How Deadly Weather Brought Down This Plane (Delta Airlines Flight 191) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN
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Delta Airlines Flight 191, on final approach into Dallas Fort Worth Airport undershot the runway. The plane skidded onto a highway, striking one car with the left engine before crashing into an airport ground structure. The weather plays a large role in this accident, so just what did Delta 191 fly into on its approach?
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Can you do Metrojet flight 9268?
This flight was a cause of a microburst
may i ask if the pleasant accent is a west indies accent?
Wow. Seems like flight 191s from multiple airlines are ill fated, such as Delta Flight 191 and American Flight 191. On the positive side, it is possible to use Doppler LIDAR to detect particulates moving in air currents, therefore measuring the amount of turbulence. This tech isn't yet implemented, and was being researched by the Japanese in the late 2010s (JAXA) for clear air turbulence. Kinda hoping this future tech could detect microbursts as well.
I was living in DFW at the time of this crash and was actually looking towards KDFW at the moment of the crash. At hat moment, I was the front seat passenger in a car heading west on I-30 in the vicinity of Grande Prairie so was too far away to see the plane or the actual crash. But what I did see quite clearly was that the sky was entirely clear EXCEPT for this one very small but very dense, dark thunderstorm cloud right over the airport. Such weather is quite common in the southern US plains The whole region can be CAVOK but the "butterfly effect" can cause very intense, small-diameter storms to pop up at a moment's notice at random places. Such was the case here. As I was looking at this single, small, dark storm cloud in an otherwise clear sky, the AM radio in the car broke in to say there'd been a plane crash at KDFW.
Ironically, this accident has probably saved more lives than any other in history. This accident lead directly to the development and use of doppler radar at airports for early warning of cloudburst/downdraft situations. This, in turn, lead to doppler radar being used by weather bureau's, as early warning for other weather events, including tornado's. Anyone who has survived a tornado strike by taking shelter when they were warned by local TV/radio/however, indirectly owes their survival to DL191...
That's not ironic. That's bascially how aviation safety works.
Speaking as a former L-1011 pilot, I want to tell you this is one of the best summations of the accident available to the general public without getting into the extreme minutia of the case. I appreciate your attention to detail (though to be fair I must point out that you used an L-1011-500 variant in the video CGI model versus the actual aircraft: N726DA was a long-fuselage -1 variant without the Frisbee fairing). At any rate, while not all-inclusive, this is a very well done video.
As an aside, I have personally flown this windshear scenario in an L-1011 simulator, and can tell you it’s a real eye opener.
RIP DL191.
Did you die in that simulator crash?
Well said. From one former Tristar pilot to another: You are exactly correct - if flown in a simulator which accurately models the event, it is truly violent and frightening. Unfortunately not all sims do it justice, which is a grave disservice to crews training in those devices.
It has to be terrifying!
It is survivable by rotating the airplane to 20ﾟ and Keeping Speed just above stickshaker. Obviously the power is to the firewall and the configuration is left the same until Airplane leaves the microburst. I did the scenario many times myself... They had none of this information but taught us quite a lot.
I survived this plane crash only because I changed seats right before the plane took off and moved to the bulkhead over the left wing. I will never forget the dread I felt when I looked out the window instinctively when the engines suddenly started revving and saw the engine on fire and sparks and smoke billowing off the wing. Until that moment, I thought we were just going through really bad turbulence. When the plane hit the water tower, it exploded on impact, and the plane broke apart beneath my feet. I got injured so badly that I had to spend an entire year in the hospital. I had just turned 16. I remain infinitely grateful to be alive. The fight was hard won.
The grunt that the first officer makes as they start colliding with ground objects is really horrifying. It's just crazy that seconds before, he was talking and flying a plane, and then you're hearing his final moments and his primal reaction to it.
I can't imagine how terrifying it would have been to just be driving down the highway and then an airliner suddenly rolls across the road taking a car with it.
It decapitated the man in the car as it sheered the top off. We see planes land every day over that same piece of highway.
I don’t drive or walk anywhere near the landing area of airports
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@Yehoshua Mavi He deserves more subs considering the amount of effort he puts in his videos.
