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What brand of oil paint you should buy. And what is inside oil paint tube.
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- Choosing what brand of oil paint to buy can be very challenging and overwhelming. In this video, I explain the differences and help you to understand how to choose the best one for your budget.
There are three main categories/grades of oil paints and the most common brands.
Student Grade Oil Paint:
Winton Series by Winsor & Newton (England)
Studio Oil Colors by Lukas (Germany)
Daler-Rowney Georgian (Originally England)
... and many others. I would recommend avoiding the student grades.
Artist or Professional Grade Oil Paint:
Gambling Artist Series (USA)
Lukas 1862 Series (Germany)
St. Peterburg Master Class Series (Russia)
Winson & Newton Artist Series (England)
Williamsburg Handmade Oil (USA)
Rembrandt Extra Fine Artist Series (USA)
Richeson Artist Series (USA)
M. Graham Oil (USA)
... and many others (recommended pool of paints)
Luxury/Premium Grade Oil Paint:
Vasari Classic (USA -NY)
Blue Ridge Oil Colors (USA)
Old Halland (Netherlands)
Michael Harding Oil (England)
Holbein Extra-Fine Oil (Japan)
... and others but not many (recommend if it is in your budget)
Content of this video:
0:00 Intro
0:45 Brands
2:00 What is inside the tube
5:30 Cost of pigments
7:50 Three categories of paints
8:08 Student grade
10:43 Artist or professional grade
13:57 Luxury or premium grade
20:29 Conclusion
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"they can't call it ..... 'not-much-pigment-grade' "..... Vlad ..... you are so funny ...... you have really made me belly-laugh out loud .... thanks so much for the humor .... and, seriously thank you for all your research on paints, pigments & so much more... I watch your videos all the time now after having discovered you and your wonderful style and teaching dynamic ...... I loved your series on the Easton Plein Air Competition .... that was so wonderful to be able to "go along with you" on that journey - I wish you won an award for one of your paintings too .... please keep creating these wonderful videos - cheers
Really appreciate the thorough explanation and brand recommendations. Thank u
I try to buy the best oil paints I can afford. I primarily buy the primary colors, as well as white and black, and earth colors. Mixing my own colors saves money by not buying every color needed. I have added a few not primary colors that I use a lot. I bought a primary color pack of "Michael Harding" hand mixed paints, very buttery high in pigments and beautiful to work with, but expensive.
Thank you so much. My daughter wants to get into oils and I always try to make sure whatever medium she wants to try, she has good tools to work with. This helped me so much.
That is great! Let me know if I can help her
Thanks for the advice and tips !! Can’t wait to paint again afer long time !! 😌😅
Welcome back :)
Let me know if you need any help
Thank you so much for the advice!
Subscribed! Thanks for the video
I am a huge fan of Old Holland oil paints. The quality is superb and their pigments are dazzling. I find that their Sap Green Lake Extra and Ultramarine Violet, in particular, are beyond beautiful and far better quality than their comparable hues by other manufacturers.
My grandmother left me a bunch of Old Holland paints when she passed & I agree, they are wonderful paints.
They’re very expensive in the US compared with Europe, but I agree!
Thank you very much Vlad! Your information was very useful to me. I also still have Master Class paints, which I also sometimes use in addition to the ones here.
Thank you!
Hello.
You didn’t mention the Rublev brand. High quality. Professional grade. Xxxxx. I ordered oil paints from St. Petersburg, master class. Paints got squished in the thin plastic mailing bag.
Very informative!
In the description you say the Rembrandt oil paint is from the USA, but it’s in fact also made in The Netherlands.
So is Old Holland
fabulous help. thank you
I have done some amazing portraits in cheap paints (South African-made Dala acrylics, and before that in Winton oils). Maybe it was skill and years of experience that made it possible. Maybe I spent a lot of unnecessary time making things work with poor-quality paints. I now want to go back to oils and am going to try to get hold of Jacksons. Thank you for all your information!
I use most of them- including Daniel Smith (Made in Seattle and they offer a gemstone line I love!) and Williamsburg. Isolation layer-Windsor and Newton (a solid performer), all other passes high-grade oils.
