FLsun V400 Belt Tension
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Hello Folks:
I hope you are all doing well !!!
Many of you have asked how I insure that I have the correct belt tension on my FLsun V400. And more importantly, how I make sure that are all the same tension…
I am not a belt specialist or any other kind of specialist for that matter. Hahaha
Well, this is what I have come up with and it works very, very well for me, and should work for you as well.
And, as usual, I give a BIG shout-out to my little girl who helps me with everything !!!
Here is the link to the files I mention in this video.
drive.google.c...
you might not be a scientist , but you explain things way better then one , with your little gadget we can at least make sure that all the belts are at the same tightness , thank you for sharing experience ! 👍
Absolutely !!!
Thank you for this 😁 my v400 is now set up better than it was out of the box 😂
Awesome !!!
Dennis, just know we all appreciate all the work you put into these videos. The community recognizes and appreciates your efforts!
Since you've already done both E-Step calibration and belt tension for the V400 -- Do you think your next project video could be breaking down and cleaning the gears inside the effector? Your video showing how you cleaned the extruder on the SR was so well shot and informative, I'd love to have such a resource for the V400 too.
OK, I can do that !!!
But first I think I will do the V400 PID tuning...
that would be great! :) thx 4 your videos! Dennis
Wow! Thank you so much. This video and gauge are so helpful. Was trying to get my belts right, but had no idea where to start.
Dennis,
we simply love you worldwide :)
He is Mr Worldwide 😎
As always, informative and direct, thanks for your continued support and advise. Much appreciated 🙂
Realising my new V400 had wildly different tensions your approach looks neat and a good alternative to the tuning fork approach - thanks
Thanks for posting this and your humility of the engineering. Although your logic is reasonable the math is All Wrong. If the belts are the same on both printers but the length is different then the tension of the V400 should be the Same . Your not measuring frequency with that gadget, your measuring tension directly. Thats why its called a tensiometer. That tensiometer design and calibration is just for the belts on the QR. frequency is an indirect derivative of the tension , belt mass and length. If the V400 has same belt as QR just set the tension the same. I dont have both so I can’t determine this. The V400 is longer so it will have a lower frequency at the same tension as the QR. if you use a guitar tuner you tune to the V400 frequency that is the RATIO of the lengths ( not the difference). Cheers
Thank you very much for the explaination !!!
Thank you for the videos on the V400.
Have seen so many reviews and only a few concern tuning.
Thanks for the file. Will be printing this on my mopdified Neptune 4.
The V400 arrives tomorrow.
Seems there is a firmware update which I have to kook into as well as this accelerator gizmo.
Cheers.
You will LOVE this printer !!!
Really cool little tool! At the very least, it helped me get all my belts to the same tension. Only variable I see is the filament brand used, might skew results to use different filaments, but idk. Good work. Thank you
I gather you mean .12mm quality in the printer setup and not 1.2mm
For a beginner in the World of 3D Printing they may not notice that mistake. Perhaps you may want to correct that. Just a thought. I do wish to thank you for putting this video up ; very handy information.
All Set....
Thank you
Thank you very much !!!
hello, I have been using the guide for 4 months now, but I found it causes the belts to stretch.. so i dialed down the tension by 1 whole mark on the gauge...
still getting good print results with it dialed down...
Brilliant! Thank you very much.
Great video, thanks for sharing! I will have to print that for my new V400 :)
I like the gauge I just printed 3 because i noticed after the 2nd belt the needle for the gauge didn't return to flat, they seem to be 1 use tools to me but they print so fast printing 3 isn't an issue
Thanks for sharing your ideas, Dennis! As Bobwan Morgan said the tension of the V400 should be the same as of the SR. Could you share your SR-tensiometer so that I can use this for my V400? Best regards and keep up your good work and videos 🙂
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!!!! so helpful!!
Using a v400 to print this the 3mf is of limited/little use with SR set as the printer since there are rather a lot of settings that are different between the 2 and there is fair chance that hardware differences play a part in these so straight up transferring all the settings is unlikely to give a print that performs the same as the one you used.