He started uploading videos since.... Then he got millions of views and thousands of subs
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@Yehoshua Mavi he is underrated just shut up man
My dad was actually on the highway near the landing strip when this happened.
The mechanic who passed away on the ground in his car "Was just gone all of a sudden. Like he was there and then there was nothing left." - My Dad
Frightening stuff.
Wow. Scary stuff.
I’m very sorry for your loss.
So sorry for your loss
Mind you in the video it was on their birthday. That makes even worse.
@@RBMapleLeaf well for his family atleast, as the guy who was killed won't know or care.
The celica’s driver was the saddest death for me.
yeaah.. you gotta be hella unlucky to die in a planeaccident, whilst in his car, on his bday :(
Utterly horrible. That poor, poor man. It makes me want to cry, honestly.
nobody’s death is any more or less sad than anyone else’s.
@@misseselise3864 I agree, just sayin that his death was the most tragic imo.
Yeah, that one is sad AF, it was his birthday, he was driving, and there was absolutely no warning this would happen. He had no way of avoiding this
This accident was a landmark in the sense that so many improvement emanated from it that continue to this day. The fact that it was a L-1011, and its DFDR recorded so many more flight parameters than the usual FDR of the day provided a rich dataset that helped people like Dr. Ted Fujita and NCAR develop onboard windshear equipment as well as better flight simulator program. In the years since 1985, there's only been one microburst-related in the USA (USAir @ CLT in 1996 or so).
I disagree that the L-1011 had a “troubled past”. None of the accidents mentioned were related to the engineering of the aircraft.
Agreed as a former L-1011 pilot. The DC-10 reputational problems were largely design or maintenance issues; the L-1011 accidents were largely pilot error accidents. In no way way did the L-1011 have a bad reputation with anyone to include pilots (who loved it) or regulators. It’s by far the best aircraft I’ve ever flown (and I’ve flown nine types of airliners).
@@HEDGE1011 Indeed. A troubled past, what a joke of a statement. The TriStar was the safest airliner of its time, way ahead of every single other one in technology. Better than that joke DC-10, an absolute shame to plane history. I love this channel's videos but this one always makes me cringe a bit because every accident that the Ten-Eleven had was either a pilot error or a maintenance error. Never had a troubled past or fame of bad design and funny enough, any time the aircraft had a mechanical error (most of those due to incorrect maintenance) everyone landed safely due to the advanced technological prowess of Lockheed Martin. Eastern Airlines can prove how good and reliable the L1011 was. Two engine failures in-flight, both on Eastern planes due to incorrect maintenance from the company. Those planes landed safely due to not losing manuebravility or hydraulics, literally a proof of how reliable and sturdy the TriStar was. Now you try to land a DC-10 with an engine failure, it'll probably break down midflight and kill everyone.
Yes L1011 is the safest widebody trijet plane,as former pilot of Malaysia Airlines DC 10 i agree that DC 10 was troubled aircraft,the control was heavy,i would take occasion when i was ask to fly plane and airline know about this also force all pilot that suppose to charge to fly the plane especially when was told to fly to Kai Tak airport,the airport that serve city of Hong Kong and scare me most is infamous runway 13 approach or heart attack approach because it would give you heartache since the plane have heavy control and it dangerous reputation you might think that you are flying a coffin to the grave however flying DC 10 was a wonderful experience since the variant of DC 10 that i fly is series 30 there's a little accident invovling egineering and it serve with Malaysia Airlines with no accident at all
@@roskasan574
Turkish air is the only DC-10 crash because of a design problem.
@@HEDGE1011 I've spoken with quite a few old-timers who say the exact same thing. The Tri-Star was a great plane.
In my opinion, this accident was caused by the hand of mother nature smacking the aircraft at the time when it was most vulnerable. They were just in the wrong place at the wrong time and it was an unusual if not freak occurrence that brought the aircraft down. The captain knew exactly what was happening and the flight crew did exactly what they needed to do, they just didn't have the altitude and speed to recover and the technology of the time wasn't able to give them enough warning. From what I understand, there was some criticism about the captains decision to land despite the small storm cell near the runway, but having to deal with such conditions is hardly uncommon or unusual in the summer moths in the southeastern US. 99.9999^99% of the time landing in such conditions in a wide body aircraft would not end like this landing ended.
that. And also 2 other planes just landed ahead of them without any occurence.
