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Spartan doesn't know anything 🤣 Science fiction, popularly shortened as sci-fi, is a genre of fiction that creatively depicts real or imaginary science and technology as part of its plot, setting, or theme. The fiction part of science fiction means, of course, that it's a fictional story-not a real-life account
Paul Muad'dib Atreides be like: "I see a holy war spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire. A warrior religion that waves the Atreides banner in my father's name. Fanatical legions worshiping at the shrine of my father's skull. A WAR IN MY NAME!"
I’ve seen Hans 4 times and it’s my fav piece. Usually 2nd to last in his concerts, he walked out in London playing the guitar to it after being absent all night & the place erupted.
I think the "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" from The Dark Knight, also by Zimmer, is even better than Time. Or the variant "The Dark Knight Trilogy Medley" from his "Live in Prague" concert.
There is just enough evidence scattered across the movie to assume either. But yes, the belief that he has forgiven himself is the thematic conclusion of the movie. The theories are just for the fans to play with.
@@thomasshelton5052 I agree, but to be honest, I can say that for every Nolan movie. I appreciated every movie of his more on subaequent viewings than on the first viewing (apart from Following)
@@brysonfreeman7226I would go for something like The Prestige or Memento first, it just feels like Oppenheimer is what his entire filmography has been building towards, so I'd say experiencing some of the earlier ones before makes a bit more sense
21:50 The way I interpret it, Mal was so "evil" in the dreams because Cobb felt such guilt (which he explained towards the end). He was punishing himself through his projections of his wife, because he felt he deserved to be punished... Very sad but also really good writing.
The French song is Edith Piaf's "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien". Marion Cotillard played her played her in La Vie En Rose (2007). Won an Oscar for her performance.
Cobb's totem is his ring (when he wears it, he is dreaming, when not, he is awake). The top was Mal's totema but Cobb uses it as well (when it spins incessantly it is a dream, as it defies physical laws, while when it spins for a while and then falls, it is reality).
His ring is a symbol of his guilt. It's in part what grounded him to be he real world. In the end he has that weight lifted and doesn't have his ring, which makes the spinning even more ambigious because as a dreamer hes really really lost without it. He could be in the real world. Or he could finally be at peace in this dream
The ring disappearing at the end is because Cobb's finally let go of Mal and the ring was the symbol of his continued connection to her. Period. A lot of people want to go into all these side theories about it being his "real" totem, and that somehow, somewhere in the movie there's an answer for us to find confirming or denying that he's in a dream at the end. There isn't. According to Christopher Nolan himself -- a much bigger and better expert on his movie than any ten randos on the internet -- anyone who's looking for the "real" answer missed the entire point of the ending that he intended. When asked about the ending in an interview on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, Nolan said: "I went through a phase where I was asked that a lot. I think it was [producer] Emma Thomas who pointed out the correct answer, which is Leo’s character…the point of the shot is the character doesn’t care at that point." In an interview with Wired, Nolan added, "There is a nihilistic view of that ending, right? But also, he’s moved on and is with his kids. The ambiguity is not an emotional ambiguity. It’s an intellectual one for the audience." Whether or not Cobb’s top keeps spinning or falls on the table has no effect on the emotional conclusion of "Inception," which for Nolan is where the heart of the story is. Cobb has made it home to his kids. The character’s emotional journey is complete, thus he doesn’t even care to check if his top spins or falls. Wherever he is at the end, he's made his peace and accepted it as his "reality." I've seen some people point to an interview with Michael Caine where he says that Nolan told him before filming that any scene Cobb is in with Caine's character takes place in the real world, which would mean that the end was in the real world because Caine's character was there to greet Cobb. On the other hand, most people don't realize that directors tell actors whatever they think they need to tell them to get the performance they want in the scene and Nolan has never confirmed Caine's story. So, y'know, still no real answer there. It's possible that, under the hood, that's what Nolan intended to be the "real" answer, but there are no answers in the film itself. If anything, going by what's actually on the screen in that last scene, I'd argue that it *is* still a dream because Cobb's kids are in the exact same position, doing the exact same thing as the last time he saw them and that's a little weird and dream-like. On the other hand, that could just be Nolan incepting the doubt into our minds to keep the ending from being comfortably conclusive. Either way, the wedding ring thing is a fan theory that isn't based on anything other than their own interpretation of his ring being on or off, and which misses the simpler, more elegant answer that ties into the emotional core of the film: Cobb has let go of Mal and thus the ring is no longer projected onto his finger. He's moved on. The good news about an ambiguous ending, though, is that you can decide for yourself whether the end was a dream or not. Just don't fall for the internet chatter that tells you there's an actual correct answer, because there's not.
Science-fiction is a pretty broad term and can contain any fiction where science plays a big part. So this could be considered science-fiction since there is science involved in the dream entering stuff, but you can count it as fantasy as well. Science-fiction isn't only about space though, it's just that often science-fiction is set in the future where space travel is assumed to be more common.
If I'm not mistaken, this was Tom Hardy's real breakthrough movie I think! Such a masterpiece. Nolan's three greats! Interstellar, Inception and Prestige! 😤😤
Sci-Fi genre isn’t confined to space. It’s anything science seeks to explain. The human brain / dreams are still very mysterious- science hasn’t been able to explain many things so this movie falls under “Sci-Fi intellectual thriller”.
It’s absolutely science fiction. Science fiction is any fictional story that has to do with technological advancement and humanity’s relationship to it. The whole concept of the dream sharing technology is something that we obviously don’t have in real life. There’s a minor line from Arthur where he mentions that the military developed it to train soldiers. This is one of my favorite films ever and I think I’ve seen it over 10 times at this point. I was a sophomore in high school when it came out and as someone who mainly watched superhero movies and stuff like Transformers, it changed my perspective on the types of stories that films are capable of telling.
In the end, he is in reality. 1. His real totum is his wedding ring, as the top was his wife's totum and you are told you are never supposed to share your totum's identifier for reality. In the dream he is wearing his wedding ring, because he is still married to his wife's image in his dream, but in reality he is not. In the end he is not wearing the ring. 2. Michael Caine literally said that Nolan told him any scene with him is reality , and he is in the end scene.
Ok, but how can we explain that the image of him seeing his kids at the end is the same image of them when he had to flee? And that was also the image he had of them while he was dreaming the whole movie.
Actually I don't think he's back in reality because besides the wedding ring the REAL totem is the children. When he returns they're literally in the exact same position as in his last memory of them. The weather is the same, the garden looks the same and most importantly, they didn't age a day. He was probably gone for at least a year if not more and at that age you can even see a huge difference between months. And that's not something Nolan would ever miss. It's not a mistake.
