Coso Range F4 Aircraft Crash Sites
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On June 1972 two F4 Phantoms collied over Coso Range near Owens dry lake.
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I was a Asst Crew Chief on the Phantom, during the early 80’s, at old George AFB, 39th TFS, than the 21st AMU, still have the hats, my assigned Aircraft tail # was 66-6333, built when I was 2 years old, someone gave me a picture of it, which I still have. Wow, nice work man, that must be fascinating to find old wrecks in the middle of nowhere, new Sub here, very interesting!!
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Interesting video. I did similar crash hunting as a youngster in the Scottish mountains with a list of crash sites from RAF Lossiemouth. Found a Dehaviland Mosquito. The wood was long gone but we did find one of the RR Merlin engines before the weather forced us to return to the Inn for beers in front of a warm fire. More latterly in Papua when we visited a DC3 crash site high up in the jungle, a very tough high altitude jungle trek. This was the epic WWII Shangri La aircraft of great fame. A later visit to the site by a friend discovered a college ring which he traced the owner of and returned to their family in the US some 70 years after the crash.
Me too. I waded out to the flying boat wrecks in broome Australia to see a Dornier and PBY Catalina, both almost complete but obviously very corroded from being in the sea for decades. Also in Dartmoor UK a Lancaster site - loads of molten metal and small parts. Finding a 'Mozzie' must've been very exciting!
I found this video and your comment by accident. I had read lost in Shangrila and a friend from Our local Lions Club had been Commissioned by the Queen of England to spelunk caves in New Guinea. Before watching a show of His Exploits that He accomplished with other spelunkers and a troop of native porters and guides familiar with the native method of scaffolding cliff sides He insisted we all share a drink from a genuine native gourd. As we watched the presentation We all noticed that the Native’s went completely naked except for what We just drank from covering their Coileach. I hopeI got that Scots Gaelic translation right. Thought You might get a laugh out of it. I grew up at the base of Whites Hill in Fairfax Ca. The site of a B-17 crash on its approach to Hamilton Field. My Grandfather and One of My Uncles guided the Army to the site. See B-17 crash Whites Hill Marin County. A High School Friend Wrote a Story about it . We are in the credits. Distant ancient relatives who had been defeated by the Romans at the Sombre River in Belgium were later used as mercenaries along the Scottish Border and influential in the evolution of the English Language. I like Old Blind Dogs and Allistair Begg too.
Thanks for taking us along with you ! I appreciate all of the effort it takes and expense involved 😊
Really enjoyed your video 👍🏻
My dad took me to an F-104 crash site in the Mojave Desert back in the day. He worked on Edwards Air Force Base. The pilot got out ok and the jet plane was still smoking sticking in the desert sand nose first.
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I really enjoyed the documentary! I remember when we used to drive on base (Mayport) to pick up my father at work, and when my mom worked for the USO, there was always this F4 Phanton sitting at the end of the runway that ran parallel to the road getting in. That's back when my Dad served on the Saratoga. I even got to witness the F4 doing touch n go's on the deck of CV60 on a tiger cruise back in the day. It was awesome. I love that I was the 1000th liker of this one! Congrats and keep up the amazing work. As a videographer and Photographer, I really love the angles and it overall was a nice production.
On June 26th 1972, two USN McDonnell Douglas F-4Js (#158364 & #158379) Phantom II from VF-154 "Black Knightsh collided over the Coso Range while on training flight.
All four crew members managed to eject, but #158379fs radar intercept officer LTJG C. Jack Winstead was killed.
You reminded me of when I was stationed @ Seymour/Jonson AFB NC. I was with the 68BW working on B-52G & KC-135s we were a tenet unit there. The host unit & is still there is the 4FW & @ that time was flying the F-4E. The howl you describe I remember as they flew over getting ready to land. My first Doberman use to howl back @ them as if she was calling a wolf pack. Coming to the end of a long career now, working F-16s. But I still miss Mighty SAC & the professionalism/Pride required in it!
