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Jayson Tatum Gets Very Honest About Why The 2019 Celtics Didn't Work
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- Опубліковано 17 лют 2022
- Jayson Tatum opens up about why The 2018 Boston Celtics featuring Kyrie Irving, Gordon Hayward, Al Horford and current Celtics like Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart just didn't work.
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A podcast strictly about basketball made me realize how toxic ESPN is. I forgot I can be entertained without the drama. Makes me realize I still love the game. Good Job JJ !
Couldn’t have said it any better. If I wanna watch drama I would turn on e news. JJ is such a good interviewer and I think a big reason for that is, 1) it’s not fabricated or over produced 2)All the guests have the utmost respect for him and share stories they normally wouldn’t
Can anyone on the internet complement something without unnecessarily bashing another? No
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Very well said . . . real talk.
i don't get why media keeps saying only LeBron and the Lakers or the cowboys get ratings which is why they only have topics surrounding them when fans complain about how repetitive they are when these types of podcasts thrive so well without hardly ever mentioning those topics. My bet would be because mainstream media can never land these types of players for these types of interviews because these types of players don't want to deal with the nonsense the mainstream media and their agendas create
man didnt even say ''beat cleveland'' said lebron himself lol
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Cos without lebron Cleveland was trash
Cause 2018 Cavs could be effectively described as "LeBron and his scrubs". Hardest carry job to the finals of all time, only rivaled by 2007 Cavs lol. But 2018 was like 3 straight difficult matchups.
@@josephhanicak7922 it was hard in the weak east to get to the finals 😂😂😂 bronsexuals be saying anything
I love that self awareness statement he made where after the Heat ECF playoffs he thought he's got 15 years left. Then its year 5 and it felt faster than he thought. Not many young guys have this self reflection on themselves and the ability to improve their game on a yearly basis. As of the Hornets being fun, their announcer is part of that equation.
He hasn’t improved from last year to this year though
@@ryanvaughan3794 yes he has there’s more to the game of basketball than scoring Tatum has improved in rebounding playmaking defense and getting more to the free throw which is everything Celtics have been begging for Tatum to improve on
@@ryanvaughan3794 lol u mfs just say anything
@Matthew Vides I interpreted his statement differently. He qualified self awareness with “this.” As in, there are different levels of self awareness. Now…if he meant players are dumb…then yeah, your insult is well deserved.
@@ryanvaughan3794 lol you wanna speak on this now ?
Do ppl realize that players say "beat Lebron" or "lose to Lebron" and not the teams he played for?? That shows how dominant he's really been.
Dude went to the Finals like 8 years in a row, the path to the Finals was always through LeBron in the 2010s, no matter what teams existed in the east
No doubt Lebron is one of the best players individually the game has ever seen but he’s also unbelievably overbearing to the point that no matter what team he plays for, that entire team now goes through him. So in some ways, he basically is the team
@@John-mj7ii Heliocentric offenses are a newish fad since about 2014 on his Cleveland return (see: Luka and the Mavs as the most modern example), and they often post gaudy ORTGs, but are eminently more stoppable in the playoffs because they’re built so rigidly with little margin for error (see: Trae’s Hawks this year)
@@kunalmishra9463 but luka isnt lebron though
@@ramzyy5362 That is true... but he's also not NOT LeBron. They're in the same conversation, talent and impact wise, at this point in their careers, and Luka is widely considered as the most talented youngster/generational talent since LeBron. Commandeering some of the most efficient regular season offenses of all time, along with posting arguably the greatest offensive rookie season is nothing to scoff at.
I hope JJ can land interviews with the "What if" players of the NBA: Greg Oden, Brandon Roy, Markelle Fultz. Especially Fultz because of their brief time in Philly together, just to talk about the mental and psychological hardships and Fultz getting knowledge from JJ to push him moving forward.
Great idea.
He’ll probably comeback on the show after he comeback from injury
There's already a podcast with Fultz.
Oden would've been an all star in this era.
They talked about exactly that with Fultz my guy. Look it up
Marcus: We believe we would have beat the Warriors if we had beat Lebron.
Jayson: We would not have beat the Warriors if we had beat Lebron.
Right lol
Optimism vs Realism
@@Watermelon_Man *delusion vs realism
@@bilindabutcher8913 Utopia vs delusion, optimism & realism😁
There lies the problem!
So this is why I love this pod-cast he remembers all the games he remembers the teams this is a player that’s competitive and if I’m a GM and he becomes available you make a move - fantastic - I love hearing players talk about the games themselves because if they care this is what they talk about - JJ excellent content
Called knowing the game , good research and knowing your guest as a great host which JJ is
Memory is cool, but I also imagine that HW was done ahead of time. I don’t see anybody pulling RANDOM FACTS in a conversation they aren’t prepared for.