If you remember: The totem only works for the person who made it. Cobb did not make the spinning top, Mal did. He simply took it after she died. Ergo, whether the top at the end drops or not (though considering the sound very much made it apparent it was losing speed), doesn't really matter as it's not his totem. But it also doesn't matter to him anymore anyway, as he sees his children's faces for the first time and doesn't even look at the spinning top anymore. It's argued online that Cobb's totem is his wedding ring, due to him having it off in certain scenes and on in others where he's in a dream. Others have argued that any time you see Michael Caine's character, that that's reality as well, and he was in the last scene.
Lmao snake move. Everyone’s reaction was the same. But it was brilliant. Nolan basically performs Inception on the audience with that stunt at the end, planting an idea that “is this still a dream”
Not to disparage Dark at all, but I'm seriously at a loss as to how people can recommend it. I thought the first season was great, I'd probably give it a 9/10, but that's only upon my initial watch. After seeing how the story concludes, I feel like the entire series suffered from LOST syndrome where the writer's didn't have an actual goal or end-game in mind and just wrote themselves into a corner.
@@fredwin Dark is quite literally the opposite of what you just explained. A 3 season masterpiece which was meticulously planned from the beginning. S1: 9/10 S2: 9.5/10 S3: 9/10
Sorry that you had to deal with the bits of ptsd that hit you during this film, Pudgey. I'm glad you were still able to enjoy the film despite that. Both of your reactions were very enjoyable, and yeah I get really sentimental at the end of the film too. 💙
So happy you guys got to experience this masterpiece and enjoyed it! I was on the edge of my seat (literally) when watching this in theaters for the first time. One of my favorite things about this movie is how every member of Cobb's team has a role to play, so you root for every one of them. And then, at the end, the movie is a personal story (Cobb's journey to forgiveness, and Fischer's own journey).
There are so many levels to this, much like the dreams. 1) Cobb’s totem is his wedding ring, he’s only wearing it in his dreams - the end is real. 2) He walks away from Mol’s totem at the end because he’s happy here and doesn’t care if it’s real. 3) Ariadne incepted the idea in Cobb that he could forgive himself for Mol’s death, he didn’t intend for her to die, and he could move on. Wild shit!
Fun fact Christopher Nolan usually works with his brother Jonathan who is a filmmaker and screenwriter as well. Interstellar, Prestige, Batman trilogy and a lot of TV shows were writen by him
@@steffeni.6009 YES PLEASE !!!! Person of Interest is truly one of the best TV series I've seen ! Gosh, I still rewatch some episodes bcoz of how fun it was !
Inception is a metaphor for film-making. The more you break immersion with bad writing, the more the audience knows they are watching fiction and become hostile towards it.
There are intentional oddities inserted in both reality and memories to question the entire movie; the closing walls in the chase scene and Mal jumping off from the opposite hotelroom
The walls didn't close, they just weren't built with respect to each other. You find architecture like that _all the time_ in less-regulated regions, or with old architecture that predates and was excempted from the regulations. So perhaps that _was_ meant to evoke that sense on a rewatch/reflection, but there's nothing particularly unusual about it either.
It’s crazy how much the culture lambasted this film for being too complex to understand and yet here in watching you two see EVERYTHING. For a complex film it lays its world building out real well for a new audience.
Do you realize that Fischer is not the only one to have inception done on him in the movie? Cobb is also the subject on an inception. The idea implanted in him is he must forgive himself and let go of Mal. It's actually Michael Caine's character who has the idea. That's why he accepted to introduce Ariadne to Cobb. In parallel, he told Ariadne what she had to do. That's why she wanted so much to discover what Cobb was hiding, why she insisted to go with them in the dreams. It was also her idea to go to the limbos because she knew they had to go that deep for the inception to work. And in the end, she created the conditions for the inception but it was Cobb himself who implanted the idea to let Mal go in his own subconscious. It is also possible Arthur was aware of what she was doing but I'm not sure of that...
Cobb's real totem is the wedding ring. In a dream, he always wears it on his finger, but in reality he carries it in his pocket. The ring allows him to determine if he is in someone else's dream. Nothing is known about its properties. A standard totem will allow you to determine whether a person is in someone else's dream (that's why no one tells each other about secret properties). A standard totem is not able to indicate whether a person is in his own dream. This is what Cobb fears most - getting lost in his dream, no longer distinguishing between reality. When people around them see a top, intuitively in their dreams they will make it fall, recreating the obvious properties of the object. However, in Cobb’s dream the top will not fall, because it is he who will create reality and will be able to “keep” it in motion. Once again, if this sounds confusing... 😅The ring for Cobb works like a standard totem and shows if he is in someone else's dream. And the top shows whether Cobb is in his personal dream.
It just astonishes me that someone could come up with a story this deep and complex and entertaining at the same time. I hope you watch the Prestige next. Another amazing Nolan movie.
Not quite. The team's first names' initials do spell "dreamy" (you forgot Yusuf), but there's a leftover second A (Ariadne/Arthur). I assume you got your S from Saito, but his first name is never given, as far as I can tell.
Michael Caine told Christopher Nolan that he was a bit confused about the story and what was real and what wasn't. Nolan replied: if you are in a scene, this is reality. Michael Caine is there to welcome Di Caprio at the airport at the end, so feel free to believe Nolan.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrongnope, that’s an invalid argument. That's called the fallacy of denying the antecedent, a logical fallacy where it's assumed that if a condition isn't met, then the consequence is also negated, which isn't necessarily true. “If A, then B” does NOT mean “If Not A, then Not B”
@CottageCheeseGuy you still dont make any sense man. He didn't say those scenes were only reality, he said the scenes "WITH" Caine were. Get some better reading comprehension bud, put some respect on the English language if you're gonna talk down on others.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong That's a logical fallacy. All apples are fruit, that doesn't mean that everything that ISN'T' an apple also ISN'T a fruit. An orange is also a fruit, despite not being an apple. By the same logic, if all scenes with Michael Caine are real life, that doesn't mean that scenes WITHOUT Michael Caine are necessarily not real life. The chase in Mombasa, for example, doesn't have Michael Caine, but indisputably takes place in real life.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong You are incorrect, whether it's apparent to you or not. Caine being in "reality" scenes does not also automatically mean that all scenes without Caine aren't reality.
I really get what Spartan is talking about when it comes to dreams that feel real. It only happened to me once, I dreamed of my crush in high school and how we were together and all. I felt so sad when I woke up. It was the most realistic dream I ever had. I remember writing everything down as soon as I realized I was awake as to make sure not to forget it. Never felt that way again, but I did do the exact same thing, lying on the bed and try to reconnect with the dream. Never happened, but it was a really nice feeling while it lasted.