Music sounds like a very short loop. Good video.
The Part at 9.30 is the nitrogen receiver, a high pressure bottle of nitrogen to cool the missiles seeker eye. the launcher is for sidewinder missile. Thanks for the great videos!
I was the check crew leader with VF-154 when this happened.
This crash site was at the China Lake NAS Range, Trona, Ca. near Death Valley, Ca. Two F4J Phantoms collided with performing simulated ACM ( Aerial Combat Maneuvers) Three Navy Pilots ejected safely, one was killed. This is technically "Off Limits" and is Restricted area. This guy was lucky he wasn't caught trespassing .
There is no way for the Gov to enforce the off limits area here. No posted signs, etc, etc, etc.. So no crimes were committed.
@@CJR505 actually it is a crime!
It happened in June 1972, it's amazing how well they with-stand the elements!
The elements are kind to metals out there .. that’s why they have the plane graveyard located there so that they may be pulled back into service if needed.
The same wreck lying in a jungle in SE Asia wouldn’t look half as pristine
Great Video, Very Informative. I Served on The Carrier Independence in Early 80s
. We had a couple F4s doing Launch n Recovery. They were the loudest Jets we ever had! The F14s were loud but I'm willing to bet the F4s were a bit louder. Thanks, Be Safe out There.
I’m surprised you found all that wreckage, you would think that the AF would have reclaimed every single piece of the Phantom, how you people find these wrecks in the middle of nowhere is just amazing, better than ...never mind! Cool
Thanks for the informative video, good work.
Great video! I remember visiting a crash site with my dad as a kid in the mojave desert. I wish I remembered which plane it was. Really enjoyed this!
Thanks for taking me on the visit. As an old F-4 driver, I always have to have a look at some piece of history. Ross
Ross Au who drives an F-4. Don’t you fly an F-4?
I fly a renault clio😁
I was a ship driver. How we talk.
The no slat J model. Loved flying the Phantom
This is an awesome video. Your knowledge and interesting stories of the aircraft made a great compliment to the images themselves!
Good and interesting video. The music is, however, a distraction. Just an opinion. Nice to see that you are armed. No telling what a guy might un across out there.
good work sir.
Im here in Arizona,back in like 2010 or so I seen a Phantom that I do believe it was painted with a drone. It had orange & I also believe it had white.
Back in the day I built a RC ( radio control) F4 J ,painted it in Blues Angels paint scheme as #4. This was back in mid 90s
That is some rough country. One mis step could be his last. Also it might be the reason he has stopped making videos. Great video
A stabilator (in contrast to a horizontal stabilizer with a hinged tail surface) is absolutely necessary for supersonic aircraft. The supersonic shock wave tends to park on the hinge. This deprives the pilot of all pitch control just when the CG shifts because of that same shock wave. A few WWII fighters crashed because of this phenomena as well as some early jet and rocket powered aircraft until they figured this out.
It is totally amazing how good they are at resisting the elements... except for the one in shanksville pennsylvania, it dissolved pretty well.
Thanks for such a fantastic report of this aircraft I just love hearing to tell bout the parts of them well what is left of them thanks so much for the trouble you go to get to the crash site
I joined that squadron (VF-154) about 3 months after that crash.
Great footage! thxs for sharing!
what a awesome video you have
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These were new aircraft. We got them when we returned form the 1970-71 deployment to Viet Nam. I believe they were the last "J" models made for the Navy, but don't quote me on that.
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Nice video.
A tweakers dream, all that scrap.Been to the AV8B site near China Lake and was detained by AF near F22 site in 2009. Good video
I got a laugh
Hola Fernando..
great video..
was thinking of maybe trying to locate this area and doing the hike you did..are you available for some information..are you actually bringing your Blazer across on the Navy weapons base?