Also add to the fact that they LOVE THIS SUBJECT. They’re not talking about something they’re only half-interested in💯
Can't wait until Lebron starts doing podcast interviews regularly because his play by play memory is topnotch.
If who becomes available JJ or JT? Cuz JT a Celtic for 4 life buddy lol 😂
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.”
Hebrews 12:14 NIV
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"beaten lebron in game 7, we weren't gonna beat golden state" Lebron is the team, and Golden State is the team. Thank you Tatum
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yea u weird fam
@@DiamondFeedzz u don’t remember that 2017-2018 Cleveland team?
this is nothing but facts
@@sevtene trash
Gotta appreciate JJ creating this podcast. Since he once was a player himself, it’s more so an empathic conversation amongst players about the game and their experiences vs. their flaws.
ua-cam.com/video/UTc4ZyWVFr0/v-deo.html 🤣🤣
As a Celtics fan, I've always blamed Kyrie for those postseason failures and I partially still do but what Jayson said about Kyrie clearly being the best player on the team was true. If I was the best player on my team, I want the ball in my hands and I would want control too.
Feed your guys, win championship.
@@emmanuelmondesir1314 it's not that easy. 'Feeding' your guys doesnt always work. It's about knowing your role, being prepared and knowing when to deliver.
@@kaydee1485 It really is that easy if your position is “point guard”. Shooting guards and power forwards are another story.
He literally avg the least turnovers in guards all time
@@osas5211 because he’s a shooting guard playing point. He’s always looking to set himself up for a shot rather than keeping an eye on the other 4 teammates seeing if they have an easier basket. Fewest turnovers as a guard isn’t as great of a stat as you’re thinking it is. Every championship team has had a playmaker running the offense and there’s ball movement, when there’s no ball movement you’re not getting past that championship game.
What makes JJ great is how he allows players to speak and how ge directs the flow of the conversation without rushing the guest
Bruh u said it! All these sports analyst who never played be having the most to say. Like bruh we not here for u! JJ needs to keep this and don’t go to a ESPN or anything like that.
As well as he has personal relationships with most of the players if not all he interviews
Excellent listening skills for sure!!!
Hate when the host ask 3 questions while the guest still answering the first
The bar is on the floor for y’all… Jesus Christ
Very honest thoughts from Jayson. I like how he wasn't delusional and stayed grounded when they said even if they beat Lebron in '18 that they would've won against the warriors. Also making the point that he wanted to be #2 behind Kyrie. Very wise person beyond his years, hopefully him and JB get the opportunity to make a deep post season run again
We need to see more of this side of him. Idk who’s sheltering him and the other celtics but this is a charming yet intense, fire in the belly to win player. Sounds a lot like a Celtic. Wish fans were allowed to see this side of him more. #proud
@@NBAHistoryCLNS understand that he was groomed in the league by guys like Kyrie and Horford - Kyrie distrusts the media so much but also understands their agenda towards guys who give too much of themselves out through quotes. Very few players really want to be a quote machine for reporters and the ones that do tend to have issues - we see that with Shaq since his retirement. and Al horford actually knows how to give honest sounding non-answers. Hence why Tatum isn’t in the business of giving out sound bites. I don’t agree that one needs to be a narcissist in order to be an alpha. It’s part of why Tatum doesn’t alienate teammates through the press - he other doesn’t have that desire (which is good) or he sees the forest through the trees and understands it’s unnecessary (which is great)
@@NBAHistoryCLNSThe thing with JT is, I don't think it's sheltering, it's just how he was taught to deal with the media. First off, I don't think he really likes talking to them for very obvious reasons like other players around the league. The media will take whatever you say and twist it into this ridiculous narrative to start drama. It's why Hayward even admitted that he has a list of very to-the-point and generic answers to a number of common things the media asks, it's even possible JT learned from that.
Then there's also the fact that JT's mom, while raising him, trained him in taking interviews to prepare for being in the NBA one day. 2017 Bleacher Report article: - _"But ask Tatum where his confident and mature demeanor comes from, and he'll tell you he owes it all to his mom. At home, his mother drilled him. Tatum would be playing NBA2K in his room, and his mother would pop in and tell him to pause the game. Then she'd shove a hairbrush in his face. Mom, taking a break from her career as a lawyer dealing with policy and compliance, was the interviewer, and Jayson was the star player. She'd grill him about the video game like she was Craig Sager. "Who's going to ask me these questions, ma?" Jayson would say. Her reply: "ESPN-when you're one of the best players in the country."_
JT was raised to be in the NBA, it's his dream. A big part of that is just dealing with the media, and often times, being as generic as possible when dealing with them so they can't twist quotes from you just makes sense.