In a tight budget, the smartest you can be is going with the best value student paint or artist grade, van gogh and winton are fine student grade paints, one cheaper artist grade paint brand (specially in the US) is M graham, very well pigment loaded paint with a superb buttery consistency due to their use of walnut oil, being a bit cheaper than winsor and gambling yet its intensity and pigment choice is a little superior from what i've tested, its a very underrated brand but a best value for sure.
I agree, Winton paint has a good tinting quality but might be quite expensive in the US. Well worth trying, I use it all the time when push for cash. If you don't have the money then there are alternatives that stand the test against artist quality.
There is actually a critical pigment ratio beyond which air cannot fully escape the gaps between the particles, because there is just not enough oil to fill them. This results in diffuse reflection within the paint, which makes the paint more opaque, duller and chalky. Is this limit ever exceeded with oil colors? Is more pigment really always better? Since you mentioned Old Holland... I've seen colorimetric data on them and their oil paints tend to have rather low chroma compared to basically all of the less expensive but still highly regarded brands tested.
By the way, you overlooked one central ingredient for the price: The market. Price setting is an optimization taks considering supply and demand as well as costs, of which pigment load is only part of. I'd expect pretty large fluctuations in pigment load and quality for the same pigment in the same price class (chemical composition, purity and particle size of the pigment all play a role for the properties of the resulting color). I mean that's what you see in any type of product, even though, of course you will not encounter top quality near the lowest price class or vice versa.
A tube can have a substantial and huge pigment content even though it is cheap. That usually happens when titanium or zinc white is added to make types of blues, greys, etc. Even expensive brands like Old Holland have such convenience-mixes. How does one tell the difference when PW4/PW6 is used, almost as a filler in itself?
Michael Harding and Blockx are my favorite luxury paints. Best consistency and pigment to oil ratio. Williamsburg are loaded with almost too much pigment and are usually too stiff to use without oil/medium.
I like these two as well (when I have the $). My favorite luxury paint is Mamieri Puro followed by Schminke Mussini. I keep hearing great things about Vasari, but never tried it. Old Holland & Williamsburg are too stiff for me. Styles are different.
Thanks for the video, very helpful! What are your thoughts on M Graham paints?
Very good paint
Also some pigments are rare and expensive to mine. Also hand grinding and small machine grinding is labor intensive. Vasari is off the charts beautiful and buttery.
Thanks!
I love your mentality and advice. I have the same philosophy towards oil paint. If you can't see the difference why pay the difference for the name of a brand? Never heard anyone talk about Saint Peterburg though. Thank you
Thank you Derrick. SP oil is great, but little bit oily... I would say some tubes. But over all great paint to use for professional work.
Companies charge the maximum amount that their potential buyers are willing to pay. Regardless of production cost. Expensive brands have the same pigment concentration as others. For each pigment there is an optimal ratio of pigment to oil. even though in cheaper brands part of this pigment is transparent, called fillers. These products can also appear in expensive brands to tame some pigments with more difficult behaviors. But they don't list them on the label.😅
Very basic and of course important information. For me the tip I definitely want to try is your recommandation of the Oil paint used by all Russian professional Oil Painters … the Sct Petersburg Oil paint … maybe you should put it in the luxury Group because of the luxurious quality loaded with pigment ( in spite of the lower Price - and secondat tip that I Will take with me is … only possible to buy from Jacksons art store ) 😊🙏
i thought some oil colors use different mediums/oil variations. can you mix them together from other brands without issues?
Good question! You can mix any brands of oil paints as long as it is oil base. Even, like Lukas brand, can be mixed with any oil base paint due to some oil additives. The only issue you have to be aware of when mixing different brands is “yellowing” issue due to a mix of the different oils. But in general on the molecular level the oil is mixable with any oil. Great question! Thank you!
@@openstudiod thx for the fast and insightfull reply.
Vasari are special. I'm kinda anxious to try BLUE RIDGE, but vasari has set the bar high. Have tried other brands like old Holland, but vasari separates itself from other brands. I have heard really good things about blue ridge, and am looking forward to buy some tubes, specially cobalt teal, quinacridone magenta, and a few other that vasari doesnt have
Vasari's Terra Rosa is well respected.
@@amysbees6686 indeed. Vasari in general is great
@@amysbees6686as I understand Vasari is the only true terra rosa, other brands like W&N and OH’s English red are synthetic iron oxide.
Haven’t tried it but I’d love to get my hands on some!
@@squirrel8161
gunzorro (Jim Harris) at wetcanvas forum tests the various oil paint brands, and determined Vasari has the best terra rosa.
