Dr. Chojnowski - A Response to the Fatima Center
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Dr. Peter Chojnowski, the Director of Sister Lucy Truth thanks the Fatima Center for finally recognizing that there was a Fake Lucy - He has a few of his own questions for the Fatima Center. Don't miss this, It's historic!
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Dr. Chojnowski is doing heroic work! Bravo. God bless him.
St Paul advised us to “expose the darkness.”
If true it shouldn’t come as any surprise. Rome has lost all credibility.
Incredible and scary. I'm reminded of the case of Sister Agnes Sasagawa of Japan, who received 56 visions of Our Lady at the Akita convent and received the stigmata (1973). The messages confirm those of Fatima.
mother Superior of the convent is ordered not to spread the messages. Sister Agnes is moved from Akita & her location is kept secret but miraculously found at a care facility. (Now aged 93).
Lord have mercy.
I think it’s fascinating that Our Lord, in the August 1931 apparition to Sr. Lucy, in Rianjo Spain, told her that the Popes would suffer the same fate as the King of France, if they didn’t consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. It seems to be a confirmation of sedevacantism: France has been without a King for 200 years, and the Roman Catholic Church has been without a Pope for 65. Thanks for a great show, God bless! ✝️
It makes sense
Not only were they without a king, but the Masons put their men in place. Same in the Vatican.
Superb show, Kevin! Dr. Chojnwoski always “brings the receipts”, as they say. This is such an important topic to bring awareness to Sr. Lucy and expose the heresy of the Vatican II church.
Well done Dr. Chojnowski you have the honor of being the one and only person in the whole world who took the bull by the horns and have made some serious work with regards as to what happened to Sr. Lucia the seer of Fatima. Your project is backed up by various experts that no one has done before. This is the first time ever that such a project is being done. You will be written in the history books forever.
I am not American, I'm from another country in europe. I've been following The Fatima Center in USA ever since Fr. Nicholas Gruner was with us. But I'm afraid to say that ever since Fr. Gruner has passed away, The Fatima Center seems to be deviating and not guided with regards to truth and what is really happening around us any more.
I kept following Fr. Paul Kramer's talks and also don't know what happened to Fr. Isaac Mary Relea. Did he leave The Fatima Center and if so, why?
Seeing those photographs one could easily tell that it isn't the same person and gives one a sense of two totally different characters as well.
I wish to see the day that your investigations eventually will lead us to the truth as to what really happened to the true Sr. Lucia and not the impostor Sr. Lucy before I too pass away, thank you.
Laudetur Jesus Christus 🙏
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Totally right on, Dr. Chojnowski! Thank you, Kevin, for supporting this work!
Thank you. I left a comment asking the Fatima Center why they don't have the Dr on, and it looks like I'm now blocked.
They did that to all people who has sane to question them. After Fr. Gruner died they become a clown of compromise. They destroy all the good work that Fr. did, they kicked Fr. Kramer the co-founder with Fr. Gruner out too.
@@purplescapular4935 shameful 💔. I've got his first edition of, Fatima Priest, where he talks about this.
R.I.P. Fr Gruner.
I think his death looked suspicious 🙏✝️
@@Belladicta They killed Fr. Gruner, everyone who speaks and fights for the Triumph of Immaculate Heart of Mary was a mysterious death, not a surprise at all.
@@purplescapular4935 That's disgraceful 💔
The problem at the Fatima Centre is that layman Rodriguez.
Thank you!! I was waiting for this video by Dr. C. after seeing the Fatima video.God bless!!
Hire J. Warner Wallace from Cold Case Christianity to crack the code.
It was the Dimond Brothers at Most Holy Family Monastery that made the original groundbreaking research into this topic.
Very true, one day they too like Fr Malachi Martin, they will suddenly become e credible. Check out their video on Bergoglio, I think Archbishop at that time, and the sacrilege of a badly dressed couple dancing the tango (the only anathemacised dance by the Catholic church)at too in the sanctuary, during Holy Mass. Bravo Diamond Brothers! God bless you!
They also originally made an assertion that John Paul II was THE Anti-Christ. They also deny that Mary is the Co-Redemptrix and even go as far saying it's heretical to believe when pope after pope give her that title such as Pope Pius XI who said "Mother most faithful and most merciful, who as COREDEMPTRIX and partaker of thy dear Son's sorrows didst assist Him as He offered the sacrifice of our Redemption on the altar of the Cross ... preserve in us and increase each day, we beseech thee, the precious fruits of our Redemption and thy compassion." (28 April 1935 in a Radio Message) They also reject the doctrines of Baptism of Desire and Blood taught in every catechism, and in the Romal Ritual itself. They also say that illusionists get all there power from demons when most if not all of their tricks are naturally explained. They also don't credit those who wrote something as if they wrote it, such as St. Alphonsus Ligouri on death. Need I say more?