IKR ?! I recently had such a dream and for that whole week, whenever I remember that experience I would automatically smile, but when I realize again that it would never happen, I get emotional ;( ... Now I just have the bits and pieces of 'memories' of that beautiful dream !
Your reaction to this was a lot more personal, and I learned a lot more about you both than almost all your other reactions. Can't wait for The Prestige.
The Prestige, Memento, Tenet, all amazing Nolan films. The Prestige was the first film of his I saw and it’s still in my top favorite movies of all time. Memento was one I actually watched for the first time earlier this year, and I absolutely loved it. A lot of people seem to consider Tenet as the most confusing/complicated, but again, I love it. Nolan just doesn’t miss.
Dunkirk is underrated too, it was the most suspense I've ever felt in a movie theater, it evoked emotions no other movie ever before or since did for me. When me and my mom left the theater we were like, this was incredible, we don't want to watch that ever again or at least for a very very long time.
So glad you two watched this incredible movie. This is one of the best movies ever. In the end it’s a love story about Cobb & Mal that happens to have great action, philosophy, & dreams vs reality concepts. Hans Zimmer’s soundtrack is utterly amazing too. The music is moving & emotional. The song played at the end, “Time” is one of the best soundtrack songs ever.
the crazy part about the end when he goes to save old man saito is they really had a bond in that layer of dream. yet in the real world they are pretty much just work acquaintances. its just like when one has their own emotional dream and it feels like u get that super intimate emotion to that projection in your mind then wake up and its nothing.
Nolan at his best here...again...If you think this ending is scary..watch Oppenheimer..thats the single best dialogue and the scariest ending in movie history....Also here..the great Ken Watanabe..one of the greatest Japanese Actors and super underrated..he rocked literally every role he ever did..Also I remember in the cinema when it ended half the cinema jumped up and screamed :"Fuuuuuu*** you Noooolannnnn"
I can’t ever remember my dreams after I wake up except a single one from when I was young that I can remember everything and every feeling like it was real. It really trips me out sometimes
I know what the director said about the ending but the fact that the only time you are able to see the kids faces is at the end I feel he is awake. Great movie none the less.
I had this one dream where I realised that I was dreaming but didn't immediately wake up and then I literally remember myself thinking inside the dream "oh I'm dreaming, I can do whatever I want". Don't remember much after that. It's interesting because usually we don't realise we are dreaming or when we start to arrive to that point it's when we are about the wake up and never actually get to the point of realising.
I also remember having such dreams on occasions. When it happened I started to explore the area I was in, and I even was able to levitate myself (i.e. fly) to other places in the dreamworld. It's called "lucid dreaming", and allegedly can even be trained for having more control over it. Usually the dream protects the sleep, but when you get aware of it, most people immediately wake up. But when you manage to stay asleep after noticing it, you can become the Neo in your own Matrix.
I have had this a few times too! But it has been a long time since last time. The first time it happened, I didn't know how to change the dream. I ended up jumping out a window, immediately waking up... After that, I realized that change in my dreams is often correlated with motion, so if I keep walking the dream will change. Next time I had a lucid dream, I imagined a situation I wanted to experience, and started walking. Quite soon the dream indeed changed to what I wanted, it was really cool!
It's Sci-Fi heist movie, I'd say. SF is not exclusively in space. Some would actually argue Star Wars, which happens in space, is more fantasy rather than SF.
1:13:17 Well, I wouldn't say _realized_ . Fischer was _manipulated_ into thinking his father wasn't disappointed in him, but yeah he's probably happier now believing that.
The soundtrack for this film is one of my favorites that I've ever experienced in theaters. Nothing like that resonant dissonance through a dolby sound system to underscore existential dread 😂🧡
Very underrated aspect is how Cobb builds trust with Fischer in the plane with the wallet. I think this is partly why Fischer trusts him in the second level and during the ending scene he probably thinks he just put this man's face on his security projection or something.
I think the greatest strength of this film is it has such a complicated and creative concept but it manages to teach you all the rules throughout. Even though at first it seems really confusing they do a great job of making you understand it. Compare this to Tenet, which has just as an amazing concept but its mechanics and story is so confusing and hard to follow that they literally tell you not to try and understand it in the movie!
Another great one guys! Couple of things, I know you guys have a laugh and banter but I appreciated a lot of the chat at the end like when discussing who'd be the Mal and Spartan refrained from getting too personal. And I empathise with Pudgey, I got hit by a car a few years back and its the sounds that really get me. The "do you need to pause?" Was so cool to hear the respect and care there. Anyway, thanks guys and I think you'd really like The Prestige- another trippy Nolan movie starring Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman as rival stage magicians.
it didn't drop because Nolan was reminding 'we' the audience to wake up and get back to reality... Cobb doesn't need it anymore, he saw his children, he wasn't looking back, he chose his reality!
My take: Cobb was the target all along, not Fischer. Ariadne was the extractor, which is why she took so easily to manipulating and creating dream reality, and why it was her idea to go another level to complete the mission (also why she was so damn nosy in Cobb's mind, she was actually doing intelligence gathering). Cobb had to be set up to go on this mission so that Ariadne would implant the idea that Mal's death wasn't his fault.
Interesting points in the outro. It as me wondering what is the difference in memories. A memory of an event in reality or a memory of a dream. Memory is memory. It doesn't make either less or more valid. I've been watching you two for a long time now. Pudgy's laugh at 1:05:05 is the best yet.
You haven't watched this movie until you watched it atleast 50 times. You're gonna catch several new things every time you watch it. I've deadass seen this movie over a 1000 times. Favorite movie ever.
His totem was his ring, not the spinning top. A lot of people get that wrong. The spinning top is her totem. It was only shown as a sign that he let her go.
"That is a snake move!" Yes, and this was a reason for a lot of fights back then 🤣🤣🤣 Some people saying it was a dream, some saying it wasn't... This movie is a whole lifetime experience, unbelievable.
My favourite Nolan movies in reverse order (last is first): 10: Dark knight rises 9: Tenet 8: Dunkirk 7: Batman Begins 6: Momento 5: Inception 4: Prestige 3: Oppenheimer 2: Dark knight 1: Interstellar
If you remember the spinning top totem is Mal’s not Cobb’s. His real totem I believe is his wedding ring. He wears it in the dream sequences but not in reality. However in the final sequences from waking up in the plane through the ending, they deliberately don’t show his ring hand. 😂
This era of movies was really the last of the greats.. Like we get a good movie perhaps once a year now, back in 2000-2012 we had so many amazing films.
Inception is one the greatest movies. Not just great. There are many great movies, that I love. But Inception is a unique and interesting concept. It's not a space film, or a western film, or an adventure film or something like that, although there are good of those. It just brings in a concept that is very special and unique, something you don't experience every day. Whoever wrote the script and had the idea of the movie, is a genius.
