I like your interpretation, its paints Zipporah as not only a supportive partner who helps her husband accept himself and his role, but also someone willing to step up when need be.
One thing I wish I mentioned in this video is that the bridegroom episode fits into a recurring theme of women defying authority to save Moses' life. First Shiphra and Puah, the Hebrew midwives, refused Pharaoh's order to kill newborn boys. Then Jochebed and Miriam hid Moses in the river. Then the Pharaoh's daughter adopted him. And lastly, Zipporah saved him from god's punishment by circumcising their son (a practice that's supposed to be done by the father).
It's always interesting to look at verses like these because whoever compiled Exodus thought this part was important. Otherwise, they wouldn't have included it, but the cultural context necessary to understand it has been lost to time.
It is also possible that the editor didn't know or understand this part either but felt that they lacked authority to drop the whole thing altogether since it sounds very dramatic. God meets them and tries to kill Moses. Would you dare to drop the whole thing? So they tried to condense the story and get on with it as quickly as possible.
@@admiral3075 It's always either that or the context is around, but it's buried in something declared apocryphal that may or may not have lasted due to one single obscure denomination that may not be translated to english.
It was only slightly longer before the circumcision .... then it was slightly shorter. Take my word for it, that's what I've been telling my wife for years.
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 jeez, that sucks lol. I've only been once one. I was like 7, and my grandparents made me go. I only remember the Sunday school teacher talking about Noah's ark. But she explained it in the most boring way possible.
@@unicatsrdabest I ironically learn all bizarre stuff from my priest, he was cool. But yeh, Church try whitewash it so hard, that not surprise it sound boring to most. Bible usually: Jebediah son grow carrot on the field and God bless him. Actually in the bible: And the huge giant seven horned seven eyed goat descend from heaven and as he was messenger of God, he slain thousands enemies of Israel with his laser eyes (slightly exaggerated).
Casual reminder the Abrahamic religions recognize Abraham as the first prophet and worship the same God this goes for the various Christian, Jewish and Muslim religious sects
@@knoobiezAbraham is refered to as the first prophet in the Old Testament, while Muslims do give that title to Adam they also call Abraham the Father of all Prophets and all 3 major ABRAHAMIC religions refer to him as the one that forms the "baseline" for what God wants every believer to be. TLDR; Dare I say as sacred as specific wording might be to many ppl I think at the end this is just semantics.
8:36 Hey it's me! the comment in the centre Btw, the rest of your pronunciation in that video was great and in this video you preformed even better. Great video, Love your channel and keep up with the good work!
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Looking at the story in the vein of the Documentary Hypothesis video: the Bridegroom of Blood story is usually considered as being from the J source, and Joel Baden (following off of Benjamin Bacon) argues that originally in J, Moses leaving Midian (vv. 19-20a) & the Bridegroom of Blood story may have been placed _before_ the Burning Bush, rather than after. Now, this re-arranging doesn't necessarily serve to explain much of the specific details (God's intentions, the circumcision's purpose, "bridegroom of blood"'s meaning, etc), and is still compatible with several of the other given suggestions. However, it does re-contextualize the story as more of a test of Moses by God to see if he is the right person to serve as his prophet in Egypt, rather than God seemingly switching up on Moses after already having given him the job.
I almost considered including this in the video! I agree that the earlier placement of the story makes a lot more sense in the J narrative. I'd love to see more scholars entertain the idea and hear what they think.
I disagree. The story is fine the way it is. God always chooses people before they are ready. He chose Noah before he had any idea what was going on, he chose Abraham who, while old, was unprepared. He chose David while he was still an unproven youth and Jonah who wanted to do anything except be a prophet. God chooses, and the people figure it out. But there are lines that need to be drawn, and God can't have Moses representing the Israelites and setting the events of Passover in motion when his own son is not circumcised. God waits as long as he can, and then he forces Moses, or as it turns out, Zipporah, to act.
Orthodox Jewish school graduator here! Very interesting take. Personally when I studied it in school our teacher gave a cool possible explanation to this story. It happens right after God displays Moses his powers (the snake, the leprosy) And gives him the instruction to demonstrate these miracles to the Kartums (idk how to call them in English sorry). For each miracle, Moses experience it first on himself, then learns to control it after commiting a certain action, right? Now this cycle happens again. God tells Moses that he intends to kill The Egyptians first borns, and threatens or intends to kill Moses' own son- but not really, he is teaching him again how to control this power and protect people from it: by bloodletting, just like the Hebrews did later when they painted their walls with blood. There are still many questions regarding this bizarre, fascinating story, but thats just a nice take I remember. BTW looove the bible videos! :) Are you a native Hebrew speaker?
Not a Hebrew speaker at all, which is probably evident from my spelling mistakes, lol. That interpretation makes a lot of sense. I regret that I didn't mention the possible foreshadowing of the tenth plague.
@@JakeDoubleyoo lol the spelling mistakes make perfect sense, and I didn't see many in your videos at all, that's why I thought you might be native haha. I have so many (too many) takes and connections like that after 12 years of bible studying. If you'll ever need help with finding stuff like that I would be happy to put it all for good use, finally:)
Hi, another native Hebrew speaker here! Don't worry about spelling mistakes, a lot of UA-camrs spell our words backwards (especially חנוכה for some reason). Hebrew is also (to my knowladge) a simple languge, besides not having vowels and writing right to left.@@JakeDoubleyoo
I like this interpretation, it's different from how I read it but I like it. I think the key to understanding the passage is realizing that it is not Moses, but his son, that God was going to kill. (Many of the important people in the Bible have an ordeal where their son was at risk of being killed - this is the one that happened to Moses). God usually lets them off the hook, except for David.
