Counterfeit CHIBSON Guitars... How can I get rid of them?
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2023
- At one time, these guitars were fun, but now they're just taking up space and I'm sick of them. I want to get rid of my Chibson knock-off guitars, but how can I do it legally? Do I have to destroy them? The guys from @blueslawyer have the answers!
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Rubric: -5 points for Danzig references. -5 points for not reading the description. -5 points for not watching far enough into the video to answer your own question. -5 points for misquoting me in your comment. 20 points possible. Everyone starts with an A!
Come and get it: www.ebay.com/itm/115942740215
Wouldn't someone be able just replace the neck or headstock and try to pass it off as real Fender or Gibson?
Man, why are you not wearing PC glasses when doing such things? It's very dangerous! Your eyes are almost priceless (true for everybody's)!
Once I've got my skull trauma and got the surgery (some kind of titanium net implant inside) then I've started to value my eyes much more! After the surgery I was learning to control my left eye from the beginning. It wasn't easy for about a week maybe. Then also it did became more sensetive to wind and etc. I've started to wear PC glasses in street very often. Now it's almost my best thing that I take on any trip :) It protects from rain+wind, snow+wind and from dust (obviously).
Do you still have any left?
If so could you send me one as a birthday gift my birthday is June 14th please and thanks 🙏🏻👍🏻
max I work in the shipbuilding-repair industry, PLEASE WEAR SAFETY GLASSES!!, I have personally seen new grinding wheels just shatter and explode while grinding soft materials such as you're doing, I know of at least 2 coworkers who have lost an eye due to not using their safety glasses. Stay safe.
Ever get one to run up your shirt?
@@zeusapollo8688... Oh s#*t!!
He's fine, he's got his safety Squints on
Safety glasses for string changes too
Get a load of safety sally over here. Hes a professional youtuber bro relax
They are missing a good bet, by not replacing GI with CH & simply selling them as official Chibsons.
I would buy one if it actually said Chibson. There's a video of a guy on here that had his sister make a Chibson decal after he resprayed the headstock you can see the decal over it that he put on it. This was a great modification and was really cool to see!
@@solarismoon3046 too bad you cant request the chibson logo on special order…
My Fender ripoff says Squier on it. 😂
😂
I'm more shocked Guitar Max wants to get rid of guitars! 🤯
All for views 🎸😎
All you need is a little piece of sandpaper and you can easily remove the logos in a few minutes without destroying the headstock and tuners.
that's not dramatic enough for a YT video
Max destroyed some guitars a while back and that video has a massive amount of hits, over 300K. The only reason Max made this video was to get hits. As you can see this video is not doing as well as his previous guitar butcher video.@@eric_in_florida
Alot of the companies in China are letting people put their own name or brand on the headstock instead of the counterfeit Gibson Logo. To me that's the best solution for everyone. I own a chibson and it's great.
Exactly. If it plays well who cares?
I wouldn't say they're great; they're probably not as good as an Epiphone. I've seen poorly cut nuts and terrible tuning machines. Sure, you can fix those issues (including pickups) but the reason most people buy them is BECAUSE they say "Gibson" on the headstock. I wouldn't want some dumb name on there.
However, I HAVE had success with (some of) these things. I've recorded songs with them (without upgrades) and nobody bats an eyelid.
I own a few Chinese knockoff guitars that I’ve put work into and turned into great guitars. As a left handed guitar player the knockoffs are sometimes the only way of getting the kind of guitar you want at a reasonable price. Things have improved for lefties in recent years, but there are still a lot of manufacturers out there who treat us like dirt. Frankly until that changes they deserve to be counterfeited. Looking at YOU Jackson Guitars.
I'll play the devil's advocate here. If the low priced but above average quality instruments were available back in the day I truly believe that more people would have stuck with guitar or at least stuck with practising that what we had back then.
Reason to buy one: logos are important to A LOT of people. I’ve bought a few and put about $600 into them and made some pretty amazing guitars. I’d rather play a fake Gibson with cool parts on it because it’s nicer to look at than a beginner Harley Benton.
