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I love how the movie starts with the main character feeling like he's just a cog in a wheel, then encourages others to become 'free' and individual, only to create a group that lacks any kind of individuality. They go from corporate drones to terrorist drones.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Yeah, there were critics on all sides not getting the point while acting like everyone _else_ was missing the point. It was both hilarious and depressing at the same time. "Oh it's just a critique of toxic masculinity and you didn't get it". Well that's part of it, but the author literally said it was about the male experience and the pressures we face in society. In the end, he didn't have an answer, either, which is why Tyler's solution wasn't any better than anyone else's. The author was just saying, "Yeah, it's easier to criticize than solve the problem, but at least here's the problem that we haven't really addressed..."
Thank goodness there was a wonderful woman there to explain to the frickin' man, what was happening in a story that is primarily a love letter to men lol - Damn it, Bobbeh >.< Protect that woman at all costs.
Chuck Palahniuk, the author of the Fight Club book that this movie is based on, was inspired to write the story after he got beat up for asking some people to turn their radio down while he was camping. When he returned to work, it was obvious he had been in a fight, but nobody said a word to him about his black eye and battered face.
Pudgey, that "grounded" aspect of the movie that resonates with you is really one of the deeper message of the movie. Consumerism, capitalism, male mental health, the distance and emptiness in the modern day life. It's something we all feel, but ironically it takes someone with insomnia to be able to see it clearly.
Yeah it would take someone so "far away" from themselves/their mind to see things "clearer" cause they have begun to separate from their regular, usual, everyday Self. Sort of a "ego death" type of thing through Insomnia.
I left a large US metro area and ended up in KS where I hang out with Anabaptist people who live outside the modern world, it's so much more fulfilling. They have tight communities with few modern distractions, there is so much more humanity/community, they are happy with simple things, have no interest in consumerism/entertainment/distractions, it's how humans are meant to live. It's not all horse/buggy types, there are a spectrum of them, some use cars/smartphones, but everything is tightly regulated and minimized. The modern world leaves us so isolated/empty.
The Matrix and Fight Club were very successful movies that were released in the same year and questioned the reality of our lives in different ways. During the same period, Dark City, The Truman Show, The Thirteenth Floor were other successful movies that questioned reality. The reason why all these movies were released in 1998 and 1999 was the concerns that humanity had about its own lives and the fate of the world as it entered the new millennium.
Yeah, many people believed at that time frame, that the world would end in the year 2,000 and the internet and computers would stop working and it would create major Chaos. Many people ended their lives due to this paranoia of those times.
“Wild scenarios.” That one happened in real life. Lorena Bobbit cut her husband’s off, went for a drive, and threw it out her car window. It was a big enough news story that they referenced it in this movie like 10 years later.
@@MrEnvisioner They ARE intentional edits. What do you think that the video is just randomly glitching like that? Those are called video effects. Bro thought it's a glitch in the Matrix lol 😂
Michael Lee Aday, the actor playing Robert Paulson, is better known by his stage name, Meatloaf (RIP). He was a classically trained singer and Grammy Award winner who sold millions of albums. As an actor he appeared in many films including "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."
Spartan, you're proof the movie accomplished exactly what it set out to do. Mental illness can be hard to empathize with and the movie did a great job conveying the disconnect and process of information a malfunctioning brain might experience.
As someone who had a traumatic brain injury and has lived with post-concussion syndrome for 4 years now: YES. Disconnect and difficulty processing information is something I experience (along with insomnia and a bunch of other symptoms) and it has been incredibly hard for some of the people in my life to understand or even just respect. I haven't done any of the things Tyler Durden does in the movie, but still I lost most of my friends since the initial accident. 🤷♀ I feel like the mental health aspect of the story isn't often brought up, so I'm glad you did! If the doctor at the beginning had taken "Jack"'s pleas for help more seriously, so much suffering could have been avoided.
Spartan's reactions are exactly why this movie was such a hit and is now a classic. I encourage you to watch some video essays analyzing the themes and meaning of the film, it's powerful stuff.
it’s definitely a movie you have to go back and watch a second time, you’ll pick up on SO much, like the line where he’s beating himself up in his boss’ office where he says “for some reason I thought of my first fight with Tyler”, and Bobs line when they see each other in the street, “I heard he only sleeps one hour a night”
And why Bob didn't recognize him as Tyler, because he'd only heard the name from someone else (Narrator was "Cornelius" to him) And then there's the whole rabbit hole of Edward Norton escaping the crashed vehicle from the driver's side, the valet driver looking at Norton when he calls him "Mr. Durden" (who then looks at Pitt and says, "After _you_ Mr. Durden") My personal favorite is the 3-way conversation between Narrator and Marla: On first viewing, the audience thinks she's talking about herself and Tyler, and that Narrator is talking about himself and Tyler. On second viewing, you realize she's talking about herself and Narrator, and Narrator's reference to "us" outside of himself and Marla is confusing to her, hence why she gets curious and Tyler has to shut the conversation down. But the conversation works both times, when you realize everyone's reference frame.
You used to be able to press “*69” on a phone and you could call back the phone number that called you (before caller ID and “missed call” lists made this obsolete). Hence the calling back on pay phone (though in the movie’s case, it was all in his head anyway haha).
Yeah, he subconsciously had to hang up, or else he'd risk a real person answering and interrupting his ability to talk to himself unabated through the charade...
Helena Bonham Carter was unfamiliar with exactly what ages Grade School would entail when the "I haven't been fucked like that since Grade School" line came up, and assumed it was the equivalent of high school. Grade School in America typically tops out at 8th grade, or a maximum of 13-14 years old. Carter was absolutely disgusted when she learned that. Even better, the original line was supposed to be "I want to have your abortion" but the studio made them change it.
Didnt the studio ask Fincher to change it back after they heard the line about grade school or something like that? Also, in my head, grade school ends after 6th grade, but I realize it varies depending on the region.