Religious scholars have spent countless ho 6:03 urs for millenia trying to make sense out of nonsense. Seems like a monumental waste of time ... unless it keeps them out of worse mischief.
I think nonreligious people who entirely dimiss the Bible because of its problematic/archaic elements are robbing themselves of what are easily some of the most interesting pieces of literature ever written.
I think you would very much like a channel called The Bible Project. It’s on UA-cam aswell and they have podcasts in which they go deep into the writing of the bible. It’s so interesting!
Which logically wouldn't make sense if they were because this book took sixteen hundred years to write with multiple authors but yet never missing the message or themes of the bible 😊
@@djashovel you are aware the Bible over time has removed and added texts the original Bible is completely different in various ways from the current Bible
I'm not religious at all but very much interested in history and the real background behind the bible stories or any of the myths you cover. Your videos are so enjoyable to watch with the funny animations and great-to-listen-to voice. I am always curious if a new video of yours arrives in my notifications. Thank you for your work!
@@videogollumer So you would be ok with any other book or peice of erotica being given freely to children without illustrations even if said texts included rape, blooding genitalia, and bizarre religious rituals?
6:50 - Little correction- The case of a person who'd murdered and is forgiven if he lives in a city of refuge until the death of the high priest is not actually that similar to Moses's case because you can only be forgiven for your murder if it was an accident (Beshogeg). In the case of Moses killing the egyptian man was intentional, thus the rule wouldn't apply here
Propp acknowledges that by the technical word of the law Moses probably wouldn't be considered an accidental murderer: "Is Moses the manslayer entitled to asylum? Today he might get off with a conviction of second-degree murder, inasmuch as the violence was basically impromptu. Admittedly, the laws of refuge do not protect the second-degree murderer; and Moses did peer this way and that, implying brief premeditation. Nevertheless, he did not really "lie in wait" (Ex. 21:13; Num. 35:20). His was essentially a crime of passion. While an Israelite legist might not grant Moses asylum, an Israelite storyteller could perhaps be more lenient."
@@JakeDoubleyoo Interesting. I just know that the definition of accidental murder in the bible refers mostly to if you dropped your axe on someone, whereas this case is not as simple
I've gotta hand it to you, dude! From what I'm seeing, your research is pretty spot on! And you put it into easy-to-understand phrasing, which makes a serious difference! Good job, bro! keep rocking it!
I love how the law that you can get out of town to avoid prosecution is like foreshadowing for Jesus. We sin, get sent out of Eden and we can’t go back until the high king (Jesus) dies. Crazy stuff
Holy shit, I just started reading the bible and got to that passage literally the day before this came out, and I had no idea what it was talking about.
This section was one of the first of MANY passages I read while growing up, when I was a good faithful religious household child, that made me think "well this is just silly ain't it". Exodus is crazy bazar.
The best context I've ever heard for the use of "God hardened his heart" In the Bible is to think of it like this: God is the sun and the hearts of men are made of either wax or clay. When the sun touches wax It melts and becomes malleable, but when it touches clay it becomes hard and unworkable. In the wider context of Exodus this does kind of make sense because Even after seeing the power of God, the Pharaoh doesn't immediately Acquiesce to the entirety of Noah's demands reasoning that the aim of the Israelites could be to cause harm to Egypt. So in that sense his heart was hardened by suspicion of God's intentions rather than God intentionally making him be difficult. No idea if this is the best way to look at it, but It does seem to fit as the only way to make hardened clay workable again is to destroy it and start over.
Where did you hear the wax vs hard clay analogy? Ive never heard it anywhere, either in history of religion things or in general. Sounds apologist to me tbh
That doesn’t make sense because the original Hebrew doesn’t literally say “harden”, that’s just the English word they chose to represent god making the pharaoh against the idea of letting the people go.
That sounds like something you would see in an episode of a series about the exodus that the author add to make the story and characters make more sense
Is there a possibility that at one point there were multiple gods in the story that were later collapsed into a single one? That would explain the confusing decision of recruiting Moses then immediately turning on him. Perhaps it could also explain how this Yahweh considers only the Israelites to be his people and not the Egyptians as well
Yes, many scholars believe the Torah contains vestiges of earlier polytheistic tradition. Some even argue that the Israelites were still polytheistic at the time the Torah was compiled (personally I don't know if I'd go *that* far).
True. They had basically *just* developed calendars, and the Egyptian one was divided into a trio of 120 day seasons - it's entirely possible that what's translated as "years" was "seasons" and ol' Mo was only like late 20's.
6:16 you made a mistake in hebrew "bridegroom" in hebrew is חתן (Hatan) with the letter final nun you wrote חתו (Hato) with the letter vav which mean "his fear"
I know it was just your personal opinion that made you up with this story but when I think about it, it makes so much sense! Honestly thank you for your hot take!
Neat detail! The first bunch of plagues, it reads that pharaoh had hardened his heart on his own, then later it becomes God being the one doing it. Which makes it look like God gave him a chance to let them go on his own, then after denying Moses, was railroaded until the last plague
This really helped with deconstructing and leaving behind the faith. The whole 'hardening the Pharaoh's heart' was so damn problematic when I read the story for myself, like... couldn't God just have softened the heart of the pharaoh instead? And NOT kill thousands of innocent bystanders that had nothing to do with the whole situation?