@@NBAHistoryCLNS lol you going too deep into it that’s just his personality. It always has been he’s just getting more comfortable now that’s all.
They just took down the Bucks to make it to ECF. This might just be the year!
This podcast is so good. Good Job JJ.
And Tommy
@@mitchellbaker3079 facts
Right. A podcast with him and Draymond would be incredible. The players would feel so comfortable.
This team had kyrie,Tatum,brown,rozier,Marcus Morris,al horford,Gordon Hayward, Marcus smart, and Daniel thesis this is probably one of the most talented roster in nba history
You tried to sneak Daniel Theis in there lol
@@tttsss1357 😭
I think Kawhi, Lowry, Siakam, FVV, Gasol, Ibaka, Green, OG, Powell has it beat. Very close tho.
Except for Gordon@
@@MapleLeafsPWN Harden, Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Perkins
3:43 JJ looking at Tatum like a proud father lol
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lool he's like "I'm so proud of you my duke son"
I was thinking the same thing hahaha F Duke tho but yeah
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JJ: Yep that's my boy
Facts 😂😂
Humility at its best. Salute to you Jayson Tatum.
This podcast, albeit unintentionally, has sorta become therapy for active players lol
As a Boston native and lifetime Celtics fan, I honestly hope they keep JT and JB around for the long haul. They play so well with eachother and if one’s not doing so hot one game, the other one always picks up the slack
I don’t see them being split up. Would be a terrible move.
Tatum, Brown, and Smart. Those are the three players we simply must keep.
@Big Spill boston should have kept IT
@@Salvatore1268 pretty sure he wanted a max. So that’s a no. He was great in Boston, but that would become such a liability of a contract
@@Peter-vo8sf but Peter that chemistry was really special
Props to JJ for leveling up with incredibly insightful questions. The player’s choice to be interviewed by because his ego doesn’t get in the way! Ego prevented the Celtics from “gelling.” I like how JJ defends players from the media and themselves with understanding and empathy. Shout out to Tatum for being honest and vulnerable. I can see him holding a Championship Ring in the near future. And I can see this show in a proper studio.
This take aging like fine wine bro. Just one series left.
When he says "beat Lebron", that was literally the truth. Lebron was the team in 2018. I mean 2018 playoff Lebron was really scary dominant and amazing. The whole world saw what Lebron could do if he just wanted to carry the team every night. But it felt exhausting watching him carry that team every playoff game lol
I watched 90% of the games in that 2018-19 season, and it is fascinating to hear Jayson admit what I knew all along. That deep run in 2018 was, ironically, the worst thing that could have happened to the Celtics at that juncture. Ainge had signed the two high-profile free agents for a lot of money, both of whom were injured for the 2018 playoffs. When Irving and Hayward returned, Tatum, Brown, Smart, and Rozier clearly thought they were the nucleus. They fought with Kyrie for the ball and all but ignored Hayward. By the end of the season, Kyrie was calling them out publicly, and Hayward had crawled into a shell and was nothing more than a decoy.
Fr we were trying to mesh our “war chest” of assets, and we never meshed. Gordon snapping his leg in Cleveland is an NBA history-altering moment. In the end I’m more than happy we have Brown and Tatum (and Al) to show for it.
Yes, that's why I don't listen to ESPN and retard3d fans who keep making up stories and blaming stars they hate. At least here Tatum admitted that it's everyone's fault. Tatum has accountability and he's a true leader which is what the celtics need.
Ego is always why sports teams fail. The idea that it’s “everyone’s fault” just isn’t accurate when egos are involved bc it was and is obvious that Kyrie is was and always has been the biggest ego on every single team in his pro career. That’s why, even at nearly 30, he’s not a leader, nor will he ever be. Tatum admitting why it didn’t work shows a level of maturity that he has NOW-at AGE 24-which let’s you know he’s going to be a far better person and leader than Irving. I won’t be surprised if Boston wins the East tbh.
@@lynnerose7891 so Rozier going live on television challenging Kyrie calling out management wasn’t a problem y’all always wanna blame Kyrie when it was an everyone problem
@@lynnerose7891 You must not remember the 2019 season well. Rozier was being a locker room problem from the beginning. He got so egotistical after the 2018 run that he demanded to start over Kyrie before the regular season even began. He was also garbage during the season. And of course, he went on live TV and threw the rest of the team under the bus.
Its been a long time since Celtics have had "the guy." That guy that every basketball fan knows and respects. Jayson Tatum is that dude. Really proud of him and all he's done, as someone who graduated high school the same year as him and is currently finishing up college lol.