@@xtldc Yes, Fincher made a deal with the execs to change it, then changed it to something worse, and refused to change it back to the Abortion line lol
Yeah, the studio made him change it, but he made the deal that they had to stick with whatever he changed it to. And that's kind of a wild deal to make, considering the source material. If you're replacing "I want to have your abortion", you have GOT to be worried about what the alternative is going to be hahah. So yeah, he changed it and wouldn't change it back because a deal is a deal! (Also: Carter first found out because she kept hearing everyone snicker on set when she said it. She asked why people were laughing and then they explained it to her. She was especially embarrassed at the premier, where her parents attended. That dishwashing glove... 😂☠)
This is one of those movies that completely changes when you rewatch it. You caught one of the biggest clues: the payphone. If you look closely, you can see a sticker on it that says "This phone does not accept incoming calls." There's so many little moments that you don't catch until you watch it again.
11:27 You 100% can call a public phone. Once I was in a shopping centre and one of those Telstra payphones just started ringing. I picked it up and thought I was about to star in my own movie! Turned out to be someone who missed a call from the phone and were returning the call.
On this particular phone in the movie, there's a sticker that says it doesn't accept incoming calls... but in plenty of other movies (e.g. Heat), a person who wishes to be anonymous would call a known line (e.g. a company line and ask for a specific manager/employee), give them the number of the payphone, and then hang up and wait for a call back.
People listened back then and obeyed the first rule You Don't Talk About Fight Club. The twist like The Sixth Sense wasn't talked about and everyone found out from viewing. Back when spoilers were a lot less common.
11:28 - This particular "wild scenario" was a very famous true case in the 90s and a reference that anyone who was an adult then would immediately understand.
this movie is a criticism of capitalism and social commentary about masculinity and philosophical ideas surrounding this topic. I'm sure there are some UA-cam essays that will explain better than i do
Different “C”. You mean it’s using modern ideas criticizing Consumerism, where it’s striking at the ideas created by it, for example the idea of defining the self by consumption “You’re not your F-ing khakis.”
Shutter Island was directed by Martin Scorsese. Fight Club was directed by David Fincher who made The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Game, Gone Girl, Se7en, Zodiac, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Panic Room, among others, and more recently, The Killer on Netflix. He was also involved in the series Mindhunter on Netflix.
Fincher is a legendary director at this point, my favorites are Se7en and Fight club ofc which I consider absolute masterpieces, but I did also love The Game and mindhunter out of all of his work the most and most of the others were pretty decent too. The thing is, I think they have watched none of these. But hopefully they watch Se7en next. Its a new world for them, so I guess Fight club was a good choice to check out this director for the first time.
This movie is basically for Gen-X and early millennials, though it applies to everyone who came after as well. It's about consumerism, the lie capitalism has sold people in pursuit of profit, and how it has stolen our futures. It's a commentary on depression, and hopelessness, and it's wrapped in irony about as thick as it gets. Brad Pitt standing on a bus pointing at an underwear model "Is that what a man looks like?", and Brad Pitt is literally the movie star of all movie stars, and more attractive than any male model. It was bad for us Gen-X'ers, because we were bombarded with all that consumer shit in the 80s and 90s and eventually a generation of men grew up realizing we were not, in fact, going to be rich and successful as Durden says at one point. For baby millennials like you two, Spartan and Pudgey, young millennials and zoomers? You poor buggers never had a chance. We only had to deal with television, radio, and movies growing up. You have had to deal with that nonsense via social media that has been pumped directly into your lives since you were pretty much born. This is honestly, for people of a certain age, one of the most impactful, and important social commentaries in the form of a movie ever made. A lot of people think the movie is about fighting. It isn't. The fighting is window dressing to a movie talking about a deep seated pathological depression and isolation, brought on by the pursuit of run away consumerism, that many of us didn't really identify until we were much older. This is a movie worth watching a second time, because the entire movie becomes WAY clearer, and the REAL message hits WAY harder when you already know the big secret.
I think Fight Club was the first DVD that I had ever purchased. At 16 I was expecting something like Mortal Combat. Boy was I wrong. The movie struck a chord with me because I didn't like the materialistic world we grew up in.
@@pfang32 Good work Pudgey. I see you are getting better at coping with car crash visuals. Good on you girl. -------- Soon you'll have enjoy strength to take on the Bourne trilogy, Ronin and the French Connection. They have some of the best car chase scene ever made.
In general the 90s were very optimistic. The Iron Curtain had fallen, World war III was no longer a fear, several regimes were replaced by democracies, virtual reality was a hype (and stayed that), if you were young you were raving at a houseparty, the US had a young president with a teen daughter and the internet was promising to connect the entire world together. This movie was a cynical antidote to that.
One of the most misunderstood films of all time. It’s about cult mentalities and toxic masculinity. So many men became Tyler Durden fanboys after this movie came out when he’s supposed to be an obvious manipulative psycho. Kind of like how The Wolf of Wall Street was misunderstood.
32:10 every time this scene comes up and the younger reactors don't catch up that they're erasing the VHS tapes reminds me of how old I'm even though I'm not even 30 yet lol
Growing up in the 90s, I can confirm that the culture references in this movie are real. For instance *69 and *67 were used often with phones and you could literally call back any phone that had just called you including payphones. When Tyler mentions the possibility of a chopped off penis thrown out a car, that was current news back then.
I feel like Spartan is going to react to this film in a special kind of way. This film made many in my generation question the meaning of what it is to be a man, something that many of us didn’t put too much time into before.
Yes, people have survived botched suicide attempts like that. Depending upon aim, the bullet can pass through the cheeks, jaw, or exiting out around the ear. You usually end up deaf and in need of major reconstructive surgery in order to use your jaw again.
My dad survived it. Took out most of his frontal lobe and he is now living blissfully ignorant of how many lives he ruined through the years. Dumb irish luck.
"The dude in the back just buckling up..." The car crash is one of the funniest scenes in hindsight. Tyler is up front arguing with himself while driving dangerously, but 'self-portait' and 'build a house' only say "In Project Mayhem we do not ask questions!" when 'narrator' speaks, but answer Tyler immediately when he addresses them directly. Those guys are in so far over their heads that the fact they even buckle up is remarkable.
one of the greatest moments in all film is when Tyler is talking to YOU and the films starts to bend. He has gained so much power in the movie and on you that he is able to bend the film in the projector itself!