Is it petty? Sure. But as long as you don’t misrepresent it, there’s nothing wrong with Chibsters.
Max, you’re NOT a professional angle grinder user btw. 😅
Gibson is such a pos company they will sue you if they ever see you using a Chibson on sm or even live. Be careful with that thing.
@@relicboxingactually they can't because all chibies are slightly different in one way or another IE body shape contours accessories etc. so they are not an exact clone actually a name can't even be copyrighted however the font can be...
Also did you know Eddie Van Halen put a Gibson logo on one of his Frankenstrats?
@@jaminjimlp
Names are trademarked.
@@relicboxing What is sm?
I praise every good sounding cheap guitar that clearly shows us what Gibson guitar should cost in a ideal and less greedy world.
Exactly
If they weren’t made in America with all the taxes and ridiculous regulations, not to mention the workers who expect human rights.
@@LEON4PRESBig rich corporations can AFFORD taxes and regulations, and workers DESERVE human rights.
@@markcheetah4960
Yes they can, AFTER they raise their prices.
You probably never even played a Gibson. You get what you pay for.
Back in 2014 I purchased a chipson and I have to say it was a beautiful piece of work and played and sounded great.! I eventually sold it and wish I hadn't now.! It was a beautiful guitar... No I didn't pass it off as the real deal and stressed it on my sellers post that it wasn't a real Gibson.! Idc how many pieces of wood it was made of lol it was a great sounding guitar...
yes!
Good ethical advice. Counterfeits on the secondary market hurts all guitar buyers. For guitar players knowingly selling a fake as the real thing: what goes around comes around.
Or, maybe we can stop trading with China since they ignore all global trademark laws.
@@Dr.Garlic. Now we're in a philosophical discussion. One may feel they've done their part by being upfront about it and now it's the buyer's responsibility, but I would feel responsible knowing the guitar is out there with the potential to be misrepresented, knowingly or unwittingly (as by a surviving family member, for e.g.) in the future.
@@Dr.Garlic. That still doesn't justify piracy which is the original intent of anyone putting a fake Fender or other makers' name on it.
@@Dr.Garlic. Tell that to all the guitar snobs that believe that they have to pay top dollar for what they believe to be quality because of the name rather than what quality these instruments truly have! You can talk sense to stubborn and stupid people that don't want to realize that their expensive dreams are just that - EXPENSIVE!!
Wrong. That is a huge misconception. Do you honestly think that Gibson and Fender, who routinely exploit cheap foreign labor, are affected by counterfeit guitar sales?
Easy-peasy, and very simple: sand and repaint the headstock, and, if needed, alter the headstock profile.
I came across two Fender counterfeits, and I repainted the headstocks to match the body color - one black and one red. Before that I slightly altered the headstock profile to be less 'Fenderish'. Jobs done.
Some of the counterfeits aren't bad guitars in their own right, but should not be confused with OEM.
Any remaining items like truss rod covers etc., should be replaced. Not a difficult thing to do.
Wear some eye protection, you don't want the last thing that you see to be these guitars!!
The fake guitar's sometimes aren't so bad they can be okay, you got about a fifty fifty shot of receiving something that's okay quality. I would say give them out to people who are less fortunate
I’m 3 for 3. I do have one that was gifted to me that’s 10 years old and it’s pretty rough.
For me, I'm sold on Xaviere. Got one of their Stratocaster clones, and it feels almost identical to my Mexican Strat. I was so impressed I have a Les Paul clone on the way,
Take off fake name and donate to a music school. Probably many young students would be in need.
You aren't allowed to sell them.
You can sell guitar cases though, and just "give" them the unwanted guitar "in" the 4-500 dollar case :).(Fully explaining the "issue" of course !)
I bought beautiful flame top "Chibson" with no hardware or pickups for $80 at a flea market about 2 years ago.
It must have been a mistake because it is one of the best playing, looking and good sounding (Dimarzio paf & sd pickups) guitars I own after adding the missing hardware and electronics .
I will never sell it or get rid of it... and I am not lacking in quantity or quality of instruments to compare it to.