It’s very impressive Nolan squeezed this film in-between Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises. Then 2 years after, released Interstellar. He’s one of our best.
Loved the candid reactions/discussions you two have! Glad you enjoyed the movie so much, it is a yearly must watch for me, you will appreciate details in a 2nd watch through 😊
Mind Splode! I love the way Nolan wrote this film, very smart the way he uses a lot of what we all know from our dreams to make a very convincing Sci Fi.
1:06:52 That's actually such a good idea having sweets as your totem. At least it would work for me because the times when I dream I'm eating sweets they always taste really strange, even though they look real😄
There's a fan theory that Cobb's wedding ring is his dream totem, but that's based on a fundamental misunderstanding combining with people making things more complicated than they need to be. The totem has to be an object that the dreamer is intimately familiar with but no one else is (so no "architect" can counterfeit it in a dream). People jump to the conclusion that, since the top was Mal's totem, it can't be Cobb's, but that's wrong. Now that Mal is dead, it _can_ be Cobb's, and how he uses it throughout the film shows you that he has indeed taken it as his own. His wedding ring (and whether or not he's wearing it) is simply an indication of his self-image and state of mind.
Loved your reaction to this movie as well as your insights. Pudgey: I am sorry this movie gave you some ptsd, and props for not backing down. Your laughter is amazing and made my day.
Here's my take, doesn't matter if the top drops, if Cobb is awake then he gets to see his kids grow up. If it doesn't he's still in Limbo and gets to see his kids grow up and that will have become his reality now, and to paraphrase the old man in the basement on Mombasa, "who are we to say otherwise?" This film, like the dreams in the narrative is layered. On the first layer it's a heist film where a team of specialists is put together, only they are leaving something rather than stealing something. On the next layer Ariadne, named after the Greek princess who gave Theseus the clue he needed to escape the Labyrinth of the minotaur, does the same for Cobb, helping him forgive himself for his Unwitting role in his wife's death. I think she was hired by Michael Caine's character to perform Inception on Cobb. Some say Cobb's wedding ring is his totem since he only has it on in the dream but I think it's a representation of his guilt, so when he does not have it at the end it represents him letting his guilt over Mal go. Finally, this film hints that every film we watch is a sort of dream we share with everyone who sees that film (note how the kick plays at the end, to wake us from the dream that is Inception).
Your reaction to this was so fun! Seeing you guys connect things throughout the movie was really cool. I remember seeing it opening night in theaters and all the hype for the movie at the time. It was all anyone could talk about. I think I saw it twice in theaters.
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This was such a trippy and yet fun story!
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I think it all wasnt real. So many clues if you watch a second time. Alfred say its a fantasy
well, there is another movie that will make you question your reality. It was 11 years before the Inception. Little indie movie called - Matrix.
Spartan doesn't know anything 🤣
Science fiction, popularly shortened as sci-fi, is a genre of fiction that creatively depicts real or imaginary science and technology as part of its plot, setting, or theme. The fiction part of science fiction means, of course, that it's a fictional story-not a real-life account
@@hint1k they mentioned Matrix in the discussion... So I doubt they haven't seen it
Guys, there is an underrated movie called The Coma that I know you would love if you loved this movie.
Nolan’s “The Prestige” (2006) is EXCELLENT storytelling.
That is my favorite Nolan film. Bale and Jackman are great.
It's very underrated, and an underseen Nolan movie too
I think The Prestige is more interesting on rewatch than interstellar or inception …
Came here to recommend this film. Must see if you are on a Nolan train ride, you just have to see The Prestige.
Yeah, I love Inception but I think The Prestige is even better.
them simultaneously going "SNAKE" at the end lol
i loved that!
I wish I didn't see this comment before the end 😂
If I didn't already know they were Aussies, that would have been the giveaway
“You mustn’t be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling” best line in the movie ❤
Paul Muad'dib Atreides be like: "I see a holy war spreading across the universe like unquenchable fire. A warrior religion that waves the Atreides banner in my father's name. Fanatical legions worshiping at the shrine of my father's skull. A WAR IN MY NAME!"
@@patrikneperfekta7575 Non sequitur much?
@@bigdream_dreambig Paul Atreides dreamt a little bigger.
In my head cannon, Arthur and Eames are an ex-couple.
Hans zimmer's track "Time", that plays is the last 5 minutes, is one pf the best tracks ever composed. A story by its own it's told at that song
Totally agree I listen to it all the time. It’s so powerful & moving it can bring you to tears
YES!
I’ve seen Hans 4 times and it’s my fav piece. Usually 2nd to last in his concerts, he walked out in London playing the guitar to it after being absent all night & the place erupted.
And it sounds even cooler when it's remixed with Party Rock Anthem.
I think the "Like a Dog Chasing Cars" from The Dark Knight, also by Zimmer, is even better than Time. Or the variant "The Dark Knight Trilogy Medley" from his "Live in Prague" concert.
I always thought the point of the ending is that it doesn’t matter if it’s real or not, him walking away tells you he doesn’t care if it’s real.
You're not wrong, there is a definitive answer regarding the wedding ring he wears though
Im so mad you figured it out early!!
There is just enough evidence scattered across the movie to assume either. But yes, the belief that he has forgiven himself is the thematic conclusion of the movie. The theories are just for the fans to play with.
It’s also a thematic point: we don’t know what reality is.
@@jlight191the wedding ring is Cobb's actual totem is it not?
If you like trippy, in depth, thinking, questioning reality, then Dark is must watch.
Its the best show ever created. Its literally perfect. The ending is ughhh chefs kiss
agree. a must watching, number 1 if there was not Breaking bad
@@jeronomojoe that’s a controversial statement. I agree, but it is down to personal preferences. It ticks every box for me.
THE BEST SERIES EVER!!
we should really add to not watch the dubbed version.
Give Prestige a try, from Nolan as well 😍
That's the movie they are reacting to this week probably be on youtube nextweek!
my favourite movie of all time
@@misterisak It shows that Hugh Jackman is a REALLY good actor actually. Most people dont realize how talented he is.
yes my fav nolan movie
@@ravensdark99Really? I feel like Hugh Jackman is famously incredibly talented. Not only a great actor, but a dancer and singer as well.
The more Christopher Nolan reactions, the better!
I personally love Tenet although it takes 2 viewings to actually understand imo bc it’s such a mindfuck
@@thomasshelton5052 I agree, but to be honest, I can say that for every Nolan movie. I appreciated every movie of his more on subaequent viewings than on the first viewing (apart from Following)
@@thomasshelton5052I’m up to 15 watches. I love it
They should definitely watch Oppenheimer
@@brysonfreeman7226I would go for something like The Prestige or Memento first, it just feels like Oppenheimer is what his entire filmography has been building towards, so I'd say experiencing some of the earlier ones before makes a bit more sense
21:50 The way I interpret it, Mal was so "evil" in the dreams because Cobb felt such guilt (which he explained towards the end). He was punishing himself through his projections of his wife, because he felt he deserved to be punished... Very sad but also really good writing.
