Good video, Thank you. I will be utilizing this on the Ranger. Looking forward to the under carpet grommet. This charger is very cool. Lots of possibilities and use cases. keep on keepin on. take care and be well
You can make it 10x less expensive by charging your solar generator via solar charge port , just use voltage booster to up the voltage from car alternator from 13.8v to around 50v, and install a relay that disconnects it from solar generator when the car is not running. In my truck , i dont even use the solar generator, but using a simple lion 100a battery, the cost of the whole system is 300$, for 1280WH of energy storage and 800wattes of DC to DC charging
I can buy these EcoFlow 800w alternator chargers for $199. You whole system is $300. How is that 10x's cheaper?. Plus, this is plug and play and it was made for the system.
Very little concern considering the F-150 is equipped with a 200A alternator at a minimum. Higher trim levels are equipped with a 240A alternator. At a peak of 800W the draw from the EcoFlow charger is approximately 56A @ 14.4V leaving plenty of power for the operating loads and charging the starting battery.
The connection cable for the battery is 5m (or about 16 feet and 5 inches). Depending on the length of your truck and position of the battery, this may be able to reach the bed. Unfortunately, EcoFlow does not make a longer cable so you would need to extend the cable yourself if you need additional length. Which Make/Model truck are you planning to install it on?
That would depend on the gauge and ampacity of the cables running to the inverter. It would need to support the power of the inverter as well as the 800W being drawn by the EcoFlow Alternator Charger.
A pure sine wave inverter will introduce losses to the charge system. You're going from a DC source, converting to AC with the inverter to the D2Max which then has to convert back to DC to charge. With a 1000W inverter, you're going to be pulling close to 80A from the battery to get a 1000W output. 80A means a bigger power supply cable and increased stress on the alternator as opposed to the 800W alternator charger. It's 200W less, but more efficient and about a 20A lower draw on the vehicle charging system.
@@rackupgo so the ecoflow isn't converting to ac? Then I'm confused. Because I haven't seen many solar generators that have a DC input of 800w... And that's also a limiting factor in regards to real world use. Having to have the right box that can even accept 800w dc VS a standard inverter that can charge anything. Or if I'm totally wrong, please explain??
@@mobius012 No, it isn't converting it to AC and then back. Hobotech has a good video that goes over the specs and other important details. This video is a good installation video more so that a tech spec one.
Good eyes! That was the Garmin Powerswitch and it runs the auxiliary lighting. It's not the same as the battery monitoring app shown. The bluetooth battery monitoring app is the Ancel BM200.
The Delta 2 Max has a charge and discharge limit of 113F (45C). The Alternator Charger has a maximum operating temperature of 140F (60C) and storage temperature of 158F (70C). Considering the 120F is ambient air temperature and does not include potential solar heat gain and greenhouse effects in the vehicle, we would not advise leaving the Delta or the Alternator Charger in the vehicle year round as it will likely exceed their safe storage temperatures.
I was hoping to be able to keep it in the car all the time. I don’t want to have to put it on the battery and take it off the battery all the time. But it looks like that’s what I have to do here in 120° in Vegas summer.
The charger you can keep it in the car as it won't be on unless you turn it on. The Delta you definitely don't want too keep in the vehicle charging in those Temps
I bought one of those alternator chargers and a Pecron alternator charger. Pecron works on all power stations. My reason for buying and was dirt cheap at 149.00. I wouldn't use it for reverse charging and deplete the power station. Besides, who wants to sit around for 30 minutes to an hour for it to charge. Just carry a Lithium jump starter and be done with it.
I have 3 ecoflow power stations and was thinking of buying this instead of solar panels. But I have a question, since your F150 already has a working 120 outlet already in truck. Wouldn't that work just as well as the one in your house. Making this unnecessary if your vehicle has a 120 outlet.
@@wolfcola3401 The 120V outlet in my particular truck only puts out 400W. Other versions of the F-150 optioned with the ProPower Onboard may have a higher output and provide more power to charge the power station. So the ecoflow alternator charger provides double the power. It also provides the reverse charging feature to top up and maintain the vehicle starting battery.
With the EcoFlow 800W Alternator Charger, you can charge 8 times faster than with traditional vehicle auxiliary power outlets by using excess energy generated by your vehicle.
