(Rank 2 Player's Perspective) Discussing Issues With EA FC 25 - Part 2

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @_christianooo_
    @_christianooo_ Місяць тому +1

    @23:35 that’s a great idea actually, if they focus the pay aspect towards cosmetics and customization like the game The Finals that would be sick. I would definitely pay for different versions of Adidas cleats and/or soccer jerseys for my players.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@_christianooo_ 100% , would be miles healthier for the game & the entire player base. It’s a shame EA chose to go down the path that they’ve gone

  • @user-ew6ke4oy3w
    @user-ew6ke4oy3w Місяць тому +4

    You've nailed it here, subbed. It is insane to me that in the modern games the skill gap comes from abusing mechanics as opposed to quick passing and fluid football. Fair enough people used to say the game was too quick and unrealistic, but how is this remotely any better? What we have now literally isn't even football anymore, its just an objectively terrible game. Im similar to you where im an okay div 1/2 player but i've decided not to play anymore this year despite getting decent results in WL the past few weekends, because its not possible to play the game how i enjoy and when i step back, i dont even enjoy the game when i win so literally whats the point.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +1

      100%, this isn't any better, it's worse lol.
      And I respect that, it takes a lot of self-awareness to decide if something isn't worth engaging in any more.
      In fact, I think I should talk about this on my other channel (which is now the actual EA FC channel).
      I haven't made the video yet explaining the reasons why I personally still play, and the reasons why someone genuinely should not play.
      Much appreciated, mate
      If you still want to hear any rants from me even though you've moved on from the game, consider checking my other channel
      Otherwise, all the best to you, brother

    • @user-ew6ke4oy3w
      @user-ew6ke4oy3w Місяць тому

      That would be super interesting to hear another perspective on that actually I think. A lot of people can disassociate from the competitiveness of the game and enjoy it that way but I find it forces it down your throat so much these days and there is so much research etc. they've put in to feeding people's addictions, that it's really difficult to find balance in that respect and not just become hyper fixated on results/ rewards rather than just having fun. I've played FIFA on and off for a long time now and FIFA is such a strange game where a lot of the player base genuinely seem to get no enjoyment out of playing the game and actively hate it at times but still play it? Anyway I'll definitely still be watching content in the hope some miracle patch fixes the game but I'm not holding my breath 😂. Saw you have a EA FC channel so I've subbed there too - all the best

  • @B-seen_35
    @B-seen_35 Місяць тому +7

    Listened to this while losing my mind in champs, back to back losses off of rebounds, horrible AI, scripting... Each iteration gets worse and worse. Doesn't matter if you get VvD , Saliba, Maldini, every once in a blue moon it feels like EA decides who gets advantage. Lost to the 2 worst players in the world cuz I tackle at the right moment. Finishing this WL and uninstalling this game. The sounds my body produces while playing this game makes me sound like Mikey Mouse that's supposed to be locked in a mental asylum. When gameplay is good and responsive it's addicting but now it's really straining on my mental health for the 3rd weekend league. Played this franchise since 2000 and honestly I should get help for never playing this game ever again. Thanks for your rant it chilled me out a bit and reminds me im not the only one. Much love

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +2

      @@B-seen_35 100%, Actually this year is the first I’ve seen where it is common for an entire group of in-game players to literally shut off, leading to an open-goal turnover lol.
      It’s completely insane that a company who’s made this game for 25+ years has it in this state
      Question, do you always play WL right away on Fridays? I wonder how bad the servers are at that time, possibly compounding these issues
      Also, I definitely support the idea of reducing how seriously we take this game, & even winning (coming from someone who arguably cares too much about winning)
      Genuinely glad my rant brings a bit of peace to you💪