6:40 that doesnt make much sense because that law only applies to accidental murder + your exile should be in a few select cities. Even if we ignore the second condition since they werent in the region of future israel, the biggest problem is simply that the murder was intentional. Imo the hypothesis that makes more sense is the one with the circumcision delay, as it would explain God's seemingly sudden anger and why Zipporah's action appeased him
Don't know if this will help in later videos, but a great deal of Bible stories follow the Kiastic trope where the beginning and the end comment on each other with the middle being the more important part.
The "Layman's Hot Take" is pretty similar to a presentation I gave in college (undergrad, so don't take it too seriously, *I am an idiot* ). There, I suggested that Moses's name, traditionally derived from Hebrew _moshe_ or "to draw out" could, according to some scholars, also be derived from Egyptian _mesu_ or "child/son" (like in the name Thutmose, "child of Thoth", just without a theophoric element). The possibility of it being either/or (possibly both for some narrative irony) fueled my thesis of Moses living his whole life within liminal spaces, first between Hebrew and Egyptian as you pointed out, and then between mortal and divine following the exodus out of Egypt. It might not necessarily have been intentional, either by the original authors of Exodus and Numbers, or even by their redactors, but I had fun thinking about it back then. I wasn't really going at it from a theological, faith-based, or even scholarly angle, but from a simple storytelling perspective.
It feels valuable to point out that Zipporah is quoted as saying "surely you are a bloody husband unto me" in the KJV. I've also heard it explained that 1) God hardening Pharaoh's heart was not an active decision by God, but rather it means the thought of God getting what he wants makes Pharaoh angry. Last note, to my understanding God attempts to kill Moses because having an uncircumcised child would make him unacceptable to the Israelites and incapable of leading them. This is a "scared straight" tactic, as God would have known that Zipporah would put the pieces together, and/or God getting ready to start the entire liberation plan over with someone else. I did enjoy you adding more considerations to why their son wasn't circumcised practically speaking.
I really like the new style of animation its so much skinnier and I also like the part where you actually add movement to Moses when he's stirring something very nice
Hahahaha Gotta love Jake’s Films, And Dont mean to make you feel old But I still remember Enjoying your videos Used in Our History class (Our highschool Teacher also likes the way you Yeach History too) back in Early highschool, And now that I'm almost done with college, Still love them
Hi, if you want to explain more weird rituals in other religions, you can cover the Ashvamedha/ the horse sacrifice in the Vedic tradition. Trust me, it gets VERY weird.
4:02 I somehow willnt ever stop bein surprised when i see names like Rabbi José; its just not the kind of name one usually thinks of when imaginin a Jewish person, but here this Rabbi José bein reffed is at least a century ago from us today, likely longer still. Hispanic Jews are totes a thing and have been historically, same with Jews of all sorts of ppl groups. Same with prty much all other religions too; but still our brainsve the stereotype of a Jewish person lookin a lot more like Rabbi Rashi is depicted
The active form of the verb when God is hardening the heart of the pharaoh could just mean he let his heart be hardened, not that he actively hardened it. This is how many other sentences are translated.
I appreciate that you took the time to understand this passage instead of just mocking/or being disgusted (but of course, it ain't wrong to call this one weird imo ... 'cuz it is.)
These mysteries and ambiguity was caused by how the book was composed, by reconciling multiple sources, according to the documentary hypothesis: J: Yahwist (10th-9th century BCE)[1][2] E: Elohist (9th century BCE)[1] Dtr1: early (7th century BCE) Deuteronomist historian Dtr2: later (6th century BCE) Deuteronomist historian P*: Priestly (6th-5th century BCE)[3][2] D†: Deuteronomist R: redactor Same as how the gospels have some different details, but they were not coalesced into one gospel.
Hello, a religious (Orthodox) Jew here. Just wanted to say, regarding your explanation (and maybe this passage in general, IDK): an interesting fact is that in the biblical context, the Midianites are also descended from Abraham - something I don't remember being referred to by commentators on this. Not sure it matters that much, considering historical evidence of circumcision being generally practiced in the area, but when you take the perspective of it being a part of Moses' theoretical identity struggle... Maybe Zipporah had traditions that were related to those of the Israelites, maybe that was a part of her motive there. IDK. I might be a part of a very conservative religious group, but trying to understand the Bible in your own terms is still something I find interesting. Though there was a huge disagreement about it not too long ago...
@@SeattleDinghyer Sure, I suppose that makes sense, but it doesn't seem related to my comment? The video itself notes how weird this passage is, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here at all, so it seems to come out of nowhere.
Your theory makes so much sense, that it's actually very unlikely to be right. The odd and esoteric reasons of the people from biblical times is nearly incomprehensible to us
To be clear, I'm pretty convinced this story originally reflected some obscure tradition that later Israelites forgot about. But openly speculating on that would require a level of expertise on the subject that I don't have. So my interpretation in this video is based on the story as it now exists in the Torah. It's no surprise then that my interpretation of the theme is largely based on Carmen Imes', who doesn't seem to consider things like source criticism in her analyses.
Uhh for 4:26 It’s about the whole covenant thing with the Israelites that people in Abraham’s descendants have to be circumcised that could be a reason God tried to kill him his son wasn’t circumcised and didn’t want Moses to be a hypocrite idk I just watched the got questions ministries videos and it makes some sort of sense?