What's that saying ? - "Even a broken clock is correct twice a day".
Sometimes even a counterfeit can be done so well it's pretty damn awesome.
the sound is in the pickups. the 'sound' has nothing to do with the guitar itself, really.
Funny loophole... I don't think that worked for selling $50 weed tshirts before marijuana was legalized.
SAFETY GLASSES
I have a couple Chibsons and Chenders and I love them, but I will never sell or give them away for the very reason that someone else may sell it as a real model.
In my city, the police are so busy handling out of control crime, they’ll laugh in your face if you think they’ll chased down someone selling a copycat guitar…
Hell to the knaw. To the knaw, knaw, knaw. Ive often wondered how many chibsons out there had one or just two piece bodies compared to the real thing. Ive stated before a very close friend of mine works at a big USA manufacturing company. He said that the painted body guitars many times are built with the scrap left over lumber. He said he personally has seen 4, 5, 6,and even 7 piece bodies. They are not going to just throw it away. And they cant make a transparent finish guitar out of many different pieces. So yeah. I only buy transparent finish on guitars if i cant count the pieces i will not buy it. But i know there are good bones out there.😮
There's something tragic about watching that. I know several people who would have the decency to remove the logos without destroying the guitars. If they were unplayable or unmodifiable just saw em up but to render useless what someone would be ecstatic to obtain seems overkill. But I guess they are Max's so he can do what he likes. Just not what I would have done. Especially when he said the Chender was a pretty decent guitar.
YT dramatics, gotta get all the clicks.
Simply sandpaper off the logos, print out your own decal, place it on, and sell them.
Literally had this conversation today with someone about Chibsons.
Someone might buy it thinking it is the real deal from someone not saying it is a fake.
Funny you posting this.
Chibsons show up all the time on Facebook marketplace and Craigslist.
800 grit sanding paper and some water would have been enough ... 😂
It's not as easy as you might think! I sanded the name off of a fake Fender Strat with sandpaper & it took a long time and a lot of elbow work. Donated it to the Salvation Army. I think a Gibson would be REALLY hard to sand off without power tools. The logo seems to be underneath a good few coats of paint before you even get to it.
Hey friends, to address a few common comments, why don't I donate these to a school or "give them to someone who needs them", there are 2 reasons: 1. Finding someone via the internet who truly needs a guitar and not just says they do is almost impossible, and 2. Some of these guitars have lead contamination, which I'll be doing a video about later on.
Lead contamination?
Do you know how much lead you put into your air and studio while grinding those guitars?
@@bryonkidder6199yes I do. Zero. The lead is not in the paint.
@@GuitarMAXMusichuh? If it’s not in the paint, then it’s in the wood? Parts? Guess you need a follow up vid to explain more lol.
Frets?
Good old fashioned unleaded 88 guitars for us
Max - "Always use proper PSE safety gear & practice"
*** Proceeds to freehand an angle grider & guitar in the air without eye protection, ear protection, gloves, or even a paper mask. Max is a Man's Man 👍🤣
Who taught him to use power tools? Good grief....
And then start slinging sparks when he hits the tuning keys.
GO MAX!!!!
I’ve sold a few. The first one did end up on Craigslist in the guise of being a real Gibson. Since then I’ve sold two and I etch the word “clone” in the back of the headstock, in the control cavity and pickup cavities. It’s at least some measure against a counterfeiter.
No don't destroy them! Send them all too me!
I would stamp the back of the head stock with fake or counterfeit just like they do with 2nds or the same way they stamp the serial number. You could always remove the branding and replace it with something like a decal that says CHIBSON. Probably not the best thing to do inside with no protection/mask. You have no clue what you can be breathing or spreading around you studio/home. What a lot of people do not take into consideration is the counterfeit less expensive guitars. I have seen fake Epis, Squires, LTD, Schecters. They are usually sold thru shady dealers over seas. I used to have a link to an Australian shop that was selling knockoffs of a lot of brands.
Send it to me. I won't sell it ever. 😂
Should’ve used sand paper and just you give the guitars away 😞
Who should I give them away to?
