Comparison of Chinese built JF17 and USA's F16 Fighter jet.
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- Comparison of HAL Tejas and PAC JF 17 Thunder fighter jet
F16
The F-16 Fighting Falcon is an American-made, single-engine, supersonic, multi-role fighter aircraft that was first developed by General Dynamics for the United States Air Force (USAF). It started out as an air superiority day fighter but evolved into a successful all-weather multirole aircraft. In the years since production authorization in 1976, over 4,600 aircraft have been built.
Thunder JF-17
The PAC JF-17 Thunder CAC FC-1 Xiaolong is a lightweight, single-engine, fourth-generation. multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) and the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) of China. It was designed to replace the A-5C, F-7P/PG, Mirage III, and Mirage V combat aircraft in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). The JF-17 can be used for multiple roles, including interception, ground attack, anti-ship, and aerial reconnaissance. Its designation "JF-17" by Pakistan is short for "Joint Fighter-17", while the designation and name "FC-1 Xiaolong" by China means "Fighter China-1 Fierce Dragon".
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And top to top it all, no political strings attached, and no export restrictions from either China or Pakistan on JF-17, any country other than India or Israel, can acquire it. But F-16 has a heavy export related restrictions and limited capabilities and further threat of stopping spare parts by US, which is a clear disadvantage for F-16.
China made this trash 17 exclusivley FOR pakistan becoz beggar PAF cant afford future F16 block 70
Ask Myanmar on this JUNK 17 is grounded for years!!!
F16 can be remotely control by people in Washington. 😁😁
Chinese junk only has one prime customer which is paxtan.
Like india will even try to buy this glorified mig 21😂
Poor research, Combat range of jf 17 is 1200 km not 900km and ferry range is 3482km not 1800km. Current block is using RD-93MA and thrust of this is 9300 Kgf, Radar is latest KLJ-7A (V2) 200 km (for RCS of 5 m2). In JF17, PL15 long range missile is integrated with an impressive range from 145 km till 300km, depend on variants make this jet a very strong presence in front of his enemy.
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@@RoombaVR What he said is the truth and your comment doesn't make any sense.
it's an Ai generated video. what do you expect?
The stats are very close. F-16 carries more fuel but due to heavy weight it burns it much faster, and top speed is only 100+ MPH more, while JF-17 has greater Combat Range of almost 500 Nautical Miles, versus 300 Nmi, of F-16, so less its less costly to fly. And JF-17 costs almost 1/3 less than F-16, so even price wise, JF-17 is a clear winner.
Bunch of nonsense written here... Combat Radius of F-16 is 500nm (860km) JF-17 operational range is 1300km. Operational range or patrolling range vs Combat Radius are two different parameters. F-16 has operational range of 2000km which is double of that of JF-17. Lol
You seriously thing Pratt and Whitnney engine will burn fuel less efficiently than JF-17's RD-33 black smoke generator?😅
@@direwolf7491 RD-33 shows ur stupidity. outdate amerikun never win a real battle🤢 you just too bad luck.
absolute nonsense ... if Junk F17 is comparable to F16s, logically, why is the PLAAF not inducting these fighters. Secondly, if they are so close in combat configuration, why is the cash strapped Pakistani Airforce running after the US for more F16s of Chinese J10s? Just junk information made for Pakistani feel good sentiments😂
@@direwolf7491The JF-17 uses the RD-93 engine,not the RD-33.Ferry range is 1800 km with internal fuel and 3482 km with drop fuel tanks,while Combat range is 900 km with internal fuel and 1740 km with drop tanks.
@@GlobalArmTech RD-93 and RD-33 are practically the same engine. RD-93 is derived from RD-33.
Secondly, Do you know the difference between ferry range, combat range and combat radius?
You don't seem to since for JF-17 you wrote ferry range as 1800km while combat radius 900km
In comparison Tejas has ferry range of 3000km and combat radius of 500km
So something somewhere is wrong with your data right?
As indian I can say Pakistan is our offical father Pakistani tea is fantastic... love Pakistan from India 🇮🇳
And I am Pakistani I can say India is Father of Pakistan
but u endian call bharat mata now how can mata be father ???@@sngemar2664
I'm kashmiri and I want to join pak army
Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder Block 3 has overtaken the US's F-16
😂 it's chinas and secondly, it's sattu because one can't afford tea
@@KunalSawant875 its joint developed and Pakistan is known for serving tea. just google tea is fantastic.