2:12 so I went to my scriptures (for context I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ) and the notes said that this passage has covenant ties. Then there is a direction to the topical guide for the word circumcision in the Bible and Book of Mormon saying “Circumcision was not peculiar to Israel. It was practiced in Egypt and also by nations with whom Israel had not come in contact. The significance of circumcision was that it was the manifest token of the covenant that the Lord had made with Abraham and his seed.“ so that could help a bit? I haven’t studied exodus yet lol
@0:51 Its actually not that God literally hardens the Pharoah's heart, its the idea of God, someone more powerful and more important then him, pissing the Pharoah off so much that he refuses to do as God commands. At least that is how the few times I was at church explained it to me, and I thought it made more sense then God pulling an "I want the Hebrews to go free... But I also want to have the Egyptians suffer a lot" stunt.
3:16 - I never got this when I read it. I don’t think we covered much of the Old Testament in Sunday School. .. which ultimately because Saturday school. 🤷♂️
This story is a little less crazy sounding when we remember the entire point of the Old Testament: Examples of the shedding of blood for the remission of sin, as God’s plan for redemption unfolds, culminating in his taking on the form of man, in Jesus, to take the punishment for sin, death, upon himself.
I like your interpretation, its paints Zipporah as not only a supportive partner who helps her husband accept himself and his role, but also someone willing to step up when need be.
One thing I wish I mentioned in this video is that the bridegroom episode fits into a recurring theme of women defying authority to save Moses' life. First Shiphra and Puah, the Hebrew midwives, refused Pharaoh's order to kill newborn boys. Then Jochebed and Miriam hid Moses in the river. Then the Pharaoh's daughter adopted him. And lastly, Zipporah saved him from god's punishment by circumcising their son (a practice that's supposed to be done by the father).
@@JakeDoubleyoo This also echo later in the stuff related to Jesus, as woman also play important role there.
she can talk the talk, she can walk the walk, and most importantly, she can snip the snip
It’s nice because she isn’t featured that much
@@JakeDoubleyoo Jake is Aeolus in Greek mythology? if so who is she in it
“Bridegroom of Blood” sounds like something that would be said in Fromsoft games, and no one would agree what the heck it means.
Miquella?
Miquella literally used the “lord of blood” in creating his consort (bridegroom). It fits weirdly well
Well its half right anyways
Sounds like a Powerwolf song.
Bro I love the fact God is usually calling as if it is was part of a discord or zoom meeting
Our world is just fleshy discord.
"Bridegroom of blood? Sounds interesting!"
OH GOD
yes, god!
@@totallynotgad *GOD
@@DragonTheOneDZA might as well go all in. **Y A H W E H*
XD
mogh?
It's always interesting to look at verses like these because whoever compiled Exodus thought this part was important. Otherwise, they wouldn't have included it, but the cultural context necessary to understand it has been lost to time.
It is also possible that the editor didn't know or understand this part either but felt that they lacked authority to drop the whole thing altogether since it sounds very dramatic. God meets them and tries to kill Moses. Would you dare to drop the whole thing? So they tried to condense the story and get on with it as quickly as possible.
Yeah I think a lot of the ambiguous parts of the Torah are a result of compilers not quite knowing what to do with stories from earlier traditions.
@@JakeDoubleyoo yeah honestly I believe that goes for most of the Bible explaining the multiple contradictory verses and messages.
@@admiral3075 It's always either that or the context is around, but it's buried in something declared apocryphal that may or may not have lasted due to one single obscure denomination that may not be translated to english.
I think it was important in context of killing first son context.
little correction: at 6:23 the word for bridegroom is spelt "חתו" when it should be spelled "חתן", the last letter should just be slightly longer.
One day I'll reach 1st grade level literacy in Hebrew.
@@JakeDoubleyoo Remember, Shalom to brothers and Ben'zonah to enemies
It was only slightly longer before the circumcision .... then it was slightly shorter.
Take my word for it, that's what I've been telling my wife for years.
@@JakeDoubleyoo Hey, if you make enough videos you will eventually learn the correct spelling of every word! :P
@@JakeDoubleyoo happy to help you if you want lol.
Rabbis, Priests, and Academics have argued over and studied this passage for centuries. Now Jake is adding to the list of arguing and studying.
Nah, Jake chooses who's right and right and wrong
truly one of the interpretations of all time
Learning about the Bible in church: 😪
Learning about the Bible by watching Jake's videos: 🤩🤩🤩🤩
At least in my Church they repeated the same stories all the time. It quickly became boring
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 jeez, that sucks lol. I've only been once one. I was like 7, and my grandparents made me go. I only remember the Sunday school teacher talking about Noah's ark. But she explained it in the most boring way possible.
@@unicatsrdabest I ironically learn all bizarre stuff from my priest, he was cool.
But yeh, Church try whitewash it so hard, that not surprise it sound boring to most.
Bible usually: Jebediah son grow carrot on the field and God bless him.
Actually in the bible: And the huge giant seven horned seven eyed goat descend from heaven and as he was messenger of God, he slain thousands enemies of Israel with his laser eyes (slightly exaggerated).
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@@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Well there's a years b years and c years where they rotate through passages of the bible.