Hey Pudgey, I know you this is how you exited your last job to start UA-cam. Walk into your boss's office and pull off an Ed Norton-type exit pay compensation package. -------- Where you blackmail your boss with beating you up for not coding the correct sequence. ------ Then you'll be able to dedicate your time fully to the Concert circuit. --------- Woooo Hoooo. That's how Pudgey got her first affiliate partnership.
I love the ending so damn much. It's perfect. Fincher is in the top three directors of all time. He gathers some of the greatest teams of all time as well.
This movie has the best replay value ever. Its gets so much better every time you watch it, and you pick up on all the subtle clues and dialogue that they drop. My favorite parts of the movie is when they break the fourth wall and tell you information and facts that seem crazy but they’re trying to point out the illusion of corporations and powerful people out of reach of normal life telling you what you need to do or buy and what the meaning of our lives are and what we’re worth. The people always have power but people were raised to not be free thinkers, so most accept the lives of mundanity.
The Chinese Government changed the ending for their local version. Just before the buildings explode it cuts to a screen of text saying the Chinese equivalent of "Through the clues provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all the criminals, successfully preventing the bombs from exploding. After the Trial Tyler was sent to the lunatic asylum and received psychological treatment. He was discharged from hospital in 2012."
- The initial flashes during the beginning of the movie were all Tyler (wearing his iconic red jacket) appearing to Jack. They were all before they've officially "met" on the plane. It's the early stages of Jack finally visually imagining Tyler. The penis flash at the end is just a meta-joke to the audience. - At the final scene Jack intentionally (or maybe accidently) shot himself in the cheek and jaw at the end but he made Tyler believe he shot himself in the head. The shock and the trauma of believing he's dying made Tyler cease to exist, similar to you'd pass out in a near-death shock moment, like an automobile accident but because Tyler doesn't have the control of the physical side now, he never woke up from that shock. - Yeah, the brief story is; people have seen Jack beating himself up and probably talking to himself like he was two different people. they've probably initially stayed to watch a crazy man doing a funny crazy thing. But then, they were amazed by his ideology, his ability to not care about anything, his ability to risk everything, his ability to not care at all, his limitless freedom so to speak... They might have thought this guy is not afraid to even beat the shit out of himself up because he was angry to himself for being such a materialist man dependng on money, possessions, meaningless society roles, etc for a long time... They were all feeling the same struggles and they've decided to follow this man to the end. - People seemed to interact with both of them througout the movie because they really did. But it was physically the same person for them all the time. Jack just sometimes imagined Tyler having those conversations with other people and he's just watching or hearing that but physically he was doing the interaction; he was speaking, he was fighting... About the Bob joining the cult at the porch; he (as Tyler) sent Bob away, but when Bob was leaving, he (as Jack himself) went back to Bob and told him about the conditionsn and encouraged him to stay. To Bob, the same person did both sent him away and also brought him back just after. He probably thought "Oh, this Tyler dude, what a brilliant, eccentric man..." because he was already under his spell. - On that note; it's funny the only person dead we know is Bob, and he is the only person we know who wouldn't be a part of Project Mayhem, if he was truly fully subjected to Tyler's elimination criteria. According to Tyler the applicant should have stayed at the porch for 3 days without food, shelter or ENCOURAGEMENT. He was tipped off by Jack about Tyler's expectations which is a huge ENCOURAGEMENT. - If there's one movie you should watch more than one time, it's Fight Club. Every time you see it, you'll realize minor details leading to the twist or some other cool details or ideas.
Here is a tip : Watch the movie two times more this year them watch it again every 4th year. With your life experiences, you ALWAYS get new angels on this movie and they are such a high every time you get them. Also, I think this move always will be relevant in any part of the world. Much love too you both ❤❤❤
Yeah, and it’s a bit of a subtle difference. The first rule (and repeated as the second) is the only rule that concerns behavior outside of Fight Club.
This was directed by David Fincher he's made some other great movies worth reacting to if you havent seen them. Se7en, Gone Girl, Zodiac, The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Apparently there is a theory that Marla is also a character only existing in "Jack"'s mind. At first I dismissed it with contempt, thinking that it was a really stupid idea, but the more I think about it in context of the movie, the more sense it makes, albeit deeply troubling.
"How is he dressed so sharp if he lives in a dump?" Good question, Spartan. 😁 And the answer is: his clothes don't even exist. 🤯 "How do you look at that, and then wanna be next?" Good question, Pudgey. 😁 And the answer is... well... that the guy is even more f'ed up than you thought, since he was looking at a guy hitting himself and asked if he could hit him, too. 🤣
Love that shot at 40:42. It's a POV of Tyler as his left hand fights with his right hand for control of the steering wheel, but because it's so quick we assume the other hand belongs to the guy in the passenger seat. But of course there is no guy in the passenger seat.
This classic inspired one of my favorite tv series ever, Mr. Robot. It was an underrated masterpiece. It's Fight Club but taking the themes and psychological/mental aspects in a more serious and mature tone.
This was the first R rated movie I saw in the cinema (turned 18 2 months before it released) - and it blew my mind, even though I'd read the book when my uncle gave it to me a couple years earlier. The look of it, the editing, the brilliance of the screenplay, the performances, the soundtrack - just everything. Fun fact: the book this is adapted from has a... different... ending - enough so that there are two comic runs by the author to continue his version (Fight Club 2 & 3) - also awesome.
Saw this in theatres when first released. Has seen many movies in my life and majority of Brad Pitt's work. 90s was definitely his heyday. Always funny to see people especially younger watch a movie later on. Next to Seven think its David Fincher's best film.
This whole movie is about how people can join cults. It just takes one very charismatic leader that says things that sound wise and profound to get you to do their bidding.
Another awesome movie reaction, Spartan and Pudgey. Other Brad Pitt movies you should react to are Fury, Kalifornia Seven, Troy, Bullet Train, Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Twelve, Ocean's Thirteen, The Departed, Thelma and Louise, World War Z, Interview With the Vampire, Legends of the Fall, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, A Rivers Rubs Through It, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
I don't know about the book, but I like to think it was the few human connections made as Jack that saved him from diving completely into being Tyler. He met Bob and Marla as his normal everyday self. When Bob almost left the porch he didn't want his one genuine friend to leave, especially with Tyler leaving him out of quite a bit at that point. Marla literally becomes his "power animal" at one point. And when Bob dies because of his assignments, he really starts to snap out of it. This is one of those movies I notice more details every time. No wonder your brain feels fried after picking up enough details to fill my first five viewings.