@@munnumkhalid well I did Google for tea and it showed 93k surrendered soldiers removing pants after having tea,breakfast and some bruises
@@KunalSawant875 well last I checked 1971 was 50 years ago but just a couple of years ago china captured 1000s of sq km inside with only kicks as sticks. saw lot of videos of Indian elites troops bruised holding their ears as they were apologizing one of the most disgraceful surrender in modern history. I would recommend googling that too.
@@munnumkhalid Who told you china took 1000s of sq km? Do you know how much land that is? If China had entered 1000 sq kms they would have reached Delhi not stayed in Ladakh...
Matlab kuch bhi? 😅
Mathematics, geography school mein kia ya nhi?🤡
Also, you people read only half the news. I request you to search reports of Chinese media complaining about China having returned Indian prisoners as civilized nation, but India refused to return Chinese prisoners.
Do you know why India didn't return any of those prisoners??? Because they were all dead. 40 of them. Even Australian think tank US think tank reported that.
China knows what they are dealing with at the borders ok, so does your army.🤡
Combat range of jf 17 is 1200 km not 900km and ferry range is 3482km not 1800km
😂😂😂it's 500-600km dude .
500km go 500km return .
Combat range means radius ur jf17 is not going to go beyond 500km of its base it has to return
@@Ulatimberstupid . JF -17 block 3 combat range 1200km . Ferry Range 3882km
@@Ulatimber 600 going+ 600 coming =??
@@Ulatimber you talking about tejesh right
@@Ulatimberyou clearly do not understand what is combat range
I am Chinese, jf17 is a Pakistani fighter jet, China only participated in the research and development, this is like saying that kf21 is not a Korean fighter jet but an American fighter jet
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JF-17of Pakistan is the WINNER. It is relatively recent Fighter Jet, in joint development and production between Pakistan and China, for about 20 years. While F-16 is carried over from R&D carried out in 1960s and 70s, with over 60 years, a very old fighter jet, but JF-17 has caught up very quickly in such short span, and continues to evolve. So JF-17 wins.
Right, you believe that, they caught up quickly it took them 20yrs to develop an aircraft that at its best it might match an aircraft that is 50+ years old and its still highly sought after due to its performance.
What??? JF-17 better than F-16?😅😅😅
This comment might be the funniest s*it I have ever seen. 😂
No you are wrong... F-16 gradually upgraded throughout years... Highest selling rate is the sign how charismatic this fighter is...
Why do you need a 110 million f-16 if you can have a jf-17 with pl-15 and pl-17 missiles at a third of the cost..
JF 17 BLOCK 3 with chines engine and AESA radar and PL 15 bvr missiles is far superior then F16 block 72
JF 17 block 3 has Aesa radar and IRST which F16 does not.
Wrong the F-16 can be upgraded with an Aesa radar that depends on the buyer.
@@tonyradoina9147 F16 with Aesa would cost like $80 Million, you can put little more in it and buy F35 or newer version of F15 eagle
@@oksyar Yeah your Junk Fighter 17 taiyyara is better than F-35 also because it is cheaper😅
@@direwolf7491 yes you stupid moron, you obviously don't know how to run airforce
@@direwolf7491eat your samosa motree. Jealousy freaks.
F16 newest block is still good. but it is too expensive, you are talking about 110 millions fully armed .
Jf17 series two and three are a very capable light weights fighter and multi mission jets. similar to gripen of sweden. if they have a awacs support, they can do alot of abush and can kill all 4th generation jets. F16 is a medium weigh like j10 and rafael
India is always afraid of Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder, India's international fighter jet also thinks 1000 times to fight air war with Pakistan.
True
😂😂😂 rafale is laughing from corner
Which weed you have smoked india affairs of pakistan jf17
Pakistan is one who is afraid to use jf17 against india jet in 26 and 27 fed pakistan used more f16 than jf17
Ok paxtani 👍👍
@@ZaeemJaved12 which weed you have smoked in morning at least research first then reply it was pak f16 who shot down india mig 21 by aim 120 missile
Jf17 only used for bombing bombs like donkey f16 is the back bone of pakistan
Pakistan still doesn't trust on jf17 for the bvr fight
Both inside india and pakistan f16 engage with india fighter jet in which india su30 mki Dodge all aim 120 missile
Proof see your own pakistan defence analyst youtuber or pakistan defence website
JF17 seems to be becoming a far better, more viable option in more aspects than F16 boasts, thus becoming the future war game changer.
Jf17 great new jet
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After RD-93MA and AESA integration, Jeff has become deadly
JF17 is a Light weight Multirole 4++ Gen Aircraft ...