It's about to get religious here. Can't wait
It’s almost always religious here
Casual reminder the Abrahamic religions recognize Abraham as the first prophet and worship the same God this goes for the various Christian, Jewish and Muslim religious sects
If I had a nickel every time I saw you in the comments…
Wrong, it was actually Adam@@GwainSagaFanChannel
@@knoobiezAbraham is refered to as the first prophet in the Old Testament, while Muslims do give that title to Adam they also call Abraham the Father of all Prophets and all 3 major ABRAHAMIC religions refer to him as the one that forms the "baseline" for what God wants every believer to be.
TLDR; Dare I say as sacred as specific wording might be to many ppl I think at the end this is just semantics.
8:36
Hey it's me! the comment in the centre
Btw, the rest of your pronunciation in that video was great and in this video you preformed even better.
Great video, Love your channel and keep up with the good work!
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Looking at the story in the vein of the Documentary Hypothesis video: the Bridegroom of Blood story is usually considered as being from the J source, and Joel Baden (following off of Benjamin Bacon) argues that originally in J, Moses leaving Midian (vv. 19-20a) & the Bridegroom of Blood story may have been placed _before_ the Burning Bush, rather than after. Now, this re-arranging doesn't necessarily serve to explain much of the specific details (God's intentions, the circumcision's purpose, "bridegroom of blood"'s meaning, etc), and is still compatible with several of the other given suggestions. However, it does re-contextualize the story as more of a test of Moses by God to see if he is the right person to serve as his prophet in Egypt, rather than God seemingly switching up on Moses after already having given him the job.
I almost considered including this in the video! I agree that the earlier placement of the story makes a lot more sense in the J narrative. I'd love to see more scholars entertain the idea and hear what they think.
I disagree. The story is fine the way it is.
God always chooses people before they are ready. He chose Noah before he had any idea what was going on, he chose Abraham who, while old, was unprepared. He chose David while he was still an unproven youth and Jonah who wanted to do anything except be a prophet.
God chooses, and the people figure it out.
But there are lines that need to be drawn, and God can't have Moses representing the Israelites and setting the events of Passover in motion when his own son is not circumcised. God waits as long as he can, and then he forces Moses, or as it turns out, Zipporah, to act.
Joel Baden?
What an unfortunate name lol
I really love how much you use guns in these videos lol. Moses killing someone ? A gun ? Norse warrior killing a monster ? A Gun. It makes me laugh
The anachronism is the funniest part.
It's a reference to Charlton Heston, he portrayed Moses in The Ten Commandments movie, and was also once the President of the NRA
Orthodox Jewish school graduator here! Very interesting take. Personally when I studied it in school our teacher gave a cool possible explanation to this story. It happens right after God displays Moses his powers (the snake, the leprosy) And gives him the instruction to demonstrate these miracles to the Kartums (idk how to call them in English sorry). For each miracle, Moses experience it first on himself, then learns to control it after commiting a certain action, right? Now this cycle happens again. God tells Moses that he intends to kill The Egyptians first borns, and threatens or intends to kill Moses' own son- but not really, he is teaching him again how to control this power and protect people from it: by bloodletting, just like the Hebrews did later when they painted their walls with blood. There are still many questions regarding this bizarre, fascinating story, but thats just a nice take I remember. BTW looove the bible videos! :) Are you a native Hebrew speaker?
Not a Hebrew speaker at all, which is probably evident from my spelling mistakes, lol.
That interpretation makes a lot of sense. I regret that I didn't mention the possible foreshadowing of the tenth plague.
@@JakeDoubleyoo lol the spelling mistakes make perfect sense, and I didn't see many in your videos at all, that's why I thought you might be native haha. I have so many (too many) takes and connections like that after 12 years of bible studying. If you'll ever need help with finding stuff like that I would be happy to put it all for good use, finally:)
Hi, another native Hebrew speaker here! Don't worry about spelling mistakes, a lot of UA-camrs spell our words backwards (especially חנוכה for some reason). Hebrew is also (to my knowladge) a simple languge, besides not having vowels and writing right to left.@@JakeDoubleyoo
I like this interpretation, it's different from how I read it but I like it.
I think the key to understanding the passage is realizing that it is not Moses, but his son, that God was going to kill. (Many of the important people in the Bible have an ordeal where their son was at risk of being killed - this is the one that happened to Moses).
God usually lets them off the hook, except for David.
Religious scholars have spent countless ho 6:03 urs for millenia trying to make sense out of nonsense.
Seems like a monumental waste of time ... unless it keeps them out of worse mischief.
"He's a stranger in a strange land."
The saying: 😃
The book: 💀
yeahhhhhhhhhhh.....
We don’t speak that name
I don’t need to grog anymore about that
I like the idea of Zipporah delivering this (presumably in context) sick one-liner, then immediately following up with an awkward explanation.
This is really interesting
As an atheist, I love learning about the Bible
It’s such an interesting piece of literature
I think nonreligious people who entirely dimiss the Bible because of its problematic/archaic elements are robbing themselves of what are easily some of the most interesting pieces of literature ever written.
@@JakeDoubleyoo amen.
Shame, wish you the best but hope you let Jesus in your life.
Love you anyway brother
I think you would very much like a channel called The Bible Project. It’s on UA-cam aswell and they have podcasts in which they go deep into the writing of the bible. It’s so interesting!
I only really care about the stuff that have Lucifer and the rest of the sins but yea me to
Me: what's the context?
Jake: BIBLE
Thats biblically accurate
Where are my shoes? *jake* bible
What's the best myth? Jake bible.
I was not expecting to start my morning learning about forced circumcision. good vid 👌
TBH it did make sense in the desert environment. Sand getting under the skin, would be arse.