The trucks alternator is AC OUTPUT. The Ecoflow charger is simply taking that and converting to DC output to charge the ecoflow battery. The high amp output of a truck alternator allows the high wattage output of ecoflow. Anyone asking about the ford truck bed 120v outlet ….. that would be very slow and inefficient. AC from truck alternator to DC from truck battery to AC from truck inverter to DC by ecoflow pack charger rectifier. To many losses, slow and kinda ridiculous to stress so many components of the truck. The real curiosity in all this….how much is truck gas mileage being effected by Ecoflow 800 watt charger. You’re basically converting a solar generator into a gas generator.
The alternator on the truck provides DC output. AC is produced at the stator, which is then converted to DC voltage via diodes. The AC from the stator is not exactly accessible without disassembling the alternator. The terminals that you can connect to are providing a DC output. The EcoFlow alternator charger is basically a DC-DC converter and is taking the ~14-15V DC output of the alternator and boosting that to ~54V to charge the EcoFlow battery at its native voltage. The bed outlets or the dash outlets on a non ProPower Ford F-150 are limited to 400W, so the alternator charger can charge the EcoFlow batteries twice as fast as one of those outlets. It's also more efficient with the alternator charger since it is DC to DC versus going from DC to the truck's inverter, and then the EcoFlow battery having to convert the AC from the inverter back to DC to charge the battery. As for the curiosity on fuel economy, there has not been a noticeable decline. On a 300 mile round trip (mostly highway) while charging the battery, the truck averaged 19.2MPG. About what is expected from the 3.5L EcoBoost with 3.55 gearing and a +1.5" lift up front.
With the EcoFlow 800W Alternator Charger, you can charge 8 times faster than with traditional vehicle auxiliary power outlets by using excess energy generated by your vehicle.
Casey LaDell has a video about making his portable with some Harbor Freight jumper cables he modified. He has a towing company and wanted to be able to use it in any vehicle he has and not permanently mount it in any one vehicle. Which is the way I would do it as well. Trying to decide if this is a want or a needed item. they are on sale from ecoflow for $400
This battery is not automotive grade. Ecoflow cant be cold. If it gets cold in the winter or fall it will damage the battery permanently. Do not buy this product for this use case.
@@rackupgo If you leave it in a vehicle the temp swings will damage the battery. I have one. I had to RMA my eco flow because it was too cold while it was being charged. The battery has no cold temperature sensors. Look.. I know you have an affiliate link and that's fine, sell it! But don't be silly. This is a bad use case.
@@Dobbs6651 we’re actually a dealer, but the point remains, it’s a portable battery station by design. It can be easily, and should be, removed from the vehicle if conditions don’t align with the specs of the product. Thank you for your comments. We appreciate your support, and are happy to help with any questions. Cheers!
@@rackupgo Thanks for the response. Seems like you spent a lot of time on the video. It's very well-made. I'm not trying to discourage you from continuing to create more content related to Eco flow. I enjoy my EcoFlow. I use it for my home network as a backup power supply. The reason I feel the need to voice my opinion here is my unit was destroyed without warning due to cold conditions. Yes, this could be a great option for someone who owns an RV and would like to charge from the alternator. It's also neat that it has a reverse charge function. I am going to sub your channel. Can you make a video about cold charging?
Great, no nonsense review. Thank you!
@@kidkong637 glad you liked it, thank you!
💪🏽💪🏽🔥🔥 can’t wait to add this to my Ecoflow Delta 2!!!
Good video, Thank you. I will be utilizing this on the Ranger. Looking forward to the under carpet grommet. This charger is very cool. Lots of possibilities and use cases.
keep on keepin on. take care and be well
Right on!
You can make it 10x less expensive by charging your solar generator via solar charge port , just use voltage booster to up the voltage from car alternator from 13.8v to around 50v, and install a relay that disconnects it from solar generator when the car is not running. In my truck , i dont even use the solar generator, but using a simple lion 100a battery, the cost of the whole system is 300$, for 1280WH of energy storage and 800wattes of DC to DC charging
Can you link the items you’re describing and maybe even pics of the setup, curious about doing this too
@@timurkhan554 ua-cam.com/video/fPfHeB73KjI/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Casey250
I can buy these EcoFlow 800w alternator chargers for $199. You whole system is $300. How is that 10x's cheaper?. Plus, this is plug and play and it was made for the system.
Any concern on overloading F-150 alternator?
Very little concern considering the F-150 is equipped with a 200A alternator at a minimum. Higher trim levels are equipped with a 240A alternator. At a peak of 800W the draw from the EcoFlow charger is approximately 56A @ 14.4V leaving plenty of power for the operating loads and charging the starting battery.
