cable to new hob,it wouldn’t be possible to pull away fitted cupboards,,so just go behind drawer,through one cupboard to hob,any ideas or info please 03/10/2019 thanx.
Hi mate. Sorry to bother you, just have a questions becouse I cant find any video. How to move this oven power socket from one wall to another? Just wonder if I can extend the wire,run them under floor and instal new on the other wall? Thank you in advance 👍
No as if I was gas cooker u can as far as I'm aware...but an electric cooker would require much more power and a 3 pin plug has a 13amp fuse so wouldn't work
@@whitebeltlyfbjj3393 I was actually thinking of installing it back home in Bangladesh… they don’t have 3 pin but 2 pin plugs and I’m don’t think they have earth cable … so wanted to use this
I only have a three pin socket on the wall behind the cooker when plug in cooker to socket oven was working for a while but now plug fuse is blowing. No cooker connection showing on the CU. What is the solution for this?
If I'm not mistaken the 3 pin socket outlet is only for gas cooker as its used for spart for gas...so it uses way less power and can be put on socket outlet....whilst electric cooker oven need 6 mil and be wired into appropriate cooker unit because it requires much more power and need a separate circuit other wise if put on ring will overload
It's down to power of the hob. 13A at 240V = 3120W power (P = V*I, ignoring power factor), so a low power hob may come with a 13A plug that can be plugged into a standard (UK) socket. Higher power hobs (e.g. my 8600W amazon special) comes with a hefty flex cable pre-wired to the hob, but which must be hard-wired into a 45A cooker connection unit (CCU) that is isolated using a 45A cooker switch. HTH
For UK single phase supply: yellow/green = Earth, blue = neutral, red & brown are 2 separate live cables: join together and wire into the live terminal of the cooker connection unit. I think that the separate lives may be connected separately when using multi-phase supplies: this is normally explained by a sticker on the hob / installation manual.
He took my roaster oven apart so I could clean it. The more I saw the more cleaning it needed. Now he can't put it back together. Can someone please tell me how to do it myself? Please...its a 16 qt electric Rival roaster oven. I don't want to throw it away.
In what way isn't it? Start with the diagram at the start and end (5:31) shows it. We have a dedicated radial circuit with suitable size conductors. It starts with a cable from the CU to the double pole isolator. then a cable running from the double pole isolator to the terminal block. Finally a cable running from the terminal block to the cooker. All CPCs that were visible have been sleeved. (terminal block terminations for both cables) The one thing that wasn't mentioned was the size of the MCB. However this isn't about wiring in the whole circuit, just the final terminations from the fixed wiring out onto the cable for the cooker. Yes, safe isolation should have been mentioned, but in reality that is the only issue I have found.
@@cjmillsnun he neglects the fact that ppl looking up YT videos to wire an appliance like this are by definition,novices, and often miss the most basic of safety practices so he should always assume the YTer is an idiot and should incl step by step process incl safety advice and safe practices, eg safe disconnection at board. secondly as you say he omitted the fuse/breaker size for the load of the oven, can be 10-20kW in my experience for domestic appliances, so the protection will vary form oven to oven; thirdly , the way he secured the conductors was not best practice , in fact if an apprentice of mine did that i would fail him
@@giggergigger1 Good afternoon maybe you can help me been in the building game myself on and off ,retired now ! the question i am asking would be the same as if i was on site,simply new built in ovens with plugs Neff have told me i can take the plug off the oven i like not loosing my warranty, I am sure it may be ok to install the plug wire onto the 6mm hard wire outlet. that had the older oven was on I have had a latest type consumer unit fitted recently , for peice of mind this flat of mine is only 2 decades old in round figures. Advices are allways wellcome black to black red to red green to green above that Ask thats me.thank you best regards bob lowe.
I've got to go and do a cooker job and they have no connection like this one in the video so I'm going to wire it straight to the cooker socket 🙄 I know it's a scruffy way but it's the only way of doing it unless the single plug socket behind the cooker like in this video is 6mil cable I'll remove that and buy a cooker terminal box and use that
Man your videos are very easy and simple to understand keep doing this good job
I have a new hob with a cable that has 5 wires. Do they go in the same way as a 3 wire cable?
Good videos mate. What is the purpose of the connection unit? Cant we just connect the cooker straight from the cooker switch?