I think it is important to make sure that a beginner does not get any material that prevents one from painting,
experience cannot be replaced by expensive high quality materials.
If someone has materials that this person likes to practice with and often does.
This person could buy enough of it to get along with the materials longer,
because it was not so expensive and the time to buy afterwards in which the money is saved is not so long and does not have the self-made pressure that expensive materials cause, because the painting has to be good.
Then this person has more experience than a person who buys expensive material and can practice less with it,
because when the material is used up earlier.
E.g. the canvases, this person needs longer to save more money for this material and to buy it later again, as the other person.
I think it is also important to keep an eye on your own finances when starting a new hobby.
I like to use the packaging from parcels for color sketches and swatches.
Furthermore, I prime the still with cheap gesso and white acrylic paint so that they don't suck in as much oil as just primed with the gesso.
Otherwise, I like to use sturdy wooden boards from the hardware store, broken cupboards and so on.
So what is garbage for others, I can use again.
I would actually make my gesso myself if the hardware stores near me also sell chalk and not just plaster.
I make white and black oil paint myself, that's because the white pigment is much cheaper
Then finished white paint and iron oxide black was too expensive for me to buy as a tube and I bought iron oxide black pigment to make oil paint from it,
unfortunately lamp and ivory black need very long to dry.
I prefer to make the colors myself where I can save the most and I want to enjoy my hobby in a relaxed way,
that's why I don't want to make my own paint so often.
I have a mix of different brands because I always bought something when it was on sale.
For the most part I have Daler Rowney Georgian which can be used well, some tubes contain too much pigment
and I have to make the color paint table with a little linseed oil.
I still have a few individual Van Gogh tubes because Georgian didn't have these pigments.
Otherwise, I have a box with Schmincke Norma oil paints that I buy on eBay as sets at different times very cheap,
Not necessarily my favorite colors, because there are some of them that consist of several pigments
and I prefer to buy only single pigment colors from one brand first and then maybe a few individual colors that consist of several pigments.
As a brush I like to use simple bristle brushes that have accumulated here, in school bristle brushes were required for art classes.
Own-brand brushes from artist shop chains, preferably the black hog from Jacksons art which are a little firmer than the normal ones
and the bristles are a little finer.
While that is sound advice, it does have it's downside. Lesser quality/student quality materials can also become frustrating to someone who really takes to a medium. I know from starting with Winton and Georgian and synthetic brushes. It was still a good experience, but when I bought artist grade paint with natural hair brushes it really opened my eyes!
If you paint impasto and in more expressive style - Student grade paints could work. Also in big canvases for covering big masses and not important passages, like the background. For more realistic and classical techniques they are indeed a painful exercise.
I know you are talking about what is available in the US. There are other brands that need mentioning which are available there. Windsor and Newton, Rowney and Maimuri (Italian paint). They are all good brands and their student paints are of a high standard.
Mamieri Classico is a fine student paint. Huge tubes, so it's good for big paintings with a lot of paint on board.
Is there a good US distributer for St. Peterburg Master Class oil paints or do I need to buy from Jackson's in the UK?
Unfortunately no.. but we are working on getting it here in US. Probably by the end of September artist William be able to purchase it from us.
Thank you. If possible, please let me know when it's available here.
I just ordered some Masterclass paint from Jackson's. Excited to give them a try!
@@stephensinksen7259 you will love it
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Yes I'd like to know also.
Hello i am a biginner painter and i paint whit pebeo oil and acrylic paints. They come in a set of 30 and they are 20 ml tubes both acrylic paint and oil paints. The oil paint tubes come in 200 ml tubes and cost between 10 and 17 euro,s for a 200 ml tube and the acrylic paint tubes are between 7,59 and 20,19 euro,s. Acrylic paints are expensiver than oil paints. Why i don,t know. I use allot of oil paint and i dind want to buy a mini tube of oil paint and be out of oil paint in like a night or a day so thats why i use pebeo. I should have bought the 200 ml big tubes of Pebeo oil paints instad of the 30 pack of 20 ml mini tubes but you learn eatch day 😊thank you for the review sir
Have you ever tried Windsor and Newton Artist Grade paints? Thanks 😀
Yes, I have a lot of tubes of WN. Very good brand but not consisted with the pigments.