@@juliarose9240 “They also originally made an assertion that John Paul lI was
THE Anti-Christ.”
👉 Because he is. He is represented when one of the beast’s heads is mortally wounded and heals. That’s what happened when he recovered from the wound in the 1982 attempt. You also realize that besides being shot he was also stabbed? He healed both times. He sat in the Temple of God in the Vatican and engaged in the worship of Man with his idolatrous Assisi events and heretical Antichrist teachings.
@@juliarose9240 “They also deny that Mary is the Co-Redemptrix and even go as far saying it's heretical to believe when pope after pope give her that title such as Pope Pius XI who said
"Mother most faithful and most merciful, who as
COREDEMPTRIX and partaker of thy dear Son's sorrows didst assist Him as He offered the sacrifice of our Redemption on the altar of the Cross ... preserve in us and increase each day, we beseech thee, the precious fruits of our Redemption and thy compassion." (28 April 1935 in a Radio Message)”
👉 The Magisterium does not teach that she is co-redmeptix. Pius XI making that declaration is not magisterial. A pope can make erroneous statements when he is not speaking ex cathedra. Why? Because Pius XI also said we are all co-redeemers.
“You young people [Spanish pilgrims] ought to associate yourselves with the thoughts and desires of our Blessed Lady, who is our Mother and Co-redemptrix. You too must make every effort to become co-redeemers and apostles in the spirit of Catholic Action.”
👉Clearly we cannot all be co-redeemers. Please grasp the concept that because Our Lady (in a unique way) and the Church help dispense the graces of the redemption that does not make them our co-redeemers. Fallible Theologians and popes in their fallible capacity can make very erroneous statements. You don’t even understand the magisterium if you don’t know when it operates.
@@juliarose9240 “They also reject the doctrines of Baptism of Desire and Blood taught in every catechism, and in the Romal Ritual itself.”
👉 The Roman Ritual is not the magisterium because it is not binding upon the universal church, but only the Latin Rite, hence the “ROMAN Ritual”. When a pope authoritatively promulgates something for a section of the church and not the universal church he is not speaking ex cathedra and is susceptible to error. Evidence of this is seen in the Roman Ritual’s decree that a deformed fetus who looks like a “monster” should not be baptized “if it fails to exhibit a human appearance” (Rituale Romanum, Pope Paul V, 1614, De Baptismo Parvulorum) based on the commonly held erroneous notion of DELAYED ENSOULMENT which was believed by Aquinas, Bellarmine and many popes throughout history. This aspect was corrected by the 1917 Code which is also not magisterial and thus not free from error or blemish, not that these documents are bad, but they’re overall good but not the magisterium. Documents like these along with others like breviaries can be corrected and updated. Unlike the magisterium which is spotless and without blemish and applied to ALL members of the Church and not just a segment.
👉 Also. Baptism of Blood and Desire is not taught by “every catechism”. You don’t know what you’re even talking about. I have a copy of the Catechism of St. Peter Canisius. It does not teach baptism of desire/blood. I have a copy of the Penny Catechism: A Catechism of Christian Doctrine. It does not teach baptism of desire/blood. I have a copy of The Most Rev. Dr. James Butler’s Catechism aka Bishop James Butler’s Irish Catechism. It also does not teach baptism of desire/blood. So you’re dead wrong. And finally, catechisms are not magisterial. The magisterium itself NEVER taught baptism of desire/blood and to those few fallible church fathers who taught it some taught BoD only while others taught BoB only and some taught both, there are those who did not teach it either or denied them both. Simply put, there’s only One Baptism in the Church just as there’s only One Faith in the Church and only One Lord over the Church (Eph. 4:4-5). You cannot separate the water from the blood and the spirit as Pope Leo I taught, which is what BoD/BoB claims occurs.
“They also say that illusionists get all there power from demons when most if not all of their tricks are naturally explained.”
👉 They never said they get ALL their power from demons. They claimed that there is a spiritual dimension to these magicians which is totally true and indisputable. If not, then explain why Catholic Saints condemned magicians if it’s just illusions like hiding something in your pocket? Explain why they attributed the powers of magicians in Ancient Egypt in Exodus to demons? Because there clearly is demonic activity. But if you think it’s not a problem then go ahead and keep covering for them and see where you end up.
“They also don't credit those who wrote something as if they wrote it, such as St. Alphonsus Ligouri on death. Need I say more?”
👉 They literally sell “Preparation for Death” by St. Alphonsus that they quote from in their website. You’re just a calumniating parrot who repeats debunked attacks.
I can’t help but wonder if the imposter Sr Lucy will ever be removed from the grave she is in now, being devoutly honored by people who have no idea what is going on
There is no way a person’s entire facial structure changes.