Cheers
Yes, you can connect directly into cooker switch. The CCU just makes connection a little easier, if more expensive. But if switch is flush with the wall, the oven cord should enter it from below through a conduit or cut-out in the wall so that it can be easily removed if necessary, i.e. not plastered in. If the switch is mounted on a pattress (which is usually ugly), the cable should enter through the side of that. The switch iself must be accessible and located within 2m of the cooker (to allow easy switch-off) and not directly above it.
@@harstan7333 @Nick Stanbury When moving house, I can see an unswitched outlet being the safest way to leave a cable, instead like I normally find cables just hanging out the wall behind the cooker with a bit of tape on it!. What is law in regards how your supposed to leave cables like that?.
Would it be ok to remove the live and neutral wires and fuse from the switch above the worktop (and leave a note) or is that still not deemed safe enough?
can i connect my gas hob thats uses mains power for ignition on this cooker unit?
You'd have to use 6mm cable to a switched fuse connection unit. FROM There you can connect your hob and downsize to 0.75mm or 1mm heat resistant ho7 flex cable. 3 Amp fuse remember
Hi sorry to bother you but i asking for some free advice if thats ok, im having a problem with my eletric cooker and thats the wire connectors at the back, where the main eletric wires connects to the cooker on the back, i think the damp is getting to mine and they keep going rusty and snapping off, the main eletric cooper wire has gone green which is due to damp isnt it? and thats made the connector go rusty and snapp off, well i thinks that the problem unless there is something else wrong which i dont know, any help very greteful.
thanks
matt
Yes Matt. The wires cannot touch anything that is wet or damp also check the wires connection if they are well screwed , terminated as it can cause fire.
More likely to be heating of the cable due to loose connections or a size of cable which doesn't handle the demand of the cooker or the rating of the MCB which protects the circuit. Usually a cooker should be on minimum of a 6mm cable.
Just had a disagreement with a gas engineer working in a diy shop, who told me regulations state a 10 m cable must be used..?? The cable is to big for the cooker terminal and the same with wall plate can not fit? Is there any thing I should be doing I've checked my cooker manual and it says 6m .. cable. The guy said we no longer use it and had none in stock Which was a lie ! When I pointed to sum 6m he said Oh that's 4m..!
I left the shop wondering ... I should have never walked into the shop and ask for some COOKER WIRE .. wire POLICE everywhere.. lol..
@@maxwellmc9734 Hi i purchased a 9.5 kw shower for £199 installed myself to save money plumbing only ,my local sparkie came to connect up .bob its to powerfull for my cable 6mm .( reason ) he would not install was because the wire would become to hot using this appliance took it off purchased a 8.5 for £ 199. thats fine running on a 6mm cable .lesson learnd. best regards
Is it cool 2 wire up my hob ,plus extractor fan,and oven ,,would it be cool 2 put it into the cooker plate
I'd like to do the same, do you know if that is possible?
@@CB_883 yeah m8 a wired the 2 off them 2 the cooker plate.
good luck bud
@@allyquinn4587 how about the extractor hood?
@@CB_883a fans need 2 be plugged or wired into kitchen socket ring, m8
I dont seem to have come across a video that shows how to connect the cable to the actual cooker! There only showing me how to connect a wire to the fuse box on the wall ☹
Get an electrician
Wife wants a change from gas hob to ceramic hob,can a 6 mm cable wire into a 13amp plug! I have a 45 amp cooker wall switch feeding electric oven, with a plug socket in it,idea was to fit cable into plug.drill worktop,run cable to new hob,it wouldn’t be possible to pull away fitted cupboards,,so just go behind drawer,through one cupboard to hob,any ideas or info please 03/10/2019 thanx.
Allen Braithwaite No
Hi mate.
Sorry to bother you, just have a questions becouse I cant find any video.
How to move this oven power socket from one wall to another?
Just wonder if I can extend the wire,run them under floor and instal new on the other wall?
Thank you in advance 👍
Where can I find or what are these connections called?
Can I not connect to a normal 3 pin plug and plug it in the socket?
No as if I was gas cooker u can as far as I'm aware...but an electric cooker would require much more power and a 3 pin plug has a 13amp fuse so wouldn't work
@@whitebeltlyfbjj3393 I was actually thinking of installing it back home in Bangladesh… they don’t have 3 pin but 2 pin plugs and I’m don’t think they have earth cable … so wanted to use this
@@nislam16 funny thing is I'm bengali from uk..im sure rules maybe little different back home
Thanks nice and clear
I only have a three pin socket on the wall behind the cooker when plug in cooker to socket oven was working for a while but now plug fuse is blowing. No cooker connection showing on the CU. What is the solution for this?