F16 is a Mediums Weight Multirole 4++ Gen Aircraft ...
A true comparison depends on many things, not just the technical specifications. Even a 1 vs 1 duel is not very relavant. One must consider the cost to purchase, operate and maintain, pilot training, serviceability, availability of spare parts and skilled technicians, compatibility with available weaponry, interoperability with other systems and with potential allies, the type of missions in which it's likely to engage, the enemies it's likely to encounter, and a whole lot of other things.
One more advantage for pakistan is that it is becoming expert in this technology and in future will be able to produce even better projects.
Pakistan's JF-17 Block 3 has overtaken the US's f16🤗
How ?
Jf17 is a joint fighter developed by Pakistan 55% and china 45% than how its a Chinese jet🤬
everyone knows the capability of PK
Pak shares parts is 58% and chines 42%
Oh. You forgot to mention the price difference.
JF 17 thunder block 3 is a masterpiece. 🇵🇰❤️🇹🇷
no comparison between a world most successful medium size F-16 vs a modest light weight fighter.
JF17 is a decent and promising fighter drawing its inspiration from a bigger better F-16 and that's pretty much it.
Is that version one of JF 17
Nice video sir thanks love from Halifax England uk 🇬🇧 💕🇵🇰
Who da hell is comparing F-16 mighty warplane with chinese warplanes?????? F-16 is a technological wizardry !!
are you high or dellusional Yankee?
A Great addition to the avionic industry, upcoming beast
JF-17 is better than F-22 Raptor also because it is much cheaper.😅😅
Literally every Pakistani logic in the comment section.😅
Jf 17 thunder black 3 price
You made a wrong comparison... it should be F-16 and J-10
Compare jf 17 block 3 with F16 missle range is better than F16
Pakistani jf 17 block 3 New was amazing work ❤🇵🇰
They are both true Fighter Jets
Not to forget cost factor. One F16 cost is equal to Three JF17
China does not operate JF-17, i expect it to be a capable aircraft especially the block 3, with the latest in Chinese technology ie weapons, operating system, computer components etc
If it becomes capable then there won't be any need for block 4. China wants to keep earning from Pakistan.
If it was indeed capable, Pakistan would not have had to start buying the costlier j10 from China. Pakistan Air Force understands the reality more than these yt juveniles. Nigeria and Myanmar air forces also understand it better as they have had to ground their jf17s due to maintenance issues
@@direwolf7491 poor dumb🤣 I thought u know the cost of JF17 & F16.
MORE BEFITTING COMPARISON WOULD BE BETWEEN J 10 & F16.
Agreed
No comparison…apples and oranges
More like comparing apples with shit ....
JF-17最大亮点可挂载PL-15E（145KM）
JF17 was built to be the Chinese Mirage 5 (which Pakistan has it) or the Chinese Mirage 2000 (which India has it) & for export ,
Not to mimic the F-16
the J-10 project is the one built to be the Chinese F-16
So the main vital thing is the engine!
Better U would have given
Cost Comparison.......!
They're not on the same league. F 16s and F 15s of usa are the best ever done aircrafts all over the world.
It’s a Pakistani Chinese joint venture hence called JF17 (joint fighter 17)
It's made in China bro ....
@@calabuzkal8080according to godi media.
if thats the case then made in china and not being used by China? explain? @@calabuzkal8080
@@sajjadali1468 no bro !! Just tell me what paxtan has contributed for this jets , beside painting it green .....
@@calabuzkal8080 Nearly 60%
Personally, it bothers me when someone is giving so many arguments that have nothing to do with the technical specifications of the aircraft, such as "demand", "popularity", etc. What is really interesting is knowing the technical specifications and the capabilities of each one of these fighter planes, obviously your opinion is biased in favor of the United States fighter planes.
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JF17 is the pride of Pakistan and Pakistan Air Force
Your comparison on the F-16 figures is a combination of truth and falsehood. Firstly just like the Wikipiedia slander of al the JF17 Thunder blocks (1,2and3) having the same service ceiling and top speed is a total falsehood. The empty weight of the block 1 and 2 Thunder are written correctly as 7965 while t-e Block 3 variant using composites in many areas is 6411 Kg, a wiki slander and also a 19.5% slander in this UA-cam video. As for the engine thrust which was kept in secrecy with many presuming the 10 Kn Chinese WS13E engine fitted as Russia for some reason did not give the improved RD93 MA engine which they did later on with an improved 2090 pounds thrust over the older ,1866 pounds thrust of the plain RD93 engine. A difference of 12% increase in power! So while the ceiling of the older blocks was 55400 feet yet higher than the 50,000 feet service ceiling of the 400 million $ F22 Raptor.. So The JF17 block3 with a 19.4℅ lighter airframe and 12℅ more thrust power the service ceiling of the Block 3 Thunder is actually 66,000 feet! while the F-16 has a ceiling of around 57000-58000 feet, and the 400 $ million Raptors is only 50,000 feet some 5000 feet lower than the block 1and 2 Thunder and some 16000 feet below the block 3 Thunder!