The French song is Edith Piaf's "Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien".
Marion Cotillard played her played her in La Vie En Rose (2007).
Won an Oscar for her performance.
The way they filmed the hallway scene was insane, they made the entire hallway suspended and connected to a huge rotator that spun it around.
Cobb's totem is his ring (when he wears it, he is dreaming, when not, he is awake). The top was Mal's totema but Cobb uses it as well (when it spins incessantly it is a dream, as it defies physical laws, while when it spins for a while and then falls, it is reality).
His ring is a symbol of his guilt. It's in part what grounded him to be he real world. In the end he has that weight lifted and doesn't have his ring, which makes the spinning even more ambigious because as a dreamer hes really really lost without it. He could be in the real world. Or he could finally be at peace in this dream
dreaming and asleep are the same thing...
@@sb16_10 Sorry, the autocorrector. I will change it. Thank you
The ring disappearing at the end is because Cobb's finally let go of Mal and the ring was the symbol of his continued connection to her. Period. A lot of people want to go into all these side theories about it being his "real" totem, and that somehow, somewhere in the movie there's an answer for us to find confirming or denying that he's in a dream at the end. There isn't. According to Christopher Nolan himself -- a much bigger and better expert on his movie than any ten randos on the internet -- anyone who's looking for the "real" answer missed the entire point of the ending that he intended. When asked about the ending in an interview on the Happy Sad Confused podcast, Nolan said:
"I went through a phase where I was asked that a lot. I think it was [producer] Emma Thomas who pointed out the correct answer, which is Leo’s character…the point of the shot is the character doesn’t care at that point."
In an interview with Wired, Nolan added, "There is a nihilistic view of that ending, right? But also, he’s moved on and is with his kids. The ambiguity is not an emotional ambiguity. It’s an intellectual one for the audience."
Whether or not Cobb’s top keeps spinning or falls on the table has no effect on the emotional conclusion of "Inception," which for Nolan is where the heart of the story is. Cobb has made it home to his kids. The character’s emotional journey is complete, thus he doesn’t even care to check if his top spins or falls. Wherever he is at the end, he's made his peace and accepted it as his "reality."
I've seen some people point to an interview with Michael Caine where he says that Nolan told him before filming that any scene Cobb is in with Caine's character takes place in the real world, which would mean that the end was in the real world because Caine's character was there to greet Cobb. On the other hand, most people don't realize that directors tell actors whatever they think they need to tell them to get the performance they want in the scene and Nolan has never confirmed Caine's story. So, y'know, still no real answer there. It's possible that, under the hood, that's what Nolan intended to be the "real" answer, but there are no answers in the film itself. If anything, going by what's actually on the screen in that last scene, I'd argue that it *is* still a dream because Cobb's kids are in the exact same position, doing the exact same thing as the last time he saw them and that's a little weird and dream-like. On the other hand, that could just be Nolan incepting the doubt into our minds to keep the ending from being comfortably conclusive.
Either way, the wedding ring thing is a fan theory that isn't based on anything other than their own interpretation of his ring being on or off, and which misses the simpler, more elegant answer that ties into the emotional core of the film: Cobb has let go of Mal and thus the ring is no longer projected onto his finger. He's moved on.
The good news about an ambiguous ending, though, is that you can decide for yourself whether the end was a dream or not. Just don't fall for the internet chatter that tells you there's an actual correct answer, because there's not.
@@johnplaysgames3120 needed to be said
Next up, check out The Prestige and Memento.
Shuter Island also
@@jsmith1214 Shutter Island is a Martin Scorsese film, not Christopher Nolan like Prestige and Memento.
Memento is a mastercraft
Please yes the Prestige ...!
Science-fiction is a pretty broad term and can contain any fiction where science plays a big part. So this could be considered science-fiction since there is science involved in the dream entering stuff, but you can count it as fantasy as well. Science-fiction isn't only about space though, it's just that often science-fiction is set in the future where space travel is assumed to be more common.
If I'm not mistaken, this was Tom Hardy's real breakthrough movie I think! Such a masterpiece. Nolan's three greats! Interstellar, Inception and Prestige! 😤😤
Ermm the dark knight trilogy
Memento and Oppenheimer
Can’t forget TENET…
@@jaguu4realhe was cast in The Dark Knight trilogy because of this role.
Sci-Fi genre isn’t confined to space. It’s anything science seeks to explain. The human brain / dreams are still very mysterious- science hasn’t been able to explain many things so this movie falls under “Sci-Fi intellectual thriller”.
🗣📢 *_"SPARTAN DOESNT KNOW ANYTHINNNNG!!"_*
@@Trepanation21 💀
was looking for this comment
Agreed. By Spartan’s metrics The Core or The Abyss wouldn’t be sci-fi’s 😅
It’s absolutely science fiction. Science fiction is any fictional story that has to do with technological advancement and humanity’s relationship to it. The whole concept of the dream sharing technology is something that we obviously don’t have in real life. There’s a minor line from Arthur where he mentions that the military developed it to train soldiers.
This is one of my favorite films ever and I think I’ve seen it over 10 times at this point. I was a sophomore in high school when it came out and as someone who mainly watched superhero movies and stuff like Transformers, it changed my perspective on the types of stories that films are capable of telling.
In the end, he is in reality.
1. His real totum is his wedding ring, as the top was his wife's totum and you are told you are never supposed to share your totum's identifier for reality. In the dream he is wearing his wedding ring, because he is still married to his wife's image in his dream, but in reality he is not. In the end he is not wearing the ring.
2. Michael Caine literally said that Nolan told him any scene with him is reality , and he is in the end scene.
I didn't know the wedding ring thing. Really cool. Now I have to catch that upon rewatch.
Ok, but how can we explain that the image of him seeing his kids at the end is the same image of them when he had to flee? And that was also the image he had of them while he was dreaming the whole movie.
Actually I don't think he's back in reality because besides the wedding ring the REAL totem is the children. When he returns they're literally in the exact same position as in his last memory of them. The weather is the same, the garden looks the same and most importantly, they didn't age a day. He was probably gone for at least a year if not more and at that age you can even see a huge difference between months. And that's not something Nolan would ever miss. It's not a mistake.
If you watch closely the kids are wearing slightly different clothes and are older. You see in the Credits they're different actors for the kids.
😮 I never knew that! I’ve watched this movie a million times lol. Now I need to rewatch and pay attention to the ring thing.
