Thanks so much for watching! I do like the look of death EZX, but I’m hoping to grab SD3 next year and if so, I’ll get death and darkness. No sense in getting the ezx ones in the meantime. I need to check out perfect, I hear a lot of good things about those. Im not sure I’ve heard of kinglake! I just googled that one, and I see it’s made by Lance Prenc! He’s awesome! I definitely need to check that one out! -Toby
@@AiiZStudio different genres. From heavy metal to metalcore, djent, progressive. All that stuff. I tried it for pop punk and jazz too. Not bad results
Ugritone is a very niche case. Theyre raw as fugg, and even the mic choices reflect the grimey underground vibe That being said dieswitch was one of their first foreays, and was always in the $5 teir of product. One of their larger librarys, like northern artillery or modern doom, or the new faster louder. But the interface is a mess, but i got a soft spot for the underdogs
I'm gonna recommend Invasion to pretty much anyone, I have used it for synth pop, rock, metal, deathcore, shoegaze, and it pretty much never fails in any genre I throw it on, the samples are unreal. If you know how to choose the correct samples and mix the mic levels, you really dont need to mix them much especially if you use Turbo
I'd say the same about the P4 kit, which is my kit of choice for almost everything. With different settings and into different external plugins I've used it a lot for both the djenty stuff it's made for but also a lot of 80s rock!
Fantastic video! I'm looking for a new drum library one and your video helped tons! There's a new Tier List video to come? I just got Invasion today, but I have my eye on Kurt Ballou and Gojira as well Thank you for the valuable content mate
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Yes, I will be updating this, I’ve picked up a tonne more libraries since I made this, I’ve just been too swamped with working with bands and living the dad life to catch up on UA-cam. -Toby
ML is amazing, and it's crazy how good the free version is. But time and time again I find myself going back to Ugritone's libraries. Some are just garbage, but some sound so good, so raw and dirty, like ML would never be able to. KVLT 2 is probably the best one I've tried so far. So, a combination of ML and Ugritone pretty much covers all my needs.
Yeah I mean, people might think I’m biased because I’m now an ML artist, but everything Mikko puts out is absolute fire! I have heard good things about KVLT2 but my experience with ugritone plugins has been unfavourable. Between the samples themselves sounding subpar and the GUI of the plugins themselves being difficult to use, it’s really put me off using them. Maybe I’ll give them another go at some point. I’m glad to hear they’re working for you though! 👊🏻👊🏻 -Toby
@@AiiZStudio Cool! Subscribed :) My 5 penny to the topic: for now I stick with two libs, which are OKW Metal and Krimh Drums. Krimh Drums is the most natural sounding library ever created, yet it's still punchy and fits any metal genre. While OKW Metal is a superb choice for THAT 2000s-2010-s modern-metal (aka metalcore) sound. Perfect for covering some 2000s era metalcore classics. But now I have this strange desire to obtain Hertz Drums, but they are pricy as fuck with all of the expansions. Anyway I still have doubts because I feel like they're lacking round-robins and not too many samples which makes them sound kinda robotic. Especially the snare, on lower velocities you can hear the same hit just in low volume.
I love OKW when I want that sneap/Richardson sound for trivium/Killswitch/bullet style songs! But Krimh is absolutely bae. I’m working on a few projects right now and we shot out libraries and Krimh won! Hertz is an interesting setup, and I look forward to going in detail on it asap! -Toby
You mean oneshots? Yeah Drumforge sells those, but they don’t sound particularly great on their own, because they lack dynamics. They’re designed to augment a library or live drum performance. -Toby
Have you tried the Exstinction Level Evend drums by Spectre Digital? Got the plugin on sale a while ago, I think it sounds pretty decent and was wondering how they are compared to more well known plugins.