I've read recently that WN was sold in 2010 (along with some other brands), and their quality has gone down.
How would you grade Hobby Lobby's Master's Touch brand?
Very very low grade. I wouldn't waste my money on that stuff. Get gamblin 1980 if you really have to get a student grade.
I paint in oils, as well as other mediums. Windsor and Newton Winton brand (Student quality) has a lot of pigment and can give a reasonable painting.
You can definitely tell the difference between artist grade and Winton. Winton will fade and discolor dramatically compared to an artist or premium grade oil paint. If you are just painting for yourself Winton is fine but I don't recommend using Winton for commission work.
I always look individually whether I use artist or student or even simple hobby paints.
For watercolor, I have noticed the quality differences between Cotman and Artist from Windsor and Newton.
I had seen on the pigment list that Artist and Cotman have mixed colors of two pigments for the earth colors
and I have read that Cotman should contain about half of the pigment as the artist and the artist are 3 times as expensive.
I had read this statement from several people on Wetcanvas and on UA-cam.
Furthermore, I bought three earth colors to test, and I don't like them because they are a bit weak and when I apply them more they shine very much.
After the experience, I preferred to buy the artist paint on a sale. I skipped the Cotman sale and just waited for artist.
Price performance was not so good with my tested Cotman paints.
The Winton oil paints are okay for the price, in contrast to the Cotman watercolor paints that I know so far.
I don't know the galleria acrylic paints, only that I bought 2 tubes of real cobalt blue from them in an art store because this special color
and tube size of 120ml has been sold out, and I have saved a little money.
when it comes to oil paints from Schmicke there are College, Akademi, Norma and Mussini. Mussini is the resin oil paint and this is not my problem, but College and Akademy.
Norma is the artist's oil paint and a little cheaper than other brands, but it also contains a little less pigment in order to be able to easier to spread
and is therefore cheaper than other brands.
The terms Collage and Akademi bother me a bit because collage is the English equivalent of a university and at a university there are art students,
so can beginner thinks that it is student quality. Schmincke's description says the quality of studies, i.e. a quality for studying.
So it sounds like student quality again. In terms of price, the 35ml tubes are similar to the other student qualities from other manufacturers.
The 200ml tubes are around 2-4 euros cheaper than other student quality oil paints.
At the latest when it comes to the price, that should seem a bit strange.
At the beginning I thought that Akademi where the paints for these art academies, that is, special schools only for art
that also have more practical lessons than in universities and that they need and require higher quality.
The description of Schmincke states that they are fine artist oil paints and that many pure single-pigment tones enable brilliant colors, the text reads like artist oil paints.
So as if it were the low artist quality and then comes the high, the finest artist quality in the form of Norma.
I believed the quality was somewhere between artist and student quality.
The academy 200ml Tubes are about 2-4 € more expensive than student quality from other manufacturers.
and similar in price to the highest quality student qualities that are like something in between student and artist quality, i.e. Van Gogh, Mameri Classico, Gamblin 1980.
We also have the same with the acrylic paints at Schmincke.
I started with the collage acrylic paints, and it was not pleasant to paint with them, despite the retarder and I thought after trying it a few times
that I could not paint with acrylic paints and gave up for years.
Just because the college acrylic paint were too bad for me to start, it was more of a hobby quality not student quality.
There are people who can paint in a relaxed manner with hobby-quality paints, I am not one of them when I have to work against the paint.
That's why I'm not so interested in buying the collage and academy oil paints when I have the feeling with the brand that I mostly pay for the brand name and get less quality for my money.
Strangely, this is not the case with the artist qualities of this brand, and it is similarly expensive as other European brands and also similar in quality,
only that the Norma oil paints are a slight outlier in terms of price and quality, probably because Schmicke still have the expensive resin oil paints.
So from Schmincke I only buy the oil paints and a few special watercolor paints that I cannot find with other manufacturers.
I don't buy the acrylic paint because it contains allergenic ingredients.
Schmincke is hardly well discounted in the art shops in which I buy, but mostly only 10-15%. it pays off for me to buy more other brands that are more discounted.
Unfortunately I am dependent on good offers because I don't have a lot of money to finance my hobby.