@@GuitarMAXMusic yours viewers love guitars 🎸
Nothing wrong with owning a Chibson as long as it's for personal use only and you don't ever plan to sell it. There are Chibsons with impeccable looks for a fraction of the price of even an Epiphone, let alone Gibson. Get a set of good pickups like Seymour Duncan JB/Jazz for $200 and you still have a nice guitar for half of the price of an Epiphone. Besides I heard that even Slash played a Chibson in some of GNR early videos.
It wasnt a chinese fake although it was a Les Paul replica (I guess still a fake but a custom build not a mass production fake) - it was a Les Paul replica made by reknown guitar builder Kris Derrig. This guitar was eventually how he connected with Gibson. They endorsed his use of this custom guitar and eventually made a reissue of this Kris Derrig guitar under the Gibson banner.
@@joecoach7268 great info, thanks.
You can play or sell any guitar you'd like. Gibson need to up their quality and LOWER their prices. They have caused the demand for these knockoffs. I agree, when selling, state its a copy.
Give them to a music school to give to students that show promise and could use one.
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Good golly Max don't hold it up in the air while you're grinding on it. Safety first!!
@GuitarMAXMusic You are an honorable and responsible guitar player! I wince when I saw you wielding that angle grinder without any eye protection. A little better than that episode when you were one-handed reciprocating sawing guitar bodies to prove that they were solid wood - I cringed during the whole episode.
I have one Chibson which I bought with the explicite demand that it wouldn't have a Gibson log...... so it came with a Gibson logo. The guitar is fine and when I sell it for like 500 EUR nobody would be offended as long as I'm honest about it.
The only reason for myself that I would want to buy one, is I heard from a lot of UA-camrs that these guitars are very well made from some of the factories anyways. But my stipulation and buying one would be that I would not want the Gibson name on it. My old stage name last name was blaze so I would want that on the headstock so that there would be no confusion. But I've always wanted to try one to see how nice they sound and feel, unfortunately a few years back I got injured at my job and am now on disability and cannot afford to buy one.
YES..DO IT! It might keep another from snapping! lol Where are the goggles SIR!?!
It will be a great learning experience for me
I just built a bc rich with a different bridge and neck
A 220 sanding block with would have accomplished the same effect and would have given the opportunity for a less fortunate kid to have a decent guitar to play.
I spent 30 minutes leaving a response and youtube removed it lol They didn't like the truth ! Called me a spammer a knockoff. Took them 10 seconds to erase truth . Mr Max you are a Original ! None of your content is a copy . Thank You !
Now you have to destroy the Chinese grinder
I almost thought he was gonna come out with his night costume and start hacking at the headstocks 🤣
There are some beginner's out here who can't afford electric guitars at this particular time. Actually you have marked them in a way that makes them collectable, like saying to your buddy, hey man this is the one Max put the grind on. Then it goes on the wall for a conversation piece.
Safety first!! Friends don't let friends play H.B. 😜 \m/
Now I'd like a 'Chibson' logo for my SG. Max, this was indeed a 'Spooky' October show. 🎃🎸
Ebay has them.
thanks. ;0)@@harrybryan9633
I’ll take one and redrew the head stock and modify it
I’m learning how to build guitars
Smart to lawyer up. Wear safety glasses to sand off false logos. A man of sterling character & a fine player.
too funny, i liked the remark about leaving on the sidewalk at Norms.
The ironic upshot of the advice provided by the Blues Lawyers -- "Less fiddling, more playing" -- is that if it were to be followed it would put 90 percent of UA-cam guitar channels out of business, since pointless fetishizing over gear is their whole reason for existing.
Everything about this video is just perfect!
"Let's grind this sucker off" will be his new tag line
The reason I bought one is to work on luthier skills without worrying about damaging something more expensive, and another reason is they can make good wall art if they don't play well.