@@TheRezro What are you doing in the desert, that makes sand go there? 🤨
@@_jpg Don't ask my.
@@_jpgThat hole in the sand was too fine, I couldn't help myself
@@superdude899Just hope you don't find a crawfish hole.
11:15 "This is (Zephora) taking the situation into her own hands"
Yea... that's one way of putting it.
Snip snip stab stab.
HELP I DIDNT EXPECT THIS VID TO BE 12 MINUTES FOR A VID ABOUT 3 MERE VERSES, You are literally good at explaining jake, also i miss your fresh look
0:35 I love how the donkey stretches out when the two sons get on it.
The biblical authors were smoking that burning bush when they wrote all of this.
Which logically wouldn't make sense if they were because this book took sixteen hundred years to write with multiple authors but yet never missing the message or themes of the bible 😊
as opposed to lobotomites with metal sickness flag backgrounds?
@@djashovel you are aware the Bible over time has removed and added texts the original Bible is completely different in various ways from the current Bible
@@djashovel I especially like the parts of the bible where it repeatedly advocates for the mass slaughter of children!
@@Barasaman lol you're angry at colours
I'm not religious at all but very much interested in history and the real background behind the bible stories or any of the myths you cover. Your videos are so enjoyable to watch with the funny animations and great-to-listen-to voice. I am always curious if a new video of yours arrives in my notifications. Thank you for your work!
I recommend The Bible Project. For some good podcasts and videos about the background behind what you read in the bible. It’s very interesting!
The Old Testament needs the same parental warning as Game of Thrones.
The copies of the Tanakh and Old Testament aren't usually accompanied by pictures.
@@videogollumer I had a Children’s Bible with illustrations. It was pretty graphic! 🤣
@@taotaostrong If it was just blood, that's to be expected. Blood plays a key role in the Bible.
@@videogollumer please don’t take my comment too seriously. Enjoy your day.
@@videogollumer So you would be ok with any other book or peice of erotica being given freely to children without illustrations even if said texts included rape, blooding genitalia, and bizarre religious rituals?
When i was reading this part i was so confused and caught off guard it was so random
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6:50 - Little correction-
The case of a person who'd murdered and is forgiven if he lives in a city of refuge until the death of the high priest is not actually that similar to Moses's case because you can only be forgiven for your murder if it was an accident (Beshogeg). In the case of Moses killing the egyptian man was intentional, thus the rule wouldn't apply here
Propp acknowledges that by the technical word of the law Moses probably wouldn't be considered an accidental murderer:
"Is Moses the manslayer entitled to asylum? Today he might get off with a conviction of second-degree murder, inasmuch as the violence was basically impromptu. Admittedly, the laws of refuge do not protect the second-degree murderer; and Moses did peer this way and that, implying brief premeditation. Nevertheless, he did not really "lie in wait" (Ex. 21:13; Num. 35:20). His was essentially a crime of passion. While an Israelite legist might not grant Moses asylum, an Israelite storyteller could perhaps be more lenient."
@@JakeDoubleyoo Interesting. I just know that the definition of accidental murder in the bible refers mostly to if you dropped your axe on someone, whereas this case is not as simple
I've gotta hand it to you, dude! From what I'm seeing, your research is pretty spot on! And you put it into easy-to-understand phrasing, which makes a serious difference! Good job, bro! keep rocking it!
I love how the law that you can get out of town to avoid prosecution is like foreshadowing for Jesus. We sin, get sent out of Eden and we can’t go back until the high king (Jesus) dies. Crazy stuff
Very good, as always!
Thank you!
I love your videos!
LOVE these animations!
Holy shit, I just started reading the bible and got to that passage literally the day before this came out, and I had no idea what it was talking about.
Wait until you get to revelation
This section was one of the first of MANY passages I read while growing up, when I was a good faithful religious household child, that made me think "well this is just silly ain't it". Exodus is crazy bazar.
Your analysis is the best one of all the ones, tbh.
The best context I've ever heard for the use of "God hardened his heart" In the Bible is to think of it like this: God is the sun and the hearts of men are made of either wax or clay. When the sun touches wax It melts and becomes malleable, but when it touches clay it becomes hard and unworkable. In the wider context of Exodus this does kind of make sense because Even after seeing the power of God, the Pharaoh doesn't immediately Acquiesce to the entirety of Noah's demands reasoning that the aim of the Israelites could be to cause harm to Egypt. So in that sense his heart was hardened by suspicion of God's intentions rather than God intentionally making him be difficult. No idea if this is the best way to look at it, but It does seem to fit as the only way to make hardened clay workable again is to destroy it and start over.
Where did you hear the wax vs hard clay analogy? Ive never heard it anywhere, either in history of religion things or in general.
Sounds apologist to me tbh
That doesn’t make sense because the original Hebrew doesn’t literally say “harden”, that’s just the English word they chose to represent god making the pharaoh against the idea of letting the people go.
I love how your style has evolved over time and how much better the quality of your animations is now
Wow! I can feel myself getting Holier-Than-Thou with this one
Adam you’re lucky that wasn’t you
How can you get holier than thou by reading history
You're gonna need it with how unholy the exterminations made you be
Wouldn’t it be holier-than-thee?
That sounds like something you would see in an episode of a series about the exodus that the author add to make the story and characters make more sense
God so gangster with the Glock. Good vid, I look forward to your next animation development.