While a layman understands things like power to weight ratio in an aircraft has real different facts that are real crucial factors affecting service ceiling and top speed. These factors are aerodynamic parasite drag that increases by the square root and also the size of the supersonic shock bow waves formed on the wings and fuselage at high Mach numbers. So to explain in an easy to understand manner imagine a pin flying through the air, and a thick marker flying through the air.
I would like to say something quite shocking, that is that the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter with a 16000 pounds thrust engine (Even lesser than the 1866pounds of thrust of the JF17 Thunder Block 1) thrust engine reached high speeds of Mach 2.2 in 1954, in fact the first fighter aircraft to reach and cross the dreaded Mach 2 speed. and set a record height of 103,395 feet in 1959, At the beginning of space. Also please note that the F104 Starfighter had one of the worst power to weight ratio of around 0.54 compared to the F22's best of 1.1 but the F22 has only a service ceiling of 50,000 feet! Why? Like I said before power to weight ratio is not the crucial factor that is power to drag ratio and also the size and magnitude of the supersonic shock bow waves. The F-35 has the most powerful single engine thrust engine of 43000 pounds with a ceiling close to 60,000 feet.. Like I said imagine a pin flying through the air and a fat marker at high speeds. The F104 was widely called a missile flying through the air with wings as an afterthought. I'll give more insight about the brilliant F104 after the end of this article. The F104's wings were only 1 inch thick where the ailerons were attached so the supersonic shock waves were of much lesser magnitude than an F16. An F16 carries some 7000 pounds of fuel mostly in the wings making them much thicker and hence very high magnitude supersonic shock waves also the wingspan of a F104 was 21 feet + while the F16 is 31 feet with also a thicker frontal area fuselage again meaning much reduced supersonic shock waves. When an aircraft is flying at 9 times faster than the stall speed the aircraft produces some 81 times more drag (9x9=81) and that also with the much larger supersonic shock waves. That is why the F,104 flew at 103,385 feet! Well higher than an F-16 and much higher than the most powerful F35 with a 43000 pounds thrust engine. Yet the F104 had only a 16000 pounds thrust engine and one of the worst thrust to weight ratios of 0.54.
While this video is really a comparison between a JF17 Thunder and an F-16 and not an F104 which I mentioned because of how drag affects performance. The wing area of a JF17 Thunder is only 263 square feet while that of the F-16 is 300 square feet and slightly thicker wings to carry more fuel for the bigger engine. So at 9 times the stall speed the F,16 is using all that power of 81 times over a much bigger wing drag area and supersonic shock waves while the 263 square feet area (300 sq. feet F16)of the thunder and slimmer wings with smaller supersonic shock waves makes the aircraft climb to a much higher service ceiling of 66,000 fee vs. 56"000 to 58,000 of the F16.The top speed of the Thunder is Mach1.8 to Mach 2, very close to the F16. Here I would also like to say that in the 2019 Paris Air Show a French made Rafael climbed as high as that could and tried to impress. The Pakistani UA-cam commentator was using the wrong terminology of figures but yet the lighter powered Jf17 Block 2 with the lesser 1866 pounds thrust engines reached almost double the height of the Rafael having the anchors eyes popping out! The aircraft was piloted brilliantly by the PAF's Wing Commander Zeeshan By Providence. The service ceiling in most articles of a Rafael is 50,000 feet and in Wikipedia mentioned as 52,000 feet.
So in terms of ceiling and top speed the JF17 is much higher in the ceiling and just about as fast in top speed.
Now lets talk about BVR (beyond visual range) missiles. The PinYin missiles of the JF17 Thunder have a 300 km range with the brilliant Chinese engineers working to increase that to around 400 km. In contrast the best USA BVR AAMRAM missile have a 150 km range and the French meteor missiles also have a 150 km BVR range.
As far as the radar goes only the 2023 F16's have an AESA radar while conventional radars were used in the 2022 F16 had no AESA radar so when they used the conventional radar that would give the position game away letting everyone know where the F16 was.