Yours is a bit of Monday morning quarterbacking. We know NOW because of what they didn't know then. No one knew what a microburst was then. Planes used to fly through storms all the time and they still do. But now we are more capable of evaluating the strength and intensity of the storm before we stick our noses in one. Additionally, airlines have created "thou shall not" rules for their pilots to help them make their decisions. If pilots didn't fly through small, light intensity storms (typical in the SE for much of the year) the industry would grind to a halt every afternoon.
BS. As soon as they say lightening "right ahead of us" they should have aborted landing and flown around.
@@lbowsk - Exactly. I was beginning my aviation career at the time this occurred. Yes, it was known that thunderstorms contained a variety of hazards, but the understanding of microbursts, and in particular the rapidity with which they could develop and dissipate as well as their intensity was in its infancy.
It’s very easy to armchair quarterback the crew in retrospect, particularly for those with no real-world airline experience. Those who actually understand the complexities and the limited knowledge set the crew had (again, due to lack of knowledge by meteorological scientists at that stage) understand the lack of data the crew had prior to encountering the shear.
Damn. They did the right thing without prior experience. They were SO close!
Yeah, it's rare for a non-mechanical reason crash to occur in spite of the pilots knowing what was going on and doing exactly what they should be doing
Listening to the voice recorder made me feel sick to my stomach as we're pretty much listening to their final moments alive. Utterly horrifying.
@@Mochrie99
Yep, that was terrible.
The 1st oh shit, was the left wing hitting the ground.
The 2nd time was the tanks coming into view at a ground speed of about 200.
Awful..
I have a feeling the captain had heard about microbursts before this flight, so he may have known what to do.
Rip everyone, especially poor cilica driver on his 28th birthday :C
Microbursts are no joke! My neighborhood in Austin was hit by one in 2003. Almost every yard had a tree pushed over, roots and all, as if a giant had just come by and shoved them to the ground. My house had 2 massive trees fall on the roof. One landed on my chimney, cracking it to the floor. A huge branch punched through the roof and into the house. No one was hurt. Weather is serious business.
So lucky. I’m from the uk, I’d love to live in Texas mate
@@BenPlayford-jx1oy I really enjoyed visiting the UK! I love Texas, but it's not for everyone. Kind of an acquired taste. Definitely has something for everyone!
Seems like 1985 might be the single deadliest year for Airline disasters. Nearly a thousand lives lost between JAL 123 and Air India 182 alone.
It's pretty close. I think the only year for more fatalities in aviation was 1972.
August 1985 is the deadliest month for airline disasters.
1985 was the deadliest year for airplanes accidents in US History. There were so many new rules that the FAA put into place from all the accidents that year. My dad was in an accident in AL because an ultralight was flying with no radio around the airport and the ultralight should not have been flying period because of it not being inspected and was put together the night before.. Because of these accident the FAA mandated that Ultralights had to have radios in their aircraft and cannot be in uncontrolled airports without them.
It was a heartbreaking year and so many lives lost across the country. However, many lives were saved because of the NTSB recommendations, laws, rules, regulations and training that was implemented because of those accidents
Best explanation and illustration of a downburst I've seen, especially for non-pilots.
They actually struggled with rain and strong winds during the rescue effort, so much that a gust of wind made the tail-section piece (with survivors still strapped in) roll over a bit more than 90° into an upright position.
I was a witness to this as a little girl. I was in the hospital where they took the burn victims and the playroom was above the helipad. I saw things that day nobody should see. A couple days later I was taken to the crash site to process what I had seen. It was horrific. Recently I paid a visit to Captain Connors at his resting place.
"I can't say for sure if this kid has PTSD or not, can I take her over to the crash site just so I can put a tick on this form?"
@@krashd I don’t know if I can call it PTSD but it’s unforgettable. I was eight years old.
Did going to the crash site help or hurt you processing this? Going to visit Captain Connors tells me you are better and a caring person.
What a terrible thing for a child to witness. I'm sure it left a mark. It did on me and I just saw the site from a plane when we landed. Tragic.
I was on the plane. But I never got PTSD or even thought much about the crash afterwards. I simply walked away, sparked up a cigarette and collected my convertible from the airport long haul.