Its actually crazy that you guys hadn't seen this either. Cheers great choice. I will say this imagine a year when you can finally see on the cinemas these : The Matrix, LOTR and Fight Club. Dark city - an insanely good sci-fi film also released just a little bit earlier than all of these. For me the best few years by far for modern cinema and some of us were just around 18 at the time. That was the late 90s to the early 00s. Mindblowing years. A new age of cinema.
Real "fight clubs" started popping up in random places soon after this film was released. My older brother used to run one and it was so weird that they got people of all ages just needing an escape from normal life
This is one of those movies you just sit back and enjoy the ride not knowing where this movie will take you. They don't make many movies like this anymore. You can't predict what will happen next.
A rewatch will yield a lot of clues to the plot. The "flashes" were Brad Pitt posing in the scene in single-frames of the movie. My favorite - the call-back on the pay phone. As the camera zooms in on the phone, you can see a label that says "no return calls." In other words, the phone wasn't set up to receive calls. The call from the ring to the end was all in his head. Lastly, there's a theory that rewatches can't disprove: That Marla was also in his head and that the threeway relationship was a schizophrenic war between the broken masculine and broken feminine of the Narrator's mind.
We had a technical error with the mic towards the end of the movie which has created some distortion in some of our words unfortunately, still very audible though.
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funnily enough that kinda fits the movie
you're Australian, so we're use to your words being distorted.
oh zing!
Actually looked intentional based on the movie😅
Me thinking it was intentional cuz all the flashes you saw. The movie is possessing your video
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11:30 "Oh my god, this guy has the same brain !"
Now that's foreshadowing 😂
I love how the movie starts with the main character feeling like he's just a cog in a wheel, then encourages others to become 'free' and individual, only to create a group that lacks any kind of individuality. They go from corporate drones to terrorist drones.
I feel like too many people miss that point
Even a revolution needs drones!
@@Andre_APM Including a lot of the critics, who thought the film was pro-fascist, when it's a critique of fascism and how it attracts people.
@@Corn_Pone_Flicks Yeah, there were critics on all sides not getting the point while acting like everyone _else_ was missing the point. It was both hilarious and depressing at the same time. "Oh it's just a critique of toxic masculinity and you didn't get it". Well that's part of it, but the author literally said it was about the male experience and the pressures we face in society. In the end, he didn't have an answer, either, which is why Tyler's solution wasn't any better than anyone else's. The author was just saying, "Yeah, it's easier to criticize than solve the problem, but at least here's the problem that we haven't really addressed..."
@@extantsanity still hasn't been addressed sadly
Spartan so uncomfortably confused throughout was golden 🤣
Expression at 53:57
Thank goodness there was a wonderful woman there to explain to the frickin' man, what was happening in a story that is primarily a love letter to men lol - Damn it, Bobbeh >.< Protect that woman at all costs.
Mr slow 😂
@@AmateurSurgeonThe3rd lmaooo
Give the man some credit, he figured out Tyler was inside the narrators head way before most people do
Imagine how popular this movie could've been if we were allowed to talk about it.
Tell people not to do something it's something they're gonna do, people love to break rules.....smart stuff from Tyler.
That's a good joke, Dad.
@@paulcurran4786 but it was also to ensure they will think twice until they invite someone, to ensure they invite mostly the right people ;)
Wich movie?
Chuck Palahniuk, the author of the Fight Club book that this movie is based on, was inspired to write the story after he got beat up for asking some people to turn their radio down while he was camping.
When he returned to work, it was obvious he had been in a fight, but nobody said a word to him about his black eye and battered face.
Pudgey, that "grounded" aspect of the movie that resonates with you is really one of the deeper message of the movie. Consumerism, capitalism, male mental health, the distance and emptiness in the modern day life. It's something we all feel, but ironically it takes someone with insomnia to be able to see it clearly.
male mental health that ISN'T the toxicity represented by "Tyler", just to be clear.
Yeah it would take someone so "far away" from themselves/their mind to see things "clearer" cause they have begun to separate from their regular, usual, everyday Self. Sort of a "ego death" type of thing through Insomnia.
@@hadesmcfadden2982 Cringy wokeist
@@hadesmcfadden2982nice avatar homie. 💪🏿
I left a large US metro area and ended up in KS where I hang out with Anabaptist people who live outside the modern world, it's so much more fulfilling. They have tight communities with few modern distractions, there is so much more humanity/community, they are happy with simple things, have no interest in consumerism/entertainment/distractions, it's how humans are meant to live. It's not all horse/buggy types, there are a spectrum of them, some use cars/smartphones, but everything is tightly regulated and minimized. The modern world leaves us so isolated/empty.
The Matrix and Fight Club were very successful movies that were released in the same year and questioned the reality of our lives in different ways. During the same period, Dark City, The Truman Show, The Thirteenth Floor were other successful movies that questioned reality. The reason why all these movies were released in 1998 and 1999 was the concerns that humanity had about its own lives and the fate of the world as it entered the new millennium.
Dark city, oh I forgot about that one. I need to go watch that again. Thanks for this
Thanks for the list.. I haven't seen the last three but heard great things about the Truman show
So much so that at least a couple incidents of murders & suicides occurred during this time period. Wild
Yeah, many people believed at that time frame, that the world would end in the year 2,000 and the internet and computers would stop working and it would create major Chaos. Many people ended their lives due to this paranoia of those times.
@@benjaminborrero1022 it wasn't many, it was a very few paranoid individuals.
Mid to late 90s have the best films.
1999 was a hell of a year. You can look it up
I'd say 90s in general
Something about those days ... I don't know, the whole decade was wild in a way that is hard to describe, you had to be there ...
@@DogmeatDied989 It was the first great year to pirate movies off the internet.
Pretty much. The industry stopped trying after the 90s.
“Wild scenarios.” That one happened in real life. Lorena Bobbit cut her husband’s off, went for a drive, and threw it out her car window. It was a big enough news story that they referenced it in this movie like 10 years later.
I think your statement is missing the word "dick."
The glicthes in your video are fitting for the theme of the video!