    • @B-seen_35
      @B-seen_35 Місяць тому +2

      @@FITNerdLife Usually yes I bust out all games on Friday. Sometimes finish then Sunday night
      I even played when it was 40 games back in the day and honestly that was bad but nowhere near as bad as these past 2 years.
      I edge elite but I tend to play with passion players from my farmers league team PSV, to at least make it more fun. But in the end, meta or not. I want to love this game, but its definitely a toxic love hate relationship.
      My 2 cents on this, throughout the years, is hoping for things to improve. Only to find out that the game is beyond F**** and we're trying to ressurect a dead horse.
      Just take draft for example. 10 years of 0 innovation. the dude who made it probably got sacked and made nothing compared to the revenue it made for the company. It's a scummy industry. Venting and ranting relieves but solves nothing, cause apparently it's true that there's no such thing as bad PR as long as people talk about it. They want you on that emotional rollercoaster to experience those emotions cause thats whats gets us hooked. They'll never fix it. It's 100% intended.
      Feel like talking about this is like going to an AA meeting lmao, it helps though thanks

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +2

      @@B-seen_35 you are 100% right. It is a toxic love / hate relationship, the game is beyond f*cked, it is a lost in that regard
      And it does feel a lot better discussing it versus not discussing it lol
      I believe there is a way to (relatively speaking) enjoy this game, and that’s what I want to ultimately do through this content for us who share these thoughts.
      You’re 100% right, and yes it does feel like an AA meeting lol

    • @B-seen_35
      @B-seen_35 Місяць тому +1

      @@FITNerdLife I appreciate the listening ear. You got my sub. This franchise leeches of love for football and the fantasy of building our own ULTIMATE team.
      Funny how I could get behind this franchise if it was not predatory focused on our wallets but a fun experience instead.
      I got hooked on Apex too and it's so clear that EA took that fun experience and turned it into a cash cow they're milking until it dies, instead of building on adding onto the FUN aspect of the game and just pump out more hostile predatory micro transactions.
      Like how they basically eliminate the fun silver players, the Ibarbo's and the Doumbias you could run for an entire cycle and still manage to win and have fun. Now it's focused on FOMO and crank up the power curve as fast as they can so you'll want to keep up. As a grown man, this game can get me on the point of crying my eyes out - there is nothing like it.
      If it were not for the primary love and passion for the real life footy, this game would have bled out .
      I look forward to your next hot take on the game in a video, if you want a discussion of sorts you're more than welcome to add me on discord or something.
      Much love brother

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +1

      @@B-seen_35 you’re again 100% correct, EA took advantage of people’s joy of real life football
      We’ll be communicating for sure
      I don’t use Discord much but let’s see if that changes in the future
      I appreciate you mate🤜🤛

  • @FCCOLLEGEYT
    @FCCOLLEGEYT Місяць тому +1

    It's hard to play on high ping....
    Great video bro, keep it up!

  • @azgardian32odinson
    @azgardian32odinson 21 день тому

    I’m an elite player and every other fifa and a consistent elite 3-2 player… I’ve quit this game already and gone to call of duty I will wait for a decent patch to bring back either skill moves or left stick dribbling you cannot move in this game! It’s unplayable

  • @JoshuaThomas-y9d
    @JoshuaThomas-y9d 22 дні тому +1

    Biggest issues are:
    R1 press/defending (including double tap R1)/AI defending.
    RNG from tackles/keepers parrying shots into paths of players.
    The finesse/triv meta (again) 20-40 yard out 95% of the time.
    P2W - any micro transactions in any game should be DLC/Cosmetic only.
    All of this is to close the skill gap. Lesser players do not like skill gap as they get beat 100% of time by the better player as comp games should be (they cried about it before and then FRIENDLIES got made into SBMM to appease them, its a FRIENDLY in a non competitive mode there should be no SBMM). Ea need to accept theres going to be a skill gap in any game that is competitive. If that upsets the worse players then so be it, unfortunately thats how competitive games work hence divisions. Make defending more manual, i mean theres 2 aspects to football which is attack and defend and currently the AI is doing one for you, essentially like playing a FPS and the game aimbotting for you leaving you to only press shoot.
    I hear every word your saying but unfortunately until the player base declines they wont listen to fans.... they never have.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  21 день тому +1

      @@JoshuaThomas-y9d indeed this game’s ’skill gap’ is based on the worst possible version of skill gap mechanics possible in a competitive game