Great interview. I’m a Sixers fan, I always root for Boston to lose, but you can’t hate on Tatum. Incredible player and a very likable guy. Wish we would have drafted him instead of the guy that forgot how to shoot.
Which one?
@@losequis7682 Markelle fultz
@@lileazy9001 didn´t get the joke lol
@@losequis7682 😂😂
@@losequis7682 lmaooooooo
The 2019 Celtics were really 1of the 3 most stacked teams in the league that year along with the warriors and the raptors
You're not winning with Kyrie. 2 guard in a 1 body.
Thats a reach. The Raps were playoff ready with that starting lineup and a top 5 defense. Had smart players, playmakers with playoff Lowry, Kawhi and Siakam along with VanVleet's hot shooting picking up at the right time. Gasol may have been slow but dude was also key in playoff matchups vs Embiid and Lopez. Nick Nurse is also a very talented coach who knows how to adapt and fight small ball lineups. They were the real perfect storm in the EC.
@@GOODLUCK77 Kyrie is literally the main reason Cleveland even has a ring you sound like a casual
@@youngmelo3717 no. He had Lebron who was the True point guard. Kyrie was a 2. Can't be the leader of a team. He needs to be the second best. He is 1 dimensional. Can't guard anybody, can't pass. He an assassin who needs help.
@@GOODLUCK77 Why do people always say kyrie doesn’t pass?? He’s obviously a score first type player but y’all literally don’t watch him play enough to know he is not a bad passer.
He obviously ain’t no Chris Paul, but because he not averaging 10 assist “HE’s A bALL hoG”.
Damn dude I already respected Tatum, but this added a whole new layer of that. He took accountability in all of these stories and situations, and didn’t point fingers even though there were clearly problems outside of his control. That’s a leader right there, and I hope the Celtics can put it all together soon and get that long-deserved ring.
Damn he was pretty candid and real about it respect to Jayson Tatum.
It's great how honest Jayson gets and how he basically explains the biggest threat to great teams: the disease of more
I'm a Iifelong Celtics fan and I love Tatum's honesty. He's not the most A type personality but he really does want to win and I love that he always takes personal accountability and doesn't put himself above the team.
jayson is the perfect player for boston. he’s so smart, mature, obviously talented, and very team oriented even if he is a ball dominant guy. he’s a guy i wanna see in green through thick and thin
The blink and 5 years gone by is crazy. He my favorite player, and it actually feel like these 5 years gon by in a blink
James 4:14
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
The LeBron dunk was nice, but what i love was the immediate go ahead 3 that followed it. Tatum put up 5 quick points to go up by 1 with like 4 or 5 minutes left, but then he never touched the ball again and i just can't understand why the team and the coach weren't like "give it to Tatum!"
He did touch the ball for a final time. He turned it over. But I agree he should’ve got another shot attempt.
Cause HE A ROOKIE
@@Doggomorph yeah and was a good one
Brad stevens was a terrible coach
@@ActionJacksonForever you don’t know ball
Respect to the man for owing it!
This right here is why we love this kid. Humility and honesty coupled with immense talent. He's our guy and always will be. Let's get #18.
So nice to listen to dudes talk about their jobs and the game with intellectual depth and also free of studio drama. Keep it going JJ!
As a celtics fan, I was very excited coming into the 2018-2019. I was hyped at the fact that we friggin have Kyrie in our roster and he’s not even the biggest reason why I was excited of the Celtics’ future. I was more hyped at the fact that we have JT and JB. That team was so stacked man. They could’ve easily been the second best team if the managed to pull it together.
Hayward really got affected by the broken leg injury, i think had he not gotten injured, celtics would've had a great chance at winning the 2018 championship if we also count that JB and JT progress similarly during the season. In 2019 like JT said in the podcast, the young guys wanted too big roles, in 2018 it would've been just right for everyone.
@@kaitsu1952 so true dude, 2018 they were just on fire and gel’ing so well. Even without hayward, they went on that crazy win streak and kyrie was playing unreal. If kyrie didnt go down for the playoffs, couldve had a run at the title.
@@hynesceltics60 I remember that
Nope, C's defense still not there yet, their defense is still not on the level where they can even slow down GSW yet
@@immanuelsky4982 care to read my comment again?
If you actually like basketball and how they play this podcast is the best for it. Talks about every team mostly (talk about the wolves more) love u jj been a fan since the clippers.
At the beginning JT says he knew they wouldn’t beat Golden State but a couple weeks ago Marcus Smart said they definitely would’ve 💀💀
Were they talking about the same years? Cause Tatum was talking about not beating GS without Kyrie the first year. I didn’t watch Smart’s interview
@@thrillwill5 it doesn't matter which year they talking about they still weren't beating them
@@thecreed1212 you don’t even know what I’m talking about lil nigga mind yo business
@@thrillwill5 Watching back the Smart interview, I’m pretty sure Smart was talking about the 2017 Celtics and 2018 Celtics for Tatum.