I want to install it in truck bed, do they make the longer wire to truck battery?
The connection cable for the battery is 5m (or about 16 feet and 5 inches). Depending on the length of your truck and position of the battery, this may be able to reach the bed. Unfortunately, EcoFlow does not make a longer cable so you would need to extend the cable yourself if you need additional length. Which Make/Model truck are you planning to install it on?
@ hi, thanks for reply; will be installed on 23 F150 raptor
Seeing this is an F150 could the EcoFlow alternator be connected directly to the power inverter under the back seat?
That would depend on the gauge and ampacity of the cables running to the inverter. It would need to support the power of the inverter as well as the 800W being drawn by the EcoFlow Alternator Charger.
Other than the reverse charge. How is this better than an adding an 1000w pure sine wave inverter? And just plugging the ac cable in to charge ?
A pure sine wave inverter will introduce losses to the charge system. You're going from a DC source, converting to AC with the inverter to the D2Max which then has to convert back to DC to charge. With a 1000W inverter, you're going to be pulling close to 80A from the battery to get a 1000W output. 80A means a bigger power supply cable and increased stress on the alternator as opposed to the 800W alternator charger. It's 200W less, but more efficient and about a 20A lower draw on the vehicle charging system.
@@rackupgo so the ecoflow isn't converting to ac? Then I'm confused. Because I haven't seen many solar generators that have a DC input of 800w... And that's also a limiting factor in regards to real world use. Having to have the right box that can even accept 800w dc
VS a standard inverter that can charge anything.
Or if I'm totally wrong, please explain??
@@mobius012 No, it isn't converting it to AC and then back. Hobotech has a good video that goes over the specs and other important details. This video is a good installation video more so that a tech spec one.
Looked like a Garmin accessory under the hood. was that battery app also Garmin?
Good eyes! That was the Garmin Powerswitch and it runs the auxiliary lighting. It's not the same as the battery monitoring app shown. The bluetooth battery monitoring app is the Ancel BM200.
How much heat can it take? I live in Las Vegas, it gets 120 degrees in the summer. Can I leave the Delta and the Alt Charger in the car year round?
The Delta 2 Max has a charge and discharge limit of 113F (45C). The Alternator Charger has a maximum operating temperature of 140F (60C) and storage temperature of 158F (70C). Considering the 120F is ambient air temperature and does not include potential solar heat gain and greenhouse effects in the vehicle, we would not advise leaving the Delta or the Alternator Charger in the vehicle year round as it will likely exceed their safe storage temperatures.
Vegas local here. Planning on using it at Mt Charleston which does go about 85 degrees during summer.
I was hoping to be able to keep it in the car all the time. I don’t want to have to put it on the battery and take it off the battery all the time. But it looks like that’s what I have to do here in 120° in Vegas summer.
The charger you can keep it in the car as it won't be on unless you turn it on. The Delta you definitely don't want too keep in the vehicle charging in those Temps
I bought one of those alternator chargers and a Pecron alternator charger.
Pecron works on all power stations. My reason for buying and was dirt cheap at 149.00.
I wouldn't use it for reverse charging and deplete the power station.
Besides, who wants to sit around for 30 minutes to an hour for it to charge. Just carry a Lithium jump starter and be done with it.
Nice! Thank you for your comment!
Hi there, I’m done the firmware update and still got the red light? I’ve got 14v coming through the battery but no charging.
Can you just attach the positive line on the top? Is there reason to attach it on the box under?
show is it doesn't drain car battery while off, thx!
Glad we could help!
I have 3 ecoflow power stations and was thinking of buying this instead of solar panels. But I have a question, since your F150 already has a working 120 outlet already in truck. Wouldn't that work just as well as the one in your house. Making this unnecessary if your vehicle has a 120 outlet.
@@wolfcola3401 The 120V outlet in my particular truck only puts out 400W. Other versions of the F-150 optioned with the ProPower Onboard may have a higher output and provide more power to charge the power station. So the ecoflow alternator charger provides double the power. It also provides the reverse charging feature to top up and maintain the vehicle starting battery.
With the EcoFlow 800W Alternator Charger, you can charge 8 times faster than with traditional vehicle auxiliary power outlets by using excess energy generated by your vehicle.
This is just a regular run of the mill DC/DC charger we use in Australia yea... why are people amazed by this...