  • @SA-so9qs
    @SA-so9qs Місяць тому +2

    RNG is definitely the #1 issue in this game right now. I like that you actually used that term too so many people in the fifa community have no clue what I mean when I say that. But yeah, every single game is rebound and corner header simulator. Very small skill gap when you add the fact that one person can have smooth gameplay and the other person not so much depending on what platform they're on.
    I play on 30 ping and the game is completely unresponsiveness during content time.
    And agreed, the game is so unrewarding when you actually try to complete rivals and champs. Nice first owner Son btw

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@SA-so9qs 100%, I agree. I appreciate your insight brother. & thanks, I got some lucky pulls TBH. I haven’t done a single Player SBC yet, lol! I do every TOTW & limited (ie. 80+ x5) upgrade, & all challenges / Marquee Matchups (I like the puzzles anyway). But still need some luck (separate issue TBH)

  • @BacșiMotivație
    @BacșiMotivație Місяць тому +3

    I experienced everything u mentioned in this video this wl.Played on 100 ping on average ( my ping in other games is around 30 ) , same for rivals.
    I am curious if you also experienced input delay or input not registering at all. For example you do a pass and it passes it after 2 seconds which makes u lose posession in key areas, left stick dribbling feeling worse than ever, awful first touches, delayed skill moves , unnecesary animations etc.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +1

      @@BacșiMotivație 100% there is input delay at times, even on 35-55 ping which is what I normally play at
      Also this AI is a big problem for real

    • @BacșiMotivație
      @BacșiMotivație Місяць тому +1

      @@FITNerdLife I player locked perfectly , pressed A to pass , didn't register . Passes with the CB to the RB, IT had delay and IT got intercepted and I conceded .
      This wl i got 7 wins while screaming and alomost crying.
      1 week ago, the previous wl I got 11 wins. I played much better this wl and also faced worse opponents this wl but bcs of rng, delay, lag and my goalkeeper making weird animations i got 4 less wins.
      I have to mention that the opponents i played were moslty much worse than me and i still lost to most of them.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +2

      @@BacșiMotivație I feel that, also I think it’s important to say that there is no game worth almost crying over at all
      Another commenter said something similar actually
      Don’t let this game affect you too much emotionally, it’s not worth it

  • @xteqr9434
    @xteqr9434 20 днів тому +1

    Bought my ps5 with EA fc 24 in october 23 sold it in September 24. I wasted 900 Hours of my life. I will Never buy a New gen console ever again. If i have Appetit to Play Fifa again I Go back on my jailbroken ps3 and Play FIFA 09-19. Happy to See that i did the Right Thing 😊

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  20 днів тому

      @@xteqr9434 100% lol, if you’re interested in hearing more in-depth calling out of FC 25 & EA, check my new channel ‘FUT Nerd Life’, would be happy to have you over there

  • @rodyjap-sam652
    @rodyjap-sam652 Місяць тому +2

    Finally another soul that speaks out about this trash game, next to inception almost no one says anything. I think it’s about 5 years ago that i said the same thing about the cosmetic side of the game. Look at fortnite and the likes, way better experiences for gamers.. but yeah EA will never listen. Thanks for the vid anyway!

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@rodyjap-sam652 you were way ahead of your time, my friend

    • @rodyjap-sam652
      @rodyjap-sam652 Місяць тому +2

      @@FITNerdLife hahah thanks brother. Yeah it’s like pro clubs, always thought it would be really nice to edit your players hair, boots and all that kind of stuff and make that a micro-transaction. But let’s first focus on all the stuff they need to improve on this game.. rather than cosmetics.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@rodyjap-sam652 For sure! Thanks for the input brother💪

  • @FITNerdLife
    @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +2

    Which issues do you think are the most fundamental to the EA FC Franchise?