I haven’t had great experience with spectre customer service which puts me off trying anything else from them if I’m totally honest. I would like to try that library out though if I ever got the chance! -Toby
@@AiiZStudio That sucks to hear. I've still not tried it yet, but I know Jordon who tracked it pretty well and any samples he's ever sent me have been insane so it's probably worth getting past that to give it a try
When it comes to the EZDrummer expansions... DFH: Sounds like a joke, huge props to the guy who made it sound good on Catch 33. Would only use it for comedy metal or for intentionally sounding bad in an ironic way. You can make it sound slighty decent when you dial down the onboard compression but it still can't compare to the modern stuff. Minging for sure for the built in presets, can be taken to a Floppy if you dial down the comp. Metalheads: Love it, especially for the novelty of having Thomas Haake's actual kit. Great for this late 2000s djent and sumerian sound! Might be a bit too dynamic to the point it can sound weak sometimes. It slaps. Metal Machine: Still my favorite after all these years, Andy Sneap made a masterpiece! Perfect for that 2000s "real" metal sound, especially modern Thrash. Drum bae for sure! Metal!: Great shells, shit cymbals. Aight, or It slaps if combined with different cymbals. Made Of Metal: Absolutely incredible for the 90's stuff like some of Collin Richardson's most prolific productions, wouldn't say I like it for modern metal. It Slaps. Drums Of Destruction: Weird... I think it's really good for lo fi metal stuff, like myspace core or slam with that Chris Adler snare. The toms sound especially weird and the mixing doesn't sound very polished... Aight. Progressive: Sounds like they tried to challenge GGD, epic fail. Might sound decent for a very specific type of prog (Tool, Karnivool) but definitely not encompassing prog as a whole or even coming close. Floppy. Dark Matter: Pretty cool, especially for alternative metal. Not a sound I'd typically even produce but it's really good for what it does. It Slaps Death Metal: Kinda like Metal Machine 2.0 with added brutality. Sounds incredible especially for modern death metal and deathcore. It Slaps Modern Metal: Another attempt to try taking some of the marketshare from GGD, and once again failed but much better than the Progressive kit. I'd honestly consider the short and snappy kit from the expansion a really nice kit for the types of prog the Progressive kit doesn't cover, however for the music Putney usually produces this lacks the power, Putney heavily disappointed in that one. Aight. Duality (will include both of them): I don't like the idea of having two totally radical expansions instead of one balanced sounding one. Both kits are too extreme to their side (1 being dark, 2 being bright) to the point they're not really usable, and they're both mixed really weirdly, will never end up on a recording of mine. Floppy Post Metal: Really unique flavor for a very unique and specific type of metal. Just like the Dark Matter that's not stuff I'd reach for but it's really good at doing what it's supposed to. Aight
Some interesting thoughts! I haven’t used most of those, so I can’t comment. I personally think DFH is pretty amazing for a 24 year old library that is still useable! -Toby
I haven’t been able to try it out for myself yet, but it looks and sounds sick. If it’s up to the standard of gojira (which I think it probably is!) and it has those snares that pang, I’d say most certainly! -Toby
You're missing Steven Slate Drums which was almost a standard for rock and metalcore/post-hardcore around the early 2010s. Joey Sturgis made his entire career out of these samples.
Indeed. I don’t have that though, and don’t have any intention of buying it, so unless someone decides to gift me a copy, I can’t really comment on it. :P -Toby
Try ML Drums bro, and also the underrated, old and mighty BFD3, the most RAW and deep sampled virtual drums in whole world...but very difficult to achieve great sound also@@AiiZStudio
A bit off topic. I have a Drumforge Bergstrand and it is too heavy on the CPU. I basically can't use it. I have no problem with any Kontakt drum library otherwise, not even with Superior Drummer 3. Can you, please, compare if Drumforge Matt Greiner has similar CPU usage? Thank you.
I’ve never had any issues with Bergrstand, but Matt Greiner’s CPU usage is noticeably more than Bergstrand. But that’s because theirs more samples and the velocity layers are much deeper. If you can run SD3 but not Bergstrand, I would check your settings/hardware on your machine, because that shouldn’t be happening! For example, if your samples are all on a disk drive instead of an SSD, that will make it run much slower. -Toby
@@AiiZStudio Thank you for the quick reply. I already dealt with Drumforge support, but no matter what I do, nothing helps. I have all the libraries on my SSDs, so I don't know. But at least I know that I will probably avoid Matt Greiner for now. Thank you once more.
