I mean, that's the problem with high damage characters, there's usually needs to be some offset for their big numbers. Release Bison aside, Akuma has low HP, Aki has poison requirements, and Marisa has less options to get touches. The moment Marisa gets better options, her combos become too accessible. Even now, every touch from her can result in easy crazy damage, so getting the touch needs top remain difficult.
@@hteety Absolutely. High damage can be qualified as a gimmick in of itself, but couple that with armor, armor breaks, and charge moves, you have an abundance of out of the ordinary traits to balance around. Not to mention practically full screen moves and a command parry mix up. Theres only two ways to approach gimmicks in character design, you either weaken them to be unimpactful, or you take away from foundational areas. Generally speaking, what often becomes the strongest character on a roster ends up getting away with strong gimmicks and well rounded foundations. Such as vanilla Deejay or Ken. Where as characters that end up on the bottom are almost always ones with gimmicks that arent overwhelmingly good but their base is to weak to even make them work consistently like release Aki. Its important people understand this and have a grasp on whether their characters core design is around stronger gimmicks or stronger baseline gameplay so they don't get frustrated when E Honda isn't given above average walk speed and a jamie length sweep. Sorry for the essay, it actually made me a little happy to see someone point this out. With the histrionics of balance patches its nice when people understand this very core part of character balance.
Marissa buffs are always funny, like “here’s 5 more combo routes and no fixes to her core issues!”
I mean, that's the problem with high damage characters, there's usually needs to be some offset for their big numbers. Release Bison aside, Akuma has low HP, Aki has poison requirements, and Marisa has less options to get touches. The moment Marisa gets better options, her combos become too accessible. Even now, every touch from her can result in easy crazy damage, so getting the touch needs top remain difficult.
@@hteety this exactly imagine if she was a consistent and getting hits as ken she would be busted
@@hteety but what about Gief??? He is still up there untouchable.
@@hteety Absolutely. High damage can be qualified as a gimmick in of itself, but couple that with armor, armor breaks, and charge moves, you have an abundance of out of the ordinary traits to balance around. Not to mention practically full screen moves and a command parry mix up.
Theres only two ways to approach gimmicks in character design, you either weaken them to be unimpactful, or you take away from foundational areas.
Generally speaking, what often becomes the strongest character on a roster ends up getting away with strong gimmicks and well rounded foundations. Such as vanilla Deejay or Ken. Where as characters that end up on the bottom are almost always ones with gimmicks that arent overwhelmingly good but their base is to weak to even make them work consistently like release Aki.
Its important people understand this and have a grasp on whether their characters core design is around stronger gimmicks or stronger baseline gameplay so they don't get frustrated when E Honda isn't given above average walk speed and a jamie length sweep.
Sorry for the essay, it actually made me a little happy to see someone point this out. With the histrionics of balance patches its nice when people understand this very core part of character balance.
Every patch i've been hearing "bbut the core issues!!!" im starting to think that people wont be happy until every character becomes a shoto
4:20 as a marisa main i asked myself that everyday
"who jumps there?" answer, every Jamie player lol.
They all share one braincell. Stupidest players ever
5:50 nah bc this combo had my jaw actually drop
Muscle mommy got more muscles this patch 😉
Punk just got legend with random select. You can't let him win neph
I really wish the song names were back, now I have to keep searching till I find them
HFSB, waiting for the DI to throw punish was insane
I hate fighting good Marisa players I block and I'm already dead😔
This is why u parry
waiting for nephew new tier list now hehe
Nephew where was the command grabs bro we didnt see one.
The Goddess of battle
VIC-TOR-REEEEEEEE!
9:09 how does this Honda have almost 1700 MR? 😭
1600-1700mr is littered with trash like that
She has the same problems with more damage
Somehow I still think BigBird and others won't pick her back up.
She went from bottom one to bottom one
Well rashid is pretty much untouched in this patch so prolly no.
Marissa is buffed but not that crazy imo.
@@JacobHancock-d1u bottom 3 to bottom 3
BigBird drop Marisa for Rashid
VS
BigNephew drop Juri for Marisa
Hate the buff. I get to 🐢 🐢 turtles more, and the roster is not even through 😒😒🍕🍕(*/ω＼*)