Two days after this crash I flew in and out of DFW. The charred tail section was still on the ground and I could see the huge tank the plane impacted. What a sad sight.
Right at the 2nd crash I guess when they hit the water tanks you could hear one of the pilots say something. Sounded more like an utter of terror when he realized they were most definitely going to crash and it was going to hurt. Damnit man.
I was pulling into my driveway after work when word came over the radio about this horrific tragedy. I remember us all praying daily for that poor little girl who sadly died 3 days later.
Many good people left "prayer grams" for the survivors at the hospital. I was very grateful and still have them saved in a box.
In 1981 the plane that I was on flew into a thunderstorm between Dallas-Fort Worth and San Antonio. It was the most terrifying thing that has happened to me. The plane dropped and rose and dropped like a roller coaster, the lightning appeared to be flashing straight through the plane and everything was shaking. As terrifying as it was, there was no point in being afraid, because the situation is beyond your control. Either you’re going to drop from the sky and die or live and have a story to tell. We lived, but just the mention of Texas, summer, planes and thunderstorms gives me chills to this day, and I can only think there but for the Grace of God, and feel great sorrow that this plane, these pilots and these passengers weren’t so fortunate.
I did basic training in San Antonio in the summer. I distinctly remember those Texas thunderstorms. the enormous cloud heights and the big walls of blue black storm coming across the landscape. On a Ft Hood helicopter one time we had to take a rapid course correction to get out of one that just came up out of nowhere. I can only imagine how scary your experience was but I admire your outlook. Stay safe.
It’s strange to think how God has grace for some and for for others …
@trinityp8575 Yes, it is. I've struggled with profound survivor's guilt ever since that fateful day.
I remember they made a pretty good made-for-tv movie about this disaster.
'Fire and Rain'
@@bettagems9209 Thank u
It was this disaster that more or less ended the debate over the existence of the downburst/microburst, and as a result planes and pilots became better equipped to learn how to avoid such phomenon and how to maximize survival chances if they did encounter one.
Bless the poor man in his car what a cruel blow 😢 celebrating his 28th birthday just proves you never know what's around the corner may the man and the passengers who died that day RIP 🙏
"...All we are is dust in the Wind..."
I had been employed at a Telecommunications company located on walnut hill business complex. Close to Mary Kay Cosmetics headquarters. This was very close to the airport. My schedule was to return from Fort Lauderdale on that flight. I resigned from the company earlier in the week and did not go to Florida. It was a life saving decision for me.
I Thank God for keeping me safe.
Sometimes even what we consider bad situations can be Lifesavers. Thank God I resigned.
my grandpa is a retired delta airline pilot and was an investigator on this crash because at the time he had the most hours on the 3 engine planes like the DC-10 and the L-1011
I do remember seeing the news of this particular crash from when I was a kid. (I was 9 at the time). And I remember them talking about wind shear and how it caused the crash, and wondering what exactly it was. Such a tragic accident. Another excellent video.
Honestly,I love your content they are just so amazing and very compact but still very educational.
Have you ever thought about doing ship disasters?
Good suggestion!
I figured since he's doing well with these, why not expand?!
@@ljmelvin98 I would be interested in that for sure 😯 I just found this channel but they did a great job on what I've seen so far 👏👏
There are no ships in the sky. You silly
@@jansenallensigaton6328
Airships? A real lead zepplin.
I love watching these while going to sleep you've got a soothing voice 💯
Thank you!
I flew into DFW on a Delta L1011 about 10 days after this crash. The crash scene was visible as we landed. The wreckage had been removed but the scars on the landscape were still visible. It was so easy to imagine what those people experienced in tneir final moments. It was a reminder of how fleeting life can be.
We are incredibly safe in airplanes. But when an accident happens it is always spectacular and tragic. And I have felt a personal connection to this accident now for almost 38 years. I was only 22 at the time. But every time I go through DFW, I think about Delta 191 and the Fickle Finger of Fate. And I always will.