My battery doesn’t have posts so where should I attach the EcoFlow charger?
Which vehicle and battery are you trying to connect the charger to?
2019 GMC Savana the battery is a Duralast Platinum EFB Battery BCI Group Size 78 750 CCA 78-EFB
can you post the source of that other battery monitor you have ?
Sure thing! www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ8D71NY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The trucks alternator is AC OUTPUT. The Ecoflow charger is simply taking that and converting to DC output to charge the ecoflow battery. The high amp output of a truck alternator allows the high wattage output of ecoflow.
Anyone asking about the ford truck bed 120v outlet ….. that would be very slow and inefficient. AC from truck alternator to DC from truck battery to AC from truck inverter to DC by ecoflow pack charger rectifier. To many losses, slow and kinda ridiculous to stress so many components of the truck.
The real curiosity in all this….how much is truck gas mileage being effected by Ecoflow 800 watt charger. You’re basically converting a solar generator into a gas generator.
The alternator on the truck provides DC output. AC is produced at the stator, which is then converted to DC voltage via diodes. The AC from the stator is not exactly accessible without disassembling the alternator. The terminals that you can connect to are providing a DC output. The EcoFlow alternator charger is basically a DC-DC converter and is taking the ~14-15V DC output of the alternator and boosting that to ~54V to charge the EcoFlow battery at its native voltage.
The bed outlets or the dash outlets on a non ProPower Ford F-150 are limited to 400W, so the alternator charger can charge the EcoFlow batteries twice as fast as one of those outlets. It's also more efficient with the alternator charger since it is DC to DC versus going from DC to the truck's inverter, and then the EcoFlow battery having to convert the AC from the inverter back to DC to charge the battery.
As for the curiosity on fuel economy, there has not been a noticeable decline. On a 300 mile round trip (mostly highway) while charging the battery, the truck averaged 19.2MPG. About what is expected from the 3.5L EcoBoost with 3.55 gearing and a +1.5" lift up front.
what is the point of all of this please?
With the EcoFlow 800W Alternator Charger, you can charge 8 times faster than with traditional vehicle auxiliary power outlets by using excess energy generated by your vehicle.
How would this work with a hybrid vehicle? Can the Ecoflow battery charge the small hybrid battery? Or just 12v battery?
That device would almost be better not mounted and able to be 100% portable. Endless possibilities there.
It is portable just the cable from alternator remains. And yes you can use it as trickle charger for your RV it other trucks which sit a while
Casey LaDell has a video about making his portable with some Harbor Freight jumper cables he modified. He has a towing company and wanted to be able to use it in any vehicle he has and not permanently mount it in any one vehicle. Which is the way I would do it as well. Trying to decide if this is a want or a needed item. they are on sale from ecoflow for $400
Heads up, RackUp+Go beats any price, including direct pricing from EcoFlow
This battery is not automotive grade. Ecoflow cant be cold. If it gets cold in the winter or fall it will damage the battery permanently. Do not buy this product for this use case.
It’s a portable battery. Moving it around to fit the situation is kind of the whole point.
@@rackupgo If you leave it in a vehicle the temp swings will damage the battery. I have one. I had to RMA my eco flow because it was too cold while it was being charged. The battery has no cold temperature sensors. Look.. I know you have an affiliate link and that's fine, sell it! But don't be silly. This is a bad use case.
@@Dobbs6651 we’re actually a dealer, but the point remains, it’s a portable battery station by design. It can be easily, and should be, removed from the vehicle if conditions don’t align with the specs of the product. Thank you for your comments. We appreciate your support, and are happy to help with any questions. Cheers!
@@rackupgo Thanks for the response. Seems like you spent a lot of time on the video. It's very well-made. I'm not trying to discourage you from continuing to create more content related to Eco flow. I enjoy my EcoFlow. I use it for my home network as a backup power supply. The reason I feel the need to voice my opinion here is my unit was destroyed without warning due to cold conditions. Yes, this could be a great option for someone who owns an RV and would like to charge from the alternator. It's also neat that it has a reverse charge function. I am going to sub your channel. Can you make a video about cold charging?
This is just another DC to DC charger that also uses proprietary cables. No thanks I'll stick with Redarc or Renogy that I can wire to anything.
For direct connection to some of the EcoFlow portable power stations, yes!
Can you just attach the positive line on the top? Is there reason to attach it on the box under?
The positive line was installed on a stud on top of the battery lug. Are you referring to attaching the negative cable to the chassis ground?