You can’t go wrong with Bogren Krimh! I recently engineered a black metal ep using a combination of that and superior drummer 3. And I’m also engineering/producing a progressive death metal album that has Krimh for drums! -Toby
@@vitorcarvalho5716 GGD Invasion is solid, too! Very versatile! I personally prefer Krimh, but you can’t go wrong with either! Krimh also has a free version which is good to try it out! -Toby
With all due respect, you can't really make a drum library comparison list without 3 of the biggest plugins: Modern and massive Superior drummer 3 Addictive drums You picked all the ones from toontrack which suck btw lol
Haha yeah fair enough. As I said in the video I don’t think it’s fair to comment on libraries I don’t own. I didn’t buy modern and massive as I hear it everywhere in bedroom djent, which isn’t really my jam. SD3 is absolutely massive, and probably the industry standard, but it has that price barrier. However, I do hope to pick that up next year. I’ve not heard anyone using addictive drums, and I’m not familiar with that one at all. Obviously if someone wants to send me licenses for those, I’d love to make some content on them, though! Which EZX libraries don’t suck in your opinion? -Toby
@@AiiZStudio Supeiror drummer is to drum sampling software as the les Paul is to guitars. You can pick up a 2tb hard drive for like £30/40 so that solves that issue. There’s a ton of people who stand by addictive drums as the most versitile drum plugin. I probably agree. It’s seriously good. What makes a drum plugin sound metal is how you process it, a black beauty snare has been used on death metal and classic pop and jazz and rock and pretty much everything. A drum isn’t simply “a djent drum”. It’s the way you process and play it which matters. The death metal EZX is their biggest selling, and probably for a reason. Dark matter ezx, drums of destruction, metal heads and made of metal are generally agreed to be the best metal ones. All the ones you picked minus duality 1, which isn’t necessarily geared towards metal metal, are like a decade old lol. Back in the day, people had never heard anything like these libraries. These days, they’re very old and worn down, but are still better (in terms of velocity layers, quality of instruments, mixing purposes) than most out today. I think in the grand scheme of things you should get SD3 along with death and darkness and the metal foundry, and then maybe come back to this. Apart from that, cool idea, and super underrated video!!
@@ross_jones_musicEZX modern metal definitely isn’t over a decade old. And I did mention that the others are old. I didn’t mention in the video, but I did down here in the comments section that although I would love to grab the death metal ezx, as it’s essentially a lite version of half of death and darkness, which I’m planning to get next year, it seems pointless to basically buy those samples twice. Storage isn’t the issue for me with SD3, I have plenty of storage, it’s the flipping €379 price tag. I just can’t justify that right now! I’m hoping I will be able to when their next sale/Black Friday deal comes along. If so, I’ll grab D&D and area 33 for sure! I will almost definitely revisit this around this time next year. I may even have my own library out by then 👀 Thanks for watching and for your comments! -Toby
@@AiiZStudio no i love it when it comes to acoutsic drum vsts^^ have tried out almost any acoustiv drum vst and seriously no plugin comes near of the sdx releases since 2017... only drums beside the sdx releases since the last 5 years is the ez drummer stock libary...surprisingly great sound and a much lower gb size..these core libary sounds better then every sdx releases bevore 2017 (exl progressive foundry^^)
@@justin1603 have you tried Bogren Krimh? There’s a LOT OF LOVE for that one in the metal recording community! But yeah, Superior is an accurate name for sure, I just wish it had superior pricing :P -Toby
@@AiiZStudio well i know its not cheap and dunno for what you need drums now and in the future...but after i bought and or played ezdrummer 2 plus lets say 20 ezx, perfect drums, adictive drums, bvd3, ggd and others i just stuck with the sdx (favourites death , hansa and fields of rock) its not only their sound and the endless ways to shape the sound ...its also the sound and recording quallity itself...that i never heard anywhere else... but i jzst checked out couple videos from the krimh plugin...heard of it first time after you mentioned it... sound very good out of the box...dunno if it is so crisp and has this deepness like the mentioned sdx have but great tone...thank you
@@justin1603 I’m not sure anything goes quite as deep as superior drummer, but if you want good drums without having to remortgage the house, Krimh is the way! -Toby
Mixwave and Toontrack are the best, have yet to try KRIMH but whatever I've heard has left me with an "eh". GGD suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I have damn near all of their libraries and I can't make them sound decent, always too fake and ringy. The ugritone stuff is great for real man's metal (death,black etc), especially the OSDM library.