If I'm not mistaken the 3 pin socket outlet is only for gas cooker as its used for spart for gas...so it uses way less power and can be put on socket outlet....whilst electric cooker oven need 6 mil and be wired into appropriate cooker unit because it requires much more power and need a separate circuit other wise if put on ring will overload
Does anybody know...what the benefits are in having a hard-wired electric hob as opposed to a plug-in?
Most new cooker will not have a plug with them
Unicorn Smith g
It's down to power of the hob. 13A at 240V = 3120W power (P = V*I, ignoring power factor), so a low power hob may come with a 13A plug that can be plugged into a standard (UK) socket. Higher power hobs (e.g. my 8600W amazon special) comes with a hefty flex cable pre-wired to the hob, but which must be hard-wired into a 45A cooker connection unit (CCU) that is isolated using a 45A cooker switch. HTH
Tighter connections = less resistance = less heat = lower chance of melting.
That's why high wattage appliances are hardwired permanently.
Im attempting this tonight 🧐
that is 220v sir?
What do you do if the hob has 4 cables on it red brown yellow/green and blue
For UK single phase supply: yellow/green = Earth, blue = neutral, red & brown are 2 separate live cables: join together and wire into the live terminal of the cooker connection unit. I think that the separate lives may be connected separately when using multi-phase supplies: this is normally explained by a sticker on the hob / installation manual.
Whats with the Miami Vice soundtrack?
What make is the plate you are using
He took my roaster oven apart so I could clean it. The more I saw the more cleaning it needed. Now he can't put it back together. Can someone please tell me how to do it myself? Please...its a 16 qt electric Rival roaster oven. I don't want to throw it away.
What’s this a music video wtf
are you even a qualified electrician? i doubt it. this is not how you should wire a cooker/oven
In what way isn't it? Start with the diagram at the start and end (5:31) shows it.
We have a dedicated radial circuit with suitable size conductors.
It starts with a cable from the CU to the double pole isolator.
then a cable running from the double pole isolator to the terminal block.
Finally a cable running from the terminal block to the cooker.
All CPCs that were visible have been sleeved. (terminal block terminations for both cables)
The one thing that wasn't mentioned was the size of the MCB. However this isn't about wiring in the whole circuit, just the final terminations from the fixed wiring out onto the cable for the cooker.
Yes, safe isolation should have been mentioned, but in reality that is the only issue I have found.
@@cjmillsnun he neglects the fact that ppl looking up YT videos to wire an appliance like this are by definition,novices, and often miss the most basic of safety practices so he should always assume the YTer is an idiot and should incl step by step process incl safety advice and safe practices, eg safe disconnection at board. secondly as you say he omitted the fuse/breaker size for the load of the oven, can be 10-20kW in my experience for domestic appliances, so the protection will vary form oven to oven; thirdly , the way he secured the conductors was not best practice , in fact if an apprentice of mine did that i would fail him
@@giggergigger1 Good afternoon maybe you can help me been in the building game myself on and off ,retired now ! the question i am asking would be the same as if i was on site,simply new built in ovens with plugs Neff have told me i can take the plug off the oven i like not loosing my warranty, I am sure it may be ok to install the plug wire onto the 6mm hard wire outlet. that had the older oven was on I have had a latest type consumer unit fitted recently , for peice of mind this flat of mine is only 2 decades old in round figures.
Advices are allways wellcome black to black red to red green to green above that Ask thats me.thank you best regards bob lowe.
@giggergigger1 this is not a 10 or 20kw oven. He did everything 100% here.
Do you even know what a conductor is?
Cowboy
@@samsonacc8081 if you think that’s 100% good for you, copy him and see what happens
I didn't realise this was a music video. tt would be better if you explained what you were actually doing instead of playing loud music
F--k the music .
I've got to go and do a cooker job and they have no connection like this one in the video so I'm going to wire it straight to the cooker socket 🙄 I know it's a scruffy way but it's the only way of doing it unless the single plug socket behind the cooker like in this video is 6mil cable I'll remove that and buy a cooker terminal box and use that