That said, printing at the settings you put in the doc will make a tool that will work for getting the same tension on all 3 belts and that is likely to be by far the most important factor involved.
Amazing thank you!
огромное спасибо / thanks very much for this video
You posted this in a reply, but... (see walls)
Quality: 1.2
Walls: 3
That was line count...
@@dennisgignac5103 is it 1.2 or .12?
thanks man very usefull
Thank you
The link of stl doesn't work for me.
drive.google.com/file/d/1y547WdkeRUPpbGTLW8imFjqvRQUUHK52/view?usp=sharing
@@dennisgignac5103 This link worked. Thanks!
hello, thank you for your work, what are the printing parameters of your STL file and what material should we use to print the part?
I used eSun PLA+ and set the layer height to .16mm, 3 wall, 20% infill
hi, sorry but I don't understand how to switch from the v400 to the sr or qqs, because the cleat values are not written. Could you help me understand how to do it. because I have a sr and qqs. Thank you
Hi Dennis, Appreciate the videos and thank you as well. I didn't see the information for the printer settings for the file on the gauge. Forgive me if I missed them, but please direct me to where the information is located.
I printed that gauge at .16 layer height and 20% infill. I used eSun PLA plus...
I liked your idea of the tuning gauge as I went to get it but your link does not work anymore. I gave you thumbs up anyway. If you know where I can get something similar to this then I would love to use this method as When I got my V400 two days ago the belts were super loose as now there is a little deflection but at least I can not bend them somewhat to the other side of the back of the other-side of the belt.
Sorry about that link.
Here is the link:
drive.google.com/file/d/14GVGvWq80DfUpKCYH5ZWXYYB2dYxJtIR/view?usp=sharing
Thank you, thank you, thank you@@dennisgignac5103
Merci :)
you recently sent me a replacement pad, and I'm making sure my belts are tensioned as I am still getting terrible prints and bed leveling. I downloaded your device from your google site but you do not show your parameters for printing. Could you share them as stated in the video? Thank you.
.12 layer height, 3 walls, 30% infill, using Esun PLA+
Hello, Great video!! Congratulations on all the content you make. Regarding the STL, the link is no longer available. How can I do to achieve it? Greetings and thank you!!
Thank you for the kind words... Here is the link:
drive.google.com/file/d/14GVGvWq80DfUpKCYH5ZWXYYB2dYxJtIR/view?usp=sharing
I don't know whether you ever did - but did you ever change the tension yourself? Did you fancy making a video on what you learnt you seem quite methodical and you also seem to know when your printers are working well and when they are not - I can only seem to tell when it becomes disastrous...
Yes, I have adjusted my V400 belts. Just the way I show in the video. Nothing fancy. Just make sure they are very snug, NOT overtighten, And make sure they are all the same with that gauge...
@@dennisgignac5103 Hey Dennis, I meant more the physical action of tightening / loosening them, which screws to turn, how to ensure that you are getting balanced tension, do you tension one belt a bit, then move to another, tension that one and move around the belts to ensure that you don't have a single belt with too much tension...any other tips, tricks, issues to avoid that you have found while tensioning your belts.
Yo le hice a mano nomás y TA bien
Que ironía que ahora tengo problemas con las correas, están re duras de la nada
There is always something going on when we are 3d printing... hahaha
thanks man!
Hello, for the Super Racer, you say it need 57mhz. on this tool, where is 57 ? Thank you .
I have the same printer and in general the prints come out near perfect, however, I can't print large objects with travel speeds above 300MM/sec. If I do the print head speeds up enough to cause it to be knocked off or slip by about 1/4" horizontally. I think the belt is slipping but I'm not sure. I received my printer in late January and have printed about 100 medium to small prints. My profile is the one that came with the printer less the reduced print speeds. I have them set to a max of 250 with typical slower first layer speeds. The printer is new enough that I've not seen any discussions of similar problems. Any thoughts? I will print out the belt tensioner and see what I get.
Hello Dave:
300 is a very good speed that I use all the time. Contact me through FB Messenger and I will send you the Cura profile I use...