🙌 Thank you for that top spot, Toby! Please share that album with Krimh Drums when it comes out.
*albums :P and you know I will! Haha! Thanks for all your hard work and attention to detail in your products!
-Toby
Hang on, I just remembered I edited out the part where I talked about the other albums 😂 shhhhh secret 😂
-Toby
We need an updated version of this!
I’m working on it! I’ve probably got over double the number of libraries I had in this video now 🤯
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio that’s so valuable! Can’t wait
@@Begkan I’m aiming to have it out in time for Black Friday!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio thanks for the info!
Death and Darkness will always be my go to with some Prog Foundry mixed in.
D&D is on my wish list for sure!
-Toby
This
Amazing video! Totally agree with opinions on every drum kit. Surprised not to see Death Metal EZX, Perfect Drums and Kinglake Drums in this list tho.
Thanks so much for watching! I do like the look of death EZX, but I’m hoping to grab SD3 next year and if so, I’ll get death and darkness. No sense in getting the ezx ones in the meantime. I need to check out perfect, I hear a lot of good things about those. Im not sure I’ve heard of kinglake! I just googled that one, and I see it’s made by Lance Prenc! He’s awesome! I definitely need to check that one out!
-Toby
Yeah I'd love to see a review and demo of Perfect Drums and compare it to my own demo mixes.
I started using ML Drums coule months ago, and it's the best library that I ever tried
It’s a great one for sure! What kind of music are you using it on?
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio metal :)
@@ConstantineM haha I guessed as much. But what kind of metal?
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio different genres. From heavy metal to metalcore, djent, progressive. All that stuff.
I tried it for pop punk and jazz too. Not bad results
@@ConstantineM oh nice! And yeah, I can believe it!
-Toby
Thanks for taking the time! Great video! This video answered questions I had and questions I never knew I had! lol! Subscribed with the bell!
Thanks so much!
-Toby
that Thumbnail is genius 🤣good video !
Hahahah! Thanks for watching Arturo! Collab on a song when?
-Toby
I'd recommend GGD Modern and Massive, it does everything for me even the kitchen sink
It is a great library, but it’s even more ubiquitous than invasion. I hear it everywhere haha
-Toby
Ugritone is a very niche case.
Theyre raw as fugg, and even the mic choices reflect the grimey underground vibe
That being said dieswitch was one of their first foreays, and was always in the $5 teir of product.
One of their larger librarys, like northern artillery or modern doom, or the new faster louder.
But the interface is a mess, but i got a soft spot for the underdogs
Oh totally. I really really want them to succeed. The sounds on their demos of the newer libraries are fantastic. But the GUI is hideous.
-Toby
I'm gonna recommend Invasion to pretty much anyone, I have used it for synth pop, rock, metal, deathcore, shoegaze, and it pretty much never fails in any genre I throw it on, the samples are unreal. If you know how to choose the correct samples and mix the mic levels, you really dont need to mix them much especially if you use Turbo
It’s a solid option for sure!
-Toby
I'd say the same about the P4 kit, which is my kit of choice for almost everything.
With different settings and into different external plugins I've used it a lot for both the djenty stuff it's made for but also a lot of 80s rock!
Fantastic video!
I'm looking for a new drum library one and your video helped tons!
There's a new Tier List video to come?
I just got Invasion today, but I have my eye on Kurt Ballou and Gojira as well
Thank you for the valuable content mate
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Yes, I will be updating this, I’ve picked up a tonne more libraries since I made this, I’ve just been too swamped with working with bands and living the dad life to catch up on UA-cam.
-Toby
ML is amazing, and it's crazy how good the free version is. But time and time again I find myself going back to Ugritone's libraries. Some are just garbage, but some sound so good, so raw and dirty, like ML would never be able to. KVLT 2 is probably the best one I've tried so far. So, a combination of ML and Ugritone pretty much covers all my needs.