As far as a better instantaneous rate of turn of the French Rafael primarily due to the larger wing area well that is negated by a Thunder with a helmet mounted gun sight borrowed from the top Chinese J20 stealth fighter. All the Thunder pilot has to do is to turn his/her head 30-35 degrees left or right get the aircraft in the helmet gun sight locked on and fire the missile. Due to space limitations I'm ending this article but like I mentioned at the end I'd like to say a few things for which the F104 was wrongly blamed for. This was because the F104 was a high speed aircraft and was not meant to be was used for deck level flying ordered by the USAF to the German Luftwaffe. True the small wing area meant a high wing loading meaning stability but the high speed aircraft made dangerous overcorrections near the ground thus killing 115 Luftwaffe pilots mainly due to bird strikes at those deck level altitudes. The F104 was given the wrong name of "WIDDOW MAKER" for compelling the aircraft to do slow deck level flights that wasn't certainly designed for. The aces of aces Erich Von Hartman with 352 aerial victories compared with 42 of the top US ace Richard Bong and was only 22 years old when WW2 ended. He was retired from his post as a major in the Luftwaffe by the USAF as he was vehemently opposed to these dangerous low level suicide like flights of the F104..
Another thing about the F104 is that was famous that the plane would bank but hardly turn. That is because the lift vector is at 90 degrees to the wings and with such short small wings, the wings gave out a very small turn vector. That really didn't matter because the plane was designed as a high speed fighter interceptor to speed along to the enemy target and fire the AIM-9 sidewinder missiles and fly away as the plane was not meant to be a dog fighter, but rather a high speed missile firing interceptor. Just like the F35 stealth fighter, the naval version being stressed to only 7.5 G's not giving that any real dogfighting capabilities. The USAF pilots also do not like the touch functions on the 200.15$ F-35 preferring the F-16 viper’s toggle switches to the F-35 touch screen which works only 80% of the time.
Ha Ha Ha. This JF 17 Blunder's figures are all fudged. This fighter will never participate in any war exercises because it will expose all its uselessness. Even in the Dubai air show you can see this fighter can't even turn or climb vertically with no weapons or empty weight comparing to the Tejas & they are comparing it with F 16, Rafales & Gripens. This fighter will not have a combat radius of more than 600 Kms with fully loaded weapons. I doubt it will even dare to climb near or above 50000 feet with weapons loaded.
Neither the engine nor the Chinese Radars have the power to support 100+ Km tracking. These radars will only be able to track enemy missiles to max 70/80 kms in BVR with those engine power, price & quality, even if your establishment give claims of 150/200 or 300 Km range missiles it's of no use because the radar doesn't support that range.
Any sensible country will buy 1 Rafale, Gripen or F 16 even if that same money can buy 2 or 3 JF17's. Reason they know buying 1 will kill 8-10 JF 17's with that investment because in reality the JF 17 will be a sitting duck in BVR with all these fighters & JF17 will not be able to see any fighter beyond 70-80 km. And given this jet has 3rd Gen metal body & RD93 smokey engine it is an absolute dud in BVR. That's the reason countries are paying double & triple the amount & buying these Rafales, Gripens & F 16's & not JF 17's. Even in future it will be same, no country will buy JF 17's considering its uselessness.
The same hype was created on Al Khalid tanks (Chinese MBT-2000 or Type 90-IIM tank) in the early 2000's. They were mocking India & MBT Arjuns with claims of out of the world tank & listing it in World Top 10's by Pakistanis. Today you won't see it in any war exercise or international defence forum nor the Pak establishment speaking on Al Khalid MK2, upgrades or exports. Why? because it is a failed & scrapped project. People may not know the Al Khalid's were also not inducted in the Chinese Army due to it's uselessness.
As per HIT, each Al-Khalid MBT costs $30 million i.e., close to three times the cost of an average T-90 tank, which not only makes them super expensive but also technically inferior, unreliable & useless as it is plagued with several issues with tendencies to break down on the battleground if put to intense use. For Years Pakistanis kept working on this so-called “PRIDE OF THE NATION” Al-Khalid's to fix all its issues, but issues remained & financially it was getting out of hand for the incompetent Pakistani engineers.
So the production was stopped at 310 units in 2014 itself & secretly the program was buried without much hyper Halla Bulla. Talks of Pakistan working on the development of Al-Khalid-2 & 3 has done rounds for 2 decades, but there has been no-show, as Pakistani establishment are helpless & incapable to maintain existing ones forget upgrade or development. Recently Pakistan quietly procured VT4 tanks from China again.