I dont think i would have used a grinder. actually it doesn't bother me to have a fake logo. i really dont see the need for it though and if you are gonna sell it sure take the logo off cover it up or do like he said paint "is not " . I think as long as a player is happy with their axe so be it. As long as they keep the axe like it is it dose not really matter to me. The only thing not ethical is selling the guitar with the fake logo as an original otherwise enjoy the madness!!!!
I was interested in picking a few if these up as decorations for the studio. It would take some $ to upgrade all the components so playing one would seem a bit of a reach since I already own some wonderful instruments.
I'd be more than happy to provide an address if you need somewhere to ship them, allow me to ease your burden Max.😅 ( seriously though, happy to provide that addy anytime )
A Very entertaining video. The grinder was a bit overkill but looked fun. So what is your take on partscasters? I could not afford one of those AVRI Fender Jaguars so I built mine over almost a year of buying genuine fender parts a few each month. It is for my own use and wont ever be sold. Does not being assembled at Fender by an actual employee make it fake? All guitar parts are mass produced and stored in bins where each piece is picked to complete a guitar. Does that make every single one produced a partscaster also? Always awesome content on your channel.
actually, there are lots of struggling musicians who would knowingly buy these due to the abhorrent markup of greedy gibson company which is not what they used to be…
That doesn’t justify the counterfeits, especially when there are many affordable alternatives that are not counterfeits
As in they don’t have “Gibson” or “Fender”, etc. on them, but are nameless or a brand name of their own
I own a Les Paul copy, but it never had “Gibson” on the headstock, so it’s a copy, not a counterfeit
And the video echoes this about buying something that is not a fake, you will get a better deal
Then they can buy a damn Epiphone and not a blatant rip off of another brand. WTF😂
@@chrisdigital all gibson companies product r overpriced and a struggling musician can use the chibs for starting out.. so your comment is dumb
@@chrisdigital I can barely name a guitar company who doesn't sell a blatant ripoff of other company's guitars. You can buy a strat ripoff from almost every major brand.
@@dw7704 some people use the chibs for appearance. I personally don’t care if folks buy fakes because of how absolutely greedy gibson is..not that the Chinese give a rats ass either.. just my take. other brands at same and lower pricing have much better quality control out the door…
Don't pussy foot around Max, just smash em Paul Stanley style 😂
Dont know about the current line of Epiphone LP's but my Chibson LP which I upgraded plays and sounds waaaay better than any Epiphone I've ever tried. I use it as back up on stage. In terms of value lot less stress about it possibly getting stolen compared to a real Gibson. Never thought about selling it because its so good but should I in the future of course I'd be 100% honest about it being a knock off and perhaps even consider removing the logo too. Although I'd never do it this way with a grinder......thats making a lot of unnessasary damage.
oh, i forgot to ask - is that a 1/32 p-38 in the background?
😂😆😎👍🏼
Krikeys Max -- I would have removed the tuners and just sanded the headstock down, then refinished it. Hey, that's just me.
I'll buy one of your Chibsons.
That's my point too. I'd mod it and put MY name on the headstock. (without butchering it)
When in doubt ... a Viking 'burial' ...
That's exactly why I ordered mine with "Chibson" "Loco Pollo" logos on the headstock....
I’m all for getting Chibsons off the marketplace. As far as cheap brands go, obviously, I’m for affordability so everyone can have an opportunity to play, but at this point, I only buy higher end($500 and up) not necessarily because they play better, but it’s nice if something happens in the future and you need money fast, you can always pawn or sell your USA Gibson of Fender. Trying to borrow money on cheap equipment is aggravating as hell.
i always thought the dusty end of the fretboard was near the body. looks like it yours is closer to the headstock
scraping off the logos when you're selling it is a good idea! or maybe replacing it with a funny logo like the ones GFS sells XD
I've read some pretty hard core guitar snobbery on here. Sad. I am 100% against forgery but I am 100% for anyone to get what they can afford to enable themselves to play music. I have a HB Fusion that 15 year old me would have killed for. I got that black widow looking Glarry that Max had on here and modded the crap out of it and gave it to my grandson who has taken that thing to unbelievable skills. Just don't like the snobbery. I'll get over it but I'm disappointed in all aspects of this video.