Yeah I mean, people might think I’m biased because I’m now an ML artist, but everything Mikko puts out is absolute fire!
I have heard good things about KVLT2 but my experience with ugritone plugins has been unfavourable. Between the samples themselves sounding subpar and the GUI of the plugins themselves being difficult to use, it’s really put me off using them. Maybe I’ll give them another go at some point. I’m glad to hear they’re working for you though! 👊🏻👊🏻
-Toby
I'm quite surprised that Perfect Drums are not mentioned. Another new library I tried demo is Hertz drums.
I got hertz after I made this video. Expect a hertz drums video in the not too distant future!
-Toby
Sick video! Amazing list. Subbed
Thanks for watching and for your sub!
-Toby
How the hell does this channel only have 190 subs???
Hahaha thanks for subbing. We only had 100 a month ago. We growing!
-Toby
Very nice review! Would be cool to see a review of Hertz Drums too. And of course Perfect Drums :)
Thanks! And thanks for watching! I just got Hertz Drums, so expect a video about those soon!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Cool! Subscribed :) My 5 penny to the topic: for now I stick with two libs, which are OKW Metal and Krimh Drums. Krimh Drums is the most natural sounding library ever created, yet it's still punchy and fits any metal genre. While OKW Metal is a superb choice for THAT 2000s-2010-s modern-metal (aka metalcore) sound. Perfect for covering some 2000s era metalcore classics. But now I have this strange desire to obtain Hertz Drums, but they are pricy as fuck with all of the expansions. Anyway I still have doubts because I feel like they're lacking round-robins and not too many samples which makes them sound kinda robotic. Especially the snare, on lower velocities you can hear the same hit just in low volume.
I love OKW when I want that sneap/Richardson sound for trivium/Killswitch/bullet style songs! But Krimh is absolutely bae. I’m working on a few projects right now and we shot out libraries and Krimh won!
Hertz is an interesting setup, and I look forward to going in detail on it asap!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Awesome!
Love a good tier list :-)
Thanks for watching! I’m planning to make an update to this one very soon!
-Toby
Does any 'company' provide a .wav library or something without the actual app?
So I can use the sounds & program it with the daw's own programmer?
You mean oneshots? Yeah Drumforge sells those, but they don’t sound particularly great on their own, because they lack dynamics. They’re designed to augment a library or live drum performance.
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Thanks for telling me what they are actually called 😅
Do you know of any Metal drum oneshots that I can buy?
@@AshishPrinz Drumforge have a bunch! Check out the Dave otero, George lever, Daniel Braunstein, and heavy hitters packs!
@@AiiZStudio Thank you again man! I appreciate!
Have a great day! 💙
@@AshishPrinz no worries! You too!
-Toby
Great video Toby !
Thanks for watching!
-Toby
What libraries would you suggest for neo-soul, and some of the lighter indie sub-genres as well? TY
I don’t have any experience with those genres, sorry. We only really work with metal, punk, and hardcore.
-Toby
Have you tried the Exstinction Level Evend drums by Spectre Digital? Got the plugin on sale a while ago, I think it sounds pretty decent and was wondering how they are compared to more well known plugins.
I haven’t tried that one!
-Toby
Great job Tobybromony! \m/ Love ye face :*
Love you too Roooooobiiiiiiiinnnnnnn
-Toby
Toby you crack me up so much 🤣🤣🤣
Hahahahha I’m glad to be of service 😂
-Toby
ELE from Spectre media is great. Sounds real
I haven’t had great experience with spectre customer service which puts me off trying anything else from them if I’m totally honest. I would like to try that library out though if I ever got the chance!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio That sucks to hear. I've still not tried it yet, but I know Jordon who tracked it pretty well and any samples he's ever sent me have been insane so it's probably worth getting past that to give it a try
@@jacksbyrne oh damn! Yeah I should get past the cockblocker debacle and give it a try!!
-Toby
When it comes to the EZDrummer expansions...
DFH: Sounds like a joke, huge props to the guy who made it sound good on Catch 33. Would only use it for comedy metal or for intentionally sounding bad in an ironic way. You can make it sound slighty decent when you dial down the onboard compression but it still can't compare to the modern stuff. Minging for sure for the built in presets, can be taken to a Floppy if you dial down the comp.