    • @jmiyagi12345
      @jmiyagi12345 28 днів тому +1

      Being able to customize created teams is huge. Even if the delivery method was clunky, you could do it in PES a decade and a half ago. They have the suite for Madden and CFB, why not FC where we can create teams the same way?
      Some goofy glitches (like the standings being all a white screen on 64 team tournaments) are things that should just not happen ever. Something easy to test for.
      Also, if you have the UCL with the new format, how about that format being an option when creating your own tournament? Or letting you use any team in the tournament?
      The lack of national teams (only 29) is off putting. Can’t even run a proper WC. And the lack of representation is just baffling. One team from South America, I think?
      I try not to judge the game off the online component (no issues playing AI), but the above stuff are just a few things that while mostly minor make me scratch my head.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  28 днів тому +1

      @@jmiyagi12345 I feel you, brother. Sometimes, it's about the simple things that we've just come to accept are missing components. I think people overlook some of the things you've pointed out.
      And those types of game modes you're suggesting, especially if they were able to force some variety in team selection, would bring something new to the game.
      Thanks for your input, mate.
      Much love
      (PS, in case you're interested in sharing further insights, my 2nd channel is now the dedicated channel to FC 25 / FUT / non-fitness content, so if you want, check the links I've left in description / recent vids to sub there. I like your input & will likely factor input like that into future video discussions on that channel)

  • @Cyber-Mario
    @Cyber-Mario Місяць тому +2

    100-200 ping! WTF! My ping is always between 10-25 ping! Unfortunately I suck at this game. I wouldn’t even play this game online if my ping was that high.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@Cyber-Mario Lol! I don’t actually play on 100-200 ping, but very frequently, especially in WL, EA tries to put me in matches where my ping is 100-200+😂
      I’ll only actually play if it’s below about 55 ping
      Mostly 35-55 ping
      Really wonder what the difference would be for me at 10-25!
      If you stick around (find my videos linking my 2nd channel, that’s where the rest of the EA FC 25 content will be from now on), I hope to help people get better at the game, & also dive deeper into different aspects of it.
      I think you might like one of my vids there, it’s about player locking, green timing, & skill moves💪

    • @jmiyagi12345
      @jmiyagi12345 28 днів тому +1

      I only ever play online for the sake of Evolutions. Never on Friendlies and never on EVO Arena. If the requirement is to WIN one of those online modes, I don’t even bother with that evolution LOL
      After 4 quick goals where their guys seemed to just outrun any of my defenders (the game just before didn’t seem to be the case) I just started passing the ball in the back. Why deal with the headache.

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  28 днів тому

      @@jmiyagi12345 Lol! Yeah I can see why Evo’s are appealing especially for P&P’s

  • @spinerinho
    @spinerinho Місяць тому +1

    solid video

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@spinerinho Much appreciated🙏

  • @BacșiMotivație
    @BacșiMotivație Місяць тому +3

    26:11i did swear enough for you

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому +1

      @@BacșiMotivație lol🙏

  • @Scotty80C
    @Scotty80C Місяць тому +1

    Variety! Removing weather and having champs be the exact same stadium every time makes everything monotonous. They can't even code where the net color changes at the away stadium lol. Little things like that would make it each game atleast feel a tiny bit different.
    Also add a no tactic mode and see who wins. I'm here to play a soccer video game not teach the players where to go and how to play

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@Scotty80C It’s true, EA chooses to ignore countless, easy-to-implement details which would make a big difference to the players’ experience

  • @fitzgeraldyuhskunt
    @fitzgeraldyuhskunt 28 днів тому +1

    This is FC24 and no one can tell me differently. EA got y’all to buy the same game by simply updating FC24 and rereleasing it. They’re are making twice the money off of one game but playing to your addiction

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  28 днів тому +1

      @@fitzgeraldyuhskunt very fair (it’s actually much worse than 24, which was worse than FIFA 23 lol)

  • @pickrtfm
    @pickrtfm 13 днів тому

    HAVE TOdisagree wit this. the gameplay is ass but rewards are good and i make alot of coins not really packing anyone with div 1 rewards and rank 2/3 champs. and pay to win is at an all time low, i managed to buy cards like dalglish, charlton, cantona and sometimes i think alex morgan is better than all of them. icons have never been this inconsistent and bad, ever

  • @jeremyk3670
    @jeremyk3670 Місяць тому +1

    This game is pathetic trash garbage pinball trash

    • @FITNerdLife
      @FITNerdLife  Місяць тому

      @@jeremyk3670 Correct! Lol, certainly one way to put it