My parents (who hadn’t yet met at this time) both worked for Delta at the time of this accident, and had a connection to the plane. My dad was one of the Atlanta mechanics who painted this plane a few months before it crashed. My mom was a Dallas-Ft Worth based flight attendant who was at the airport when the crash happened. She said she and her colleagues all ran to the windows when it happened because they could hear/see it when it happened. She knew the flight attendant at the back of the plane who died. (She says the Mayday/Air Disasters portrayal of the flight attendant wasn’t very accurate.)
I was sitting across from her in the bulkhead. The plane broke apart beneath our feet when it exploded upon impact with the steel water tower.
@@andriagoodkin7640 I am Emma's dad and spent a lot of time on that airplane.
I painted the upper left quarter of the fuselage to the tail and the right side of the tail.
The Mayday documentary portrays the official account of the crash --- an account that doesn't match up entirely with my experience. Shortly before we crashed, I was alarmed by the violent shaking and turbulence and the terrified look on the flight attendant directly facing me. When I turned to look out the window to see what was happening, I saw flames and black smoke coming off the left wing. I always thought it had been struck by lightening, or an engine had blown when they revved it up in the fight to increase the airspeed and recover altitude. I don't know. What I do know is the plane was on fire in the air --- BEFORE we touched ground and, tragically, hit that poor man on the highway.
Thank you for sharing your experience. So many caring people from the Dallas-Fort Worth region reached out to my family and me when I was there in the hospital.
My mom remembers this crash really well. Her roommate was graduating, and her parents wanted to surprise her, so they were on the flight. She didn't even know until officials called her to let her know they hadn't survived.
The reason so many people died is because it skidded and turned, hitting the water tank sideways.
It should also be noted, that this was really the first time that a microburst had effected a plane so severely, they weren't all that understood very well at the time. The pilots had no way of knowing a microburst would happen.
Oh man I remember this one so well. The very next day my Mom and I were flying into DFW aboard a Delta L1011 from LGA. This accident made her incredibly nervous about flying. And flying in and seeing the burnt out wreckage as you landed was freaky. It was the first time I had seen an actual plane crash site with my own eyes. I didn't expect it to be so easily recognizable as an L1011, while being so completely destroyed at the same time. The Airport still had that smell from the burning fuel and aircraft lingering in the air. Even though the fires were out the previous day. I did grow to really love the L1011 years later. Delta used to run them on a Friday Night red eye from Atlanta to LGA. It was such a nice flight. I think I took one of the last flights before they retired them. The MD-80's they replaced them with just weren't the same.
Nice to know someone else like the L1011 and thought less of the MD-80's. To me there was a big difference.
@@angelachouinard4581 The L-1011’s were like big old Cadillacs. Even the cheap seats were comfortable and had room. The only word to describe the Mad Dogs was “Cramped”. And doing that Carrier Landing at LaGuardia in the MD-80 was painful.
Most airline pilots these days will fly this exact same scenario in the SIM. It's survivable, but ONLY if you do the recovery just about perfectly. Aviators learned a lot about surviving microbursts from this accident and a few notable others - the PanAm 727 leaving New Orleans and crashing in Kenner, LA. The Eastern b727...USAir in Charlotte, etc. We're better trained now because of what we learned from them. The number one rule is - do not fly - into large convective cells during takeoffs and landings. Delay. Avoid. Use your head so you don't have to be Buck Rogers in the actual event. This was a tragic event. It's worth noting that a Lear Jet immediately ahead of them went through the storm and safely landed. Super Cells have very short lifespans and a difference of just a minute or two can make a huge difference. I personally have witnessed two micro busts while on the ground and they are incredibly powerful.
- Agreed.
A slight correction for accuracy for readers with less understanding of the phenomena than I’m confident you have (no doubt a inadvertent slip of terminology):
Microbursts have a very short life span.
Super-cell type storms have a long lifespan due to the tilted nature of their updrafts - which permits them to sustain themselves for extended periods of time due to the downdraft not choking off the updraft which fuels the storm.
Great video as always! I am not sure if this one can be blamed on pilot error, it seems they did all they could at the time.
i fear that *whoop* *whoop* pull up! voice, just like JAL-123
That was way before my time but that’s my neighborhood. By coincidence I was listening to this video 10 minutes ago while driving on 114 past that very spot. I’ve seen lots of ac flying low overhead there but haven’t crashed into one yet.