The most beautiful part of the last scene to me is that Cobb doesn't even wait to see if the spinner topples.
Your dynamic is so fun, yall can poke fun at one another without it being mean or hurtful and just have a good time
If you remember: The totem only works for the person who made it.
Cobb did not make the spinning top, Mal did. He simply took it after she died.
Ergo, whether the top at the end drops or not (though considering the sound very much made it apparent it was losing speed), doesn't really matter as it's not his totem. But it also doesn't matter to him anymore anyway, as he sees his children's faces for the first time and doesn't even look at the spinning top anymore.
It's argued online that Cobb's totem is his wedding ring, due to him having it off in certain scenes and on in others where he's in a dream. Others have argued that any time you see Michael Caine's character, that that's reality as well, and he was in the last scene.
Lmao snake move. Everyone’s reaction was the same. But it was brilliant.
Nolan basically performs Inception on the audience with that stunt at the end, planting an idea that “is this still a dream”
At this point, DARK is for you !
I immediately thought of that and my hope is up, Dark is sooo good
One of the highest-quality shows of all time.
Yeah... They gotta watch DARK
Not to disparage Dark at all, but I'm seriously at a loss as to how people can recommend it. I thought the first season was great, I'd probably give it a 9/10, but that's only upon my initial watch. After seeing how the story concludes, I feel like the entire series suffered from LOST syndrome where the writer's didn't have an actual goal or end-game in mind and just wrote themselves into a corner.
@@fredwin Dark is quite literally the opposite of what you just explained. A 3 season masterpiece which was meticulously planned from the beginning.
S1: 9/10
S2: 9.5/10
S3: 9/10
Sorry that you had to deal with the bits of ptsd that hit you during this film, Pudgey. I'm glad you were still able to enjoy the film despite that. Both of your reactions were very enjoyable, and yeah I get really sentimental at the end of the film too. 💙
So happy you guys got to experience this masterpiece and enjoyed it! I was on the edge of my seat (literally) when watching this in theaters for the first time. One of my favorite things about this movie is how every member of Cobb's team has a role to play, so you root for every one of them. And then, at the end, the movie is a personal story (Cobb's journey to forgiveness, and Fischer's own journey).
There are so many levels to this, much like the dreams. 1) Cobb’s totem is his wedding ring, he’s only wearing it in his dreams - the end is real. 2) He walks away from Mol’s totem at the end because he’s happy here and doesn’t care if it’s real. 3) Ariadne incepted the idea in Cobb that he could forgive himself for Mol’s death, he didn’t intend for her to die, and he could move on.
Wild shit!
amazing movie. Nolan outdid him-self with this one. and the end makes it so memorable and it stuck in your mind. love this movie 10\10.
Mal's very first line in the movie is such a gut punch on re-view. "If I jump, will I survive?"
Fun fact Christopher Nolan usually works with his brother Jonathan who is a filmmaker and screenwriter as well. Interstellar, Prestige, Batman trilogy and a lot of TV shows were writen by him
Westworld, Fallout
@@staffanbjork8905 Let's not forget Person of Interest, please. In my opinion one of the most underappreciated shows ever created.
@@steffeni.6009 YES PLEASE !!!! Person of Interest is truly one of the best TV series I've seen ! Gosh, I still rewatch some episodes bcoz of how fun it was !
Her laugh after "boom sound no good" is adorable
One of my favourite movies of all time! The acting the story the cinematography the score all perfect!
Got to love Hans Zimmer!
Inception is a metaphor for film-making. The more you break immersion with bad writing, the more the audience knows they are watching fiction and become hostile towards it.
There are intentional oddities inserted in both reality and memories to question the entire movie; the closing walls in the chase scene and Mal jumping off from the opposite hotelroom
The walls didn't close, they just weren't built with respect to each other. You find architecture like that _all the time_ in less-regulated regions, or with old architecture that predates and was excempted from the regulations. So perhaps that _was_ meant to evoke that sense on a rewatch/reflection, but there's nothing particularly unusual about it either.
I don't think he actually meant they were closing @@Trepanation21
It’s crazy how much the culture lambasted this film for being too complex to understand and yet here in watching you two see EVERYTHING. For a complex film it lays its world building out real well for a new audience.
This whole post discussion is exactly what everyone did after watching this movie when it released 😂😅
And the depths of the post movie discussion is a really good sign it was a good movie.
Do you realize that Fischer is not the only one to have inception done on him in the movie? Cobb is also the subject on an inception. The idea implanted in him is he must forgive himself and let go of Mal. It's actually Michael Caine's character who has the idea. That's why he accepted to introduce Ariadne to Cobb. In parallel, he told Ariadne what she had to do. That's why she wanted so much to discover what Cobb was hiding, why she insisted to go with them in the dreams. It was also her idea to go to the limbos because she knew they had to go that deep for the inception to work. And in the end, she created the conditions for the inception but it was Cobb himself who implanted the idea to let Mal go in his own subconscious. It is also possible Arthur was aware of what she was doing but I'm not sure of that...
HOLY SHIT I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT
Cobb's real totem is the wedding ring. In a dream, he always wears it on his finger, but in reality he carries it in his pocket. The ring allows him to determine if he is in someone else's dream. Nothing is known about its properties. A standard totem will allow you to determine whether a person is in someone else's dream (that's why no one tells each other about secret properties). A standard totem is not able to indicate whether a person is in his own dream. This is what Cobb fears most - getting lost in his dream, no longer distinguishing between reality. When people around them see a top, intuitively in their dreams they will make it fall, recreating the obvious properties of the object. However, in Cobb’s dream the top will not fall, because it is he who will create reality and will be able to “keep” it in motion.
Once again, if this sounds confusing... 😅The ring for Cobb works like a standard totem and shows if he is in someone else's dream. And the top shows whether Cobb is in his personal dream.
It just astonishes me that someone could come up with a story this deep and complex and entertaining at the same time.
I hope you watch the Prestige next. Another amazing Nolan movie.
This movie still lives up so many years later
The intials if each character makes up the word Dreams.
Not quite. The team's first names' initials do spell "dreamy" (you forgot Yusuf), but there's a leftover second A (Ariadne/Arthur). I assume you got your S from Saito, but his first name is never given, as far as I can tell.
a dream spy
Michael Caine told Christopher Nolan that he was a bit confused about the story and what was real and what wasn't. Nolan replied: if you are in a scene, this is reality.