Ill gladly take one
Destroy logo and serial number. Give them to a local school music program.
Had a Chibson at one time. I was second owner. Fully disclosed when I purchased it. I took metal dye punch letters and stamped “FAKE” on the back as well as put lines thru the bogus serial number.
When I sold my chibsons I bought a letter punch set and stamped "replica" on the back of the headstock. Just so there wouldn't be any confusion.
I've got 3 chibsons and as long as I don't try to resell them has a legit Gibson I'm good and so is everyone else
Oh yeah, I forgot. Some weeks ago, I got impatient and bought two BEAUTIFUL Prefenders from China. But I cancelled the order before delivery. Boy, those were a few gray hours for me.
Just carve an indicator in the back of it somewhere and you’re good. Make sure it’s deep enough that you can’t sand it out with the finish.
Good one Max ,
"Be sure to wear safety equipment." Proceeds to not wear safety equipment. 🤣
I find the easiest thing to do is sand off the headstock logo refinish it and put my own logo on it. There are so many people using guitars that aren't big names or playing custom builds these days.
Hey max can I buy any of your chibson guitar les paul for nostalgia I just like them for decoration
I truly feel there is nothing wrong with buying or a selling a chibson i say this because the population im apart of cant afford a $3k guitar or even a $300 guitar and a very good reason for buying one! Some of us do like nice things but we may never be able to achieve the real thing besides its obvious when a fake is a fake between poly finish inconsistencies the bridge mount and various other things gibson does a great job covering their ass just ask the guys that raided the factory they even got some wood back from that and made an entire freedom series of guitars sorry gotta stick up for the little guys as i am one as well
Would like to send a pic of the BC Rich but don’t know how
I have a Fender knockoff. It’s indistinguishable from an American made Fender since I replaced the electronics, preloaded Tex mex pick guard and fender tuners. Looks the exactly the same, sounds exactly the same and I’d argue the frets are better quality. I’m never selling it but if I did I’d just say it’s a partscaster and list the specs.
I'll take the Fender knock off! I'll even pay for shipping if not too bad! :)
Count your fingers after you‘re done!
i had to break it to a local pawn shop that the $3500 Les Paul Standard they had was a fake. Fortunately they were great and it was on consignment and took it off the floor immediately after having a guitar shop in town verify my claim. I'm glad the shop did their due dilligance, I just feel bad if the seller thought he had the real thing.
Have them refinished.
I admire his bravery, using an angle grinder sans eye protection.
That’s some fine luthier work in this video! 😂
Love this video Max and totally agree with every point. UA-camrs that review these guitars debate quality and value for the price but for me, if they're so good, why arent the chinese manufacturers putting their own name on them - because if they did, NO ONE would buy them. They may be good builds, but people buy them because of the brand logos on the headstock. I also agree that there is no good reason to buy one - it just perpetuates the issue. My issue isnt so much owning one but the chance that you could be part of someone getting scammed once the guitar leaves your possession. Good for you for making the video and "disposing" the logos on the guitars you own.
Are they any good
I sanded the logo off of a counterfeit Fender Strat & donated it to the Salvation Army. I'm sure it'd be more difficult to remove a Chibson logo. (EDIT) It looked pretty easy in the video with power tools. I just used sandpaper.
One word. Very funny and educational.
I've taken logos off guitar headstocks before. The correct thing to do is to get a sanding block and sand it off by hand. Repaint the headstock and add a non Gibson decal of your choosing in place of the Gibson logo. I bought some seagull logos for the guitar headstocks.👍🤟✌
I'd imagine a lot of people wanted a Gibson to play and hang on their wall, but can't afford one. I agree with defacing or replacing the logo when getting rid or selling it, however, if the owner of that Chibson dies and said chibson gets sold, well, that's just unfortunate.
Ill take the 2 in the video lol wall art
@@Guitar_Maxx. what what
@@Guitar_Maxx. thats awwwwsome
My Personal Back-end is Always Covered…. 🤘🤣
Hey maxx get ready for the spark cab