I absolutely love your videos! Keep it up man, your channel has been growing so much! Also could you cover United airlines flight 232? My mom’s friends were in that crash and survived so I think it’s very interesting.
I rode past DFW a short time after this happened. You could see a huge dent in the water tank, where the plane impacted.
Excellent video as always. There’s a ton of sea disasters I’d love you to do a breakdown one day as well, keep up the great work!
One of your videos was in my recommended when I was watching a Mayday episode and I'm very glad for it, awesome content!
These videos are great. I think you're very underrated and I hope to see your channel boom soon. Keep up the great work.
So glad I found your channel recently. A rare gem, such quality content👌
Absolutely love this channel. Thank you for another great upload x
A terrible tragedy but a significant lesson for all future flights. Well done on the video, as always.
Great vid man!!! I’ve always wanted you to do a video about the tri-star
It certainly wont be the last.
I've been binging on all of this channel's videos since I found it like a few days ago. My special interest in aviation is officially revived :"))
I really love your videos and have done for quite a while now I just wanted to let you know that you do such a fantastic job 🙂
We had a microburst in July of 2012, and I promise it didn’t feel micro as trees were being uprooted all around us. It just pushed them over like they were nothing.
Where
@@kirilmihaylov1934 , it was NE Washington State and southern British Columbia. I live near the border.
@@yogosapphire may be it was something else
@@kirilmihaylov1934the following was taken from nrcs.usda.gov
“On July 20, 2012, Ferry County and the Colville Indian Reservation were hit with an unusually severe wind storm. Two storm cells collided on the south end of the reservation in the community of Keller. Micro-bursts up to 100 miles per hour ran up the San Poil Valley into Canada. This produced divergent wind shears that touched down sporadically causing pockets of intense damage.”
It happened so fast that many people thought it was everything from a hurricane to tornadoes, but it was definitely an microburst.
But the L-1011 Eastern and Saudi incidents had absolutely nothing to do with the type of aircraft. They were both entirely pilot error. With the Eastern flight all three of the pilots were so focussed on a burned out landing gear indicator light bulb that they failed to monitor altitude and flew the plane into the ground. In the Saudi incident the pilots were so focussed on going through the checklist that they failed to depressurize the cabin so flight attendants couldn't open the doors and evacuate the plane. They were so poorly trained and arrogant that they ignored the screams of passengers and FA's pounding on the cockpit door for help.
The DC-10 crashes were design flaws and maintenance faults. The crash at Chicago O'Hare was due to metal fatigue in the engine pylon. Even after losing one engine at takeoff the plane should have been able to maintain positive climb with the remaining two engines. But it didn't. There were also multiple crashes resulting from a faulty design flaw with the cargo door. As with the crash at Sioux City, Iowa, the triple redundancy backup of the hydraulic system was the cause. The three hydraulic lines ran side by side. In the event of a structural failure, such as the cabin floor collapsing, all three lines were severed which pretty much negated the whole redundancy design.
Now, here with the DFW crash the type of plane was also not a factor. Any type of aircraft that flew through such a violent and sudden microburst would have most likely crashed.
Loss of all hydraulic fluid was the reason
AA flt 191 couldnt keep positive climb rate. When the engine/pylon let loose, it also let several feet of leading edge from the left wing damaged from collision with the wing. That severed hydraulic lines located behind the.leading edge. If you look at the photograph taken by a tourist when the plane was flying at a 90° angle, you'll see a trail of shit coming from the wing. That was the left side hydraulic fuel quickly leaving the plane. They tried to right the plane the correct way. But to do this you have to haboth wings creating lift at that low of speed so that additional thrust could be applied to gain altitude. The slats retreated when the hydraulic fluid was gone. Since they lost the slats and partial
flaps, the left wing couldn't generate lift at the slow speed they were flying.
They didnt have a chance at all.
@@patrickmollohan3082 beautiful response was going to say something like this
@@patrickmollohan3082 Just gonna throw on some additional details. The engine that detached was also responsible for multiple aircraft systems such as the CVR, flap/slat disagreement alert warnings, and the stall alert systems.