So the JF 17 will also cost 5-10 times more than Rafales, Gripens, F 16's to maintain eventually making it a unbearable & useless jet to fly or even have in the inventory.
JF 17's was not inducted by Chinese Airforce like the Al Khalid's because it is a toothless & useless aircraft. In coming 10 years, the JF 17 will no more be there for production or export as it will die the same death of Al Khalid. I doubt if countries will opt for these junks even as trainers though that would be an area Pakistan can pitch for rather than as a fighter. Fake patriotism will not sell machines outside. It is only for internal buying & consumption. The world won't buy it.
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How can it take off in. the event of a multitude of Brahmos missiles wrecking havoc at all deployment zones of J F 17s in a simultaneously synchronisation of barrages of fire.on based Pakistani Air bases are not deep enough. To escape retribution from air Sea coastal ones will get a reception from the Navy to deny the use of just two dockyard s to cut fuel supply from external sources .No Arab power will allow their Tankers to feel the fantoms of depth near thes harbours .it I a reality even China will feel the heat of supply ing fuel to Pakistanis Let Pakistan day dream day in and day out that their forces have the Jasba to overcome India . They bhave not learnt saga of the 197war They need to ponder if it is viable for them to repeat the same mistake again. When the economy of Pak is in ruins and will sink into the soil sooner than expected People of Pakistan will endure the worst after a war because of the hare brains bin the Military Establishments wrong decisions.
Wrong information :: JF -17 block 3 combat range 1200km . Ferry Range 3882km... also JF-17 Block 3 EW system better than f16 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
It is not fair to compare JF17 which could be 10 times cheaper than F 16.
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And yet Pakistan Air force still considers F 16 as its main combat fighter jet
Incomplete video without price compare
jf-17 is light fighter as compare to f-16 which is medium. jf-17 is modern take of f-20 tiger shark. f-16 is comparable to j-10,
Pakistan is the only country to possess f-16s jf-17s all variants and j-10c the most advance variant.
wrong Comparison JF17 is LCA and F16 MCA fighter but i still think JF17 is winner
Yeah but the F-16 cost a hell of a lot more though cost more than twice as much maybe three times as much
Jeff 17 is such a jet in this world that can fight even in space. This is the only jet in the world which has been made by this country. He himself does not use this jet. This world's only jet whose pants are made in Pakistan, the entire jet has become made in Pakistan.
Still better than Teju Lal 😂
@@ShakeelAhmad-pm2nz Atleast Tejas is being used by India. China doesn't trust the performance of JF-17😅
@@direwolf7491 used by India despite reservations by Indian Air forces.. JF 17 is being used by Mianmar , Nigeria to9.. Teju lal got no attraction by any country.. using Teju Lal India ki mahboori hai.. its engine is American.. missiles and avionics are Israeli and UAE. Indian paint is ugly.
@@ShakeelAhmad-pm2nz Myanmar, Nigeria, Pakistan all are Chinese debt slaves...😅
But China made JF-17 and will never use it. That itself should tell you how unreliable it is.😅
Your Junk Fighter uses Russian engine, Chinese avionics and Chinese weapons and Pakistani green vomit paint🤮
Also, Tejas doesn't use avionics from UAE. kahan se yeh jahilon ki khabar laate ho.
Israeli avionics are shared technology made and produced in India not Israel. Majority of Tejas weapons are Indian what nonsense are you even saying? Stop following your Paxtoni defense exfarts on YT all of them are lying for views.😅
@@ShakeelAhmad-pm2nzMyanmar 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yes they bought jf17 but all the ground 😅 seriously bhai, thora akal laga ke socho....itna he accha hota toe china use nahi karta, tum logo ko pata hai, Chinese maal chala toe chand tak varna sham tak 😂
Atleast comparison started but yet Teja poop from india not here even in the list...😂😂😂
10th gen aircraft 😂😂
They will go to space 🚀
Don't ignore India's Hal Tejas
In UA-cam you can compare a toy to Rocket. No big deal.😂.