Metalheads: Love it, especially for the novelty of having Thomas Haake's actual kit. Great for this late 2000s djent and sumerian sound! Might be a bit too dynamic to the point it can sound weak sometimes. It slaps.
Metal Machine: Still my favorite after all these years, Andy Sneap made a masterpiece! Perfect for that 2000s "real" metal sound, especially modern Thrash. Drum bae for sure!
Metal!: Great shells, shit cymbals. Aight, or It slaps if combined with different cymbals.
Made Of Metal: Absolutely incredible for the 90's stuff like some of Collin Richardson's most prolific productions, wouldn't say I like it for modern metal. It Slaps.
Drums Of Destruction: Weird... I think it's really good for lo fi metal stuff, like myspace core or slam with that Chris Adler snare. The toms sound especially weird and the mixing doesn't sound very polished... Aight.
Progressive: Sounds like they tried to challenge GGD, epic fail. Might sound decent for a very specific type of prog (Tool, Karnivool) but definitely not encompassing prog as a whole or even coming close. Floppy.
Dark Matter: Pretty cool, especially for alternative metal. Not a sound I'd typically even produce but it's really good for what it does. It Slaps
Death Metal: Kinda like Metal Machine 2.0 with added brutality. Sounds incredible especially for modern death metal and deathcore. It Slaps
Modern Metal: Another attempt to try taking some of the marketshare from GGD, and once again failed but much better than the Progressive kit. I'd honestly consider the short and snappy kit from the expansion a really nice kit for the types of prog the Progressive kit doesn't cover, however for the music Putney usually produces this lacks the power, Putney heavily disappointed in that one. Aight.
Duality (will include both of them): I don't like the idea of having two totally radical expansions instead of one balanced sounding one. Both kits are too extreme to their side (1 being dark, 2 being bright) to the point they're not really usable, and they're both mixed really weirdly, will never end up on a recording of mine. Floppy
Post Metal: Really unique flavor for a very unique and specific type of metal. Just like the Dark Matter that's not stuff I'd reach for but it's really good at doing what it's supposed to. Aight
Some interesting thoughts! I haven’t used most of those, so I can’t comment. I personally think DFH is pretty amazing for a 24 year old library that is still useable!
-Toby
do you think is the jay weinberg s mixwave worth it
I haven’t been able to try it out for myself yet, but it looks and sounds sick. If it’s up to the standard of gojira (which I think it probably is!) and it has those snares that pang, I’d say most certainly!
-Toby
You're missing Steven Slate Drums which was almost a standard for rock and metalcore/post-hardcore around the early 2010s. Joey Sturgis made his entire career out of these samples.
Indeed. I don’t have that though, and don’t have any intention of buying it, so unless someone decides to gift me a copy, I can’t really comment on it. :P
-Toby
Excellent, now we need a new one with the other ML Drums, BFD3, Hertz Drums, Extinction Level Event?????
I am planning a follow up. Hoping to include new ML, Hertz, Mixwave, and maybe some superior drummer! Thanks for watching!
-Toby
I just snagged Superior Drummer 3, so I’m definitely due an update on this video now!
-Toby
Try ML Drums bro, and also the underrated, old and mighty BFD3, the most RAW and deep sampled virtual drums in whole world...but very difficult to achieve great sound also@@AiiZStudio
No Hertz Drums? :(
‘Fraid not! I don’t have those!
-Toby
do you know if Matt Greiner drums comes with a folder of wav samples?
I just double checked, there isn’t a folder of WAVs.
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Thanks for checking!!!
XD Ugritone Drums has GM mapping and SD3 mapping.
Have you ever tried this one?
Ugritone is covered in the video!
-Toby
No BFD3 l, no SD3, no AD2, no MeldaMdrummer no subs
As I said, I only included the libraries I have! I am hoping to grab SD3 sometime next year though!
-Toby
Amazing review!! One More subscribe!
Thank you very much!