Since the engine powering the captain’s stick shaker (the only one that would activate on this version of the plane) was lying on the runway, when combined with the lowered stall speed, the crew genuinely had no way of knowing that by following normal operating procedures for an engine failure on TO they were actually dooming their plane. It was a real cascade of issues that the crew had no hope of resolving in the time and training they had.
@@holyfordus
Thank you very much for those details.
It just boggles the mind to think of everything that has to happen in an exact sequence, to make the plane work as it was meant to. Again, thank you for the awesome details and explanations!!
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AA191 was poor maintenance and a minor design flaw
Almost skipped this video because I thought it was the other 191 crash that I saw a lot of coverage about. Then I realized it was a Delta flight!
It's pretty crazy that two separate air disasters shared the exact same flight number.
It’s amazing that anybody survived. So tragic for those who did not.
Among those that were killed included IBM's Don Estridge & his wife…
@@brianwong7285oh well, never mind
Good work. Thank you for the videos
These videos just keep getting better and better! Keep em coming!
There was NOTHING moderate about the weather that evening. The rain was so heavy, it was like being consumed in heavy, heavy fog. Visibility was non-existent! I entered onto Hwy 114 north (at the water towers) just a couple minutes after the plane hit the highway.
Thanks for such a great video. Very good review of events. Have a most enjoyable week off.
It’s crazy to think how in 20 days three plane crashes happened
It did though
And in 1 year 4 crashes
@@tdestroyer1882 unfortunately crashes do happen . Most regular than most people think
Another hit!
(Literally)
Thanks for more great content! 🌟
This channel is superb. Awesome work on this video =] enjoy your week off!
I love this channel, the quality is better than some channels with over a million subs.
your a great commentator on plane accidents. Great work!
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The L10-11 that crashed in the Everglades was caused by the pilots being distracted by a blown light that indicates the landing gear down and locked . Jet was on auto pilot but captain bumped the yoke while stuffing around with the indicating lamp . The jet just kept descending until it hit the swamp . Absolutely no fault of the L1011 design in anyway .
It’s Ironic that both Delta and American Airlines both had 2 Similar types of Aircraft both of which had the 191 Operating Number and both Crashed! RIP to the Victims! Great Work BTW!
That's not ironic. That is a coincidence. Irony is something different.
your videos are the best,thank you
Amazing videos always keep up the good work
Thanks!
The L-1011 had a low life cycle, a lot of people never knew this. It was rated for only about half the pressure cycles than other planes like the DC-10. Its one of the reasons they vanished so quickly and you dont see them used in other roles like firefighting.
A friend of mine lost someone on this flight. So sad.
I haven't finished watching all the videos on this channel yet, but this is the first one that happened in my neck of the woods. This happened before I was born (and I don't know personally know anyone affected), but I do drive through that exact area of 114 to get to work every day. Kinda chilling to think about...
I really shouldn’t be watching these videos cus I’m flying to Florida tomorrow but i can’t stop lmao. Also your channel’s super educational & fascinating & your narration is excellent!
@Buhs safety for most things is written in blood unfortunately.
Have a safe flight 🙏
Think of it this way: you have approx a 1:3000 chance to die in a car accident in your life. And you have a approx a 1:11000000 chance to die in a aviation accident. I hope this gives you some reassurance as i had those fears aswell, but came to the conclusion that flying is the safest way of transport available. We hear about the plane crashes on the news and online because they are so rare.
Thank you for visiting my home state. Your dollars spent here are much appreciated.
@@nfsrival1499 True, but people do win the lottery. My aunt and two young at the time cousins narrowly missed being on SkyWest Flight 5569. The small Metroliner aircraft collided with a 737 on the runway at the LAX airport and everybody on it was killed. According to my aunt, she had a bad feeling about the flight and decided to take a bus to San Diego instead. I thought she was either exaggerating or full of shit with that story because crashes are so rare, but then I found out it was a featured crash on an episode of air crash investigation and it confirmed everything she said. Talk about creepy...
I flew on a DC 10 in 1975. I was five years old. It scares me that it's now considered a death trap.
This was one of the plane crashes mentioned in rain man when he didn’t want to fly.
If there is a department within Air Traffic Control that does historical research they need to reach out to you on doing the presentations. Just amazing.
Your channel is awesome.
Great video. Enjoy your week off.