I love this episode, very informative
Is there a possibility that at one point there were multiple gods in the story that were later collapsed into a single one? That would explain the confusing decision of recruiting Moses then immediately turning on him. Perhaps it could also explain how this Yahweh considers only the Israelites to be his people and not the Egyptians as well
Yes, many scholars believe the Torah contains vestiges of earlier polytheistic tradition. Some even argue that the Israelites were still polytheistic at the time the Torah was compiled (personally I don't know if I'd go *that* far).
@@JakeDoubleyoo very interesting!
Considering the time period how they recorded time and how we do it might not be the same so 80 years to them might not be 80 years to us
True. They had basically *just* developed calendars, and the Egyptian one was divided into a trio of 120 day seasons - it's entirely possible that what's translated as "years" was "seasons" and ol' Mo was only like late 20's.
6:16
you made a mistake in hebrew
"bridegroom" in hebrew is חתן (Hatan) with the letter final nun
you wrote חתו (Hato) with the letter vav which mean "his fear"
Jake got a character design update to match his art style! Instead of whites in the eyes, he has colored wide dots.
11:02 why was that so well animated
Damn your animation is getting really good.
I know it was just your personal opinion that made you up with this story but when I think about it, it makes so much sense! Honestly thank you for your hot take!
Neat detail! The first bunch of plagues, it reads that pharaoh had hardened his heart on his own, then later it becomes God being the one doing it. Which makes it look like God gave him a chance to let them go on his own, then after denying Moses, was railroaded until the last plague
This really helped with deconstructing and leaving behind the faith. The whole 'hardening the Pharaoh's heart' was so damn problematic when I read the story for myself, like... couldn't God just have softened the heart of the pharaoh instead? And NOT kill thousands of innocent bystanders that had nothing to do with the whole situation?
I like how Jake made a 16 minutes video about a whole book and then this video which literally only talks about 3 verses was 13 minutes
6:40 that doesnt make much sense because that law only applies to accidental murder + your exile should be in a few select cities. Even if we ignore the second condition since they werent in the region of future israel, the biggest problem is simply that the murder was intentional. Imo the hypothesis that makes more sense is the one with the circumcision delay, as it would explain God's seemingly sudden anger and why Zipporah's action appeased him
This video is well made as always
I love your channel so much. You put in a lot of work into making solid content ❤
Don't know if this will help in later videos, but a great deal of Bible stories follow the Kiastic trope where the beginning and the end comment on each other with the middle being the more important part.
I unapologetically love this take on it. I always sort of gloss over that part of exodus, and never really think to deep into Moses’ motivations.
Your interpretation honestly seems the most human. I like it
YESS!! I was hoping for more of these
The using word "YA-HUH" at 10:17 was quite smart because literally in that moment G*d reveal His name as YHWH
love these vids
Another great video
I just found you and I find your contact extremely entertainand and I will love more ❤
Excellent video! Very eloquently and poetically explained!
I really liked your interpretation!
Love this stuff! ❤️🔥
The "Layman's Hot Take" is pretty similar to a presentation I gave in college (undergrad, so don't take it too seriously, *I am an idiot* ). There, I suggested that Moses's name, traditionally derived from Hebrew _moshe_ or "to draw out" could, according to some scholars, also be derived from Egyptian _mesu_ or "child/son" (like in the name Thutmose, "child of Thoth", just without a theophoric element). The possibility of it being either/or (possibly both for some narrative irony) fueled my thesis of Moses living his whole life within liminal spaces, first between Hebrew and Egyptian as you pointed out, and then between mortal and divine following the exodus out of Egypt. It might not necessarily have been intentional, either by the original authors of Exodus and Numbers, or even by their redactors, but I had fun thinking about it back then. I wasn't really going at it from a theological, faith-based, or even scholarly angle, but from a simple storytelling perspective.
Interpreting his name as a symbol of his split identity is honestly brilliant.
Okay... Now I'm curious to see how it's written in my grandma's bible, I don't remember this part at all. 😅
Great job, though!
your take on those passages are the kind of thing you'd hear a rabbi say during a torah service, you're honestly thinking like one!
It feels valuable to point out that Zipporah is quoted as saying "surely you are a bloody husband unto me" in the KJV. I've also heard it explained that 1) God hardening Pharaoh's heart was not an active decision by God, but rather it means the thought of God getting what he wants makes Pharaoh angry. Last note, to my understanding God attempts to kill Moses because having an uncircumcised child would make him unacceptable to the Israelites and incapable of leading them. This is a "scared straight" tactic, as God would have known that Zipporah would put the pieces together, and/or God getting ready to start the entire liberation plan over with someone else. I did enjoy you adding more considerations to why their son wasn't circumcised practically speaking.
This this! I've been wondering about this passage for 3 years and after 3 years I finally get an explanation 😅
I actually like your interpretation the best
I really like the new style of animation its so much skinnier and I also like the part where you actually add movement to Moses when he's stirring something very nice
Hahahaha Gotta love Jake’s Films, And Dont mean to make you feel old But I still remember Enjoying your videos Used in Our History class (Our highschool Teacher also likes the way you Yeach History too) back in Early highschool, And now that I'm almost done with college, Still love them
Hi, if you want to explain more weird rituals in other religions, you can cover the Ashvamedha/ the horse sacrifice in the Vedic tradition. Trust me, it gets VERY weird.