Seriously. When I first noticed it, I thought it was an intentional edit! lol
@@MrEnvisioner They ARE intentional edits. What do you think that the video is just randomly glitching like that? Those are called video effects. Bro thought it's a glitch in the Matrix lol 😂
Michael Lee Aday, the actor playing Robert Paulson, is better known by his stage name, Meatloaf (RIP). He was a classically trained singer and Grammy Award winner who sold millions of albums. As an actor he appeared in many films including "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."
And then he became antivaxx and covid killed him.
His name is Robert Paulson.
His name was Robert Paulson
.... in death members of project mayhem have a name...
His name was Michael Lee Aday. R.I.P.
Spartan, you're proof the movie accomplished exactly what it set out to do. Mental illness can be hard to empathize with and the movie did a great job conveying the disconnect and process of information a malfunctioning brain might experience.
As someone who had a traumatic brain injury and has lived with post-concussion syndrome for 4 years now: YES. Disconnect and difficulty processing information is something I experience (along with insomnia and a bunch of other symptoms) and it has been incredibly hard for some of the people in my life to understand or even just respect. I haven't done any of the things Tyler Durden does in the movie, but still I lost most of my friends since the initial accident. 🤷♀
I feel like the mental health aspect of the story isn't often brought up, so I'm glad you did! If the doctor at the beginning had taken "Jack"'s pleas for help more seriously, so much suffering could have been avoided.
1999 is considered one of the best years for film. You could put up the rest of the iconic 1999 films on a poll and it would be a close battle
Spartan's reactions are exactly why this movie was such a hit and is now a classic. I encourage you to watch some video essays analyzing the themes and meaning of the film, it's powerful stuff.
it’s definitely a movie you have to go back and watch a second time, you’ll pick up on SO much, like the line where he’s beating himself up in his boss’ office where he says “for some reason I thought of my first fight with Tyler”, and Bobs line when they see each other in the street, “I heard he only sleeps one hour a night”
And why Bob didn't recognize him as Tyler, because he'd only heard the name from someone else (Narrator was "Cornelius" to him)
And then there's the whole rabbit hole of Edward Norton escaping the crashed vehicle from the driver's side, the valet driver looking at Norton when he calls him "Mr. Durden" (who then looks at Pitt and says, "After _you_ Mr. Durden")
My personal favorite is the 3-way conversation between Narrator and Marla: On first viewing, the audience thinks she's talking about herself and Tyler, and that Narrator is talking about himself and Tyler. On second viewing, you realize she's talking about herself and Narrator, and Narrator's reference to "us" outside of himself and Marla is confusing to her, hence why she gets curious and Tyler has to shut the conversation down. But the conversation works both times, when you realize everyone's reference frame.
You used to be able to press “*69” on a phone and you could call back the phone number that called you (before caller ID and “missed call” lists made this obsolete). Hence the calling back on pay phone (though in the movie’s case, it was all in his head anyway haha).
Actually there's an easter egg on the phone itself, the little sign says it can't accept incoming calls.
Yeah, he subconsciously had to hang up, or else he'd risk a real person answering and interrupting his ability to talk to himself unabated through the charade...
I think they were confused because while that works in America, it doesn't in Australia - our public phones couldn't be called back
Brad Pitt was also in another Quentin Tarantino movie y'll might like, "Inglorious Basterds" 👍
And Once Upon a Time in Hollywood as well
You're both 2000s kids. Fuck me, I'm old.
are they 2000s? i was born 96 i look younger than spartan haha
Right, I should have finished college in 2000
@@anatos1722there are actual studies based on the topic of why Gen Z is aging faster than Millennials.
@@wiseguy01 why
Gen Z age horribly. I'm in my late 30s and I look younger than them
Helena Bonham Carter was unfamiliar with exactly what ages Grade School would entail when the "I haven't been fucked like that since Grade School" line came up, and assumed it was the equivalent of high school. Grade School in America typically tops out at 8th grade, or a maximum of 13-14 years old. Carter was absolutely disgusted when she learned that.
Even better, the original line was supposed to be "I want to have your abortion" but the studio made them change it.
Didnt the studio ask Fincher to change it back after they heard the line about grade school or something like that?
Also, in my head, grade school ends after 6th grade, but I realize it varies depending on the region.
@@xtldc Yes, Fincher made a deal with the execs to change it, then changed it to something worse, and refused to change it back to the Abortion line lol
Younger than that. 8th grade is middle school. Grade school tops out at 6th grade.
Yeah, the studio made him change it, but he made the deal that they had to stick with whatever he changed it to. And that's kind of a wild deal to make, considering the source material. If you're replacing "I want to have your abortion", you have GOT to be worried about what the alternative is going to be hahah.
So yeah, he changed it and wouldn't change it back because a deal is a deal!
(Also: Carter first found out because she kept hearing everyone snicker on set when she said it. She asked why people were laughing and then they explained it to her. She was especially embarrassed at the premier, where her parents attended. That dishwashing glove... 😂☠)
I think it's a great line. With one line, you're like, oh, that's why she's messed up.
With a single line.
Of course, the reality of it is awful.
I am Jack's thumbs up!
I am Jack's approval of the thumbs up!
I’m just jack
This is one of those movies that completely changes when you rewatch it. You caught one of the biggest clues: the payphone. If you look closely, you can see a sticker on it that says "This phone does not accept incoming calls." There's so many little moments that you don't catch until you watch it again.
Required Brad Pitt watching: Snatch by Guy Ritchie
snatch is good but lock stocks better
Se7en... Another Brad-Fincher combo with Morgan Freeman.
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Legends of the Fall is my biggest guilty pleasure movie
@@misterisak - But Brad Pitt isn't in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
11:27 You 100% can call a public phone. Once I was in a shopping centre and one of those Telstra payphones just started ringing. I picked it up and thought I was about to star in my own movie!
Turned out to be someone who missed a call from the phone and were returning the call.
The number is normally written somewhere on the phone
On this particular phone in the movie, there's a sticker that says it doesn't accept incoming calls... but in plenty of other movies (e.g. Heat), a person who wishes to be anonymous would call a known line (e.g. a company line and ask for a specific manager/employee), give them the number of the payphone, and then hang up and wait for a call back.