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The most striking thing about the “2 Lucia’s” is that one looks like she saw hell and the other does not.
this has to be more known
Why?
@@Keith-qj5dp to reveal and proclaim truth!
The Fatima Center is upset their money tree may get pruned.
The three little seers offered up many sacrifices to save souls. It was possible that Sister Lucia having to obey her superiors suffered thus. Or possibly like Padre Pio had demons persecuting her so she could suffer more. The Church wouldn't want people to see this side of her.
Sr. Lucia was absolutely obedient so, if she was asked going forward to be silent, she would have obeyed. So, "disappearing her" would not have been necessary. But, given the level of deception, I am sure there were "men" in the church who wanted her gone, just in case. Better check Cardinal Bugnini's friends at the time.
You’re making it sound like the Fatima Center replaced sister Lucia. You are misrepresenting them
I have a picture of the original sister Lucia as a postulant. She is standing 3 away from the sister with the overbite.
Do you have a link to that photo
It is in the book
Fatima Mysteries: Mary's Message
to the Modern Age Hardcover - March 9,
2017
I am out of town so I can’t give you the page number.
Look for the original Lucia. She is easy to find. The other postulant is on the other side of the statue. Top row .
Would you be willing to contact Dr. C directly? Please let Kevin know at kevin89davis@gmail.com if you'd be willing. God Bless.
Dr Chojnowski- what does Fr Kramer say about Fake Sr Lucy? I've been listening to him on Rense Radio and he never mentions it
He actually states that there's is an imposter
From my memory, i remember Fr Gruner saying that after Sr Lucy's interview with Fr Fuentes, nothing was orthodox. He believed that was her last authentic interview. He said that the purported writings were distinctly different aince then.
I also remember that he had reservations about the imposter in discussion with John Vennari . But, possibly because the initial idea came from the Diamond brothers, I think he was reserved in his open opion on the subject.
What about the death notice in the convent record for Sister Lucia that was recorded in 1958. I have seen it for myself.
at 31:47 Sr. Lucy's hand can be seen behind Kevin. A ghost appears around Peters head at 36:57. The BVM showed three children souls burning in Hell, why? I reject whole enchilada and am in good conscience as a Catholic in a state of Grace. Viva Guadalupe!
Thank you. How horrible 😞
No, there are many representatives of Pius XII who said that he read it. Gary Giuffre covers this.
Thankyou for this.
Wild
Wasn't Jose Maria Escriva and Benedict 16 part of the second sister Lucia???
I was fooled… so could have been fooled all the people who met her, including the popes.
Dr C is awesome! Thank you for bringing us this interview!
Fatima Mysteries: Mary's Message to the Modern Age Hardcover - March 9, 2017
by Grzegorz Gorny (Author), Janusz Rosikon (Author) the overbite sister is not Lucia.
12:24 the Freemason cunning hand shake.
The real sr.lucia died in 57 or 58..there's a record of it at the Carmelite convent . Her birth name, she may have died earlier. I forget the date
I would like more info....and i will never go to this site again
Will say an Ave and remember u in my adoration so that the truth of Fatima is out to the world will embrace Catholicism the true religion just like how mother Mary wants the world to be with her Son Jesus
IMHO this news hurts the integrity of the entire Catholic Church.
It only hurts the integrity of the new novos ordo religion and exposes its fear of the one person alive at the time that, with a few public words, could've exposed the great falling away from the True Faith. If she were around and spoke publicly against the novos ordo at the time, there would've been millions that would have realized the truth. Alas, It was not God's will due to mankind turning away from God and Our Blessed Mother and now we have to suffer through these difficult times with too many not knowing the truth.
The True Catholic Church established by Our Lord will always be under His protection and things like this only make it even more clear that the novus ordo is a false religion. The True Church is just not the easiest to find in today's day and age. You have to be willing to study and to make your life much more difficult in many situations.
Well said -- the real Sr. Lucia would have exposed the falsehoods and dangers of the Second Vatican Council and its aftermath. The real 3rd Secret warns of the apostasy in the Church that we are now living through.
Roy Shoeman have video were face feature specialists claiming that this two different women, and just believe your own eyes
The little baby in the background 😂😂
We love that little baby in the background. Every podcast host should have one. ❤
Then that comment about the final battle being over the family is made up.
When was the true Lucia seen after 1925?
I think Paul VI & JPII could be easily fooled if they never met the actual Sister Lucia.
Both of them were Masonic apparatchiks of the Illuminati Sanhedrin, they knew exactly what was up- this is a long range plan and Fatima exposed it, they couldn't let her expose them, she probably starting squawking loudly in 1960 and they exiled her or killed her.