That burning bush must’ve been GOOD STUFF for all this to happen after it
4:02 I somehow willnt ever stop bein surprised when i see names like Rabbi José; its just not the kind of name one usually thinks of when imaginin a Jewish person, but here this Rabbi José bein reffed is at least a century ago from us today, likely longer still. Hispanic Jews are totes a thing and have been historically, same with Jews of all sorts of ppl groups. Same with prty much all other religions too; but still our brainsve the stereotype of a Jewish person lookin a lot more like Rabbi Rashi is depicted
They were indeed scattered all over the World.
Zipporah is a descendant of Abraham which God said to circumcise his son. Genesis 21:4.
Reason why she carries that commandment.
I can see why that bit was left out of Prince of Egypt.
bro, i speak Hebrew and i have the bible in Hebrew and i read it and it DOES NOT make sense
the end felt like reinventing church like ‘heres my interpretation i’ll tell to this large crowd and you can all comment and discuss after”
The active form of the verb when God is hardening the heart of the pharaoh could just mean he let his heart be hardened, not that he actively hardened it. This is how many other sentences are translated.
I appreciate that you took the time to understand this passage instead of just mocking/or being disgusted
(but of course, it ain't wrong to call this one weird imo ... 'cuz it is.)
These mysteries and ambiguity was caused by how the book was composed, by reconciling multiple sources, according to the documentary hypothesis:
J: Yahwist (10th-9th century BCE)[1][2]
E: Elohist (9th century BCE)[1]
Dtr1: early (7th century BCE) Deuteronomist historian
Dtr2: later (6th century BCE) Deuteronomist historian
P*: Priestly (6th-5th century BCE)[3][2]
D†: Deuteronomist
R: redactor
Same as how the gospels have some different details, but they were not coalesced into one gospel.
Thank you for elaborating on bloody foreskin, Dubs. Exactly what I was looking for. 💯 ❤
11:09 Eliazer: what about me
The entire holey bible is sick AF! Love your videos!
Oh man please do more biblical videos, these are amazing
Hello, a religious (Orthodox) Jew here. Just wanted to say, regarding your explanation (and maybe this passage in general, IDK): an interesting fact is that in the biblical context, the Midianites are also descended from Abraham - something I don't remember being referred to by commentators on this. Not sure it matters that much, considering historical evidence of circumcision being generally practiced in the area, but when you take the perspective of it being a part of Moses' theoretical identity struggle... Maybe Zipporah had traditions that were related to those of the Israelites, maybe that was a part of her motive there. IDK.
I might be a part of a very conservative religious group, but trying to understand the Bible in your own terms is still something I find interesting. Though there was a huge disagreement about it not too long ago...
To an outsider like me, the whole book of Exodus is super bizarre.
@@SeattleDinghyer Sure, I suppose that makes sense, but it doesn't seem related to my comment? The video itself notes how weird this passage is, but that's not exactly what I'm talking about here at all, so it seems to come out of nowhere.
This is like a Dan McClellan TikTok but animated. Love it!
I love Dan McClellan's videos!
Just remember that Dan McClellan is to scholarship as the Harlem Globetrotters are to basketball
I would argue that you are definitely a Bible scholar. Your videos are great. Keep up the good work. :)
6:32 is this loss?
Your theory makes so much sense, that it's actually very unlikely to be right. The odd and esoteric reasons of the people from biblical times is nearly incomprehensible to us
To be clear, I'm pretty convinced this story originally reflected some obscure tradition that later Israelites forgot about. But openly speculating on that would require a level of expertise on the subject that I don't have.
So my interpretation in this video is based on the story as it now exists in the Torah.
It's no surprise then that my interpretation of the theme is largely based on Carmen Imes', who doesn't seem to consider things like source criticism in her analyses.
Uhh for 4:26 It’s about the whole covenant thing with the Israelites that people in Abraham’s descendants have to be circumcised that could be a reason God tried to kill him his son wasn’t circumcised and didn’t want Moses to be a hypocrite idk I just watched the got questions ministries videos and it makes some sort of sense?
2:12 so I went to my scriptures (for context I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ) and the notes said that this passage has covenant ties. Then there is a direction to the topical guide for the word circumcision in the Bible and Book of Mormon saying “Circumcision was not peculiar to Israel. It was practiced in Egypt and also by nations with whom Israel had not come in contact. The significance of circumcision was that it was the manifest token of the covenant that the Lord had made with Abraham and his seed.“ so that could help a bit? I haven’t studied exodus yet lol
@0:51 Its actually not that God literally hardens the Pharoah's heart, its the idea of God, someone more powerful and more important then him, pissing the Pharoah off so much that he refuses to do as God commands. At least that is how the few times I was at church explained it to me, and I thought it made more sense then God pulling an "I want the Hebrews to go free... But I also want to have the Egyptians suffer a lot" stunt.
I mean, wouldn't you if someone was messing with your kids?
3:16 - I never got this when I read it. I don’t think we covered much of the Old Testament in Sunday School. .. which ultimately because Saturday school. 🤷♂️
Jake is a must😊
Zipporah being badass to react quickly making the solution as circumcision. The circumcise animation cracks me up 😭😭😭😭
This story is a little less crazy sounding when we remember the entire point of the Old Testament: Examples of the shedding of blood for the remission of sin, as God’s plan for redemption unfolds, culminating in his taking on the form of man, in Jesus, to take the punishment for sin, death, upon himself.
Love your videos
Your interpretation is as good as any. I like the idea of identity conflict. I'm also glad my wife has different means if persuasion.
"Bridegroom of Blood" Sounds like the title of a horror movie about a guy who murders multiple wives.