@@brickathon7322 Nah they were both talking about 2018. JJ Reddick has a snippet of the Marcus smart interview called “Marcus smart believes they would’ve won against golden state in 2018”
I don’t how people can blame kyrie for the Celtics not working. Especially the first year they had amazing chemistry and everyone knew their role. The second year you could clearly see people had different agendas and Tatum acknowledged it right here.
Also people say he ruined Cleveland. A chip and 3 straight finals appearances doesn't sound too problematic to me 😂
@@anesu846 right and what probably would’ve helped if they didn’t try to trade him every off season
@@travisv453 always a good start when keeping a player happy
@@anesu846 especially when that player was a big factor in winning you’re chip and hit the biggest shot in nba history.
Nobody talks about that part just blame kyrie but if you watched the team play you could see it and Stevens just stand there and do nothing like nash does for the nets now😐
I like how he said Kyrie was the best player
He just didnt get to see all star Utah Hayward
@@drzalejandro7 Hayward has never been on Kyrie’s level. Chill
@@jayslim4 scoring ability is one attribute Kyrie is better than Hayward at and thats it.
I respect and appreciate Tatum’s honesty. I’ve said it before the 2018-19 Chip burned A LOT of teams. Teams assumed everything would play out the same way is a huge hypothetical. GS had no bench and the three all stars forgot how to play without Durant leading. The two games GS won was a total of 6 points against the Raptors. When a team no one expects anything from all their accomplishments will always be over looked. BOS problem is mismanaged egos and stars. I call it the curse of Danny Ainge. Messing with Isiah Thomas like that is proof that they don’t appreciate their players. Al Horford, Crowder, IT, and Terry they dumped, ran for G Hayward, didn’t take into account that Kyrie has never had the team success as he did with LBJ. BOS has been a damn good team for 7-8 seasons but the talent and everyone accepting their roll has stunted their progress.
Never understood why Kyrie took all the blame when it was clear as day everyone had an ego. You could argue that he was suppose to be the leader, but when guys don't cooperate you can't force someone to respect you. His series against the bucks was inexcusable but tbh I think rozier and hayward were a big reason they didn't pull it off. (Granted Rozier did ball out while Kyrie was injured his first year).
Then we wouldn’t have scary Terry.
Because Kyrie is team poison wherever he goes?
@@wojomojo Explain sir.
@@discowolf25 true bro🤣
The media obviously doesn't like Kyrie, so they will always make him the scapegoat in every situation.
Excellent content casual setting relaxed atmosphere everybody waiting their turn to talk not talking garbage I think this guy’s legit man good work great podcast keep it up
The key in what Redick is able to do in these interviews is trust. Players trust his genuine interest and honesty in the questions he asks and the conversation he generates. It seems many players don't have the same trust for most traditional media members.
Now he can come back and talk about why the 2021-2022 Celtics didn’t work.
they did work tho
Your interviews are awesome JJ. Keep it up.
As a Celtics fan this was on of the best interviews
Damn this just made me like Taytum even more. He’s hardworking, talented, articulate, athletic, and a dawg.
It’s really cool that JJs doing a podcast it’s much easier to know the players more deeply and very cool especially during a real season! It’s awesome!
love the honesty that guys like jj, matt barnes and stephen jackson have. It's refreshing
guys like jj and matt*
Props to you JJ. I was a big fan of u on the court, but the things you´re doing off the court is impressive, your interview skills are tremendous! Shoutout to your right hand man aswell
This is why Tatum has become such a fan favorite and top player in Boston. He is well spoken, articulate and doesn't make excuses
Interesting that through this segment, they don’t even mention the bucks by name: the heat, the raptors, (lebron) and the cavs but even while discussing that 2019 year, there is no discussion of the playoff series that only went to 5 games against the younger bucks.
Celtics won to nuggets, heat and all those other teams but they lose to the pistons? like what?!?
Steak gotta end eventually
We were missing Smart and Rob, and the Pistons couldn't miss a shot. Definitely still should've won tho.
No smart or timelord
Two best defensive players out had a big impact
If even one of them plays they win it for sure
No Smart and Williams and the Pistons had one of their best games all year. The Celtics should have won, but it happens of course.