Jf 17 is Pak/China fighter not China alone we have 49% share in it correct your research
If 17 is just great f16 was great in past now this era is belong with Jf 17
😂😂😂 comparing Chinese scrap to f16😂😂
@@Ulatimber jokers still India not been able to make anything like a Jf 17
@@Ulatimber jokers always just jokers
@@zafaraliali-sj2nqYour country can't even make bike engines, bus, truck or even manhole covers😅
You are comparing painted Chinese JF-17 with Indian jets. Lol
Indian Tejas mk1a beats that junk fighter blunder in every parameter. Lol
@@zafaraliali-sj2nqwait what we made hal dhruv, hal rudra, hal lch, hal luh all of this have highest altotude capabilities..u couldn't build helicopter and saying we build jet really assembling chinese jet which even they dont operate 😂. It is now having aesa radar we had very back then.. we have our own aesa radar for tejas ,super sukhoi.. our own quadruplex fly by wire systems tested on f16 in usa , do u have ur own fly by wire systems.. we have astra missiles we have propulsion like meteor missile on astra mk3 tested.from ground so far and mk1&2.are there .which mussiles pakis have it will soon have brahmos NG on it.
Jf 17❤
Wrong comparison it should be j10 Vs f16
Hahhahah you deliberately skipped price which is way less than f 16. Tech difference is slight where as price difference is humangus
With a price tag difference of 300%………the F-16 has to be 300% better than the JF-17……otherwise the F-16 is an ineffective failed fighter jet.
it doesn't work like that. Even if J17 is 3000% cheaper but get shot by all the aircrafts its fielded against. Then what's the use of it?
@@pravinmeher2036….it works like that. Is your budget unlimited or what? It’s a proper ratio and mix of performance and price. Why does the US need 280 F-22s?…..only one is more than enough to face the 6,900 cheap, inferior Chinese fighter jets. Very incorrect mentality.
Pakistani JF17 THANDER
What about cost 😆
I think yu don't know about jf17 next generation 🚀🚀🚀
the JF17 is more Pakistani jet than Chinese
This fighter is so good that not a single jf-17 is operated by China 😂
China has better multi role jet than jf17 thats why they don't use jf17, but that doesn't mean its trash like pajeetian tejas.
jf17 far better than f16
India will always do this hate and hate but the reality is you can’t even sell your jets can you..
Go and learn how much weapons India export to other nation !! You think only aircrafts revolves around in terms of exporting military hardware ?? 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
@@calabuzkal8080terrorists 😂😂
@@sajjadali1468 terrorist calling me terrorist ?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Irony
Yup and Pakistan exported jf17 to Nigeria as well as Myanmar, both of which have grounded it due to maintenance issues. What a shame
@@vm8136 you rundians still rely on old news. Well done to your godi media.
Totally wrong comparison mean thing is rader and weapons which jf 17 batter and speed also faster then f16
Ofcourse f-16 is far better than jf17.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Pakistan have both jf-17 and f-16.
Jf17 power by russian rd93m Not the rd 33. Otherwise f16 is a legendary aircraft.
Why not comparing jf15 block 3 😂😂😂😂😂 better then f16 which cost 100 time more 😮
Pakistani air force now us block 3 Jf 17 more beater,
Bro you have limited knowledge of jf 17 thunder......
JF 17 THUNDER COMBATE RANGE 3450 KM HAI You are making wrong comparisons, you are only there to please India
poverty researched figures about JF 17 are not accurate
it's like "original DVD movie disc v.s. Pirated DVD movie disc"
And both show the same movie
Your knowledge is incomplete about the jf17
Chinese Aircraft is good 👍
Is there any point in comparing a junk bin with a fighter jet?
You must be Buniya ! Who else ?
@@rehanamian904 buniya makes money, bhikaris beg🤣🤣🤣
Are you an expert of fighter air act industry ? No you are not. So why do you call it JUNK only and only because it's Pakistani. This simply your hatred. Nothing else !
Jealous mofo 🇮🇳
@@sajjadali1468 Jealous of what?Terrorist production?
The designers of these aircraft were most likely inspired by the appearance and excellent maneuverability of the MiG-21, Saab JAS 35 Draken and Mirage F1 aircraft.
Zero resemblance.
@@andrewlim7751 If you look close up you will notice the similarities in details
Jas-39 and mirage are delta wings. Experts says it's a fusion of mig-21 and f-16...
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Jf 17 pakistan
So Basically JF 17 is good for Smaller or medium size countries.
Perfect for Pakistan, yes F16s are slightly better, but JF17 can be modernized in the same way in the future, but Jf-17 are equally capable to fight, no doubt about that
ایک غلام ملک کا اقا کے ساتھ برابری ممکن نہیں۔ اس کے لیے الک سے ملک خود مختار ملک کا ہونا ضروری ھت
JF-17 is in single seat configuration not two seat.