Hi: thank you for the video
Great video.
Two months after this, I got married and we were on our way back to Atlanta on a Delta L-1011 after our honeymoon but had to stop in DFW. Of course the weather was bad in Dallas and as we slowly emerged under the clouds we saw the ground and I tell you the plane was totally silent. I’m sure everyone was thinking about DL191 as we came in to land
Love the content!
Thanks so much for watching
We flew out of DFW on a Delta L1011 2 days after the crash. It was a strange feeling
You said that the TriStar had a troublesome history, yes but not on account of its design. Most of those accidents were highly unfortunate especially Delta FL191. I travelled quite a few times on the L10-11 when my dad worked for Saudia in the 1980s. I think it was one of the coolest passenger jets in history. It looked cool, and it sounded cool.
My mother-in-law was a firefighter/paramedic responding to that crash. She said it was the worst thing she'd ever seen.
Amazing you even put in the kim trails behind the scenes.
Your videos are excellent. I would liken them to a professionally produced documentary.A friend of mine from middle school and his sister were on this flight that day in August. They were sweet kids and tragically, they opted to get on Flight 191 instead of an earlier flight that day because they didn’t want to make their grandparents whom they were visiting in Florida have to get up early to take them to the airport. Five years ago at my 30th high school reunion I was talking with another good friend of mine from childhood who is now a first officer for a major U.S. airline. He said that much of the training pilots now undergo around handling microbursts was developed from this tragedy.
This was my hometown crash, thank you for doing a video on it! I was 9 years old at the time, and totally obsessed with all the TV and newspaper coverage. I will say one thing though, the TriStar wasn't the first airliner with autoland, it was your own British Trident. :)
keep the up the good work! :)
Poor William! On his birthday as well? That is really crappy luck! His poor family!
I don't know if it's sad or impressive that I knew exactly what crash this was and what happened after listening for less than 10 seconds (didn't see the name until after).
Love this channel! Thanks mate
My first boss' brother was killed on this flight.
Was this 191 .. I thought 191 was the infamous engine break off DC 10 incident in Chicago
American Airlines flight 191
Delta Airlines flight 191
They have both The Same flight Number
great job
We call it DFW in short also this plane would've had more victims cause the director and producer of the 1988 horror Cult Classic Scarecrows were supposed to be on the flight but slept in and caught another flight
Hearing stories about people missing flights that crashed is insane. I forget the number, but it was the TWA flight that crashed over the ocean on Long Island. Some girl and her friend were en route to the airport, but missed their flight cause she left her luggage at home. Had she remembered both her and her friend would've been dead. Can't imagine the feeling.
@@topspot4834 also the one lady who decided not to get back on the plane at Tenerife
@@topspot4834 of course one the most famous one is Seth MacFarlane missing his flight on 9/11 after being drinking heavily the night before
@@dschroeder4380 I bet a voice in her head told her dont get back on
Motown's 'The FourTops' were originally scheduled to be aboard Pan Am Flight 103 back on December 21st, 1988.
Happy Birthday, Bill!
On this plane were Don Estridge, an American computer engineer who led development of the original IBM Personal Computer (PC), and thus is known as the "father of the PC revolution". His decisions dramatically changed the computer industry, resulting in a vast increase in sales of personal computers, thus creating an entire industry of hardware manufacturers of IBM PCs. Steve Jobs offered Estridge a multimillion-dollar job as president of Apple Computer but he declined. Estridge and wife Mary Ann were killed in the crash of Delta Air Lines Flight 191 at Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport on August 2, 1985. He was 48 years old. The Estridges were survived by their four daughters. At the time of his death, IBM ESD, which included the development and manufacturing of the IBM PC, PC DOS, PC LAN and TopView, had nearly 10,000 employees and had sold over a million PCs.
I feel like that year was mostly bad for Boeing.
Also I work at Dallas Fort Worth airport, you can just call that area DFW. The Dallas airport is a whole other one close by (some point Texans decided to have two domestic airports and a big international airport between two cities).
What's the name of the song that you used at 4:09?
Update: The sone name is I Will Remember - Gavin Luke
The VP of the company I worked for at the time lost his wife on that flight, Harry Wilson, I worked in Ft. Lauderdale at the time.