Dennis G. Gignac
@@dennisgignac5103 Hi Dennis, thank you for your time. I too am new to 3D and bought the V400.
Have had some good success but now struggle with some prints. Since I have used about 2 spools it might be time for a belt tension. (I did download the pano - nice touch).
I don't use FB or messenger. How do I get your Cura profile? I use Cura 3
I am interested in your techniques.
good work, easily explained.
Hola. El archivo no está disponible. Saludos
I've been enjoying your videos and have been using them to set up my new V400. My question is what do you do if your belts need to be adjusted? How do you actually adjust the tension as opposed to just measure it?
should it be tensioned perfectly in the center? between 3 and 4?
Yes, somewhere close to the center...
The important thing is to do all the legs in the same spot...
hi Dennis can you please post the file again the link is
empty. thanks
What Tension/ Hz do you recommend for the Q5?
Hello, nicely explained.
Thank you for that!
Extra question: can you please show your settings like layerheight, material, infill, walls, etc? I'm a Prusaslicer user and have no clue how to use Cura and importing profiles.
Quality: 1.2
Walls: 3
Infill: 40
Pattern: Grid
Temp: 210 and 60
Speed: 80 print speed and 40 walls
No support
Raft: Optional
Hello and congratulations for the explanation, only one thing is not clear to me, I have a flsun v400 and I downloaded the project you posted but when I import it into cura it tells me that a file with the settings for the super racer... it's just the name of the file and can I print it with the v400? Thank you
Dennis, is the belt tensioner good for the V400 and the Super Racer?
Yes indeed...
@@dennisgignac5103 Thank you very much for the answer and your videos.
hi sorry if I bother you. I have both the sister racer and the v400, as for the super racer, how long should the straps be? what do you use to find the hertz of the belts? and on which belt do you insert the piece printed in stl? the one that travels free or the one where you rotate it on the pin? Thanks and sorry for too many questions
Do you have one of these lil tools for the SR too?
I've been trying to get my belt tension right so I thought I would loosen them up and try again and was very surprised with the results, I had one gauge on each belt. Even with the belts quite loose to where you could easily make them touch the side of the channels they still read almost perfectly in the middle i used the file by Dennis. i kinda lost i would love it if someone would try what i did and see how accurate those gauges really are
The belts need to be very snug, NOT over tight. And most important, they should all be the same tension. Try the 60Hz method woith your phone to get them close...
The link you provide and mention at 5:04 takes me to an empty Google drive. How does one obtain the item you offered? Also, could you do a video on how to flash the newest version of the config files please?
Sorry, here is the link:
drive.google.com/file/d/14GVGvWq80DfUpKCYH5ZWXYYB2dYxJtIR/view?usp=sharing
Why cant I have you as a neighbor?! That would be great!!
Very BIG Smile You will have to come to Rhode Island !!!
The link to the files is dead
Sorry, here you go...
drive.google.com/file/d/14GVGvWq80DfUpKCYH5ZWXYYB2dYxJtIR/view?usp=sharing
Dennis, thanks for the explanation on this, as I am new to 3d printing and just bought a v400 soI will try the belt tensioning.
My main stumbling blocks are getting stuff to stick to the bed, as it seems that the nozzle hits the infill often and knocks it off. Tried resetting first layer etc.. Z hop.. Different temperatures. Any suggestions?
I managed to get the Spider Stress test to work, but took a lot of failures but gave up on the Clockspring torture toaster... Have you tried these?
for Quality at 1.2, are you saying layer height 1.2mm?
Hahaha, I did explain that many months ago...
Should be .12mm
Can we use it also for sr?
It is slightly different. But at least you can see that all the belts have the same tension...
quality 1.2? can you do that with a .4 nozzle?
I'm wondering if he meant .12
Quality 1.2 wtf
Sorry, should be .12 !!!
You sound like you could be from wisconsin or the u.p.
Hahaha, Rhode Island !!!
Did you print it in PETG or PLA?
It was eSun PLA plus
thank you so much!! what's the printing direction? how do you lay it on the bed?
I did not use a special direction.
@@cangigdthanks