Thanks.. very interesting.
can I get location of crash site would definitely love to hike up there and take a look I love looking at military Wrecks
This aircraft was used in Vietnam nam in 1969 and 1970 aboard the USS ranger I was in v f 154 as a ame mech. Fred carlson
3:59 I bring along a pair of snow chains. Real chain link kind. They work great in sand or mud. Getting stuck far away from hard top is not fun.
greattttt videossss
I once visited a crash site about 3 minutes after the crash happened. It was not something I'd like to see again. No one want to know what an airplane crash does to the human body, especially if those human bodies are small.
F-4 Phantom's have been my favorites since I was a kid in the 60's.
I thought you said you were in Southern California but that white stuff on the ground looks like snow to me. Your not dressed for below freezing temperature so I'm not so sure.
Nice !!
Great video, please give us the coordinates and remember: your polite voice is being drowned out by the redundant music.
Cheers.
VF-154 Black Knights stationed out of N.A.S. Lemoore Ca.
Good stuff but no need to kill snakes way out there , just walk around it.
looks like a good place to go chukar hunting
Does anyone know Fernando or know why he quit posting?
Looks like the F-4's were from VF-154, the Black Knights. I would guess these Phamtoms saw combat during Vietnam, and BTW VF-154 didn't become VFA-154 till they traded in their F-14's for F/A-18F's
reminds me of my desert outings. thanks
great hobby
NO reason to carry snake shot @7:10 ...leave them alone...no reason to kill them, poisonous or not. Learn the couple of poisonous types in your area for ID purposes and the rest you don't have to worry about anyway. Interesting crash site though.
invasive species lol
Please stop using music. It’s distracting. Not every video needs a soundtrack.
It's his channel, he can if he wants to.
What happened to the engines?
There's another video showing where they landed..
When did this crash happen?
BRASIL OK.
About a Week ago
I have scraped so many people or whatever is left of them of the highway that for some reason or another wasn't wearing their SEAT BELTS ❕ Please use them 💀
fernando hasent made a video in years
No snakes ! 😌
The amazing thing is... that junk is STILL U.S. Gov. Property. You take any of that stuff and its considered theft and punishable by Law.
I'm amazed they just LEAVE THE TRASH THERE!
But then again, this is the SAME GOVERNMENT that classified Area 51 even HIGHER in the early 1990s when ex-Lockheed contractors SUED because the base managers burned toxic material in open pits and DIDN'T let those contractors wear any biohazard/protective gear!!!!
Some of these planes and drone projects have used toxic materials in their construction. Asbestos was a common material until the 1970s. They had radioactive components in the engines for the D-21 drone I believe that had to be disposed of before those drones were sent for museum exhibition. NASA 2 or 3 of those drones they ultimately didn't use for test flights and they couldn't scrap those engines in the normal way!
Amazing taxes paid by us and is still owned by them!!!
Government and there arrogance dont care about them anymore they have lost me and there credibility with there actions bottom line we all see the government failing
Of all US military branches, only the US Navy claims to retain ownership of crash debris after they are done cleaning up all that they're willing to clean up. These are Navy planes, so technically they claim to retain ownership. But on the other hand, the property owner (often Bureau of Land Management, US Forest Service, or other government entities) try forcing the military to come back and clean up some more. I don't think there has ever been a good court test case where someone took stuff long after the cleanup, but I suspect the result might be that the wreckage was abandoned, and subject to the rules/ownership of the land owner rather than the military.
But if you're going to mess with a wreck, Navy is the wrong one to mess with, unless you like paying lawyers. Also, never remove ANYTHING from a national park, national monument, national historic site, etc. And never remove ANYTHING over 100 years old from anywhere, 50 years on certain types of property, at which point antiquities preservation laws kick in. It is debatable whether it is 100 years since manufactured, or 100 years since crashed, but I do interpret it to mean the clock starts ticking when it rolled off the assembly line, not when it crashed (if a plane) or was left there as trash by a hiker.. I wouldn't take even a beer bottle cap if there was a chance it was from 100 years ago. And I'd be super careful to check the rules of where I found something, if 50 years. I think there have been cases with coins, where they went by the year on the coin, rather than the year it was left there.