There's a whole movie on that premise, called "Phone Booth".
Wow spartan getting the Glitch at 4:51, kudos.
Yeah, I watched this movie multiple times before i picked up on that.
“Silence of the Lambs” won’t hurt your brain. Lol. Huge award winning thriller.
"You met me at a very strange time in my life" as they hold hands gets me every time.
Queue, where is my mind. Fucking brilliant!
Always sounds to me, as if they're talking to the audience - if you subscribe to the Marla being another personality theory
His Name Was Robert Paulsen!
To make Robert Paulsen, first we render Estrogen.
"His name was Robert Paulson"
Hi name was Michael Lee Aday.
R.I.P.
His name was tiddy mcgee
His name was Robert Paulsen!
the plot twist at the end still gives me chills to this very day
People listened back then and obeyed the first rule You Don't Talk About Fight Club. The twist like The Sixth Sense wasn't talked about and everyone found out from viewing. Back when spoilers were a lot less common.
@@tonyrandall4364 yep
11:28 - This particular "wild scenario" was a very famous true case in the 90s and a reference that anyone who was an adult then would immediately understand.
A lot of us who were kids too. I was like 7 years old when that happened, and it was like a foundational moment in life lol.
this movie is a criticism of capitalism and social commentary about masculinity and philosophical ideas surrounding this topic. I'm sure there are some UA-cam essays that will explain better than i do
Different “C”. You mean it’s using modern ideas criticizing Consumerism, where it’s striking at the ideas created by it, for example the idea of defining the self by consumption “You’re not your F-ing khakis.”
React to American history x
Shutter Island was directed by Martin Scorsese. Fight Club was directed by David Fincher who made The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Game, Gone Girl, Se7en, Zodiac, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Panic Room, among others, and more recently, The Killer on Netflix. He was also involved in the series Mindhunter on Netflix.
You forgot his best and favourite film, Alien cubed.
I had no clue he directed so many great films. Before he directed films he was a great music video director.
Fincher is a legendary director at this point, my favorites are Se7en and Fight club ofc which I consider absolute masterpieces, but I did also love The Game and mindhunter out of all of his work the most and most of the others were pretty decent too. The thing is, I think they have watched none of these. But hopefully they watch Se7en next. Its a new world for them, so I guess Fight club was a good choice to check out this director for the first time.
This movie is basically for Gen-X and early millennials, though it applies to everyone who came after as well. It's about consumerism, the lie capitalism has sold people in pursuit of profit, and how it has stolen our futures. It's a commentary on depression, and hopelessness, and it's wrapped in irony about as thick as it gets. Brad Pitt standing on a bus pointing at an underwear model "Is that what a man looks like?", and Brad Pitt is literally the movie star of all movie stars, and more attractive than any male model.
It was bad for us Gen-X'ers, because we were bombarded with all that consumer shit in the 80s and 90s and eventually a generation of men grew up realizing we were not, in fact, going to be rich and successful as Durden says at one point. For baby millennials like you two, Spartan and Pudgey, young millennials and zoomers? You poor buggers never had a chance. We only had to deal with television, radio, and movies growing up. You have had to deal with that nonsense via social media that has been pumped directly into your lives since you were pretty much born.
This is honestly, for people of a certain age, one of the most impactful, and important social commentaries in the form of a movie ever made.
A lot of people think the movie is about fighting. It isn't. The fighting is window dressing to a movie talking about a deep seated pathological depression and isolation, brought on by the pursuit of run away consumerism, that many of us didn't really identify until we were much older. This is a movie worth watching a second time, because the entire movie becomes WAY clearer, and the REAL message hits WAY harder when you already know the big secret.
I wholeheartedly agree with your comment.
Well said!
this movie *is* my early twen years. watching this, me and my friend, drinking vodka together, is the essence of my youth. long time ago…
I think Fight Club was the first DVD that I had ever purchased. At 16 I was expecting something like Mortal Combat. Boy was I wrong. The movie struck a chord with me because I didn't like the materialistic world we grew up in.
And yet it also warns that those looking for an alternative individualism can also become an unhealthy cult.
Pudgey did well w the car accident scene. Glad to see it as i realized that scene was upcoming...progress
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@@pfang32 Good work Pudgey. I see you are getting better at coping with car crash visuals. Good on you girl. -------- Soon you'll have enjoy strength to take on the Bourne trilogy, Ronin and the French Connection. They have some of the best car chase scene ever made.
For me personally, this is the greatest movie ever made. The Dark Knight is a close second.
Definitely in my top 5. I recommend 12 Monkeys. I hope it's in your queue.
In general the 90s were very optimistic. The Iron Curtain had fallen, World war III was no longer a fear, several regimes were replaced by democracies, virtual reality was a hype (and stayed that), if you were young you were raving at a houseparty, the US had a young president with a teen daughter and the internet was promising to connect the entire world together.
This movie was a cynical antidote to that.
@Spartan I'm actually a insomniac and I can tell you his description is amazing the monotonous drone of it all running together is the worst
Spartan throwing shade on movies of the late 90's saying the quality wasn't there. Damn.
Really? had no idea he ever said that.
One of the most misunderstood films of all time. It’s about cult mentalities and toxic masculinity. So many men became Tyler Durden fanboys after this movie came out when he’s supposed to be an obvious manipulative psycho. Kind of like how The Wolf of Wall Street was misunderstood.
32:10 every time this scene comes up and the younger reactors don't catch up that they're erasing the VHS tapes reminds me of how old I'm even though I'm not even 30 yet lol
We had VHS tapes, just didn't know that's what they were doing 😅
People im the early 2000s still had vhs tapes
Don’t Talk about it 🤫
About what? 🤣
You know what 😂
Yes, nothing.
That's right... First Rule 🚫💬👊
Growing up in the 90s, I can confirm that the culture references in this movie are real. For instance *69 and *67 were used often with phones and you could literally call back any phone that had just called you including payphones. When Tyler mentions the possibility of a chopped off penis thrown out a car, that was current news back then.
The Silence of the Lambs is a perfect movie. I put Agent Starling up there with Sarah Connor and Ripley. Glad you're gonna get to it.
“Loosing all hope is freedom”
Ridding oneself of hope is one of the most freeing things you can do.