@loulasher I was 5 years old in Catholic school 1955…sisters of Charity taught us about Fatima… EVERY year of school we
Cont. to learn about it..we saw old news papers and pictures of the real sister Lucia-it was etched in our little souls-we prayed for the conversion of Russia…We had evac. drills during Cuban/ Missile crisis…We knew our catechism and we knew about scary realities in the world, BUT we had Our Lady of Fatima, Lourdes & Guadalupe to get us through!
Also, when pictures of the fake one appeared years later…I knew she was fake & I was shocked!
I grew up in a mid size city in Texas…so if little old me knew she was fake many others did too-including the Popes-God bless
I think that Paul VI and JPII were completely complicit in the fraud and covering up the Third Secret of Fatima. The fraud Sr. Lucy even said that JPII’s consecration was valid and acceptable to Our Lady. Wake up!!
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@@susans1829 that's fair. I know Fatima resulted in a huge shockwave across the Catholic world, the "blue army" being one part of it, but I never got the impression she was a public figure known and recognizable to that degree.
As a convert I feel deeply betrayed. I believed that the Holy Roman Catholic Church was the one true original church. Now with this heretical pope and evil bishops like James Martin I feel the Church is beyond repair. It is so devastating, No denomination is perfect but I feel really drawn to the GOC now. 🤷♀️😱Lord have mercy on us all.
I'm so sorry you feel betrayed by the church. I'm going to pray for you. Truly, it's easy to feel that way right now with things as they are. But please try to keep this in mind: WHICH church do you think Satan would attack - the true church or false churches? This is exactly what is going on. By attacking priests, bishops even the pope, the evil one knows more souls may be stolen from God due to their duty to shepherd the entire flock. It is a very difficult time to be Catholic but this gives us the opportunity to show our faithfulness to God and hopefully achieve sainthood. Also,, the Holy Spirit called you at this moment in time for a reason. You have something the kingdom needs!!!! We do need to pray much for all clergy and the entire world. But God keeps His promises and the Church will NEVER be defeated. We may be part of a small remnant of the church as it is going through its own passion, but the grace and mercy offered by our Lord is wide. It's there for us if we ask for it and cooperate. God Bless you.
Focus on the Sacraments they are still valid and the source of grace we need, God will not let them destroy the Church, these evil infiltrators will be found out.
What is the “GOC”?
I too feel betrayed. Was this imposter known to the Popes?? That would hurt even more.
Stay in the boat. Don't get out because of the Judas in power
2 Lucys
One Lucy, and One big fake.
Sorry. I think it is the real Lucy. She got old!! She wears a denture, she wears thick lenses and she developed jowls maybe 🤷🏻♀️🙏
She was always the same person.
I know what I am talking about.
Lucia was always the same, there are no fake pictures or impostors.
you dont believe your own eyes?
I am an expert on face recognition.
I do It everyday.
She is the same person.
Imaging and photographic methods did change through the years. Specially fom when she was young, until the latest pictures.
I am telling you, she is the same person. All the parameters indicates that.
If you want to believe in a conspiracy, go ahead.
@@rafaelprado1042 and my own eyes, just see her picture from 1957 and later ones.Is no way this is the same person
What is the end game Ghost Busters? After you spend millions of dollars then what? Will you sue the Vatican? If successful who gets the money?
Yay we proved Lucy was fake now give us our Booby Prize
It's about truth and exposure and souls. Many souls will be impacted by this. The more that sever themselves from the novus ordo, the more grace in the world.
It's also a matter of power. The enemies of God leak power whenever their masks are torn away. This will weaken them, both preternaturally and materially. They grow strong under concealment, whereas the light withers them.
I find it strange that you presume that it must be about money. Maybe go to prayer about that. Are you struggling with money issues or struggling with greed?
The “end game” is this imposter was not worthy of the appearances from Jesus Christ, Our Lady, The Holy Trinity, and St. Michael the Archangel. She claims the glories and miracles that never happened to her; a charlatan. We all know Vatican II is not the Catholic Church, so for the Vatican II popes to perpetuate this charade is not shocking. As the other commenter stated it about the salvation of souls, and if souls are led astray by a charlatan that is of great concern. The real Catholic Church does not concern itself with secular lawsuits and monetary judgements. It concerns itself with the salvation of souls, following the laws of God and our final judgement when our souls depart from all earthly things and stand before our Creator.
@@cantatedomino584
About truth: Failed. Exposure: Failed. Souls? EPIC FAILURE
Many souls impacted? Says you. Pure nonsense Beating a dead horse, or in this case a dead woman, will not sever anyone from Novus Ordo How do people come up with such nonsense?
You should hire the Pet Detective to see what happen to the real sister Lucia. If you guys actually believed Fatima there would be a real investigation into her death.