Schminke makes excellent pastels and what is considered the best watercolors.
i like winsor and newton artist oils
The Rembrandt paints are from a Dutch company called Royal Talens, not from the USA
If you study carefully you will find out that they move production of this brand to NJ
It is actually on their website, history page
@@openstudiod Who cares where it's produced? It's literally a Dutch company. Their main office is in Apeldoorn. Just because your H&M clothes were produced in Bangladesh doesn't mean H&M isn't Swedish.
@@notping9252 lol... I like your comparison. I will double check to make sure that brand was not sold out to US.
What about Michael Harding, especially compared to St. Petersburg Masterclass? Would it work well to mix them?
I do not see why not. Both brands are high pigmentation paints
@@openstudiod I ordered primaries from MH just to see if I like them, I thought about supplementing some of the more expensive MH colours with the Masterclass if I do like the pro paints. Now I`m using Talens Van Goghs Ferrario and Ladoga they are ok but perhaps its because I don`t know any better :D
@@dago00 ladoga compare to master class is a student grade to pro. MH paints are very good. I have several specific colors tubes and can’t say anything negative about it. I’m actually ordering primaries from MH to do a review
@@openstudiod will see how it goes, even though I don`t paint daily ;) i do feel like Im at a point where I can test some better paints. It is true that the better the tools the more enjoyment you have and the better the results
@@dago00 let me know if you need any help
You didn't mention that cheaper paints that are label as a Hue, i.e. Cobolt Blue Hue. This is an alternative colour made to appear as the more expensive genuine paint. This is usually student quality but can also be found as a Artist quality.
Rublev are my go to. No fillers, extenders, just pure pigment in linseed oil that is archival, because it is time tested. Natural Pigments is the company and the web site is a mine of information.
Yeah they cost like a kidney each
The tubes are 50ml and the earth pigments are quite reasonable.
@@simonegreco4620 Yes, that’s why each tube of Rublev is sold with a piece of paper with a text of gratitude from the manufacturer: “Thank you for overpaying us for the paint by 500% of its cost, so that we can live at the level of the wealthy middle class.”
Hi Vlad - I recently learned about "Charvin" oil paints (which are supposed to be another brand of high-end, high quality paints)... I was wondering if you had any opinions or thoughts on this brand of oil paint? -- Would you be willing to do a video reviewing these oil paints also?? -- Thanks again - Cheers
Yes, for sure. I was actually thinking on bringing Charvin tubes to try. Will do primary colors study :)
@@openstudiod Did you review the Charvin paint???
I am in the mood for oil painting but its 22:44 in the netherlands were i live
titanium white (titanium dioxide) has nothing to do with marble powder (calcium carbonate)
They sometimes add the marble powder to it to make it more thick.
Cheaper lines like Gamblin’s 1980 add marble powder. It’s not a bad additive as they go.
Is this a new channel?
Yes Steven, this is new channel I just started for oil painters. Working on a lot of videos in three categories: demos, tutorials, and product reviews related to art.
I liked what you had to say about pigmentation in oil paints and I completely agree. I received some older paints after my grandmother passed that were luxury paints & they are remarkable and now they are all I will buy unless I am buying to teach my 3 yr old grandson to paint. Even then I buy Artisan grade paints. I know your video on the subject is a couple years old but I hate the thought of buying the St. Petersburg brand of paint from Russia considering what Russia had done to Ukraine. I simply can not in good conscience send any money no matter how good the value to a Country where the citizens refuse to see what they are doing to their neighbors. I stand firmly as a Vetran Army Grunt shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine and support their request from America for every piece of arms they wish to defend their Country. Were it to me I would not have lagged so long in getting their wishes filled and making it known America would support saving as many Ukraining lives as possible. I hope you are well and your family is safe.
Are you familiar with Rosa Gallery? They are really affordable Ukrainian brand, I like it, but they lack genue cadmiums unfortunately.
No, never heard of it
And that's why I make my own paint. It's all the same pigment. Only the fillers & binders change. It's less expensive and easier to make my own paint than to purchase quality paints.
Masterclass' colours are a bit dodgy. Cadmiums are not actual cadmiums and there are persistent rumours of them using (always? occasionally? I don't know) very low quality unrefined oils. I use them because they are everywhere here in Kazakhstan but if you have other options use them sparingly - I still have hope for them to improve though, because the internet is making the brand quite popular outside the former Soviet area, which may force the company to use better-quality materials.