You will notice the "no shirt no shoes" rule did not fully apply for Bob.
I feel like Spartan is going to react to this film in a special kind of way.
This film made many in my generation question the meaning of what it is to be a man, something that many of us didn’t put too much time into before.
Yes, people have survived botched suicide attempts like that. Depending upon aim, the bullet can pass through the cheeks, jaw, or exiting out around the ear. You usually end up deaf and in need of major reconstructive surgery in order to use your jaw again.
My dad survived it. Took out most of his frontal lobe and he is now living blissfully ignorant of how many lives he ruined through the years.
Dumb irish luck.
@@freerangegirl4457 hey, watch it! The Irish need all the luck we can get.
Wow, these UA-cam hall monitors really are a bunch of 🐩🐩.
You guys are too normal for this movie
"The dude in the back just buckling up..."
The car crash is one of the funniest scenes in hindsight. Tyler is up front arguing with himself while driving dangerously, but 'self-portait' and 'build a house' only say "In Project Mayhem we do not ask questions!" when 'narrator' speaks, but answer Tyler immediately when he addresses them directly. Those guys are in so far over their heads that the fact they even buckle up is remarkable.
one of the greatest moments in all film is when Tyler is talking to YOU and the films starts to bend. He has gained so much power in the movie and on you that he is able to bend the film in the projector itself!
Hey Pudgey, I know you this is how you exited your last job to start UA-cam. Walk into your boss's office and pull off an Ed Norton-type exit pay compensation package. -------- Where you blackmail your boss with beating you up for not coding the correct sequence. ------ Then you'll be able to dedicate your time fully to the Concert circuit. --------- Woooo Hoooo. That's how Pudgey got her first affiliate partnership.
Welcome to the world of David Fincher. Watch all of his meticulously crafted films.
I love the ending so damn much. It's perfect. Fincher is in the top three directors of all time. He gathers some of the greatest teams of all time as well.
This movie has the best replay value ever. Its gets so much better every time you watch it, and you pick up on all the subtle clues and dialogue that they drop. My favorite parts of the movie is when they break the fourth wall and tell you information and facts that seem crazy but they’re trying to point out the illusion of corporations and powerful people out of reach of normal life telling you what you need to do or buy and what the meaning of our lives are and what we’re worth. The people always have power but people were raised to not be free thinkers, so most accept the lives of mundanity.
The Chinese Government changed the ending for their local version. Just before the buildings explode it cuts to a screen of text saying the Chinese equivalent of "Through the clues provided by Tyler, the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all the criminals, successfully preventing the bombs from exploding. After the Trial Tyler was sent to the lunatic asylum and received psychological treatment. He was discharged from hospital in 2012."
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There are two ways to change the world, through order or through chaos. Tyler is an agent of chaos.
- The initial flashes during the beginning of the movie were all Tyler (wearing his iconic red jacket) appearing to Jack. They were all before they've officially "met" on the plane. It's the early stages of Jack finally visually imagining Tyler. The penis flash at the end is just a meta-joke to the audience.
- At the final scene Jack intentionally (or maybe accidently) shot himself in the cheek and jaw at the end but he made Tyler believe he shot himself in the head. The shock and the trauma of believing he's dying made Tyler cease to exist, similar to you'd pass out in a near-death shock moment, like an automobile accident but because Tyler doesn't have the control of the physical side now, he never woke up from that shock.
- Yeah, the brief story is; people have seen Jack beating himself up and probably talking to himself like he was two different people. they've probably initially stayed to watch a crazy man doing a funny crazy thing. But then, they were amazed by his ideology, his ability to not care about anything, his ability to risk everything, his ability to not care at all, his limitless freedom so to speak... They might have thought this guy is not afraid to even beat the shit out of himself up because he was angry to himself for being such a materialist man dependng on money, possessions, meaningless society roles, etc for a long time... They were all feeling the same struggles and they've decided to follow this man to the end.
- People seemed to interact with both of them througout the movie because they really did. But it was physically the same person for them all the time. Jack just sometimes imagined Tyler having those conversations with other people and he's just watching or hearing that but physically he was doing the interaction; he was speaking, he was fighting... About the Bob joining the cult at the porch; he (as Tyler) sent Bob away, but when Bob was leaving, he (as Jack himself) went back to Bob and told him about the conditionsn and encouraged him to stay. To Bob, the same person did both sent him away and also brought him back just after. He probably thought "Oh, this Tyler dude, what a brilliant, eccentric man..." because he was already under his spell.
- On that note; it's funny the only person dead we know is Bob, and he is the only person we know who wouldn't be a part of Project Mayhem, if he was truly fully subjected to Tyler's elimination criteria. According to Tyler the applicant should have stayed at the porch for 3 days without food, shelter or ENCOURAGEMENT. He was tipped off by Jack about Tyler's expectations which is a huge ENCOURAGEMENT.
- If there's one movie you should watch more than one time, it's Fight Club. Every time you see it, you'll realize minor details leading to the twist or some other cool details or ideas.
Here is a tip : Watch the movie two times more this year them watch it again every 4th year. With your life experiences, you ALWAYS get new angels on this movie and they are such a high every time you get them.
Also, I think this move always will be relevant in any part of the world.
Much love too you both
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It's funny how so many people don't understand the first rule of fight club. It's meant to be broken
Yeah, and it’s a bit of a subtle difference. The first rule (and repeated as the second) is the only rule that concerns behavior outside of Fight Club.
No it's not!!?!! 😟
first rule is dont tell scotty, second rule is dont spoil the movie to others, third layer is talk about mental health
Guess I was the only one who thought the glitches were Spartan and Pudgey’s intentional re-creation or their version of the “red flashes” lol
I kept thinking this too lmao
I would have thought so too until the audio kept doing it independently from the visual glitches
This was directed by David Fincher he's made some other great movies worth reacting to if you havent seen them. Se7en, Gone Girl, Zodiac, The Social Network, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Spartan gets alot of credit for following a very convoluted plot and figuring it out!😊
Apparently there is a theory that Marla is also a character only existing in "Jack"'s mind. At first I dismissed it with contempt, thinking that it was a really stupid idea, but the more I think about it in context of the movie, the more sense it makes, albeit deeply troubling.