JF17 has a 2 seater version called JF17 block II B twin seater
Ha Ha Ha. This JF 17 Blunder's figures are all fudged. This fighter will never participate in any war exercises because it will expose all its uselessness. With such power & wing loading, this plane won't be able to do any vertical climb or make a sharp curve. So the 13k weapon carrying capability is a joke. Even in the Dubai air show you can see this fighter can't even turn or climb vertically with no weapons or empty weight comparing to the Tejas & they are comparing it with F 16, Rafales & Gripens. This fighter will not have a combat radius of more than 600 Kms with fully loaded weapons. I doubt it will even dare to climb near 50000 feet with weapons loaded.
Neither the engine nor the Chinese Radars have the power to support 100+ Km tracking. These radars will only be able to track enemy missiles to max 70/80 kms in BVR with those engine power, price & quality, even if your establishment give claims of 150/200 or 300 Km range missiles it's of no use because the radar doesn't support that range. If these Chinese radars are so powerful they would be selling like hot cakes in the international mkt. Already there is rumors from pak forces & news from Myanmaar the radar is very poor. It mal functions & hangs & is useless.
Any sensible country will buy 1 Rafale, Gripen or F 16 even if that same money can buy 2 or 3 JF17's. Reason they know buying 1 will kill 8-10 JF 17's with that investment because in reality the JF 17 will be a sitting duck in BVR with all these fighters & JF17 will not be able to see any fighter beyond 70-80 km. And given this jet has 3rd Gen metal body & RD93 smokey engine it is an absolute dud in BVR. That's the reason countries are paying double & triple the amount & buying these Rafales, Gripens & F 16's & not JF 17's. Even in future it will be same, no country will buy JF 17's considering its uselessness as what the reality & what these social media & key board warriors believe is world apart
The same hype was created on Al Khalid tanks (Chinese MBT-2000 or Type 90-IIM tank) in the early 2000's. They were mocking India & MBT Arjuns with claims of out of the world tank & listing it in World Top 10's by Pakistanis. Today you won't see it in any war exercise or international defence forum nor the Pak establishment speaking on Al Khalid MK2, upgrades or exports. Why? because it is a failed & scrapped project. People may not know the Al Khalid's were also not inducted in the Chinese Army due to it's uselessness.
As per HIT, each Al-Khalid MBT costs $30 million i.e., close to three times the cost of an average T-90 tank, which not only makes them super expensive but also technically inferior, unreliable & useless as it is plagued with several issues with tendencies to break down on the battleground if put to intense use. For Years Pakistanis kept working on this so-called “PRIDE OF THE NATION” Al-Khalid's to fix all its issues, but issues remained & financially it was getting out of hand for the incompetent Pakistani engineers.
So the production was stopped at 310 units in 2014 itself & secretly the program was buried without much hyper Halla Bulla. Talks of Pakistan working on the development of Al-Khalid-2 & 3 has done rounds for 2 decades, but there has been no-show, as Pakistani establishment are helpless & incapable to maintain existing ones forget upgrade or development. Recently Pakistan quietly procured VT4 tanks from China again.
So the JF 17 will also cost 5-10 times more than Rafales, Gripens, F 16's to maintain eventually making it a unbearable & useless jet to fly or even have in the inventory.
JF 17's was not inducted by Chinese Airforce like the Al Khalid's because it is a toothless & useless aircraft. In coming 10 years, the JF 17 will no more be there for production or export as it will die the same death of Al Khalid. I doubt if countries will opt for these junks even as trainers though that would be an area Pakistan can pitch for rather than as a fighter. Fake patriotism will not sell machines outside. It is only for internal buying & consumption. The world won't buy it.
The Pakistanis have been listing JF 17 in the Top 10 best fighters of the world where there was no J10 ever & if this fighter is so great why they buy a inferior J10 which doesn't even list in the top 10. What a joke. In coming years when Pak forces stop speaking about J17 & buy more J10's these foolish warriors will start listing J10's in Top 10 & comparing it with same Rafales, Gripens & F16's even F35's. Wait & watch.
Bro u forget it's rd 99 new engine not rd33
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The American F-16 has a nuclear bite that the JF-17 can never compare to.
jf-17 literally carries Raad nuclear cruise missile. since Pakistan and china are both nuclear power nations
JF 17 can carry Pakistan made raad nuclear cruise missile as Pakistan is a nuclear power country,, do some research man.
are you high? Pakistan is a nuclear country and jf carries nuclear cruise missles.
If you’re talking nuke…..I’d fire the nuke from a misfile not a jet fighter……dumb Americans
J17是巴基斯坦的。不是中国的😂
@JetlineMarvel your reseach is very poor
F-16 dethroned😂😂😂😂