Michael Caine is there to welcome Di Caprio at the airport at the end, so feel free to believe Nolan.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong That has nothing to do with Michael Caine? How did you make that jump? He's just talking about scenes with Caine.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrongnope, that’s an invalid argument. That's called the fallacy of denying the antecedent, a logical fallacy where it's assumed that if a condition isn't met, then the consequence is also negated, which isn't necessarily true. “If A, then B” does NOT mean “If Not A, then Not B”
@CottageCheeseGuy you still dont make any sense man. He didn't say those scenes were only reality, he said the scenes "WITH" Caine were. Get some better reading comprehension bud, put some respect on the English language if you're gonna talk down on others.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong That's a logical fallacy. All apples are fruit, that doesn't mean that everything that ISN'T' an apple also ISN'T a fruit. An orange is also a fruit, despite not being an apple.
By the same logic, if all scenes with Michael Caine are real life, that doesn't mean that scenes WITHOUT Michael Caine are necessarily not real life. The chase in Mombasa, for example, doesn't have Michael Caine, but indisputably takes place in real life.
@@DarrylJohnsonIsWrong You are incorrect, whether it's apparent to you or not. Caine being in "reality" scenes does not also automatically mean that all scenes without Caine aren't reality.
I really get what Spartan is talking about when it comes to dreams that feel real. It only happened to me once, I dreamed of my crush in high school and how we were together and all. I felt so sad when I woke up. It was the most realistic dream I ever had. I remember writing everything down as soon as I realized I was awake as to make sure not to forget it. Never felt that way again, but I did do the exact same thing, lying on the bed and try to reconnect with the dream. Never happened, but it was a really nice feeling while it lasted.
IKR ?! I recently had such a dream and for that whole week, whenever I remember that experience I would automatically smile, but when I realize again that it would never happen, I get emotional ;( ... Now I just have the bits and pieces of 'memories' of that beautiful dream !
There's no-one quite like Christopher Nolan when it comes to mind-bending cerebral epics like this. Amazing Director.
Loved the soundtrack of this movie. That electric guitar is just *chef's kiss*
Your reaction to this was a lot more personal, and I learned a lot more about you both than almost all your other reactions. Can't wait for The Prestige.
The Prestige, Memento, Tenet, all amazing Nolan films. The Prestige was the first film of his I saw and it’s still in my top favorite movies of all time. Memento was one I actually watched for the first time earlier this year, and I absolutely loved it. A lot of people seem to consider Tenet as the most confusing/complicated, but again, I love it. Nolan just doesn’t miss.
Tenet is really underrated in my opinion, it’s absolutely stunning
Dunkirk is underrated too, it was the most suspense I've ever felt in a movie theater, it evoked emotions no other movie ever before or since did for me. When me and my mom left the theater we were like, this was incredible, we don't want to watch that ever again or at least for a very very long time.
@@Eagle3302PL I’ve never seen it, I’ve been meaning to tho. Thanks for the comment!
So glad you two watched this incredible movie. This is one of the best movies ever. In the end it’s a love story about Cobb & Mal that happens to have great action, philosophy, & dreams vs reality concepts. Hans Zimmer’s soundtrack is utterly amazing too. The music is moving & emotional. The song played at the end, “Time” is one of the best soundtrack songs ever.
the crazy part about the end when he goes to save old man saito is they really had a bond in that layer of dream. yet in the real world they are pretty much just work acquaintances. its just like when one has their own emotional dream and it feels like u get that super intimate emotion to that projection in your mind then wake up and its nothing.
Nolan at his best here...again...If you think this ending is scary..watch Oppenheimer..thats the single best dialogue and the scariest ending in movie history....Also here..the great Ken Watanabe..one of the greatest Japanese Actors and super underrated..he rocked literally every role he ever did..Also I remember in the cinema when it ended half the cinema jumped up and screamed :"Fuuuuuu*** you Noooolannnnn"
Oppenheimer is one of my least favorite Nolan movies, but it’s still good because all Nolan movies are.
@@maxducoudray Fantastic way to put it. Completely agreed.
Yes please, Oppenheimer left me speachless. Now it’s my favorite movie
1:06:10 yo spartan you just planted an idea in pudgey's head...a resilient idea..
I can’t ever remember my dreams after I wake up except a single one from when I was young that I can remember everything and every feeling like it was real. It really trips me out sometimes
I know what the director said about the ending but the fact that the only time you are able to see the kids faces is at the end I feel he is awake. Great movie none the less.
I had this one dream where I realised that I was dreaming but didn't immediately wake up and then I literally remember myself thinking inside the dream "oh I'm dreaming, I can do whatever I want". Don't remember much after that. It's interesting because usually we don't realise we are dreaming or when we start to arrive to that point it's when we are about the wake up and never actually get to the point of realising.
I also remember having such dreams on occasions. When it happened I started to explore the area I was in, and I even was able to levitate myself (i.e. fly) to other places in the dreamworld.
It's called "lucid dreaming", and allegedly can even be trained for having more control over it.
Usually the dream protects the sleep, but when you get aware of it, most people immediately wake up. But when you manage to stay asleep after noticing it, you can become the Neo in your own Matrix.
@@Cau_Noyou are right, I have been practicing lucid dreaming for 4 years now, truly amazing you should try it.
I have had this a few times too! But it has been a long time since last time.
The first time it happened, I didn't know how to change the dream. I ended up jumping out a window, immediately waking up... After that, I realized that change in my dreams is often correlated with motion, so if I keep walking the dream will change. Next time I had a lucid dream, I imagined a situation I wanted to experience, and started walking. Quite soon the dream indeed changed to what I wanted, it was really cool!
I did this myself, started controlling my dream.
What you experienced is called lucid dreaming.
It's Sci-Fi heist movie, I'd say. SF is not exclusively in space. Some would actually argue Star Wars, which happens in space, is more fantasy rather than SF.
1:13:17 Well, I wouldn't say _realized_ . Fischer was _manipulated_ into thinking his father wasn't disappointed in him, but yeah he's probably happier now believing that.
What I find impressive is that by cutting that scene at the end of the movie, Christopher Nolan planted us the idea that this is probably a dream.
Nolan´s "Memento" deserves a reaction as well. It made me follow his work back then.
it is the small budget film that got Nolan the status to get big budgets and A list stars
The soundtrack for this film is one of my favorites that I've ever experienced in theaters. Nothing like that resonant dissonance through a dolby sound system to underscore existential dread 😂🧡
People leaving cinema after this film , that was all the talk!! “Did it drop? Did it drop” such a great film pop culture moment! 🙌🏾
“SNAKES” haha great reaction!
Definitely one of my top 5 movies of all time, Nolan really delivered here.
Very underrated aspect is how Cobb builds trust with Fischer in the plane with the wallet. I think this is partly why Fischer trusts him in the second level and during the ending scene he probably thinks he just put this man's face on his security projection or something.