@@evilpopcorn-3449 facts, we lost by 1 and had a chance to win. This is the NBA every team has a chance to win every night. But the Celtics still played amazing defense
So this is why I love this pod-cast he remembers all the games he remembers the teams this is a player that’s competitive and if I’m a GM and he becomes available you make a move fantastic I love hearing players talk about the games themselves because if they care this is what they talk about - JJ excellent content
y u just copy another comment
A diehard Boston Celtics fan from the city of Boston. Refreshing to actually hear this because I could see the frustration in their faces and in their game. It’s coming together this year though. Play as one!
Great podcast 🔥
Shut up Kennard YRG
Great podcast! Love my boy JT! Been following this kid since we drafted him and I knew from his first interview this kid is going places! Talent and hard work are necessary but how a player matures mentally is as important. Infact, it's the decider when it comes to becoming a superstar. Decision making which requires high offensive and defensive IQ. Big up
It is simple the younger players had alot of playing time with their top two players being out. Then when they put them back together the young players wanted playing time and had a hard time trying to figure out rotations (minutes) and touches. The young players egos got to them along with injuries and of course Kyrie drama. Now the young guys have what they wanted and it is up to them to step up and lead the team to a championship
Part of being that guy is being a leader, especially at the point guard position. Kyrie went to that locker room and tried to prove he was the best 1v1 player instead of showing those guys a winning culture. It’s no wonder they were worse with him there.
Brad Stevens was supposed to define the roles, he never did. It took a new coach to get Jaylon and Jayson to understand playing as a team instead of solo. Kyrie’s first year he was playing like a legit PG and everything went smooth until he got hurt. Rozier, Smart, and Brown wanted the shine of Kyrie and Hayward. Hayward should’ve been traded after his injury tho, he clogged up the forward spot on the roster and he wasn’t better than the young guys wanting minutes. Brad Stevens was the problem.
@@1chrischoice great points
@@grega3611 facts
@@grega3611 last I checked in the first season with kyrie they was the 1 seed but I guess that doesn’t matter right 😒
Can’t automatically assume that just because a superstar is on the team that everyone will automatically have chemistry. 🤷🏽♂️
Wow. This is actually how my real life has been. My daughter is 7 now and I look back like where did time go. When she was so young I'd say I have plenty time to do whatever, now the window is closing. I needed to listen to this today. Wow.
Now you have to do another why the 2022 Celtics didn’t work
i love this podcast man yall need to get kawhi on here lmao
This podcast is great. I only catch clips of it here on UA-cam but as an basketball fan since 5th grade, I’ve gained incredible insight into the NBA, basketball, and player mindsets that I would never learn elsewhere.
Just came here to say they should make this video annually. “Jayson gets very honest about why the Celtics didn’t work out”
Interesting! Because ESPN will have you believe that Kyrie Tore up that locker room 🥴🥴
Casuals believe the nonsense
🤦♂️
Facts bro
He certainly did nothing to help! What a leader
You can tell who has common sense by what they think of this situation😂
I initially started following the Celtics because of Kyrie, and then when he got hurt the Celtics were still playing really good. But it wasn’t a one man show but the team dynamic was unique where one guy could have a bad game but then somebody else can step up.
Remember the 16 game winning streak they had with Kyrie then he got hurt ppl forget that
Hes not lying tho that Boston team was STACKED and would have been insanely good for years
PG- Kyrie
SG- Tatum
SF- Brown
PF- Hayword
C - Al Horford
Scary Terry
Marcus Smart
I think they had Theis back then as well
I’m so happy I found your YT Podcast channel, keep up the great work J.J.
Tatum is really mature to look in himself and not point the fingers he will be back
He's a dad people forget that - becoming a parent matures you in a much faster way and allows you the space to view things differently.
That's why he's not stressed about all the outside noise from the media.
The 2018'2019 season still breaks my heart... ky my favorite player but he shot abysmal in that series vs the Bucks. And so did Tatum.... but kyrie was chucking goin 1 on 3 and the the rest of Boston was missing their 3s, Brad didn't have nobody cutting to the rim. Its just... its just.... ugh 😔
No chemistry in that team thats it. Stop whining
@@davadj7170
I... i was just venting 🤧
I love how real and honest Jason is here.
back here after Boston made it to the finals. this team has had it a long time coming!
Bout to get honest again tonight XD
I love these topics, it gives such a good insight into how people approach the game and think about the game. Him saying he thought that Celtics team was the most talented even above the warriors in 2019 is very telling for what he values in talent.
Wow a podcast where the host doesn’t interrupt after every couple sentences. Refreshing
I like to see the point of view of the players it’s a lot physically but mentally as well; without ESPN or Fan drama.
I think it's not only about age and ambitions of Jaylen and Jyson or Kyrie not being a leader. It's about coaching. Imagine Steve Kerr or Gregg Popovich coaching that team.
JJ looks at JT like a proud dad
Thank you jj for giving a place for Tatum to really speak on the situation!