Why not to use Master Class by S. Petersburg… one of the best brand… I use it all the time. It is very hard to get it here in USA
@@openstudiod You can use anything you want, I only gave you some information coming from Russia.
Hey, i'm making my first order of paint and i am intentioned in spending some money. I cannoy afford michale Harding or old holland but i'm buying different brands like gamblin, Talens van gogh, lukas and I want to try some masterclass. Is in your opinion a good purchase for the price? I could also cut them off in order to buy the previous brand i wrote down. Thank you :)
@@simonegreco4620 Avoid Master Class's cadmiums. Basic earth colours, blue ultramarine, white and blacks, viridian green and quinacridones are good. I use that brand because where I live it's very cheap.
Are student grade those little oil tubes?
It has nothing to do with size. There are small tubes of Artist and premium oil paint brands. You just have to look at their info it will let you know if it's student, artist or premium grade.
your choice ??
What is your opinion on the Rembrandt brands of Artist grade? I love you videos and thank you for making them. Lastly, I so support the Ukrainian from the beginning! What Putin is doing is horrible and very much transparent to what phycological issues he is dealing with. Lastly, with all that is currently going on, can St. Petersburg brand be purchased with all teh sanctions on Russia; hope that is not a stupid question, if so, I apologize. :-)
Hi Dorothy, and thanks for the questions. Rembrandt brand is very good but not all the colors. Regarding StP brand I think you want be able to get it because of the sanctions. I’m switching between Vasari, Wilialmsburg, Blue Ridge and others
If you want, i can send you oil paint from Kazakhstan. I think that delivery will not cost much.
Real pros use pure pigment to paint and drip a few drops of extra virgin linseed oil made by monks in the Italian monasteries over the finished painting.
Agree 100%... but we need to be practical especially on plein air... time is passing by really quickly :)
USE STUDENT GRADES TO PRACTICE AND MAKE MISTAKES.
Any brand you want.
Hi there. If you need Master Class paints i can send you from KAzakhstan. I will not take any extra costs from that. Just friendly hepl for you. I know how hard sometimes to find the very needy stuff. Just write me what pigments you need, i ll send you prices and screenshots from internet shops to be clear. But i dont know how much delivery will be costs from Kazakhstan to you. But i can send u if u intersted in that
Thank you Olessya, do you have an instagram account for messaging?
It would be helpfull if you wrote a fem notes on the names and maybe but a link to where they Can be Bought - 🌷
Great review .Master class is nice paint but the only thing that holds me from buying it is that in that way I’ll be supporting the country which sends rockets to Ukraine …
You are not going to support the government who send the rockets to Ukraine, but people. Also if you live in USA you are supporting the war in Ukraine by paying taxes
I have my own opinion on paint - there is too much misinformation regarding paint being passed on - fact is standard paint with artist quality pigments, labor and machine time should be in the price range of $2 40ml - the reason why we have so many brands? If you have the machines it is very cheap in production - you can claim any quality and price you like - you can even claim it is handmade although the only thing that is done by hand is screwing on the lid and packaging. If you compare mid-range and high quality with one another ( standard pigments ) the difference is only very minimal. A direct comparison of paints is misleading, paints should only be compared in the process of painting in the same discipline - it is not the paint that makes the artist - it is the artist that makes the paint usable - Michael Harding
Then why his paint is expensive
@@evelinam.5835😅
Very repetitive…
If he is not sure.......how is trying to teach us?
Lol… I’m not teaching anyone… just sharing some info and experience
So according to this man, if you can’t afford Artist grade paint, don’t bother painting? Worst advice I’ve heard in a long time. Listen - buy what you can afford and get painting.
Sorry, but that was NOT the message. This is why student grade paints are called STUDENT GRADE… to use it for the studies. But if you stepping into more professional level you just can’t use student grade paint due to several issues.. and the first one is very simple - you can’t sell your artwork to collectors using student grade paints! It is simply not appropriate.
Too little and repetitive info thinly spread over too many words. Schticky. Wish you well.
I’m actually working on updated version of it
@@openstudiod Thanks - I respect your knowledge, significant talent and willingness to share and so look forward to your new version. Wish you well.
@dreadnaught3894, You ARE Disrespectful!!! IMO.
@@jand9770 hi Jan, could you please let me know in which way I’m disrespectful?
@@jand9770 maybe . . . but also . . . . FACTUAL! Tee Hee!