-Toby
A bit off topic. I have a Drumforge Bergstrand and it is too heavy on the CPU. I basically can't use it. I have no problem with any Kontakt drum library otherwise, not even with Superior Drummer 3. Can you, please, compare if Drumforge Matt Greiner has similar CPU usage? Thank you.
I’ve never had any issues with Bergrstand, but Matt Greiner’s CPU usage is noticeably more than Bergstrand. But that’s because theirs more samples and the velocity layers are much deeper. If you can run SD3 but not Bergstrand, I would check your settings/hardware on your machine, because that shouldn’t be happening! For example, if your samples are all on a disk drive instead of an SSD, that will make it run much slower.
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Thank you for the quick reply. I already dealt with Drumforge support, but no matter what I do, nothing helps. I have all the libraries on my SSDs, so I don't know. But at least I know that I will probably avoid Matt Greiner for now. Thank you once more.
@@ropa4499 yeah that is weird. Shame because MG is a really great library.
-Toby
the OKW Metal is my drum bae :D
You can’t go wrong with that one!
-Toby
Can you post the thumbnail? Awesome video!
Thanks for watching! Post the thumbnail? Or do you mean the tier?
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio the tier list sry! 😂
@@MrRocket96 haha, sure. I actually intended to do that and totally spaced on it 😂😂 I’ll put a Dropbox link in the description asap.
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio 👍
@@MrRocket96 www.dropbox.com/s/7fclqxinsd3i5cd/AiiZ%20Drum%20Library%20Tier%20List%202022.png?dl=0
I'm waiting for you to do a comparison with hertz drums 🫵😳
Someone send me copies of the hertz drums and I’ll get straight on it! 😂
-Toby
Guys im a newbie when it comes to drum libraries, i want something that sounds like Lorna Shore, death-black metal stuff, anyone have tips?
You can’t go wrong with Bogren Krimh! I recently engineered a black metal ep using a combination of that and superior drummer 3. And I’m also engineering/producing a progressive death metal album that has Krimh for drums!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Thanks bro! Ill check them up, i was really tempted to buy the Invasion from GGD too.
@@vitorcarvalho5716 GGD Invasion is solid, too! Very versatile! I personally prefer Krimh, but you can’t go wrong with either! Krimh also has a free version which is good to try it out!
-Toby
Mix wave has a Lorna shore library now
@RandomationsYt that’s a good shout actually!
-Toby
what do you think of perfect drums or hertz drums?
I haven’t tried either of those. I can only say that I have friends who love perfect drums. Ruben has and loves hertz drums though!
-Toby
With all due respect, you can't really make a drum library comparison list without 3 of the biggest plugins:
Modern and massive
Superior drummer 3
Addictive drums
You picked all the ones from toontrack which suck btw lol
Haha yeah fair enough. As I said in the video I don’t think it’s fair to comment on libraries I don’t own. I didn’t buy modern and massive as I hear it everywhere in bedroom djent, which isn’t really my jam. SD3 is absolutely massive, and probably the industry standard, but it has that price barrier. However, I do hope to pick that up next year. I’ve not heard anyone using addictive drums, and I’m not familiar with that one at all. Obviously if someone wants to send me licenses for those, I’d love to make some content on them, though!
Which EZX libraries don’t suck in your opinion?
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio Supeiror drummer is to drum sampling software as the les Paul is to guitars. You can pick up a 2tb hard drive for like £30/40 so that solves that issue.
There’s a ton of people who stand by addictive drums as the most versitile drum plugin. I probably agree. It’s seriously good.
What makes a drum plugin sound metal is how you process it, a black beauty snare has been used on death metal and classic pop and jazz and rock and pretty much everything. A drum isn’t simply “a djent drum”. It’s the way you process and play it which matters.
The death metal EZX is their biggest selling, and probably for a reason.
Dark matter ezx, drums of destruction, metal heads and made of metal are generally agreed to be the best metal ones.
All the ones you picked minus duality 1, which isn’t necessarily geared towards metal metal, are like a decade old lol. Back in the day, people had never heard anything like these libraries. These days, they’re very old and worn down, but are still better (in terms of velocity layers, quality of instruments, mixing purposes) than most out today.
I think in the grand scheme of things you should get SD3 along with death and darkness and the metal foundry, and then maybe come back to this.