This is why podcasts are better than national tv/radio. No need for sensationalism and division, just honest wholesome casual entertaining conversations
You mean you don’t love the shouting men in suits sitting behind shiny desks?! Yes, neither do I.
That's exactly what I thought happened, rookies had too much ego after getting far into the playoffs without kyrie, and not wanting to be second best on the team, thats why kyrie said "I'll stay if you will have me" guess they wouldn't have him
Kyrie is on team number 3 with chemistry issues. Seems like a common denominator to me
@@itisnottaken4444 so is Durant, so is LeBron, do think they have chemistry issues? Just because Stephen a Smith says there is chemistry issues doesn't mean there is. Every teammate that played with kyrie speaks well of him, it's the media who has a problem with him.
@@xFlow777 he wrecked that Boston team..instead of coming and being a mentor to Jalen and Jayson, he tried to assert his will and be the number one option. Then was passive aggressive and non communicative when they reached out for him. He's such a huge distraction and gets injured too much for the amount of friction he causes. You could tell Tatum was just giving a PC answer so he wouldn't be in headlines.
@@itisnottaken4444 Jason just told you what wrecked that team lool rookies with huge egos who didn't want to be option number 2... were you listening?
@@xFlow777 Of course jayson will say that because that’s the most appropriate answer right now. They had every right to have egos and to want to be a big part of the championship run. Kyrie can in and wanted to impose his way which rubbed everyone the wrong way. And when both he and Jalen attempted to rectify the situation, they were met with passive aggressiveness.
Tbh, JJ is really changing the game. He’s getting a lot of honesty out of the players on the ins and outs of basketball. Well done G! 👊🏾
Just wanna give a shout out to JJ from a overseas NBA fan. English is not even my second language and I always lack of motivation to learn until watching this show. Thanks🙏
That run in ‘18 where they took Cleveland to game 7 was both a gift and a curse. Those young guys took a tremendous leap that year and were only a few plays away from making the finals. As a Celtics fan it was great to watch.
But on the flip side I think the young players got used to the limelight and the minutes and the feeling of carrying a team deep into the playoffs. And when it came time to take a back seat to the veterans, they didn’t want to give up the minutes or the ball and you could just see that the chemistry was off from there.
It’s too bad too because that team had a ridiculous amount of talent. Imagine that collection of players today. You had 5 guys on that team that go for over 20 on a regular basis.
A lot of people like to blame Kyrie for the whole thing but I’m not sure the blame should really be on him. I think Kyrie is a really talented basketball player but not a great leader. That team needed an alpha, someone like KG or Kobe. Unfortunately that’s not Kyrie’s personality and it just didn’t mesh…
Is what it is.
Glad to see the Celtics are playing good again and it seems like the chemistry is good for the first time since Tatum’s rookie year. This was a solid interview I will be tuning in for more podcasts in the future
If everyone is healthy. I think the Celtics are the best team in the NBA. I hope injuries don’t derail them. They need Smart, and Tatum.
@@ericgrimes341 Agreed Eric. I think they have the most talent. Golden State is certainly up there too. If they manage to get past Miami and GS beats Dallas that’ll be a crazy finals matchup. What a run they’ve had so far though. One of the toughest roads to the finals I’ve ever seen a team have and they are the 2 seed!
@@johnthechosen1123 So true. That series against Milwaukee was a gut check. I figured if they got past the Bucks they had the stuff. Can’t forget they swept the *best* player in the NBA KD too. I think Bostons team has more experience in tough games. You look at guys like Wiggins and Poole who push GSW over the edge. They’ve never been in the playoffs, let alone a finals. Boston has been percolating for 5 years. Boston in 6. Maybe 7 if the roles for GSW show up. Damn a game 7 would be fun as hell.
@@johnthechosen1123 Last years final was competitive but not really. You had a feeling the Bucks were gonna get it. This year? Woo baby. Smart guarding Curry/Klay. Tatum versus Draymond. Al Horford and Jaylen are looking unguardable when’s team key in on Tatum. Woo baby! Let’s go!!
@@ericgrimes341 definitely exciting times to be a Cs fan. Fingers crossed they get it done tonight in Boston. They need some rest. Been playing every other night since game 4 or 5 of the Milwaukee series!
This shows how amazing warriors super team is compared to all the others, the core literately dropped their egos and won 2 back to back chips, and 3 without injury, the fact is KD on any other stacked team has not won, this is probably applicable to 99% of the top 30 player in the league right now (with expection of Warrior players).
I love that proud look on JJ's face at 3:42 when Tatum said I'm gonna be good for a while. I like to think it's the Duke connection and he's looking at him like a little brother like yeah man, I see you coming up and I support you with that.