Its a stupid theory that only stupid people believe
I will absolutely love the edit guys; the use of the “switching of the reels” scratchy cut was pretty clever. 👍
Glad you liked it!
"How is he dressed so sharp if he lives in a dump?"
Good question, Spartan. 😁
And the answer is: his clothes don't even exist. 🤯
"How do you look at that, and then wanna be next?"
Good question, Pudgey. 😁
And the answer is... well... that the guy is even more f'ed up than you thought, since he was looking at a guy hitting himself and asked if he could hit him, too. 🤣
I never noticed Brad's character flashing in @4:52 before. That's a trip.
Love that shot at 40:42. It's a POV of Tyler as his left hand fights with his right hand for control of the steering wheel, but because it's so quick we assume the other hand belongs to the guy in the passenger seat. But of course there is no guy in the passenger seat.
How many time can one say “what’s going on?” In one movie…. Let’s find out! lol
This classic inspired one of my favorite tv series ever, Mr. Robot. It was an underrated masterpiece. It's Fight Club but taking the themes and psychological/mental aspects in a more serious and mature tone.
This was the first R rated movie I saw in the cinema (turned 18 2 months before it released) - and it blew my mind, even though I'd read the book when my uncle gave it to me a couple years earlier. The look of it, the editing, the brilliance of the screenplay, the performances, the soundtrack - just everything.
Fun fact: the book this is adapted from has a... different... ending - enough so that there are two comic runs by the author to continue his version (Fight Club 2 & 3) - also awesome.
I'm impressed that Spartan was sensing the relationship between Tyler and the anonymous narrator earlier than most people.
Ever think you'd like BELLATRIX LESTRANGE? Peak Brad Pitt popularity came with LEGEND OF THE FALL. Gotta watch that
Saw this in the theater when it came out in 1999. I was 22 years old. Before smart phones, social media, 9/11. What a time to be alive.
Why the audio glitchy at times? Was this on purpose to mess with our heads? Y’all are sick!
Spartan: 'The penis again... but what does it mean?'
My favourite line of the reaction
- Sigmund Freud, probably
Troy is an amazing movie. And Spartan would absolutely LOVE IT
@@danilogroening3311 Troy is fire. Spartan brain might explode for that one
Amazing film! A Fincher masterpiece, Gone Girl and Se7en are also amazing! :)
Omg I need more of Pudgey’s hearty laugh ! 😂
Saw this in theatres when first released. Has seen many movies in my life and majority of Brad Pitt's work. 90s was definitely his heyday. Always funny to see people especially younger watch a movie later on. Next to Seven think its David Fincher's best film.
The behind the scenes of the special effects peeps working on the lipo scene is priceless 😂
On a rewatch, my favorite clue was just after the car crashed. Tyler climbs out of the passenger side and drags Jack out of the driver's side.
This whole movie is about how people can join cults. It just takes one very charismatic leader that says things that sound wise and profound to get you to do their bidding.
"oooh naaaaauuurr 😭😭" - Pudgey 2024
Another awesome movie reaction, Spartan and Pudgey.
Other Brad Pitt movies you should react to are Fury, Kalifornia
Seven, Troy, Bullet Train, Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Twelve, Ocean's Thirteen, The Departed, Thelma and Louise, World War Z, Interview With the Vampire, Legends of the Fall, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, A Rivers Rubs Through It, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.
There is no brad pitt in the departed
I don't know about the book, but I like to think it was the few human connections made as Jack that saved him from diving completely into being Tyler. He met Bob and Marla as his normal everyday self. When Bob almost left the porch he didn't want his one genuine friend to leave, especially with Tyler leaving him out of quite a bit at that point. Marla literally becomes his "power animal" at one point. And when Bob dies because of his assignments, he really starts to snap out of it. This is one of those movies I notice more details every time. No wonder your brain feels fried after picking up enough details to fill my first five viewings.
This film is the symbol of the "Grunge movment" in movie.
You have to do ALL the Silence of the Lambs if you do the first one...ALL excellent and will keep you hooked 👍🔥🔥🔥
Its actually crazy that you guys hadn't seen this either. Cheers great choice. I will say this imagine a year when you can finally see on the cinemas these : The Matrix, LOTR and Fight Club. Dark city - an insanely good sci-fi film also released just a little bit earlier than all of these. For me the best few years by far for modern cinema and some of us were just around 18 at the time. That was the late 90s to the early 00s. Mindblowing years. A new age of cinema.
Real "fight clubs" started popping up in random places soon after this film was released. My older brother used to run one and it was so weird that they got people of all ages just needing an escape from normal life
Hands down my favorite movie. Every time I watch it I find something new. First time I watched this movie my brain melted. Melted.
Shoutout to the paetron for making sure silence of the lambs got its due. One of my all time favorites.
11:27 Lorena Bobbit. That's the scenario he is referring to. She did this in 1993.
Yall don't recognize "marla" from Harry Potter?
This is one of those movies you just sit back and enjoy the ride not knowing where this movie will take you. They don't make many movies like this anymore. You can't predict what will happen next.
"Ok. You are now firing a gun at your imaginary friend, NEAR 400 GALLONS OF NITROGLYCERIN!"
I like that these guys are watching movies out of their comfort zone.
Can't wait to see their minds blown. Easily a top 10 movie of all time.
My minds just been blown that they didn’t instantly recognise Meat Loaf. 🤯
What movie? There's no movie. I don't know what you're talking about. I just stared into a black screen for an hour.
@@horsepower523 might’ve been blocked by UA-cam since it was first uploaded. 🤷♂️
@@davidmunro546 Nah bro I was actually trying to make a joke about people not being allowed to talk about Fight Club because of the first rule lol.
A rewatch will yield a lot of clues to the plot.
The "flashes" were Brad Pitt posing in the scene in single-frames of the movie.
My favorite - the call-back on the pay phone. As the camera zooms in on the phone, you can see a label that says "no return calls." In other words, the phone wasn't set up to receive calls. The call from the ring to the end was all in his head.
Lastly, there's a theory that rewatches can't disprove: That Marla was also in his head and that the threeway relationship was a schizophrenic war between the broken masculine and broken feminine of the Narrator's mind.