Apart from that, cool idea, and super underrated video!!
@@ross_jones_musicEZX modern metal definitely isn’t over a decade old. And I did mention that the others are old. I didn’t mention in the video, but I did down here in the comments section that although I would love to grab the death metal ezx, as it’s essentially a lite version of half of death and darkness, which I’m planning to get next year, it seems pointless to basically buy those samples twice. Storage isn’t the issue for me with SD3, I have plenty of storage, it’s the flipping €379 price tag. I just can’t justify that right now! I’m hoping I will be able to when their next sale/Black Friday deal comes along. If so, I’ll grab D&D and area 33 for sure!
I will almost definitely revisit this around this time next year. I may even have my own library out by then 👀
Thanks for watching and for your comments!
-Toby
Addictive Drums is a go-to lib way back in 2000s. Now they sound outdated and lame.
@@maxmolodtsov what exactly is lame? A drum is a drum. The way those drums sound is down to the way you process it, not how they sound out the box.
Bro made ugritone shut down
Bahahhahaha oh man, I hope not 😱 I am totally genuinely looking at getting the “everything bundle” before they close for good though!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio ikr, it looks so sexy, I want total studio drums or modern doom at least
@@plazima yeah I mean, at the end of the day, more is more, right?
@@AiiZStudio yep
My personal top 3:
1, death and darkness sdx
2. rooms of hansa sdx
3. fields of rock sdx
You like toontrack then? :P
I’m planning to grab SD3 later this year, and I’ll have to check out those ones you mentioned!
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio no i love it when it comes to acoutsic drum vsts^^
have tried out almost any acoustiv drum vst
and seriously no plugin comes near of the sdx releases since 2017...
only drums beside the sdx releases since the last 5 years is the ez drummer stock libary...surprisingly great sound and a much lower gb size..these core libary sounds better then every sdx releases bevore 2017 (exl progressive foundry^^)
@@justin1603 have you tried Bogren Krimh? There’s a LOT OF LOVE for that one in the metal recording community!
But yeah, Superior is an accurate name for sure, I just wish it had superior pricing :P
-Toby
@@AiiZStudio well i know its not cheap and dunno for what you need drums now and in the future...but after i bought and or played ezdrummer 2 plus lets say 20 ezx, perfect drums, adictive drums, bvd3, ggd and others i just stuck with the sdx (favourites death , hansa and fields of rock)
its not only their sound and the endless ways to shape the sound ...its also the sound and recording quallity itself...that i never heard anywhere else...
but i jzst checked out couple videos from the krimh plugin...heard of it first time after you mentioned it...
sound very good out of the box...dunno if it is so crisp and has this deepness like the mentioned sdx have but great tone...thank you
@@justin1603 I’m not sure anything goes quite as deep as superior drummer, but if you want good drums without having to remortgage the house, Krimh is the way!
-Toby
Why not SD3? :(
Hahahahaha. Cheeky.
-Toby
@@AiiZStudioIt was a genuine question though xD
@@Kalsten because I’m too cheap I guess 😂 I do really want to pick it up though! Maybe next Black Friday!!
-Toby
Mixwave and Toontrack are the best, have yet to try KRIMH but whatever I've heard has left me with an "eh". GGD suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I have damn near all of their libraries and I can't make them sound decent, always too fake and ringy. The ugritone stuff is great for real man's metal (death,black etc), especially the OSDM library.
I have heard good things about the black metal stuff with ugritone, but the dieswitch library I have and its gui is just absolutely frustrating.
-Toby
Dude ugritone is the best. Old school raw shit
@@coreyroberts47 the dieswitch one is really bad. Riot is kinda cool, but the UI is still the worst.
-Toby
@@coreyroberts47 hell yeah
I donno what “groove” you’re using for these demos, but it kinda just makes them ALL sound like dookie shoes. Blugh…😮
Hahaha I used a Toontrack groove. I’m not sure if “dookie shoes” is a good thing or bad thing, but I do enjoy a good “blegh” 🤘🏻
-Toby
Where's foking Perfect Drums from Naughty Seal???
I’m not familiar with one by that name!
-Toby