I think the greatest strength of this film is it has such a complicated and creative concept but it manages to teach you all the rules throughout. Even though at first it seems really confusing they do a great job of making you understand it. Compare this to Tenet, which has just as an amazing concept but its mechanics and story is so confusing and hard to follow that they literally tell you not to try and understand it in the movie!
Another great one guys! Couple of things, I know you guys have a laugh and banter but I appreciated a lot of the chat at the end like when discussing who'd be the Mal and Spartan refrained from getting too personal. And I empathise with Pudgey, I got hit by a car a few years back and its the sounds that really get me. The "do you need to pause?" Was so cool to hear the respect and care there. Anyway, thanks guys and I think you'd really like The Prestige- another trippy Nolan movie starring Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman as rival stage magicians.
This is my favorite film of all time. Incredible cast, Nolan, Hans Zimmer score, The intrigue and suspense at the end, absolute masterpiece.
it didn't drop because Nolan was reminding 'we' the audience to wake up and get back to reality... Cobb doesn't need it anymore, he saw his children, he wasn't looking back, he chose his reality!
Easily among my top 3 movies of all-time. I still remember being fully immersed and enamored in the theater when I first watched it.
My take: Cobb was the target all along, not Fischer. Ariadne was the extractor, which is why she took so easily to manipulating and creating dream reality, and why it was her idea to go another level to complete the mission (also why she was so damn nosy in Cobb's mind, she was actually doing intelligence gathering). Cobb had to be set up to go on this mission so that Ariadne would implant the idea that Mal's death wasn't his fault.
I like it
Pudgey's totem being Ferrero 🤣
Take no drinks from strangers is a good advice.
Interesting points in the outro. It as me wondering what is the difference in memories. A memory of an event in reality or a memory of a dream. Memory is memory. It doesn't make either less or more valid.
I've been watching you two for a long time now. Pudgy's laugh at 1:05:05 is the best yet.
You haven't watched this movie until you watched it atleast 50 times. You're gonna catch several new things every time you watch it. I've deadass seen this movie over a 1000 times. Favorite movie ever.
For me one 8f the best movies ever.
Cinematography, a well written script, a great premise, astonishing actors.
Its ridiculus how good it is!
Just a few minutes in "I'm confused" ohhhh just you wait brother..no need for drugs with this trip.
1:05:05 wow I’ve never heard Pudgey laugh like that! Boom sound no good 😂.
You guys gotta check out Shutter Island !!
His totem was his ring, not the spinning top. A lot of people get that wrong. The spinning top is her totem. It was only shown as a sign that he let her go.
At the end Cobb returned to reality because if you pay attention, at the begining of the end credits, you can hear the spin dropping.
The last scene was perfect as the entire theme of this movie is the power of 'doubt'
"That is a snake move!" Yes, and this was a reason for a lot of fights back then 🤣🤣🤣
Some people saying it was a dream, some saying it wasn't... This movie is a whole lifetime experience, unbelievable.
My favourite Nolan movies in reverse order (last is first):
10: Dark knight rises
9: Tenet
8: Dunkirk
7: Batman Begins
6: Momento
5: Inception
4: Prestige
3: Oppenheimer
2: Dark knight
1: Interstellar
If you remember the spinning top totem is Mal’s not Cobb’s. His real totem I believe is his wedding ring. He wears it in the dream sequences but not in reality. However in the final sequences from waking up in the plane through the ending, they deliberately don’t show his ring hand. 😂
This era of movies was really the last of the greats.. Like we get a good movie perhaps once a year now, back in 2000-2012 we had so many amazing films.
The music in that final sequence is wondrous.
“The dream within a dream” realization moment was hilarious
Inception is one the greatest movies. Not just great. There are many great movies, that I love. But Inception is a unique and interesting concept. It's not a space film, or a western film, or an adventure film or something like that, although there are good of those. It just brings in a concept that is very special and unique, something you don't experience every day. Whoever wrote the script and had the idea of the movie, is a genius.
"Limitless" and "In Time" are two other really trippy movies :)
When Spartan said "it's a dream within a dream" I did the Leo point meme. The common theory is the top isn't Dom's totem, his wedding ring is...
"What a way to wake up"
Exactly. Exaaaactly.....
It’s very impressive Nolan squeezed this film in-between Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises. Then 2 years after, released Interstellar. He’s one of our best.
Loved the candid reactions/discussions you two have! Glad you enjoyed the movie so much, it is a yearly must watch for me, you will appreciate details in a 2nd watch through 😊
The Prestige by Nolan has to be next, such a mindfuck, so good
Mind Splode! I love the way Nolan wrote this film, very smart the way he uses a lot of what we all know from our dreams to make a very convincing Sci Fi.
Whenever Michael Cane's character is there, it's real and not a dream
1:06:52 That's actually such a good idea having sweets as your totem. At least it would work for me because the times when I dream I'm eating sweets they always taste really strange, even though they look real😄
There's a fan theory that Cobb's wedding ring is his dream totem, but that's based on a fundamental misunderstanding combining with people making things more complicated than they need to be. The totem has to be an object that the dreamer is intimately familiar with but no one else is (so no "architect" can counterfeit it in a dream). People jump to the conclusion that, since the top was Mal's totem, it can't be Cobb's, but that's wrong. Now that Mal is dead, it _can_ be Cobb's, and how he uses it throughout the film shows you that he has indeed taken it as his own. His wedding ring (and whether or not he's wearing it) is simply an indication of his self-image and state of mind.
Loved your reaction to this movie as well as your insights. Pudgey: I am sorry this movie gave you some ptsd, and props for not backing down. Your laughter is amazing and made my day.
Here's my take, doesn't matter if the top drops, if Cobb is awake then he gets to see his kids grow up. If it doesn't he's still in Limbo and gets to see his kids grow up and that will have become his reality now, and to paraphrase the old man in the basement on Mombasa, "who are we to say otherwise?"
This film, like the dreams in the narrative is layered. On the first layer it's a heist film where a team of specialists is put together, only they are leaving something rather than stealing something. On the next layer Ariadne, named after the Greek princess who gave Theseus the clue he needed to escape the Labyrinth of the minotaur, does the same for Cobb, helping him forgive himself for his Unwitting role in his wife's death. I think she was hired by Michael Caine's character to perform Inception on Cobb. Some say Cobb's wedding ring is his totem since he only has it on in the dream but I think it's a representation of his guilt, so when he does not have it at the end it represents him letting his guilt over Mal go. Finally, this film hints that every film we watch is a sort of dream we share with everyone who sees that film (note how the kick plays at the end, to wake us from the dream that is Inception).
Your reaction to this was so fun! Seeing you guys connect things throughout the movie was really cool. I remember seeing it opening night in theaters and all the hype for the movie at the time. It was all anyone could talk about. I think I saw it twice in theaters.