“I was fully aware of what I had just done” 😂 we all were
Haywards leg was the beginning and the end to me.
I love this podcast,where they can talk more freely instead of for “views” like why can’t ESPN Honestly do this.. it really shows that these guys are humans instead of “players,chess pieces”
Advertisers plus that emotional(borrowed from Disney their parent company) model is all they know so that their default
Man this is one of the top podcast period. All real no extra bs. And JJ let’s guys finish their thoughts and keeps it basketball.
This podcast is amazing good work bro
So basically they were feeling themselves and wanted the bag and to be the man. Brad kept trying to make Hayward a starter and it cause a lot of infighting and resistance to Kyrie as the lead.
So how do the people who blame Kyrie feel? Here is Tatum admitting him and brown and Terry didn’t want to take a backseat
Yes he’s taking part of the blame. But let’s be honest Ky sold
@@joshlitman8310 Tatum is one player now add JB and Terry and Hayward cmon dude be real if nobody is gonna sacrifice the team was doomed, im not saying Kyrie gets no blame but the narrative that he was the reason is clearly false now
That's just youth and inexperience. The media just wants to blame Kyrie instead of telling the truth.
It was a combination of a lot of things Kyrie deserves a large part of the blame with the way he addressed the media and handled it but it went deeper beyond that when the young guys didn’t want to take a back seat
@@mccoygaminginc.5350 yeah but the thing is they were young guys, you expect them to be immature and pull that kind of stuff, and for the vets to guide them and be leaders to control the locker room. When Kyrie played with Bron and was like that Bron kept him under control, made sure he knew his role, and helped him succeed. That’s what great leaders do. Kyrie is a great player, but NOT great leader, and that was the issue.
Also Brad Stevens is just as much if not more to blame here imo as Kyrie. He should’ve controlled his locker room and clearly didn’t, it’s on the coach just as much as on the veteran players to make sure everybody gels and Brad fucked up. They had the young talent but the coaching staff and vets failed to guide those young guns to greatness.
Kyrie came to Boston to be the dude, but he wasn’t, and that’s why people blame him. He wanted to be Lebron but didn’t have the leadership to be Lebron, so he left the team to play second fiddle to KD
Love JT man, nothing beats the Boston announcer screaming "JAAAAAAAAAAAAY TEEEEEEE FOR THREEEEEE" lets go Celtics !!!!!
It's crazy to see JJ go from the most HATED college basketball player, iykyk, to one of the most respected NBA players and most beloved sports analyst man, keep changing the game in media
Notice how he said “if we beat lebron” 😂😂😂 the man is a whole team to himself
He would have said that about any superstar
Now he's a champion
JJ wit the subtle flex wearing that Augusta National hoodie
this is one of the best podcasts for hoops 💯💪🏽
Would love to see JJ interview former or current referees
The Celtics were too inexperienced in 2018 even with Horford. They won only 1 road game the entire run.
So they were a lot more inexperience the next year cause can't even pass round 2 while they reach game 7 of the ECF the previous year????? Is That it???
Nope, you hear what Jayson said? It wasn't inexperience. They made the ecf the previous season
@@markfourtwenty9897 no the east just got much better the next year including that bucks team that beat them.
@@brendanbloom3366 much better??? that same Bucks that was almost swept in the 2nd round by the Heat in 2020 while the same Boston team (minus Kyrie) put up a better fight against the Heat in the ECF...That would be a closer series if not for some lucky plays and questionable call by the ref...
*Do the math to see who's the culprit*
2018 no Kyrie = game 7 ECF
2019 with Kyrie = game 5 second round
2020 no Kyrie = game 6 ECF
@@markfourtwenty9897 do the math? Use common sense. The heat were a bad matchup for the bucks. Giannis in particular. They gaurd him better than any other team. The Celtics could barely win a road playoff game without Kyrie. 2019 east got way better. Sixers added butler and Tobias and Embiid and Simmons got experience. Raptors added kawhi green and gasol. Also added nurse and siakam was most improved plus other guy like OG and Powell were on the rise. Bucks improved. They added Lopez and mitotic and hired new coach Mike budenholzer. They went from a 44 win team to a 60 win team. The Celtics didn't face the bucks in 2020 playoffs. In the 2020 playoffs they beat Embiid and philly who didn't have Simmons or much other help. Kemba also played great that series. Than they barely got past the 2nd Rd in 7 vs a raptors team that no longer had kawhi and green. Also the Celtics were extremely young in 2018 so it's natural for Tatum and brown to get better each year with experience. Also in 2020 when Celtics were on that playoff run, Tatum was on the phone with Kyrie getting advice on leadership and so forth.